Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 If I find a doctor to do this which lab is reliable to get accurate results? Why is it that if there is no positive result for mercury in a hair test there still might be some? Why would a urine challenge test following DMSA be any more reliable than the urine and blood tests ( and hair analysis)my son has already had? Are these labs reliable? Don't they stand to benefit if they get parents of autistic children to start doing these tests so they will report results positive for metals. Should I use an old lock of her vs. hair from today to do a hair analysis. Is there any difference? Would one be better than the other? -- Terry calicocookie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 With vaccines each person has been injected with mercury (thimerosal), what are the chances of being injected with a deadly toxin and it not being inside you? Many people do not chelate or remove mercury from their bodies, so these toxins will not show up in hair. BUT IT IS STILL THERE. DMSA (Chemet succimer) will kick the mercury out of the cells that it is hiding in to give a better test, but even this does not always show what is considered toxic levels of mercury. The low levels of mercury required to make a SIDS death baby (sudden infant death syndrome) are well below the toxic levels, yet baby is still DEAD. So what levels of a toxic metal is OK? Maybe zero? Any hair is OK to use, and old hair will let you see what was happening at the time of the hair cut. If I were you I would go ahead and test old hair, and a current sample. For the most current study on DMSA (Chemet succimer), go to messages/govinfo and type in tlc this will give the most current study on the use of the drug. The 350 placebo children were in most cases LESS healthy than the 350 Chemet children. Why would a doctor withhold a medication that is 3 times less harmful than a placebo?? (a sugar pill) > If I find a doctor to do this which lab is reliable to get accurate results? > Why is it that if there is no positive result for mercury in a hair test > there still might be some? Why would a urine challenge test following DMSA > be any more reliable than the urine and blood tests ( and hair analysis)my > son has already had? Are these labs reliable? Don't they stand to benefit > if they get parents of autistic children to start doing these tests so they > will report results positive for metals. > > Should I use an old lock of her vs. hair from today to do a hair analysis. > Is there any difference? Would one be better than the other? > -- > Terry > calicocookie@y... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 > If I find a doctor to do this which lab is reliable to get accurate results? Doctor's Data. > Why is it that if there is no positive result for mercury in a hair test > there still might be some? Mercury impairs mineral transport, which means it messes up how much mercury (a mineral) gets moved into the hair. >Why would a urine challenge test following DMSA > be any more reliable than the urine and blood tests ( and hair analysis)my > son has already had? Urine challenge tests are totally worthless and should never be used since they entail risk and cost extra money. >Are these labs reliable? Yes. Much more so than " mainstream " labs. >Don't they stand to benefit > if they get parents of autistic children to start doing these tests so they > will report results positive for metals. No more so than any lab benefits from running tests, or any doctor benefits from making a diagnosis that requires more visits. > Should I use an old lock of her vs. hair from today to do a hair analysis. Hair from today is fine. Andy Cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Dear Andy: When I've suspected Hg poisoning but hair doesn't show it, sometimes the only way I can convince is to do a challenge test. When they see the Hg pouring out, they become believers and are willing to undergo chelation. Parents are usually willing to start chelation anyway because they already know about the vaccination input of Hg, but many adults need this kind of evidence. This is particularly true of those who've had their amalgams removed so think the problem is solved, even though they still have lots of symptoms. One man had his first day of no headache in years on the day I was doing the challenge test, and has gone on to very successful results with chelation. I've had no bad results from doing the challenge test so far, but do believe for kids its usually not necessary. Jaquelyn Cutler wrote: > > > If I find a doctor to do this which lab is reliable to get accurate > results? > > Doctor's Data. > > > Why is it that if there is no positive result for mercury in a hair > test > > there still might be some? > > Mercury impairs mineral transport, which means it messes up how much > mercury (a mineral) gets moved into the hair. > > >Why would a urine challenge test > following DMSA > > be any more reliable than the urine and blood tests ( and hair > analysis)my > > son has already had? > > Urine challenge tests are totally worthless and should never be used > since they entail risk and cost extra money. > > >Are these labs reliable? > > Yes. Much more so than " mainstream " labs. > > >Don't they stand to benefit > > if they get parents of autistic children to start doing these tests > so they > > will report results positive for metals. > > No more so than any lab benefits from running tests, or any doctor > benefits from making a diagnosis that requires more visits. > > > Should I use an old lock of her vs. hair from today to do a hair > analysis. > > Hair from today is fine. > > Andy Cutler > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 In a message dated 12/31/00 11:43:20 AM Central Standard Time, AndyCutler@... writes: << >Why would a urine challenge test following DMSA > be any more reliable than the urine and blood tests ( and hair analysis)my > son has already had? Urine challenge tests are totally worthless and should never be used since they entail risk and cost extra money. >> If the " challenge test " is doing a round of typical chelation at a safe dose, it often will show more metals than urine taken with no provocative agent (chelator) but not always. Sometimes it takes a few rounds for stuff to show up since the body eliminates at different rates and sometimes the metals get bound up. However, a provocative urine test can be more telling often than just hair alone. Sometimes you can get cross-contamination and false positives if the hair is washed in water containing toxic metals. Also, sometimes you don't see alot of metals in hair but then see them during a round of chelation because it is from very old exposures that may be tucked elsewhere in the body. I think what Andy is saying is dangerous is when a much larger dosage of chelator is given than would normally be given during rounds of chelation to force more metals out for test purposes. I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm assuming wrongly, but I think he'd agree that doing a test round or two of chelation and testing urine is wise to do if you suspect toxicity even if the hair analysis doesn't show high. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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