Re: hospital employee flu shot declination

[Guest guest]

Amazing that they would give you such a hard time... it's like a

mandate to attend school. They offer the shots at the agency where I

work (A county MRDD program). After declining the shots for 10 years

(Thimerasol was a non-issue at the time) I finally decided that I

would get one. I continued for the next 6 years, during which time I

developed asthma that kept getting worse. It was my dh who made me

sit down and watch camping videos of me up to the summer before that

first shot. Guess what? No asthma. He continued to show family

videos within the following few months (Christmes, etc.) and in

every single one of them, there I was...coughing away!!! Needless

to say, I wasn't surprised when my dd was able to pinpoint my

grandson's regression to the flu shot that she was guilted into!

Anyway, rambling aside, if you really need a reason and you don't

want to get a religious exemption, you can always tell them that you

have an allergy to eggs. That ought to make em step away from you!

-Trish

>

> I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires paperwork if

an

> employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the form wants

a reason

> for declination. Should I put safety concerns or religious

beliefs?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Pamela

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

>

> Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

>

[Guest guest]

Amazing that they would give you such a hard time... it's like a

mandate to attend school. They offer the shots at the agency where I

work (A county MRDD program). After declining the shots for 10 years

(Thimerasol was a non-issue at the time) I finally decided that I

would get one. I continued for the next 6 years, during which time I

developed asthma that kept getting worse. It was my dh who made me

sit down and watch camping videos of me up to the summer before that

first shot. Guess what? No asthma. He continued to show family

videos within the following few months (Christmes, etc.) and in

every single one of them, there I was...coughing away!!! Needless

to say, I wasn't surprised when my dd was able to pinpoint my

grandson's regression to the flu shot that she was guilted into!

Anyway, rambling aside, if you really need a reason and you don't

want to get a religious exemption, you can always tell them that you

have an allergy to eggs. That ought to make em step away from you!

-Trish

>

> I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires paperwork if

an

> employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the form wants

a reason

> for declination. Should I put safety concerns or religious

beliefs?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Pamela

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

>

> Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

>

[Guest guest]

say allergic to eggs-- the less info they know the better, less

badgering.

In EOHarm , " Pamela Leigh " <pamelaleigh@...> wrote:

>

> I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires paperwork if an

> employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the form wants a

reason

> for declination. Should I put safety concerns or religious beliefs?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Pamela

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

>

> Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

>

[Guest guest]

I declined the flu shot at my workplace. For the reason, I put that I

did not want to have mercury and aluminum injected into my body.

Simple answer.....

S. Rankin

[Guest guest]

Technically, they only need to " annually evaluate...reasons for

nonparticipation. " See EOP IC.4.15. I work in the Quality Mgt dept

of a hospital.

Although they are supposed to be offered to staff, because I don't

work directly w/patients, the IC nurse offers me vax, but has never

asked me to do the declination paperwork.

But, if they did, I would either:

1. throw away the form or

2. tell the truth - I don't want to be injected w/heavy metals or

other toxins not proven to be safe for humans

The are also supposed to " educate " you. Well, you just can't talk to

some people. Ever smile, " thank you, " and walk away?

Carolyn

>

> I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires paperwork if an

> employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the form wants a

reason

> for declination. Should I put safety concerns or religious beliefs?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Pamela

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

>

> Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

>

[Guest guest]

That is exactly what I wrote when they pressured me into getting the

flu shot. I then wrote a very detailed letter to the CEO of the

hospital about Thimerosal dangers etc... I have yet to hear from him. I

bet he never even heard of Thimerosal. Most of the ER physicians I work

with never did either!

Tina

>

> I declined the flu shot at my workplace. For the reason, I put that

I

> did not want to have mercury and aluminum injected into my body.

> Simple answer.....

>

> S. Rankin

>

[Guest guest]

That is exactly what I wrote when they pressured me into getting the

flu shot. I then wrote a very detailed letter to the CEO of the

hospital about Thimerosal dangers etc... I have yet to hear from him. I

bet he never even heard of Thimerosal. Most of the ER physicians I work

with never did either!

Tina

>

> I declined the flu shot at my workplace. For the reason, I put that

I

> did not want to have mercury and aluminum injected into my body.

> Simple answer.....

>

> S. Rankin

>

[Guest guest]

I had an allergic reaction the one time I got one. My entire arm from

shoulder to hand was on fire with itching, they made me stay longer to

make sure I didn't go anaphylactic. It itched for 3 days. I didn't

know at the time, but I was pregnant. now I just tell everyone I had

an allergic reaction that was feared to be mild anaphylaxis. They

don't wanna take that chance again, though I fear they will tell me it

was too long ago to worry about it happening again.

I'm so blessed, the public university I went to acted like it was such

a big deal for nursing students to be immunized out the wazzoo. The

private college one I'm attending now could care less, they hand 2

forms, one to document when/where you had shots, the other is a waiver

you sign stating you haven't had them & if you get the diseases you

won't hold them responsible. They don't even ask which one you choose,

just to leave the appropriate document in a folder for them.

If anyone asks me which college it is, I WILL lie, no way I'm ratting

them out!!!!

Debi

>

> That is exactly what I wrote when they pressured me into getting the

> flu shot. I then wrote a very detailed letter to the CEO of the

> hospital about Thimerosal dangers etc... I have yet to hear from him. I

> bet he never even heard of Thimerosal. Most of the ER physicians I work

> with never did either!

>

> Tina

[Guest guest]

I just love the threats I get because I refused though. They even

said if I get the flu and call in sick I will not get paid even

though I have like 100 sick days. They said because it was

preventable! I said first, you will speak with my lawyer on that one

and second it is a crap shoot and there are times when the CDC gets

it wrong people who got the wrong strain flu shot can STILL get the

flu! They just want us to comply so they get high marks from the

joint commision is all. Now they have to explain why so many of us

have refused the flu shot---tee hee!!!! I waiting to see if Hillary

gets in do we all loose the right to refuse any vaccine?????? With

her universal health care we must all submit to what they want us to

do in order to get our free health care!

Tina

> >

> > That is exactly what I wrote when they pressured me into getting

the

> > flu shot. I then wrote a very detailed letter to the CEO of the

> > hospital about Thimerosal dangers etc... I have yet to hear from

him. I

> > bet he never even heard of Thimerosal. Most of the ER physicians

I work

> > with never did either!

> >

> > Tina

>

[Guest guest]

My sister has worked full time and now and part time at a local

hospital as an RN for approx 20 years now. She teaches a nursing

program full time at a local community college and is about to

recieve her doctrit degree. She was told for the first time this

year that she wasn't allowed to have the flu shot, because she had a

reaction several years back with her B & S contact lense solution and

came very close to going blind. All of a sudden this year it became

an issue with the hospital. Hmmm!

Regards,

Steve

>

> I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires paperwork if

an

> employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the form wants

a reason

> for declination. Should I put safety concerns or religious

beliefs?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Pamela

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

>

> Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

>

[Guest guest]

My sister, the RN, is so f’ed up- she personally gives her kids the flu shot every year.

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On 1/17/08 9:49 AM, " sspatriots " <sspatriots@...> wrote:

My sister has worked full time and now and part time at a local

hospital as an RN for approx 20 years now. She teaches a nursing

program full time at a local community college and is about to

recieve her doctrit degree. She was told for the first time this

year that she wasn't allowed to have the flu shot, because she had a

reaction several years back with her B & S contact lense solution and

came very close to going blind. All of a sudden this year it became

an issue with the hospital. Hmmm!

Regards,

Steve

>

> I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires paperwork if

an

> employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the form wants

a reason

> for declination. Should I put safety concerns or religious

beliefs?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Pamela

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

>

> Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

>

[Guest guest]

Are you saying with or without the thimerosal?

> >> >

> >> > I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires

paperwork if

> > an

> >> > employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the form

wants

> > a reason

> >> > for declination. Should I put safety concerns or religious

> > beliefs?

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Thanks,

> >> >

> >> > Pamela

> >> >

> >> > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

> > courage unless

> >> > you're scared. "

> >> >

> >> > Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

> >> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

She probably asks for the shots with EXTRA thimerosal.

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On 1/17/08 10:27 AM, " sspatriots " <sspatriots@...> wrote:

Are you saying with or without the thimerosal?

> >> >

> >> > I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires

paperwork if

> > an

> >> > employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the form

wants

> > a reason

> >> > for declination. Should I put safety concerns or religious

> > beliefs?

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Thanks,

> >> >

> >> > Pamela

> >> >

> >> > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

> > courage unless

> >> > you're scared. "

> >> >

> >> > Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

> >> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, I have had an uphill battle trying to convince my sister of the

whole vaccine issue, but I think I'm just now starting to get my

point across....Steve

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> > paperwork if

> >>> > > an

> >>>>> > >> > employee declines the flu shot. For a declination

the form

> > wants

> >>> > > a reason

> >>>>> > >> > for declination. Should I put safety concerns or

religious

> >>> > > beliefs?

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> >>>>> > >> > Pamela

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> >>>>> > >> > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There

can be no

> >>> > > courage unless

> >>>>> > >> > you're scared. "

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> >>>>> > >> > Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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[Guest guest]

How do we know for sure that all flu shots do not contain EXTRA

mercury? Do you really believe that the CDC really is a watchdog on

the amount of mercury in vaccines?

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> >>>>> > >> > I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires

> > paperwork if

> >>> > > an

> >>>>> > >> > employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the

form

> > wants

> >>> > > a reason

> >>>>> > >> > for declination. Should I put safety concerns or

religious

> >>> > > beliefs?

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> >>>>> > >> > Thanks,

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> >>>>> > >> > Pamela

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> >>>>> > >> > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can

be no

> >>> > > courage unless

> >>>>> > >> > you're scared. "

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> >>>>> > >> > Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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[Guest guest]

Ok now that was funny :-)

Tina

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> >>>>> > >> > I work in a hospital. Joint Commission now requires

> > paperwork if

> >>> > > an

> >>>>> > >> > employee declines the flu shot. For a declination the

form

> > wants

> >>> > > a reason

> >>>>> > >> > for declination. Should I put safety concerns or

religious

> >>> > > beliefs?

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> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Thanks,

> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>> > >> > Pamela

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> >>>>> > >> > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can

be no

> >>> > > courage unless

> >>>>> > >> > you're scared. "

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> >>>>> > >> > Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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[Guest guest]

In the absence of truly independant testing by

sertified labs, you don't. I am pretty sure they are

not adding extra mercury to the flu shots (I believe

your unspoken implication is that Pharma would add

extra to the flu shots now being given to kids to keep

the overall exposure level consistant with that of the

mid 90's pediatric schedule to ensure that autism did

not decline fast enough to support the

thimerosal-autism connection).

What I strongly question is that they have removed

thimerosal from the pediatric shots. The language

used in the releases is that they have stopped adding

thimerosal as a preservative. It is still being used

as a fixxing agent in production, and then supposedly

filtered out. I think they probably do not really

filter it out, and the FDA/CDC is more than willing to

simply take what Pharma says at face value.

Re: hospital employee flu shot declination

Posted by: " " rng777@... skiptracer88

Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:42 am (PST)

How do we know for sure that all flu shots do not

contain EXTRA

mercury? Do you really believe that the CDC really is

a watchdog on

the amount of mercury in vaccines?

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