Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 The most difficult thing right now is that the DEA is making compounding pharmacies responsible for misuse of prescriptions from doctors. For some strange reason, the DEA expects the compounding industry to double checks if a prescription is medically justified. This is not the job of a pharmacy. Only doctors know if something is medically justified when used on or off label. Every quarter, the DEA would come in these pharmacies unannounced and collect all records, take them to their offices and hold them there for weeks for review. When they find a prescription that may be unjustified, the try to penalize the pharmacy instead of the doctor who wrote it. That is the reason Applied Pharmacy is closing down...just too much work and the craziness of being punished for things out of their control. I see the day when people with HIV will have to get nandrolone from the black market if we do not step up. In a message dated 3/3/2008 7:07:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, al@... writes: 1. Steroids and Recombinant Human Growth Hormone are powerful medicines for people dealing with Cancer, MS , burns, AIDS. 2. In the process of investigating steroid use in Pro Sports, the medical uses of these medications should not be forgotten and must be protected. 3. Death rates from HIV had fallen because of the medical use of steroids and rHGH, years prior to the Highly Active Anti Retroviral Therapy (HAART) 4. Don't make AIDS patients pay for the misdeeds of Athletes. Do not stigmatize legitimate medical use because of misuse in Pro Sports.It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Dear List, Here is an updated list of pharmacies compounding nandrolone decanoate, known previously by the trade name Deca Durabolin. Sadly, Applied Pharmacy is now out of business due to DOJ pressure. This should be a warning to us all. Unless we defend out health care options, we will lose them one by one. We have also added, thanks to the work of our friend Larry, the information on the compounding pharmacy used by Kaiser Hospitals in California. At certain times I think we in the HIV community have forgotten the lessons of how we have managed to survive to this day. We did it by fighting and demanding medical options. Acting-up, to coin a phrase. It's an election year, and our politicians in Washington DC have decided to take on the steroid menace to American Sports, since it appears that nothing else need their attention. But, many of us who are HIV Positive and many who suffer from extensive burns , MS and cancer cachexia need these very same steroids and other hormones, to maintain out health; in some cases to simply stay alive. If we don't speak-up now on our own behalf, we will surely see fewer and fewer doctors able to withstand the political pressures and soon we will see huge constraints on our doctors' ability to dispense medical care and write prescriptions as they think best. Do you really want a politician or a DOJ official having the final word on your health care? If you want to help protect your medical options, write to Henry A. Waxman, the Chairman of the Congressional House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform and tell him the following things in your own words. Address him in the following way at the following address: The Honorable, Henry A Waxman 2204 Rayburn House Office BuildingWashington, D.C. 20515(202) 225-3976 (phone)(202) 225-4099 (fax) Dear Chairman Waxman, …and then in your own words make some of these points: 1. Steroids and Recombinant Human Growth Hormone are powerful medicines for people dealing with Cancer, MS , burns, AIDS. 2. In the process of investigating steroid use in Pro Sports, the medical uses of these medications should not be forgotten and must be protected. 3. Death rates from HIV had fallen because of the medical use of steroids and rHGH, years prior to the Highly Active Anti Retroviral Therapy (HAART) 4. Don't make AIDS patients pay for the misdeeds of Athletes. Do not stigmatize legitimate medical use because of misuse in Pro Sports. Always be courteous and polite when making your arguments, it really does score points. Here is the updated compounding pharmacy list. Name Address Phone number Fax Number Web E mail Cost per ml of Nandrolone (200 mg/ml) The Compounding Shop 4000 Park St. N St sburg Florida 33709 866-792-6731 727-347-2056 www.gotocompoundingshop.com info@... $12.00 per ml in 10 ml multi dose vial Collage Pharmacy 3505 Austin Bluffs Parkway, Suite 101Colorado Springs, CO 80918 800-888-9358 (800) 556-5893 or (719) 262-0035 http://collegepharmacy.com info@... only available as a 10 ml multi dose vial for $94.75 this is for 200 mg/ml, this compounder also offers100 mg/ml Kronos Compounding Pharmacy Now sold to AnazaoHealth 3675 S. Rainbow Blvd.Suite #103Las Vegas, NV 89103-1059 800-723-7455 800-238-8239 www.anazaohealth.com info@... $26.50 per ml for a 10 ML vial Medaus Pharmacy 2637 Valleydale RoadBirmingham, Alabama 35244 800-526-9184 800-526-9184 http://www.medaus.com\ info@... $44.00 per ml in one ml vials or or 18.60 per ml in 10 ml multi dose vials B & B Pharmacy 10244 Rosecrans Ave BellFlower, CA 90706 562-866-8363 http://www.bbpharmacy.com/index.html info@... $130.00 per ML, will take insurance and ADAP Leiter's Pharmacy, compounds for KAISER, not exclusively 1700 Park Avenue #30 San , CA 95126 800-292-6773 408-292-6772 $10.00 per ML in a 30 ml vial, accepts ADAP and Kaiser insurance. Scripts to be covered by Kaiser need to come from Kaiser Doctors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 are there any compounding pharmacies in NYC that anyone knows of who provide this service? Update: Pharmacies compounding Nandrolone ('Deca') Dear List, Here is an updated list of pharmacies compounding nandrolone decanoate, known previously by the trade name Deca Durabolin. Sadly, Applied Pharmacy is now out of business due to DOJ pressure. This should be a warning to us all. Unless we defend out health care options, we will lose them one by one. We have also added, thanks to the work of our friend Larry, the information on the compounding pharmacy used by Kaiser Hospitals in California. At certain times I think we in the HIV community have forgotten the lessons of how we have managed to survive to this day. We did it by fighting and demanding medical options. Acting-up, to coin a phrase. It's an election year, and our politicians in Washington DC have decided to take on the steroid menace to American Sports, since it appears that nothing else need their attention. But, many of us who are HIV Positive and many who suffer from extensive burns , MS and cancer cachexia need these very same steroids and other hormones, to maintain out health; in some cases to simply stay alive. If we don't speak-up now on our own behalf, we will surely see fewer and fewer doctors able to withstand the political pressures and soon we will see huge constraints on our doctors' ability to dispense medical care and write prescriptions as they think best. Do you really want a politician or a DOJ official having the final word on your health care? If you want to help protect your medical options, write to Henry A. Waxman, the Chairman of the Congressional House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform and tell him the following things in your own words. Address him in the following way at the following address: The Honorable, Henry A Waxman 2204 Rayburn House Office BuildingWashington, D.C. 20515(202) 225-3976 (phone)(202) 225-4099 (fax) Dear Chairman Waxman, …and then in your own words make some of these points: 1. Steroids and Recombinant Human Growth Hormone are powerful medicines for people dealing with Cancer, MS , burns, AIDS. 2. In the process of investigating steroid use in Pro Sports, the medical uses of these medications should not be forgotten and must be protected. 3. Death rates from HIV had fallen because of the medical use of steroids and rHGH, years prior to the Highly Active Anti Retroviral Therapy (HAART) 4. Don't make AIDS patients pay for the misdeeds of Athletes. Do not stigmatize legitimate medical use because of misuse in Pro Sports. Always be courteous and polite when making your arguments, it really does score points. Here is the updated compounding pharmacy list. Name Address Phone number Fax Number Web E mail Cost per ml of Nandrolone (200 mg/ml) The Compounding Shop 4000 Park St. N St sburg Florida 33709 866-792-6731 727-347-2056 www.gotocompoundingshop.com infogotocompoundingshop $12.00 per ml in 10 ml multi dose vial Collage Pharmacy 3505 Austin Bluffs Parkway, Suite 101Colorado Springs, CO 80918 800-888-9358 (800) 556-5893 or (719) 262-0035 http://collegepharmacy.com infocollegepharmacy only available as a 10 ml multi dose vial for $94.75 this is for 200 mg/ml, this compounder also offers100 mg/ml Kronos Compounding Pharmacy Now sold to AnazaoHealth 3675 S. Rainbow Blvd.Suite #103Las Vegas, NV 89103-1059 800-723-7455 800-238-8239 www.anazaohealth.com infoanziohealth $26.50 per ml for a 10 ML vial Medaus Pharmacy 2637 Valleydale RoadBirmingham, Alabama 35244 800-526-9184 800-526-9184 http://www.medaus.com\ infomedaus $44.00 per ml in one ml vials or or 18.60 per ml in 10 ml multi dose vials B & B Pharmacy 10244 Rosecrans Ave BellFlower, CA 90706 562-866-8363 http://www.bbpharmacy.com/index.html infoBBPharmacy $130.00 per ML, will take insurance and ADAP Leiter's Pharmacy, compounds for KAISER, not exclusively 1700 Park Avenue #30 San , CA 95126 800-292-6773 408-292-6772 $10.00 per ML in a 30 ml vial, accepts ADAP and Kaiser insurance. Scripts to be covered by Kaiser need to come from Kaiser Doctors No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1308 - Release Date: 3/3/2008 10:01 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Dear List, As it happens I went to Kaiser today to pick up my nadralone. It turns out ADAP dosesn't cover compounded medications. (Surprise!) This is for California, but since we have probably the most progressive ADAPs in the country, I doubt it's better any where else. My cost was only 11 plus change, since I am a Kaiser member. I also may have screwed up my original information re: price. It's $300 for 10cc's or $30/cc. Sorry about that. Larry -------------- Original message -------------- From: "albert.benson" <al@...> Dear List, Here is an updated list of pharmacies compounding nandrolone decanoate, known previously by the trade name Deca Durabolin. Sadly, Applied Pharmacy is now out of business due to DOJ pressure. This should be a warning to us all. Unless we defend out health care options, we will lose them one by one. We have also added, thanks to the work of our friend Larry, the information on the compounding pharmacy used by Kaiser Hospitals in California. At certain times I think we in the HIV community have forgotten the lessons of how we have managed to survive to this day. We did it by fighting and demanding medical options. Acting-up, to coin a phrase. It's an election year, and our politicians in Washington DC have decided to take on the steroid menace to American Sports, since it appears that nothing else need their attention. But, many of us who are HIV Positive and many who suffer from extensive burns , MS and cancer cachexia need these very same steroids and other hormones, to maintain out health; in some cases to simply stay alive. If we don't speak-up now on our own behalf, we will surely see fewer and fewer doctors able to withstand the political pressures and soon we will see huge constraints on our doctors' ability to dispense medical care and write prescriptions as they think best. Do you really want a politician or a DOJ official having the final word on your health care? If you want to help protect your medical options, write to Henry A. Waxman, the Chairman of the Congressional House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform and tell him the following things in your own words. Address him in the following way at the following address: The Honorable, Henry A Waxman 2204 Rayburn House Office BuildingWashington, D.C. 20515(202) 225-3976 (phone)(202) 225-4099 (fax) Dear Chairman Waxman, …and then in your own words make some of these points: 1. Steroids and Recombinant Human Growth Hormone are powerful medicines for people dealing with Cancer, MS , burns, AIDS. 2. In the process of investigating steroid use in Pro Sports, the medical uses of these medications should not be forgotten and must be protected. 3. Death rates from HIV had fallen because of the medical use of steroids and rHGH, years prior to the Highly Active Anti Retroviral Therapy (HAART) 4. Don't make AIDS patients pay for the misdeeds of Athletes. Do not stigmatize legitimate medical use because of misuse in Pro Sports. Always be courteous and polite when making your arguments, it really does score points. Here is the updated compounding pharmacy list. Name Address Phone number Fax Number Web E mail Cost per ml of Nandrolone (200 mg/ml) The Compounding Shop 4000 Park St. N St sburg Florida 33709 866-792-6731 727-347-2056 www.gotocompoundingshop.com infogotocompoundingshop $12.00 per ml in 10 ml multi dose vial Collage Pharmacy 3505 Austin Bluffs Parkway, Suite 101Colorado Springs, CO 80918 800-888-9358 (800) 556-5893 or (719) 262-0035 http://collegepharmacy.com infocollegepharmacy only available as a 10 ml multi dose vial for $94.75 this is for 200 mg/ml, this compounder also offers100 mg/ml Kronos Compounding Pharmacy Now sold to AnazaoHealth 3675 S. Rainbow Blvd.Suite #103Las Vegas, NV 89103-1059 800-723-7455 800-238-8239 www.anazaohealth.com infoanziohealth $26.50 per ml for a 10 ML vial Medaus Pharmacy 2637 Valleydale RoadBirmingham, Alabama 35244 800-526-9184 800-526-9184 http://www.medaus.com\ infomedaus $44.00 per ml in one ml vials or or 18.60 per ml in 10 ml multi dose vials B & B Pharmacy 10244 Rosecrans Ave BellFlower, CA 90706 562-866-8363 http://www.bbpharmacy.com/index.html infoBBPharmacy $130.00 per ML, will take insurance and ADAP Leiter's Pharmacy, compounds for KAISER, not exclusively 1700 Park Avenue #30 San , CA 95126 800-292-6773 408-292-6772 $10.00 per ML in a 30 ml vial, accepts ADAP and Kaiser insurance. Scripts to be covered by Kaiser need to come from Kaiser Doctors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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