Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 My doctor said that they are reccomending the booster, but it is not a requirement for school " yet " so she wanted to wait and not do it until then which I wont do it then anyway but at least she is somewhat proactive. nna Bond wrote: No. In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot until she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop Reyes Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. nna No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 My doctor said that they are reccomending the booster, but it is not a requirement for school " yet " so she wanted to wait and not do it until then which I wont do it then anyway but at least she is somewhat proactive. nna Bond wrote: No. In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot until she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop Reyes Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. nna No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 My doctor said that they are reccomending the booster, but it is not a requirement for school " yet " so she wanted to wait and not do it until then which I wont do it then anyway but at least she is somewhat proactive. nna Bond wrote: No. In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot until she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop Reyes Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. nna No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I was told about it at my sons 2 yr checkup--they are giving it the same time as the second MMR, so at 4 if in childcare or by entering kindergarten. My son had the second MMR at 19 months (there was mumps here in town and he gets services from so many therapists I was afraid of a carrier--he is already legally blind--could not risk him losing hearing too, and we were already into the autism dx process) but I will be questioning the need for the ckpox booster. Apparently it is only partially effective with the first dose, as are the other vaccines. > > My doctor said that they are reccomending the booster, but it is not a > requirement for school " yet " so she wanted to wait and not do it until then > which I wont do it then anyway but at least she is somewhat proactive. > > nna Bond <mbond@... <mbond%40wareNetworks.net>> > wrote: No. > > In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot > until > she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when > he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. > > I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a > " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop > Reyes > Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. > > nna > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 > 5:26 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I was told about it at my sons 2 yr checkup--they are giving it the same time as the second MMR, so at 4 if in childcare or by entering kindergarten. My son had the second MMR at 19 months (there was mumps here in town and he gets services from so many therapists I was afraid of a carrier--he is already legally blind--could not risk him losing hearing too, and we were already into the autism dx process) but I will be questioning the need for the ckpox booster. Apparently it is only partially effective with the first dose, as are the other vaccines. > > My doctor said that they are reccomending the booster, but it is not a > requirement for school " yet " so she wanted to wait and not do it until then > which I wont do it then anyway but at least she is somewhat proactive. > > nna Bond <mbond@... <mbond%40wareNetworks.net>> > wrote: No. > > In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot > until > she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when > he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. > > I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a > " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop > Reyes > Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. > > nna > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 > 5:26 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I was told about it at my sons 2 yr checkup--they are giving it the same time as the second MMR, so at 4 if in childcare or by entering kindergarten. My son had the second MMR at 19 months (there was mumps here in town and he gets services from so many therapists I was afraid of a carrier--he is already legally blind--could not risk him losing hearing too, and we were already into the autism dx process) but I will be questioning the need for the ckpox booster. Apparently it is only partially effective with the first dose, as are the other vaccines. > > My doctor said that they are reccomending the booster, but it is not a > requirement for school " yet " so she wanted to wait and not do it until then > which I wont do it then anyway but at least she is somewhat proactive. > > nna Bond <mbond@... <mbond%40wareNetworks.net>> > wrote: No. > > In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot > until > she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when > he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. > > I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a > " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop > Reyes > Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. > > nna > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 > 5:26 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 For what it is worth, I am seeing a huge increase of shingles among children who've been given the chickenpox vaccine, as well as their parents and other caregivers (thru secondary exposure, or vaccine shedding by the kids), and adults who have gotten the vaccine. I am a " chicken pox survivor " as are all three of my own children, who got the disease before the vaccine was given (thankfully). Additionally, many of the autistic children I work with received the Varicella (chicken pox vaccine) the same day as the MMR and those are some of the more difficult kids to recover. Not impossible, but definitely more difficult than those who had only the MMR on one day and the Varicella on the next. My kids who've been " cleared " or detoxed homeopathically for varicella vaccines frequently break out in at least a few chicken pox-like blisters, but a few weeks to months later a few have tested with lowered titers for several herpetic strains (via an MD - I am not licensed to diagnose or do any invasive testing.but sometimes when it looks, quacks and walks like a duck, you can pretty well guess it's a duck). They also tend to exhibit improved behaviors and better language. For my money, the Varicella vaccine is at best useless and at worst, carries a known risk for shingles. It's in the literature - you just have to dig for it. L. , HD(R.Hom.), DSH-P, DIHom. President, Homeopathy Center of Houston Founder, Houston School of Homeopathy 7670 Woodway Drive, Suite 340 Houston, TX 77063 www.HomeopathyHouston.com www.HomeopathyForAutism.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 For what it is worth, I am seeing a huge increase of shingles among children who've been given the chickenpox vaccine, as well as their parents and other caregivers (thru secondary exposure, or vaccine shedding by the kids), and adults who have gotten the vaccine. I am a " chicken pox survivor " as are all three of my own children, who got the disease before the vaccine was given (thankfully). Additionally, many of the autistic children I work with received the Varicella (chicken pox vaccine) the same day as the MMR and those are some of the more difficult kids to recover. Not impossible, but definitely more difficult than those who had only the MMR on one day and the Varicella on the next. My kids who've been " cleared " or detoxed homeopathically for varicella vaccines frequently break out in at least a few chicken pox-like blisters, but a few weeks to months later a few have tested with lowered titers for several herpetic strains (via an MD - I am not licensed to diagnose or do any invasive testing.but sometimes when it looks, quacks and walks like a duck, you can pretty well guess it's a duck). They also tend to exhibit improved behaviors and better language. For my money, the Varicella vaccine is at best useless and at worst, carries a known risk for shingles. It's in the literature - you just have to dig for it. L. , HD(R.Hom.), DSH-P, DIHom. President, Homeopathy Center of Houston Founder, Houston School of Homeopathy 7670 Woodway Drive, Suite 340 Houston, TX 77063 www.HomeopathyHouston.com www.HomeopathyForAutism.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 but isn't there something about not being exposed as a child and then being exposed as an adult? i think i remember that at the very least is can make you sterile?? nna Bond wrote: No. In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot until she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop Reyes Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. nna No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 but isn't there something about not being exposed as a child and then being exposed as an adult? i think i remember that at the very least is can make you sterile?? nna Bond wrote: No. In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot until she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop Reyes Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. nna No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 but isn't there something about not being exposed as a child and then being exposed as an adult? i think i remember that at the very least is can make you sterile?? nna Bond wrote: No. In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot until she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop Reyes Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. nna No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Yikes! I'll have to tell that to my husband. He had chicken pox like normal as a kid but has had shingles twice - once as a teenager and once as an adult. His mom also has recurrent shingles. As Dan Olmsted suggested in the article series I mentioned, there seems to be a subset of people who have difficulty " processing " the herpes virus, which both shingles and chicken pox belong to. Had we known that, we would never have allowed our son to get that ProQuad shot. - Jimmy 10/12/2001 -- In Texas-Autism-Advocacy , A Chapman wrote: > > but isn't there something about not being exposed as a child and then being exposed as an adult? i think i remember that at the very least is can make you sterile?? > > nna Bond wrote: No. > > In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot until > she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when > he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. > > I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a > " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop Reyes > Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. > > nna > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 > 5:26 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Yikes! I'll have to tell that to my husband. He had chicken pox like normal as a kid but has had shingles twice - once as a teenager and once as an adult. His mom also has recurrent shingles. As Dan Olmsted suggested in the article series I mentioned, there seems to be a subset of people who have difficulty " processing " the herpes virus, which both shingles and chicken pox belong to. Had we known that, we would never have allowed our son to get that ProQuad shot. - Jimmy 10/12/2001 -- In Texas-Autism-Advocacy , A Chapman wrote: > > but isn't there something about not being exposed as a child and then being exposed as an adult? i think i remember that at the very least is can make you sterile?? > > nna Bond wrote: No. > > In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot until > she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when > he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. > > I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a > " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop Reyes > Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. > > nna > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 > 5:26 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Yikes! I'll have to tell that to my husband. He had chicken pox like normal as a kid but has had shingles twice - once as a teenager and once as an adult. His mom also has recurrent shingles. As Dan Olmsted suggested in the article series I mentioned, there seems to be a subset of people who have difficulty " processing " the herpes virus, which both shingles and chicken pox belong to. Had we known that, we would never have allowed our son to get that ProQuad shot. - Jimmy 10/12/2001 -- In Texas-Autism-Advocacy , A Chapman wrote: > > but isn't there something about not being exposed as a child and then being exposed as an adult? i think i remember that at the very least is can make you sterile?? > > nna Bond wrote: No. > > In fact, my daughter, who never got chickenpox, wasn't given the shot until > she was 14. She is now 20, but no mention of a booster. My son got it when > he was younger, and no mention of a booster for him, either. > > I have very mixed feelings about the chickenpox vaccine...it is not a > " killer disease " unless you take aspirin while you have it and develop Reyes > Syndrome. Not sure why we all need a vaccine for it. > > nna > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 > 5:26 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 hi.. my friend has a son with autism and down's... he is worried about his son's upcoming chicken pox vaccine... does this contain thimerosol? thanks.. LiaStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 hi.. we both live in PA... yes..he could get a medical exempt. thaanks.. LiaStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 No, but it has live viruses that can definitely be a problem.Peace,Kathy E.On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:54 PM, LFMleczko@... wrote:hi.. my friend has a son with autism and down's... he is worried about his son's upcoming chicken pox vaccine... does this contain thimerosol? thanks.. LiaStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 No, because it is a live virus vaccine and the thimerosal would probably kill the virus. But your friend has more to worry about than thimerosal. Do you know what state your friend lives in? Thye maybe able to get a philosophical exemption. > > hi.. my friend has a son with autism and down's... he is worried about his > son's upcoming chicken pox vaccine... does this contain thimerosol? thanks.. > Lia > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I believe that chickenpox is a herpes type virus-- the kind that likes to cross the BBB in immune-collapsed kids and set up camp in the brain. Thus the brain viruses we see. If he's been diagnosed with autism, the likelihood is that he may still have permeable membranes (people with advanced alzheimers have even more permeability, so I imagine that the membranes don't ever act as proper barriers regarding some environmental injuries), so why take the chance? The vax has all the other toxic crap in it, too. I agree that the parents should seek an exemption. > > > > hi.. my friend has a son with autism and down's... he is worried > about his > > son's upcoming chicken pox vaccine... does this contain thimerosol? > thanks.. > > Lia > > > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in > shape. > > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 This is true, the varicella (chickenpox) virus is also known as herpes zoster when it recurs as shingles. It can remain latent in the ganglia for decades. The attenuated virus used in the vaccine has caused a rash (no pun intended) of cases of shingles among preschool children, something that previously was almost unheard of. In some of these cases, the virus has actually been cultured and found to be the vaccine strain (as I recall, named OKA).Peace,Kathy E.On Jan 31, 2008, at 5:58 PM, anacat_11 wrote:I believe that chickenpox is a herpes type virus-- the kind that likes to cross the BBB in immune-collapsed kids and set up camp in the brain. Thus the brain viruses we see. If he's been diagnosed with autism, the likelihood is that he may still have permeable membranes (people with advanced alzheimers have even more permeability, so I imagine that the membranes don't ever act as proper barriers regarding some environmental injuries), so why take the chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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