Vaccine and Autism link in court!!!…Not!!!…

[Guest guest]

U.S. courts have ruled in favor of a family that suspects the child's

symptoms were caused by a vaccine the child received. All of this is

true. However, what the press wants you to think is that this is a

concession by the United States that there is a link between autism

and vaccines. This is false.

First of all, the child was found to have autism-like symptoms, she

was never diagnosed with autism. She also had a rare genetic,

mitochondrial deficiency. Her symptoms were linked to the vaccine

because, according to a time-line of symptoms, the vaccine may have

exacerbated or exemplified her already underlying disease. This led

to her to have autism-like symptoms. However, more than 5,000 people

are now about to sue the government, claiming that vaccines caused

their child's autism.

The funny thing is, this " test case " was settled. If the lawyers of

this case thought they had a class-action lawsuit in the wake with

this case, they never would have settled. They would have forced a

court ruling, in hopes to make a case for the other thousands of people.

The government has set up this fund to reward people who actually get

injured by vaccines. They have done this to protect you, because for

all those people who hate for their children to get vaccines, they

know that if the vaccine causes harm to their child, they will be

compensated. However, rarely does the vaccine cause harm, in this

case, it was not proved to be the cause, it just was possible, and

therefore the case was settled. In no way has there been a link to

vaccines and autism. Sorry.

http://rxnews.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/vaccine-and-autism-link-in-courtnot/

[Guest guest]

" " all those people who hate for their children to get vaccines, they

know that if the vaccine causes harm to their child, they will be

compensated. --- " "

What monetary compensation makes up for the destruction of a healthy

life?? How can money give back a child his/her mind?? How can money

cure chronic immune system dysfunction? Chronic diarrhea or

constipation? How can money make up for life threatening asthma

attacks?? How can money make up for the loss of self? The inability

to communicate? How can money soothe the ache in a parents heart? The

grief of a child lost?

First of all, they don't acknowledge the true numbers of vaccine

injured children. There are hundreds of thousands of families in

great financial distress because of vaccine damage to their children.

Every one of those families would probably trade all of their

material goods just to have a healthy child who will grow up to have

a normal life.

Money after the damage is done is no good. The focus should be on

making vaccines safe for all. Then we won't need a vaccine court.

I would give anything if I could make my child healthy again.

>

> U.S. courts have ruled in favor of a family that suspects the

child's

> symptoms were caused by a vaccine the child received. All of this

is

> true. However, what the press wants you to think is that this is a

> concession by the United States that there is a link between autism

> and vaccines. This is false.

>

> First of all, the child was found to have autism-like symptoms, she

> was never diagnosed with autism. She also had a rare genetic,

> mitochondrial deficiency. Her symptoms were linked to the vaccine

> because, according to a time-line of symptoms, the vaccine may have

> exacerbated or exemplified her already underlying disease. This led

> to her to have autism-like symptoms. However, more than 5,000

people

> are now about to sue the government, claiming that vaccines caused

> their child's autism.

>

> The funny thing is, this " test case " was settled. If the lawyers of

> this case thought they had a class-action lawsuit in the wake with

> this case, they never would have settled. They would have forced a

> court ruling, in hopes to make a case for the other thousands of

people.

>

> The government has set up this fund to reward people who actually

get

> injured by vaccines. They have done this to protect you, because

for

> all those people who hate for their children to get vaccines, they

> know that if the vaccine causes harm to their child, they will be

> compensated. However, rarely does the vaccine cause harm, in this

> case, it was not proved to be the cause, it just was possible, and

> therefore the case was settled. In no way has there been a link to

> vaccines and autism. Sorry.

>

>

>

> http://rxnews.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/vaccine-and-autism-link-in-

courtnot/

>

[Guest guest]

After reading Dr. Poling's comments regarding his daughter's condition, you might wish to reconsider some of your statements. They are not accurate.

DR. JON POLING TO DR. STEVEN NOVELLA ON AGE OF AUTISM

03/11/2008

http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/03/dr-jon-poling-o.html

Please note Dr. Poling's comments regarding genetic mutation. Remember, Hannah's mother does not have autism.

2. Mito Genetic Finding? Mito mtDNA `red herring' ?

ADDITIONAL GENETIC TESTING NOT AVAILABLE IN THE J CHILD NEUROL CASE REPORT: Dr. Shoffner performed genetic testing on both Hannah's muscle and her mother's leukocytes subsequent to our case report. Hannah (muscle mtDNA) and her mother (leukocyte mtDNA) were both found to be HOMOPLASMIC for the mtDNA T2387C transition mutation.

Our analysis of this genetic finding in the mtDNA was significantly different than those of other physicians that I've seen in scientific blogs or commentary. I suspect it would have been fatal to both Hannah and her mother if this homoplasmic mutation was pathogenic since (as I am sure you are aware) the mutation is on the 16S ribosomal subunit which is highly conserved. Thus, this mutation probably represents a benign polymorphism rather than pathogenic mutation. It is unlikely, but possible, that the mutation is significant to Hannah, but in such a case, it must work in concert with other nuclear genes to cause her mitochondrial dysfunction. To our knowledge, this point mutation has not been reported in cases similar to Hannah's.

Also, Dr. Poling published a paper regarding his daughter's condition in the Journal of Child Neurology in 2006. Note the title:

Developmental regression and mitochondrial dysfunction in a child with autism.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16566887?ordinalpos=1 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

The government did not settle the Poling case - they conceded it. There is a difference.

Settlev. to resolve a lawsuit without a final court judgment by negotiation between the parties, usually with the assistance of attorneys and/or insurance adjusters, and sometimes prodding by a judge. Most legal disputes are settled prior to trial.

http://dictionary.law.com/

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Concede

1.

to acknowledge as true, just, or proper; admit: He finally conceded that she was right.

2.

to acknowledge (an opponent's victory, score, etc.) before it is officially established: to concede an election before all the votes are counted.

3.

to grant as a right or privilege; yield: to concede a longer vacation for all employees.

–verb (used without object)

4.

to make concession; yield; admit: She was so persistent that I conceded at last.

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v. tr. To acknowledge, often reluctantly, as being true, just, or proper; admit. See Synonyms at acknowledge.

To yield or grant (a privilege or right, for example).

-

verb

1.

admit (to a wrongdoing); "She confessed that she had taken the money"

2.

be willing to concede; "I grant you this much"

3.

give over; surrender or relinquish to the physical control of another

4.

acknowledge defeat; "The candidate conceded after enough votes had come in to show that he would lose"

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2 & q=concede

>> U.S. courts have ruled in favor of a family that suspects the child's> symptoms were caused by a vaccine the child received. All of this is> true. However, what the press wants you to think is that this is a> concession by the United States that there is a link between autism> and vaccines. This is false.> > First of all, the child was found to have autism-like symptoms, she> was never diagnosed with autism. She also had a rare genetic,> mitochondrial deficiency. Her symptoms were linked to the vaccine> because, according to a time-line of symptoms, the vaccine may have> exacerbated or exemplified her already underlying disease. This led> to her to have autism-like symptoms. However, more than 5,000 people> are now about to sue the government, claiming that vaccines caused> their child's autism.> > The funny thing is, this "test case" was settled. If the lawyers of> this case thought they had a class-action lawsuit in the wake with> this case, they never would have settled. They would have forced a> court ruling, in hopes to make a case for the other thousands of people. > > The government has set up this fund to reward people who actually get> injured by vaccines. They have done this to protect you, because for> all those people who hate for their children to get vaccines, they> know that if the vaccine causes harm to their child, they will be> compensated. However, rarely does the vaccine cause harm, in this> case, it was not proved to be the cause, it just was possible, and> therefore the case was settled. In no way has there been a link to> vaccines and autism. Sorry. > > > > http://rxnews.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/vaccine-and-autism-link-in-courtnot/>

[Guest guest]

I hope people understand that angndon1994 didn't actually write the

words to this post. Click on the link at the bottom of this first

post in the thread: this post is a cut and paste of a statement left

on the Pharmacy News site by someone else. I assume that posting this

here was an invitation for people to leave responses at the site. It

may be that the responses to angndon actually were left at the site

and I'm mistaken.

What a fiery crew we have here. Keep it up folks (but aim it right).

:-D

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> U.S. courts have ruled in favor of a family that suspects the

child's

> symptoms were caused by a vaccine the child received. All of this

is

> true. However, what the press wants you to think is that this is a

> concession by the United States that there is a link between autism

> and vaccines. This is false.

>

> First of all, the child was found to have autism-like symptoms, she

> was never diagnosed with autism. She also had a rare genetic,

> mitochondrial deficiency. Her symptoms were linked to the vaccine

> because, according to a time-line of symptoms, the vaccine may have

> exacerbated or exemplified her already underlying disease. This led

> to her to have autism-like symptoms. However, more than 5,000

people

> are now about to sue the government, claiming that vaccines caused

> their child's autism.

>

> The funny thing is, this " test case " was settled. If the lawyers of

> this case thought they had a class-action lawsuit in the wake with

> this case, they never would have settled. They would have forced a

> court ruling, in hopes to make a case for the other thousands of

people.

>

> The government has set up this fund to reward people who actually

get

> injured by vaccines. They have done this to protect you, because

for

> all those people who hate for their children to get vaccines, they

> know that if the vaccine causes harm to their child, they will be

> compensated. However, rarely does the vaccine cause harm, in this

> case, it was not proved to be the cause, it just was possible, and

> therefore the case was settled. In no way has there been a link to

> vaccines and autism. Sorry.

>

>

>

> http://rxnews.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/vaccine-and-autism-link-in-

courtnot/

>

[Guest guest]

Someone shared in class the other day that at our local Children's

Hospital about half the premies at any given time have family

constantly surrounding and advocating for them, the other half are

essentially abandoned. Evidently, though most of us here cannot

comprehend, there is a significant segment of society who deem

children as less than human.

Perhaps those types of people are the ones running the vaccine program

and created " compensation " for " damaged " children.

Debi

[Guest guest]

My apologies to angndon1994. I didn't follow the link provided. (I

rarely do when the information provided is so obviously inaccurate and

biased.) To avoid confusion in the future, might I suggest we clearly

indicate when we're quoting others.

Again, I apologize to angndon1994 for jumping to conclusions.

>

> I hope people understand that angndon1994 didn't actually write the

> words to this post. Click on the link at the bottom of this first

> post in the thread: this post is a cut and paste of a statement left

> on the Pharmacy News site by someone else. I assume that posting this

> here was an invitation for people to leave responses at the site. It

> may be that the responses to angndon actually were left at the site

> and I'm mistaken.

>

> What a fiery crew we have here. Keep it up folks (but aim it right).

> :-D

>

> --- In EOHarm , " angndon1994 " :

> >

> > U.S. courts have ruled in favor of a family that suspects the

> child's

> > symptoms were caused by a vaccine the child received. All of this

> is

> > true. However, what the press wants you to think is that this is a

> > concession by the United States that there is a link between autism

> > and vaccines. This is false.

> >

> > First of all, the child was found to have autism-like symptoms, she

> > was never diagnosed with autism. She also had a rare genetic,

> > mitochondrial deficiency. Her symptoms were linked to the vaccine

> > because, according to a time-line of symptoms, the vaccine may have

> > exacerbated or exemplified her already underlying disease. This led

> > to her to have autism-like symptoms. However, more than 5,000

> people

> > are now about to sue the government, claiming that vaccines caused

> > their child's autism.

> >

> > The funny thing is, this " test case " was settled. If the lawyers of

> > this case thought they had a class-action lawsuit in the wake with

> > this case, they never would have settled. They would have forced a

> > court ruling, in hopes to make a case for the other thousands of

> people.

> >

> > The government has set up this fund to reward people who actually

> get

> > injured by vaccines. They have done this to protect you, because

> for

> > all those people who hate for their children to get vaccines, they

> > know that if the vaccine causes harm to their child, they will be

> > compensated. However, rarely does the vaccine cause harm, in this

> > case, it was not proved to be the cause, it just was possible, and

> > therefore the case was settled. In no way has there been a link to

> > vaccines and autism. Sorry.

> >

> >

> >

> > http://rxnews.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/vaccine-and-autism-link-in-

> courtnot/

> >

>