Re: article: Rich Schools Classify More Kids As Autistic ...

[Guest guest]

" ...a lack of quality health care in low-income neighborhoods " ? Could

this mean a lack of adherance to the vaccination schedule or lack of

excess vaccines and perhaps consequently lower rates of autism in

poor neighborhoods?

>

> Rich Schools Classify More Kids as Autistic

> http://www.newsday.com/news/local/education/ny-

> liauti095533475jan11,0,7680495.story

>

>

> This Newsday story says one reason that rich school districts

> classify five times as many kids as autistic is that those schools

> have special programs to teach autistic students, while poor

> districts don't.

>

> The story says medical experts attribute the gap to wealthy parents

> having access to better health care, so they can get a diagnosis

> earlier in their child's life. The diagnosis sets into motion

school

> services for special needs kids:

>

>

> Medical experts blame the problem not so much on schools as on a

> lack of quality health care in low-income neighborhoods. Research

> shows toddlers in poor families who aren't taken on regular visits

> to pediatricians are less likely to have their autism diagnosed

when

> it first appears -- usually, before age 3.

>

> " The kid who might otherwise get diagnosed at 3 might not get

> diagnosed until age 7, " said Gilmore, executive director of

> Hicksville-based Autism United. " It may make the difference between

> being institutionalized in later life, or living more

independently,

> and that has huge implications for taxpayers. "

>

>

> Have you looked at where education dollars are spent to educate

> autistic and other special needs kids in your community? Is it the

> same in every part of town

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[Guest guest]

In New York, at least, poor children whose families participate in

any kind of public assistance program get vaccinated with a

vengeance. Up until recently and maybe even now poor parents who

refuse vaccines, tetanus boosters, etc. stood a good chance of being

reported to CPS. I think in this instance it is just that poor kids

can't afford a private diagnosis and the schools won't classify kids

as having autism if they can get away with it because they would

have to provide additional serces copared to other classifications.

> >

> > Rich Schools Classify More Kids as Autistic

> > http://www.newsday.com/news/local/education/ny-

> > liauti095533475jan11,0,7680495.story

> >

> >

> > This Newsday story says one reason that rich school districts

> > classify five times as many kids as autistic is that those

schools

> > have special programs to teach autistic students, while poor

> > districts don't.

> >

> > The story says medical experts attribute the gap to wealthy

parents

> > having access to better health care, so they can get a diagnosis

> > earlier in their child's life. The diagnosis sets into motion

> school

> > services for special needs kids:

> >

> >

> > Medical experts blame the problem not so much on schools as on a

> > lack of quality health care in low-income neighborhoods.

Research

> > shows toddlers in poor families who aren't taken on regular

visits

> > to pediatricians are less likely to have their autism diagnosed

> when

> > it first appears -- usually, before age 3.

> >

> > " The kid who might otherwise get diagnosed at 3 might not get

> > diagnosed until age 7, " said Gilmore, executive director of

> > Hicksville-based Autism United. " It may make the difference

between

> > being institutionalized in later life, or living more

> independently,

> > and that has huge implications for taxpayers. "

> >

> >

> > Have you looked at where education dollars are spent to educate

> > autistic and other special needs kids in your community? Is it

the

> > same in every part of town

> > The above e-mail is intended for the recipient only and may

contain

> > confidential or privileged information. If you are not the

intended

> > recipient, please notify the sender immediately. Any

unauthorized

> > use or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My take is that poor kids get third string PA's for

their health care needs and the bureaucracy which

oversees the tax-funded CHIP pgrograms places more

emphasis on getting clients hustled out of the office

than they do taking the time to ensure accurate

diagnosies.

This is compounded by the fact that poor neighborhoods

are also likely to get second-rate school personnel

who simply see all kids who are different as either MR

(and thereby hopeless) or ADHD ( and thereby needed

nothing more than medicated).

Finally, poor neighborhoods are packed with parents

who are either far too busy trying to survive to

dedicate the hours and hours needed to research their

child's condition and then fight for appropriate

services, and/or are in the bottom third of the bell

curve and are inherrantly less able to understand what

is going on. (Not meant to be a dig against anyone,

but less face the fact that if you are in the upper

third of the bell curve, chances are very great you do

not stay poor for long, and will move up the social

ladder into a better living environment. This is

probably the single most overlooked factor to poverty

in the developed world.)

Re: article: Rich Schools Classify More Kids As

Autistic ...

Posted by: " anacat_11 " anacat_11@... anacat_11

Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:38 pm (PST)

" ...a lack of quality health care in low-income

neighborhoods " ? Could

this mean a lack of adherance to the vaccination

schedule or lack of

excess vaccines and perhaps consequently lower rates

of autism in

poor neighborhoods?

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[Guest guest]

Often in " rich " schools, the parents are very involved and make no

bones about it that they expect their children to have the " best " and

to get into good universities. This includes picking out the behavior

distractions in the class that may be holding their neurotypicals

behind. Many schools like this run " problem " children off ASAP. (and

sadly get away with it.)

>

> Rich Schools Classify More Kids as Autistic

> http://www.newsday.com/news/local/education/ny-

> liauti095533475jan11,0,7680495.story

>

>

> This Newsday story says one reason that rich school districts

> classify five times as many kids as autistic is that those schools

> have special programs to teach autistic students, while poor

> districts don't.

>

> The story says medical experts attribute the gap to wealthy parents

> having access to better health care, so they can get a diagnosis

> earlier in their child's life. The diagnosis sets into motion school

> services for special needs kids:

>

>

> Medical experts blame the problem not so much on schools as on a

> lack of quality health care in low-income neighborhoods. Research

> shows toddlers in poor families who aren't taken on regular visits

> to pediatricians are less likely to have their autism diagnosed when

> it first appears -- usually, before age 3.

>

> " The kid who might otherwise get diagnosed at 3 might not get

> diagnosed until age 7, " said Gilmore, executive director of

> Hicksville-based Autism United. " It may make the difference between

> being institutionalized in later life, or living more independently,

> and that has huge implications for taxpayers. "

>

>

> Have you looked at where education dollars are spent to educate

> autistic and other special needs kids in your community? Is it the

> same in every part of town

> The above e-mail is intended for the recipient only and may contain

> confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended

> recipient, please notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorized

> use or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful.

>

[Guest guest]

I think they are also on top of finding problems with their kids to

get addressed ASAP.

On the flip side, I think it's difficult to tell some behaviors in

poor schools because let's face it, a lot of poor kids come from bad

homes. A kid who lives in a drug zone & maybe witnessed his

older/younger sibling get shot by drug lords is gonna have behavior

problems. Possibly difficulty making eye contact, not wanting to talk,

maybe aggression. He may be pacified by sitting & spinning a toy

because he's afraid to reach out socially. Gee, all that sounds

familiar. So, if you have a kid in that sort of lifestyle, it would be

very easy to blame it on " circumstances " rather than neurological.

Just today my kindergarter's teacher told me there's a new refugee in

the glass from an African nation, can't recall the name. Not only does

this kid not speak English, she said he was a holy terror today, only

6 kids got good behavior reports 'cause it was so disrupting. I'm

thinking it's just as likely this kid could have autism as be freaked

out in a room with a bunch of English-speaking kids. Of course, his

behavior will ALWAYS be blamed on him being a refugee.

Debi

>

> Often in " rich " schools, the parents are very involved and make no

> bones about it that they expect their children to have the " best " and

> to get into good universities. This includes picking out the behavior

> distractions in the class that may be holding their neurotypicals

> behind. Many schools like this run " problem " children off ASAP. (and

> sadly get away with it.)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately also a vast difference in quality of diet is a factor.

>

> Often in " rich " schools, the parents are very involved and make no

> bones about it that they expect their children to have the " best " and

> to get into good universities. This includes picking out the behavior

> distractions in the class that may be holding their neurotypicals

> behind. Many schools like this run " problem " children off ASAP. (and

> sadly get away with it.)

>

>

>