Is it arthritis or fluorosis?

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These two messages are cross posted from my new group. I thought

that some might be helped by this information.

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From: Darlene Sherrell <darlene@...>

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:27:14 -0500

Subject: Is it arthritis or fluorosis?

Hello all,

I'm a new member of this group and have been reading

the posts for a few weeks without commenting. They

bring me back to the many years when I was depressed

and in pain and unable to dress myself at times. I had

RA from age 7 to age 25, when I changed my diet and got

well. That was in 1966. I've felt better each year

since then, and at 62 have absolutely no pain or

stiffness as long as I stay on the diet. One slip-up,

however, can result in both a flare-up of RA and a

three month bout with fibromyalgia. Needless to say,

I'm a fanatic about what I eat and drink!

I wonder if any of you know what caused your arthritis.

What worked for me may not work for you ... there are

probably many possible causes behind the symptoms.

Unfortunately, although there are lab tests available

in other countries to identify fluoride as the cause of

a particular case, they have never been available in

the United States.

I've been controlling my symptoms for 36 years by

avoiding what caused them in the first place. The only

" flare-ups " I've had during that time were the result

of accidental exposure to fluorides in the air, food,

or water. You may think I'm crazy, but I'd be willing

to bet that none of you have been tested for signs that

your symptoms are caused by excess fluoride.

Did you know that fluoride causes arthritis? Would you

be surprised to learn that EPA doesn't regulate the

legal amount of fluoride in foods, drugs, beverages, or

anything else for the prevention of arthritis from too

much fluoride. They set the maximum contaminant level

in drinking water to prevent the development of the end

stage of crippling skeletal fluorosis ... not the

earlier stages of the disease, which are marked by

arthritic and gastrointestinal symptoms. The so-called

fluoridation safety studies relied on X-rays!

If any of you are interested in diets to control your

symptoms, eliminating as many sources of fluoride as

possible might be the answer. These days the major

source in food is from pesticide residues. One apple

can give you as much fluoride as five liters of

fluoridated water! One cup of tea can provide as much

as ten liters of water. At four to five milligrams a

day, fluoride is expected to cause crippling skeletal

fluorosis after about 40 years. During more than half

of that time the disease will be diagnosed as

arthritis.

All the best for a healthy and happy new year,

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Darlene Sherrell

Woburn Post Office

St. 's, GRENADA

West Indies

1-473-443-3713

http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride

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FluoridePoisoning/message/3

From: " rge072754 " <rge@...>

Date: Thu Nov 21, 2002 7:59 am

Subject: Ron's Story -Short Version

My name is Ron

Everything you have ever known or heard about Fluoride is false.

Fluoridated water is the biggest scam ever pulled on the WORLD and is

killing and sickining people everywhere..

I have been sick since 97 My symptoms did not start all at once but

became progressivly worse until the present.

Symptoms:

blurry vision - on and off not continously. got new glasses just

before I went for last MRI reading. Also looked for ICP by looking at

optic disc.

leg pains - hip, shoulder joints - I can't cross my legs - feels like

my joints are coming apart

muscle cramps and charley horses in calfs and arch of feet

mental confusion -short term memory - seems I really have to work at

remembering daily stuff

Headaches ( frontal)_ worse as day goes on

dizziness, like an airpane ride , disconnected , sometimes feels like

I am 3 feet off the ground or I am sitting sideways up on the wall -

no spinning vertigo

Brain fog - I suspect this is what alhzimers must feel like

tinnitus,-

otolaringologist says I have low frequency hearing loss

irritability - lashing out at family for no apparent reason

lack of concentration

can't sleep - up at 3-4 am and can't get back to sleep

Need to lie down in the afternoon - exhausted - feels like I am in a

comotose state - at times I can hear what is happening around me but

I can't respond

Getting fine tremmors in legs & eyelid

Dysphagia - throat feels swollen , hard to swallow at times - THROAT

GOES OPEN AND CLOSED -worse after exercise

cold hands & feet at times - cold all over at times

profuse sweating - sometimes I sweat like a pig for 15 min. after a

shower

No appitite - constant nausea - lots of bread & milk

muscle weakness & myalgic pain moving all the time

Lower back pain and neck pain comes and goes I don't think itis

linked to exercise

hands and heels really hurt at times

electric like shocks in left leg ( thigh, sometimes in feet and toes)

worst ones happen while I am

lying on couch watching TV - doubled over in pain

Fatigue is increadible - last two hours and consider it a good day!

Gums bleed , had periodontal disease

bone loss in jaw,- according to periodontist and dentist

teeth feel loose, USED TO BE ABLE TO WIGGLE THEM WITH MY TONGUE ,

drooling at times

Soft stools all the time -almost diarrhea

Getting pins and needles on chest and back after a hot shower and hot

days and exercise - started after surgery i think

Itching on arms and waist especially after a hot shower but other

times too

Seems like all this happens after I eat!!! things get worse and also

after exercise

chest pain in ribs on right side, then on left side

Heels really hurt as do my " heels " of my hands

longitudal ridges on finger/toe nails

History ( very brief- this is just the tip of the iceburg)

self diagnosed Chiari Malformation - my brains are swelling into my

spinal column - had decompression surgery in 2000 - symptoms

continued and worsened

self diagnosed Heavy metal poisoning - challenge test showed lead

mercury etc. - this was according to a holistic doctor and allopathic

doctors do not recognize these results. Chelated with DMSA - numbers

came down- still sick - then 10 weeks of EDTA IV thearpy - still sick.

Rhum. Doc diagnosis of Fibromyalgia - 6/02

self diagnosed Fluoride Poisoning - may 2002- one night I got sick

after dinner - and a couple of days later I thought back about what I

did different that nite - I drank three glasses of city water at that

meal instead of milk. Fluoride calcium seeks and makes it less toxic.

I did my own blind tests - I can pick out F water EVERY time - my

daughter can tell by my eyes if I have had 3 glasses of water!

I have confronted docs with this - Some look at me like I'm from

outer space, some belittle me, others just laugh.

My neurologist looked at me wide eyed and ordered serum and urine

fluoride tests. He never called me back. I went and got copies 3

weeks later and both were ELEVATED - my blood levels are 10x normal -

he has NOT dx me or schedualed another appmt.

Romhatoligist dx me with fibromyalgia and then I told her about

Fluoride - she doesn't want to see me again!

I found Dr. Myra Preston PHD - of SIBER IMAGING who has a patented

method of dx CFIDS through QEEG. I did before and after tests

dirnking my city water and I think I now have proof that F causes

brain damage in humans and is one of the causes of these " mysterious

syndromes " CFS,FM,GWS, MCS etc.

I scanned the report and will send it to you in another private

email if you wish, as it is 8 pages long.

Please give feed back if you can. I am willing to take this document

to court and start the fight against Fluorodation. I think this could

be the straw that breaks the camels back.

TEST RESULTS FROM DR PRESTON

Mine are unusual as I did two tests because my fluoronated city water

was making me sick. First test after staying away from as much F as

possible for 2+ weeks - second test after drinking my city water for

24 hours.

Highlights:

tested positive for all four variables to be classified as CFIDS

patient on both tests

Impression: RGE's QEEG prior to drinking water was abnormal. The

abnormalities are primarly in the ratios to total brain activation.

the prominence of slow wave activity is recorded in the delta and

theta frequencies. The lack of beta activity alsorepresents an

abnormal finding.

Following the exposure to water, RGE's delta activity increased,

theta activity decreased... Performance on these tests declined

sharply from the pre-to post water drinking... total brain function

declined in the post-water drinking QEEG.

Conclusions: Extremely abnormal QEEG due to the diffuse delta and

theta activity and the lack of brain activation in the beta range in

the frontal and temporal regions. This pattern correlates with the

patients report of severe cognitive loss. Abnormalities such as these

correlate with the limbic system and immune dysfunction, the fatigue,

the cognitive problems. It is important to note that the pre-water

evaluationwas quite abnormal, confirming the chronicity of the

patients illiness. The post-water drinking decline correlates with

the patients history of fluoride poisoning. Exposure to this toxin

exacerbated the neurophysiological disruption. ...

.... RGE clearly exhibits diffuse brain dysfunction, which typically

results from a widespread condition such as a metabolic disease

including heavy metal poisoning. This indicates a neurotoxic

poisoning. Fluoride is a neurotoxin that acts on postsynaptic

receptors. This neurotoxic condition correlates with the disrupted

brain physiology and the secondary development od Chronic Fatigue

Immune Dysfinction and Fibromyalgia Syndrome.

rge@...

Ron

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