Re: I'd Like Your Opinion on Our Test Results

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure what type of test that is (IGG or IGM), but if you have

high CMV titers (especially IGM) I would consider starting Valtrex,

yes. And if you didn't and felt you had a viral kid, I still would

do it. My son didn't test posative before, during, or after. Like

with MB12, I think a short trial will tell you if it is going to

help.

- Stan

>

>

> Stan and Others -

>

> I have 5 year old twins who are both vaccine damaged (one PDD, one

SID).

> We have been doing biomedical for a little over 2 years (GFCF and

> typical supps). We have been chelating for almost 10 months with

great

> results (TD-DMPS alone for 5 months, then TD-ALA along with it,

for the

> last 5 months). In the beginning, both boys did a handful of

> homepathic remedies, many of which were geared to help the body

clear

> viruses from the vaccines (they had relatively high titers). Both

boys

> got rashes and had regressions for about a month. Then, about 18

months

> ago, the doc introduced new ones, supposedly more effective, but

with

> the same goal. Again, we had about a month-long regression, but

this

> time no rash. Both times the boys came out of it much improved,

but it

> was very rocky during the regression. We took those for about a

year

> and stopped (switched doctors).

>

> We have recently retested immune function, titers and viruses. I

was

> hoping you could take a look at these and see if you think my kids

could

> benefit from Valtrex. Here are the results:

>

> Twin #1

2

> Years Ago Recent

>

> CD4 Absolute High

20.20

> Not Tested IgG Total

> 506 (Ref 592 - 1723) 655

> Hep

B

> Nonreactive Nonreactive

> Rubella

> Immune 2.9

(>1.1

> ref) Rubeola

> 2.48 (>1.09 ref) 1.83

>

Polio

> 1:32, 1:128, 1:128 (Ref 1:8) 1:8,1:128, 1:8

>

> Twin #2

2

> Years Ago Recent

>

> CD4 Absolute High

21.20

> Not Tested IgG

> 518 (Ref 592 - 1723 638

> Hep

B

> Nonreactive Nonreactive

>

Rubella

> Immune 2.19

(>1.1

> ref) Rubeola

> 2.59 (>1.1 ref) 1.45

> Polio

> 1:128, 1:128, 1:8 (ref 1:8) 1:32, 1:128, 1:8

>

> The boys tested negative to HHV6, Epstein Barr, and Herpes 1 and

2.

> They tested positive to CMV, though. On the ones I can compare, it

> looks like titers have improved. What do think about them showing

> nonreactive to Hep B? Anyway, do you think it looks like they are

still

> candidates for viral treatment? My DAN seems to think that

naturals

> don't work. I tried OLE in the beginning, but I couldn't get them

to

> take it (bad taste). Incidentally, my NT son's tests look almost

> exactly the same. Do you think the homeopathics did enough, or

does it

> look I still need to address the viruses? Finally, I'd love to

hear

> more about people who are chelating at the same time as using

Valtrex.

>

> Thanks for sticking it out to the end of this post, and thanks for

your

> help.

>

> Ruth

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure what type of test that is (IGG or IGM), but if you have

high CMV titers (especially IGM) I would consider starting Valtrex,

yes. And if you didn't and felt you had a viral kid, I still would

do it. My son didn't test posative before, during, or after. Like

with MB12, I think a short trial will tell you if it is going to

help.

- Stan

>

>

> Stan and Others -

>

> I have 5 year old twins who are both vaccine damaged (one PDD, one

SID).

> We have been doing biomedical for a little over 2 years (GFCF and

> typical supps). We have been chelating for almost 10 months with

great

> results (TD-DMPS alone for 5 months, then TD-ALA along with it,

for the

> last 5 months). In the beginning, both boys did a handful of

> homepathic remedies, many of which were geared to help the body

clear

> viruses from the vaccines (they had relatively high titers). Both

boys

> got rashes and had regressions for about a month. Then, about 18

months

> ago, the doc introduced new ones, supposedly more effective, but

with

> the same goal. Again, we had about a month-long regression, but

this

> time no rash. Both times the boys came out of it much improved,

but it

> was very rocky during the regression. We took those for about a

year

> and stopped (switched doctors).

>

> We have recently retested immune function, titers and viruses. I

was

> hoping you could take a look at these and see if you think my kids

could

> benefit from Valtrex. Here are the results:

>

> Twin #1

2

> Years Ago Recent

>

> CD4 Absolute High

20.20

> Not Tested IgG Total

> 506 (Ref 592 - 1723) 655

> Hep

B

> Nonreactive Nonreactive

> Rubella

> Immune 2.9

(>1.1

> ref) Rubeola

> 2.48 (>1.09 ref) 1.83

>

Polio

> 1:32, 1:128, 1:128 (Ref 1:8) 1:8,1:128, 1:8

>

> Twin #2

2

> Years Ago Recent

>

> CD4 Absolute High

21.20

> Not Tested IgG

> 518 (Ref 592 - 1723 638

> Hep

B

> Nonreactive Nonreactive

>

Rubella

> Immune 2.19

(>1.1

> ref) Rubeola

> 2.59 (>1.1 ref) 1.45

> Polio

> 1:128, 1:128, 1:8 (ref 1:8) 1:32, 1:128, 1:8

>

> The boys tested negative to HHV6, Epstein Barr, and Herpes 1 and

2.

> They tested positive to CMV, though. On the ones I can compare, it

> looks like titers have improved. What do think about them showing

> nonreactive to Hep B? Anyway, do you think it looks like they are

still

> candidates for viral treatment? My DAN seems to think that

naturals

> don't work. I tried OLE in the beginning, but I couldn't get them

to

> take it (bad taste). Incidentally, my NT son's tests look almost

> exactly the same. Do you think the homeopathics did enough, or

does it

> look I still need to address the viruses? Finally, I'd love to

hear

> more about people who are chelating at the same time as using

Valtrex.

>

> Thanks for sticking it out to the end of this post, and thanks for

your

> help.

>

> Ruth

>

[Guest guest]

It is IGG. I just relooked at the tests, though, and found one twin also has an IGG positive to HHV6. But, he wasn't positive 2 years ago. Would you use Valtrex on a child that isn't on the spectrum? Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: I'm not sure what type of test that is (IGG or IGM), but if you have high CMV titers (especially IGM) I would consider starting Valtrex, yes. And if you didn't and felt you had a viral kid, I still would do it. My son didn't test posative before, during, or after. Like with MB12, I think a short trial will tell you if it is going to help.- Stan>> > Stan and Others -> > I have 5 year old twins who are

both vaccine damaged (one PDD, one SID).> We have been doing biomedical for a little over 2 years (GFCF and> typical supps). We have been chelating for almost 10 months with great> results (TD-DMPS alone for 5 months, then TD-ALA along with it, for the> last 5 months). In the beginning, both boys did a handful of> homepathic remedies, many of which were geared to help the body clear> viruses from the vaccines (they had relatively high titers). Both boys> got rashes and had regressions for about a month. Then, about 18 months> ago, the doc introduced new ones, supposedly more effective, but with> the same goal. Again, we had about a month-long regression, but this> time no rash. Both times the boys came out of it much improved, but it> was very rocky during the regression. We took those for about a year> and

stopped (switched doctors).> > We have recently retested immune function, titers and viruses. I was> hoping you could take a look at these and see if you think my kids could> benefit from Valtrex. Here are the results:> > Twin #1 2> Years Ago Recent> > CD4

Absolute High 20.20> Not Tested IgG Total> 506 (Ref 592 - 1723) 655> Hep

B > Nonreactive Nonreactive>

Rubella > Immune 2.9 (>1.1> ref) Rubeola> 2.48 (>1.09

ref) 1.83> Polio > 1:32, 1:128, 1:128 (Ref 1:8) 1:8,1:128, 1:8> > Twin

#2 2> Years Ago Recent> > CD4 Absolute High

21.20> Not Tested IgG> 518 (Ref 592 - 1723 638> Hep B >

Nonreactive Nonreactive> Rubella >

Immune 2.19 (>1.1> ref) Rubeola> 2.59 (>1.1 ref) 1.45> Polio> 1:128, 1:128, 1:8 (ref 1:8) 1:32, 1:128, 1:8> > The boys tested negative to HHV6, Epstein Barr, and Herpes 1

and 2. > They tested positive to CMV, though. On the ones I can compare, it> looks like titers have improved. What do think about them showing> nonreactive to Hep B? Anyway, do you think it looks like they are still> candidates for viral treatment? My DAN seems to think that naturals> don't work. I tried OLE in the beginning, but I couldn't get them to> take it (bad taste). Incidentally, my NT son's tests look almost> exactly the same. Do you think the homeopathics did enough, or does it> look I still need to address the viruses? Finally, I'd love to hear> more about people who are chelating at the same time as using Valtrex.> > Thanks for sticking it out to the end of this post, and thanks for your> help.> > Ruth>

[Guest guest]

It is IGG. I just relooked at the tests, though, and found one twin also has an IGG positive to HHV6. But, he wasn't positive 2 years ago. Would you use Valtrex on a child that isn't on the spectrum? Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: I'm not sure what type of test that is (IGG or IGM), but if you have high CMV titers (especially IGM) I would consider starting Valtrex, yes. And if you didn't and felt you had a viral kid, I still would do it. My son didn't test posative before, during, or after. Like with MB12, I think a short trial will tell you if it is going to help.- Stan>> > Stan and Others -> > I have 5 year old twins who are

both vaccine damaged (one PDD, one SID).> We have been doing biomedical for a little over 2 years (GFCF and> typical supps). We have been chelating for almost 10 months with great> results (TD-DMPS alone for 5 months, then TD-ALA along with it, for the> last 5 months). In the beginning, both boys did a handful of> homepathic remedies, many of which were geared to help the body clear> viruses from the vaccines (they had relatively high titers). Both boys> got rashes and had regressions for about a month. Then, about 18 months> ago, the doc introduced new ones, supposedly more effective, but with> the same goal. Again, we had about a month-long regression, but this> time no rash. Both times the boys came out of it much improved, but it> was very rocky during the regression. We took those for about a year> and

stopped (switched doctors).> > We have recently retested immune function, titers and viruses. I was> hoping you could take a look at these and see if you think my kids could> benefit from Valtrex. Here are the results:> > Twin #1 2> Years Ago Recent> > CD4

Absolute High 20.20> Not Tested IgG Total> 506 (Ref 592 - 1723) 655> Hep

B > Nonreactive Nonreactive>

Rubella > Immune 2.9 (>1.1> ref) Rubeola> 2.48 (>1.09

ref) 1.83> Polio > 1:32, 1:128, 1:128 (Ref 1:8) 1:8,1:128, 1:8> > Twin

#2 2> Years Ago Recent> > CD4 Absolute High

21.20> Not Tested IgG> 518 (Ref 592 - 1723 638> Hep B >

Nonreactive Nonreactive> Rubella >

Immune 2.19 (>1.1> ref) Rubeola> 2.59 (>1.1 ref) 1.45> Polio> 1:128, 1:128, 1:8 (ref 1:8) 1:32, 1:128, 1:8> > The boys tested negative to HHV6, Epstein Barr, and Herpes 1

and 2. > They tested positive to CMV, though. On the ones I can compare, it> looks like titers have improved. What do think about them showing> nonreactive to Hep B? Anyway, do you think it looks like they are still> candidates for viral treatment? My DAN seems to think that naturals> don't work. I tried OLE in the beginning, but I couldn't get them to> take it (bad taste). Incidentally, my NT son's tests look almost> exactly the same. Do you think the homeopathics did enough, or does it> look I still need to address the viruses? Finally, I'd love to hear> more about people who are chelating at the same time as using Valtrex.> > Thanks for sticking it out to the end of this post, and thanks for your> help.> > Ruth>

[Guest guest]

It is IGG. I just relooked at the tests, though, and found one twin also has an IGG positive to HHV6. But, he wasn't positive 2 years ago. Would you use Valtrex on a child that isn't on the spectrum? Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: I'm not sure what type of test that is (IGG or IGM), but if you have high CMV titers (especially IGM) I would consider starting Valtrex, yes. And if you didn't and felt you had a viral kid, I still would do it. My son didn't test posative before, during, or after. Like with MB12, I think a short trial will tell you if it is going to help.- Stan>> > Stan and Others -> > I have 5 year old twins who are

both vaccine damaged (one PDD, one SID).> We have been doing biomedical for a little over 2 years (GFCF and> typical supps). We have been chelating for almost 10 months with great> results (TD-DMPS alone for 5 months, then TD-ALA along with it, for the> last 5 months). In the beginning, both boys did a handful of> homepathic remedies, many of which were geared to help the body clear> viruses from the vaccines (they had relatively high titers). Both boys> got rashes and had regressions for about a month. Then, about 18 months> ago, the doc introduced new ones, supposedly more effective, but with> the same goal. Again, we had about a month-long regression, but this> time no rash. Both times the boys came out of it much improved, but it> was very rocky during the regression. We took those for about a year> and

stopped (switched doctors).> > We have recently retested immune function, titers and viruses. I was> hoping you could take a look at these and see if you think my kids could> benefit from Valtrex. Here are the results:> > Twin #1 2> Years Ago Recent> > CD4

Absolute High 20.20> Not Tested IgG Total> 506 (Ref 592 - 1723) 655> Hep

B > Nonreactive Nonreactive>

Rubella > Immune 2.9 (>1.1> ref) Rubeola> 2.48 (>1.09

ref) 1.83> Polio > 1:32, 1:128, 1:128 (Ref 1:8) 1:8,1:128, 1:8> > Twin

#2 2> Years Ago Recent> > CD4 Absolute High

21.20> Not Tested IgG> 518 (Ref 592 - 1723 638> Hep B >

Nonreactive Nonreactive> Rubella >

Immune 2.19 (>1.1> ref) Rubeola> 2.59 (>1.1 ref) 1.45> Polio> 1:128, 1:128, 1:8 (ref 1:8) 1:32, 1:128, 1:8> > The boys tested negative to HHV6, Epstein Barr, and Herpes 1

and 2. > They tested positive to CMV, though. On the ones I can compare, it> looks like titers have improved. What do think about them showing> nonreactive to Hep B? Anyway, do you think it looks like they are still> candidates for viral treatment? My DAN seems to think that naturals> don't work. I tried OLE in the beginning, but I couldn't get them to> take it (bad taste). Incidentally, my NT son's tests look almost> exactly the same. Do you think the homeopathics did enough, or does it> look I still need to address the viruses? Finally, I'd love to hear> more about people who are chelating at the same time as using Valtrex.> > Thanks for sticking it out to the end of this post, and thanks for your> help.> > Ruth>

[Guest guest]

Valtrex was origionally made for people not on the spectrum... so yes, I would.

I don't

think GlaxosmithKline has any idea it is helping kids with autism... except that

I called

them with methylation oriented questions and no one is returning my phone

call... go

figure.

- Stan

> >

> >

> > Stan and Others -

> >

> > I have 5 year old twins who are both vaccine damaged (one PDD, one

> SID).

> > We have been doing biomedical for a little over 2 years (GFCF and

> > typical supps). We have been chelating for almost 10 months with

> great

> > results (TD-DMPS alone for 5 months, then TD-ALA along with it,

> for the

> > last 5 months). In the beginning, both boys did a handful of

> > homepathic remedies, many of which were geared to help the body

> clear

> > viruses from the vaccines (they had relatively high titers). Both

> boys

> > got rashes and had regressions for about a month. Then, about 18

> months

> > ago, the doc introduced new ones, supposedly more effective, but

> with

> > the same goal. Again, we had about a month-long regression, but

> this

> > time no rash. Both times the boys came out of it much improved,

> but it

> > was very rocky during the regression. We took those for about a

> year

> > and stopped (switched doctors).

> >

> > We have recently retested immune function, titers and viruses. I

> was

> > hoping you could take a look at these and see if you think my kids

> could

> > benefit from Valtrex. Here are the results:

> >

> > Twin #1

> 2

> > Years Ago Recent

> >

> > CD4 Absolute High

> 20.20

> > Not Tested IgG Total

> > 506 (Ref 592 - 1723) 655

> > Hep

> B

> > Nonreactive Nonreactive

> > Rubella

> > Immune 2.9

> (>1.1

> > ref) Rubeola

> > 2.48 (>1.09 ref) 1.83

> >

> Polio

>

> > 1:32, 1:128, 1:128 (Ref 1:8) 1:8,1:128, 1:8

> >

> > Twin #2

> 2

> > Years Ago Recent

> >

> > CD4 Absolute High

> 21.20

> > Not Tested IgG

> > 518 (Ref 592 - 1723 638

> > Hep

> B

> > Nonreactive Nonreactive

> >

> Rubella

> > Immune 2.19

> (>1.1

> > ref) Rubeola

> > 2.59 (>1.1 ref) 1.45

> > Polio

> > 1:128, 1:128, 1:8 (ref 1:8) 1:32, 1:128, 1:8

> >

> > The boys tested negative to HHV6, Epstein Barr, and Herpes 1 and

> 2.

> > They tested positive to CMV, though. On the ones I can compare, it

> > looks like titers have improved. What do think about them showing

> > nonreactive to Hep B? Anyway, do you think it looks like they are

> still

> > candidates for viral treatment? My DAN seems to think that

> naturals

> > don't work. I tried OLE in the beginning, but I couldn't get them

> to

> > take it (bad taste). Incidentally, my NT son's tests look almost

> > exactly the same. Do you think the homeopathics did enough, or

> does it

> > look I still need to address the viruses? Finally, I'd love to

> hear

> > more about people who are chelating at the same time as using

> Valtrex.

> >

> > Thanks for sticking it out to the end of this post, and thanks for

> your

> > help.

> >

> > Ruth

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Valtrex was origionally made for people not on the spectrum... so yes, I would.

I don't

think GlaxosmithKline has any idea it is helping kids with autism... except that

I called

them with methylation oriented questions and no one is returning my phone

call... go

figure.

- Stan

> >

> >

> > Stan and Others -

> >

> > I have 5 year old twins who are both vaccine damaged (one PDD, one

> SID).

> > We have been doing biomedical for a little over 2 years (GFCF and

> > typical supps). We have been chelating for almost 10 months with

> great

> > results (TD-DMPS alone for 5 months, then TD-ALA along with it,

> for the

> > last 5 months). In the beginning, both boys did a handful of

> > homepathic remedies, many of which were geared to help the body

> clear

> > viruses from the vaccines (they had relatively high titers). Both

> boys

> > got rashes and had regressions for about a month. Then, about 18

> months

> > ago, the doc introduced new ones, supposedly more effective, but

> with

> > the same goal. Again, we had about a month-long regression, but

> this

> > time no rash. Both times the boys came out of it much improved,

> but it

> > was very rocky during the regression. We took those for about a

> year

> > and stopped (switched doctors).

> >

> > We have recently retested immune function, titers and viruses. I

> was

> > hoping you could take a look at these and see if you think my kids

> could

> > benefit from Valtrex. Here are the results:

> >

> > Twin #1

> 2

> > Years Ago Recent

> >

> > CD4 Absolute High

> 20.20

> > Not Tested IgG Total

> > 506 (Ref 592 - 1723) 655

> > Hep

> B

> > Nonreactive Nonreactive

> > Rubella

> > Immune 2.9

> (>1.1

> > ref) Rubeola

> > 2.48 (>1.09 ref) 1.83

> >

> Polio

>

> > 1:32, 1:128, 1:128 (Ref 1:8) 1:8,1:128, 1:8

> >

> > Twin #2

> 2

> > Years Ago Recent

> >

> > CD4 Absolute High

> 21.20

> > Not Tested IgG

> > 518 (Ref 592 - 1723 638

> > Hep

> B

> > Nonreactive Nonreactive

> >

> Rubella

> > Immune 2.19

> (>1.1

> > ref) Rubeola

> > 2.59 (>1.1 ref) 1.45

> > Polio

> > 1:128, 1:128, 1:8 (ref 1:8) 1:32, 1:128, 1:8

> >

> > The boys tested negative to HHV6, Epstein Barr, and Herpes 1 and

> 2.

> > They tested positive to CMV, though. On the ones I can compare, it

> > looks like titers have improved. What do think about them showing

> > nonreactive to Hep B? Anyway, do you think it looks like they are

> still

> > candidates for viral treatment? My DAN seems to think that

> naturals

> > don't work. I tried OLE in the beginning, but I couldn't get them

> to

> > take it (bad taste). Incidentally, my NT son's tests look almost

> > exactly the same. Do you think the homeopathics did enough, or

> does it

> > look I still need to address the viruses? Finally, I'd love to

> hear

> > more about people who are chelating at the same time as using

> Valtrex.

> >

> > Thanks for sticking it out to the end of this post, and thanks for

> your

> > help.

> >

> > Ruth

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>