Re: Dr Amy Yasko and my experience with Valtrex (LONG)

May 1, 2006

Anita / all parents,

Thank you for your comments. I have read Andy's book, but really never paid attention to what he had to say about viruses. I will go back and revisit. I have also read all of Yasko's books, and done the Genetic test and I am waiting for her GAR. But I have a compelling story to tell about my son.

Like everyone said, this link between virus and autism is somewhat obscure. When I first heard about this group, I was in search for a reason why my son could not tolerate MB12 and never in my dreams did I think that treating viruses could be an answer to my prayers. I got very motivated by Stan's positive attitude and belief in Valtrex and talked to our DAN! who said that he had seen many of his other patients do well on it.

I was more convinced to try it though after I went to the DAN! Conference in DC and learned that they have found based on observation that Acyclovir lowers the adenosine levels, which lowers SAH levels, etc. And if you look at Yasko's representation of the methylation pathway and the 5 cycles that she believes are affected by environmental insults (heavy metals) as well as mutations, you will see that SAH can cause disruption in the BH4 cycle in addition to the methionine cycle (http://www.autismanswer.com/pathway_diagrams/diagram_7.pdf).

So I decided to try it out. Prior to that, I had started my son on Phosphatidylcholine and had seen a great deal of motor planning improvements. Ok, here is the great stuff for me. Today is his 22nd day of Valtrex and his language is almost conversational. Both yesterday and today, he has been using really long sentences to communicate with me and very appropriate language and he is now aware of his surroundings like never EVER before. Today, I went to pick him up at his daycare to take him to therapy and as we were leaving, he opened the door and said: "look mommy, it is daytime!". I said: "yes sweetie, it is daytime and we are going to play with Mr.. xyz". He got really excited. A truck was coming and he took my hand and said: "stop mommy. There is a car coming. You need to be careful". All this at once. I was really shocked. So I said: "okay then. you tell me when we can walk again". As the car passed us by, he said: "okay mommy. We can walk now. The car is gone". I don't know how high functioning some of your kids are, but my son had NEVER paid attention to cars passing by, had NEVER been so worried about me, had NEVER used so many words at once to communicate with me. He had no understanding of what danger was. The past week has been a honeymoon for us. Every day there is something new. As we were leaving, he noticed a horse and said in a very exciting voice: "look mommy, it's a horse!". I said: "wow sweetie, it is a horse. What is the horse doing?". And he responded: "he is eating mommy". As we were getting close the therapy place, he said: "look mommy, there it is, Mr.. xyz?". During the ride, he was pointing out the cars and the colors of the cars, and the trees and houses. See, this is really something so new to me, that I am not sure if you feel my excitement. As soon as we would get in the car, my son would start sucking his thumb and look towards nowhere.

We have been chelating him on TD-DMPS for 9 months. We had seen some improvements, but no "wows". The biggest wow I have experienced was the nasal B12 spray for 2 days (since he did really badly after day 4 and we had to stop) when he asked us a question for the first time EVER. He said: "Daddy, what are you doing" and then imitated his Dad. But after his regression, we had not seen that type of improvement until now. I have been keeping track of his fecal metal tests to see if he is pulling metals, and so far he was not pulling much of anything other than antimony. His OCD was driving us totally crazy. I started him on Valtrex on 4/10/06. I collected stools for testing on 4/14/06 and got the results this past Friday. His mercury went from almost 0 as of January to 0.057 (yellow). He is finally pulling mercury!!!!!!. I don't think it is a coincidence. What the DAN! Drs and Stan have been seeing is that some kids improve on Valtrex to the point that they start to pull metals faster (some kids like Stan don't even need chelators). BTW, my son has not had a single rash or regression on Valtrex which I expected. But he has improved in the passed 22 days more than he has in the past 9 months. His OCD has improve over 60%. I do believe though that is it not just the Valtrex, but a combination of Valtrex and Phosphatidylcholine along with the other supplements. But that combination has really helped my son.

Here is my theory on my son's case based on observation, tests and Yasko's genetic test results. He has 2 mutations on his MTRR gene (which affects the MSR enzyme). So I now know that his folate and methionine cycle are not working properly. So the path from homocysteine to methionine using B12 is malfunctioning. Supplementing MB12 (which would be ideal to compensate this problem) is not working well because the mutation is on the enzyme that recycles B12. That is why he has his "wows" during the first couple of days and then he regresses. Too much that his body cannot handle. So I now know that I need to give him MB12 but at lower doses. I am going to start that back this week. The other thing that Yasko recommends in this case is to supplement the pathway that goes from homocyteine to methionine via the BHMT enzyme until the other pathways are supplemented and working better. Not really knowing why it was helping some children, our DAN! told us to try Phosphatidylcholine back in February which is a perfect supplement for that route of the pathway. My son's DAN! is completely unaware of Yasko's work. I was giving my son DMG (which did nothing for him), but Yasko recommends low doses of TMG plus Phosphatidylcholine or phosphatidylserine to support that path. So that is why he was getting better on that supplement. In addition, when we added Valtrex, I believe that Valtrex's intervention on my son has been to lower his SAH rather than kill viruses. I do believe my son has viruses trapped in his body, do I believe they are RNA viruses though (like measles since that is what cause his autism's onset). I am going to run an Immunoscience Lab test on him to learn exactly what viruses I need to treat. But I know that Valtrex is really not affecting viruses right now since he has not had any rashes or reactions of any type. In addition, he has a mutation on his CBS enzyme, and she warns that once you start supplementing the methylation pathway, one needs to be careful because the ammonia level increases. Today, his urine had a very strong ammonia odor which I had never smelled before. So I am waiting to get her GAR to see what else she recommends so I can keep the ammonia levels low. I need to test him soon. But ultimately, my point is that he is definitely a methylation impaired child due to heavy metals toxicity and mutations more so than viruses.

I am very sorry for the long message. But I feel that if my current experience can help one person out there, I am happy to share. It is because you all are sharing that I have found all this stuff that is recovering my child.

Thanks for reading.

.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:55 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Dr Amy Yasko virus explanation

Okay, out of my depth here, but I shall try to explain my understanding of this. One of the reasons that I believe Andy Cutler's advice on a successful antiviral protocol, is that he points out that you should throw anything and everything you can at the viruses WITHOUT rotating them until the viruses are dealt with. One reason for that is you don't want to give the viruses a chance to build resistance by rotation. But another very important reason is that most of the antivirals work somewhat differently.Valtrex is meant to stop the replication of the herpes II virus. Hence, Dr. Yasko's explanation as to why the virus needs to become active in order for the Valtrex to work. If someone had the herpes virus and never had episodes of lesions, well, they wouldn't take Valtrex, because they might not even know that they have the virus, and, more importantly, the Valtrex is meant to stop the lesions, not eliminate the virus. This is how Valtrex works for adults without ASD. How exactly it is working in ASD kids is not as well understood. It would seem that there is more to it. For two of the antivirals I use for my son, the mechanism by which they work is different from Valtrex. For example, Lauricidin. This is from the website: "The antiviral action attributed to monolaurin is that of fluidizing the lipids and phospholipids in the envelope of the virus, causing the disintegration of the microbial membrane. More recent studies indicate that one antimicrobial effect in bacteria is related to monolaurin's interference with signal transduction/toxin formation (Projan et al 1994). Another antimicrobial effect in viruses is due to lauric acid's interference with virus assembly and viral maturation (Hornung et al 1994). The third mode of action may be on the immune system itself (Witcher et al, 1993). "It would seem that the one of the main ways that Lauricidin works on the HV is by "fluidizing" part of the viral envelope. It would seem that the virus needn't be active for this to happen. Lauricidin works on HV I and II, as well as others like CMV, HIV, etc. Virastop is a bit the same. It digests the protein envelope, making the virus vulnerable to immune defenses. Again, the virus needn't be active in order to be digested. posted some very helpful comments on all this about 3 weeks ago at enzymes and autism which would be very helpful for anyone trying to figure this stuff out and how it might apply to their child. Unfortunately, while I was typing this, the messages there were unavailable. If anyone is interested, let me know and I can find the message numbers later on and post them. I have NO signs of viral problems; that is, all of my viruses are dormant and always have been, except when I had chicken pox and mumps as a child. But my reaction to VS and OLE was quite a strong one. I plan on doing another, better planned viral protocol on myself, including Lauricidin this time. The fact that my viruses are dormant being little comfort to me. I want them inactivated, dead, whatever we want to call it.I don't think too many of our kids would be dealing with only ONE specific virus. It just seems unlikely given their compromised immune systems and the fact that viruses are everywhere. So, given that different antivirals work by different mechanisms on different viruses, a multipronged antiviral protocol would just make sense. There are many examples of ASD kids being put on Valtrex with no benefit. Now, those kids may not have viral issues, although it seems unlikely given that most doctors would Rx Valtrex for a good reason. What seems a more logical explanation to me is what Dr. Yasko presented, or that these kids viral problems were out of the domain of Valtrex (plus these kids may not have need the added benefit that some kids obviously do of having their adenosine levels lowered).One other thought. The immune systems in healthy kids may be much more powerful in some ways than adult immune systems. I am thinking of the children who were born HIV positive, but had immune systems strong enough to launch a successful assault on the virus so that eventually they were no longer HIV positive. Now, my son's immune system certainly isn't a healthy one, but it does give me great hope that if I support his immune system well enough with supplements, proper nutrition, healthy lifestyle, and removing the poisons from his system, then these viral problems won't always be problems--that is, with the help of a good viral protocol. This would likely be a factor in the wide range of responses we see in viral kids to antiviral protocols: the strength of their immune system. Maybe the kids with better immune systems might need fewer antivirals for a shorter period of time, and the opposite being true for kids with truly terrible immune systems. Just thinking aloud there.I'm not sure if that answers the question. Or any question, for that matter.Anita> > >> > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by> > > > Dr Yasko. My> > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms> > > > are present or> > > > the virus is latent?> > > >> > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:> > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two> > > > things: lower> > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed> > > > to be able to> > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an> > > > antiviral. Valtrex> > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions> > > > just mentioned.> > > >> > > > What do you guys think?> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > YASKO:> > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are> > > > all DNA> > > > viruses.> > > >> > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.> > > >> > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The> > > > information that> > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One> > > > way to think> > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the> > > > warehouse, and RNA> > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I> > > > use in talks,> > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA> > > > more slowly so you> > > > can really understand it better) is my "home depot"> > > > example. DNA is> > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of> > > > home depot. RNA is> > > > the building materials you need for a particular> > > > job, let's say to> > > > build your house, and then the completed project> > > > that you can see,> > > > the house itself, is the protein.> > > >> > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is> > > > stored as DNA. When> > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,> > > > it can multiply> > > > which is what we see as active infection or> > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be> > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our> > > > DNA in our cells.> > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.> > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the> > > > beads. Now insert> > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl> > > > necklace. Now rejoin> > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a> > > > group of red beads> > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just> > > > sit there until> > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back> > > > out, leaving the> > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now> > > > multiply and> > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA> > > > herpes that are> > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back> > > > into the pearl> > > > necklace of our DNA.> > > >> > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a> > > > latent form to an> > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to> > > > multiply it needs to> > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building> > > > blocks for DNA> > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand> > > > detail in the RNA> > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of> > > > these four> > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided> > > > by valtrex is> > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for> > > > linking the beads> > > > together to make more virus.> > > >> > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral> > > > replication. It does not> > > > suppress the virus.> > > >> > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be> > > > actively> > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is> > > > still stuck in the> > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the> > > > valtrex cannot act> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > __________________________________________________> > >

May 1, 2006

Anita / all parents,

Thank you for your comments. I have read Andy's book, but really never paid attention to what he had to say about viruses. I will go back and revisit. I have also read all of Yasko's books, and done the Genetic test and I am waiting for her GAR. But I have a compelling story to tell about my son.

Like everyone said, this link between virus and autism is somewhat obscure. When I first heard about this group, I was in search for a reason why my son could not tolerate MB12 and never in my dreams did I think that treating viruses could be an answer to my prayers. I got very motivated by Stan's positive attitude and belief in Valtrex and talked to our DAN! who said that he had seen many of his other patients do well on it.

I was more convinced to try it though after I went to the DAN! Conference in DC and learned that they have found based on observation that Acyclovir lowers the adenosine levels, which lowers SAH levels, etc. And if you look at Yasko's representation of the methylation pathway and the 5 cycles that she believes are affected by environmental insults (heavy metals) as well as mutations, you will see that SAH can cause disruption in the BH4 cycle in addition to the methionine cycle (http://www.autismanswer.com/pathway_diagrams/diagram_7.pdf).

So I decided to try it out. Prior to that, I had started my son on Phosphatidylcholine and had seen a great deal of motor planning improvements. Ok, here is the great stuff for me. Today is his 22nd day of Valtrex and his language is almost conversational. Both yesterday and today, he has been using really long sentences to communicate with me and very appropriate language and he is now aware of his surroundings like never EVER before. Today, I went to pick him up at his daycare to take him to therapy and as we were leaving, he opened the door and said: "look mommy, it is daytime!". I said: "yes sweetie, it is daytime and we are going to play with Mr.. xyz". He got really excited. A truck was coming and he took my hand and said: "stop mommy. There is a car coming. You need to be careful". All this at once. I was really shocked. So I said: "okay then. you tell me when we can walk again". As the car passed us by, he said: "okay mommy. We can walk now. The car is gone". I don't know how high functioning some of your kids are, but my son had NEVER paid attention to cars passing by, had NEVER been so worried about me, had NEVER used so many words at once to communicate with me. He had no understanding of what danger was. The past week has been a honeymoon for us. Every day there is something new. As we were leaving, he noticed a horse and said in a very exciting voice: "look mommy, it's a horse!". I said: "wow sweetie, it is a horse. What is the horse doing?". And he responded: "he is eating mommy". As we were getting close the therapy place, he said: "look mommy, there it is, Mr.. xyz?". During the ride, he was pointing out the cars and the colors of the cars, and the trees and houses. See, this is really something so new to me, that I am not sure if you feel my excitement. As soon as we would get in the car, my son would start sucking his thumb and look towards nowhere.

We have been chelating him on TD-DMPS for 9 months. We had seen some improvements, but no "wows". The biggest wow I have experienced was the nasal B12 spray for 2 days (since he did really badly after day 4 and we had to stop) when he asked us a question for the first time EVER. He said: "Daddy, what are you doing" and then imitated his Dad. But after his regression, we had not seen that type of improvement until now. I have been keeping track of his fecal metal tests to see if he is pulling metals, and so far he was not pulling much of anything other than antimony. His OCD was driving us totally crazy. I started him on Valtrex on 4/10/06. I collected stools for testing on 4/14/06 and got the results this past Friday. His mercury went from almost 0 as of January to 0.057 (yellow). He is finally pulling mercury!!!!!!. I don't think it is a coincidence. What the DAN! Drs and Stan have been seeing is that some kids improve on Valtrex to the point that they start to pull metals faster (some kids like Stan don't even need chelators). BTW, my son has not had a single rash or regression on Valtrex which I expected. But he has improved in the passed 22 days more than he has in the past 9 months. His OCD has improve over 60%. I do believe though that is it not just the Valtrex, but a combination of Valtrex and Phosphatidylcholine along with the other supplements. But that combination has really helped my son.

Here is my theory on my son's case based on observation, tests and Yasko's genetic test results. He has 2 mutations on his MTRR gene (which affects the MSR enzyme). So I now know that his folate and methionine cycle are not working properly. So the path from homocysteine to methionine using B12 is malfunctioning. Supplementing MB12 (which would be ideal to compensate this problem) is not working well because the mutation is on the enzyme that recycles B12. That is why he has his "wows" during the first couple of days and then he regresses. Too much that his body cannot handle. So I now know that I need to give him MB12 but at lower doses. I am going to start that back this week. The other thing that Yasko recommends in this case is to supplement the pathway that goes from homocyteine to methionine via the BHMT enzyme until the other pathways are supplemented and working better. Not really knowing why it was helping some children, our DAN! told us to try Phosphatidylcholine back in February which is a perfect supplement for that route of the pathway. My son's DAN! is completely unaware of Yasko's work. I was giving my son DMG (which did nothing for him), but Yasko recommends low doses of TMG plus Phosphatidylcholine or phosphatidylserine to support that path. So that is why he was getting better on that supplement. In addition, when we added Valtrex, I believe that Valtrex's intervention on my son has been to lower his SAH rather than kill viruses. I do believe my son has viruses trapped in his body, do I believe they are RNA viruses though (like measles since that is what cause his autism's onset). I am going to run an Immunoscience Lab test on him to learn exactly what viruses I need to treat. But I know that Valtrex is really not affecting viruses right now since he has not had any rashes or reactions of any type. In addition, he has a mutation on his CBS enzyme, and she warns that once you start supplementing the methylation pathway, one needs to be careful because the ammonia level increases. Today, his urine had a very strong ammonia odor which I had never smelled before. So I am waiting to get her GAR to see what else she recommends so I can keep the ammonia levels low. I need to test him soon. But ultimately, my point is that he is definitely a methylation impaired child due to heavy metals toxicity and mutations more so than viruses.

I am very sorry for the long message. But I feel that if my current experience can help one person out there, I am happy to share. It is because you all are sharing that I have found all this stuff that is recovering my child.

Thanks for reading.

.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:55 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Dr Amy Yasko virus explanation

Okay, out of my depth here, but I shall try to explain my understanding of this. One of the reasons that I believe Andy Cutler's advice on a successful antiviral protocol, is that he points out that you should throw anything and everything you can at the viruses WITHOUT rotating them until the viruses are dealt with. One reason for that is you don't want to give the viruses a chance to build resistance by rotation. But another very important reason is that most of the antivirals work somewhat differently.Valtrex is meant to stop the replication of the herpes II virus. Hence, Dr. Yasko's explanation as to why the virus needs to become active in order for the Valtrex to work. If someone had the herpes virus and never had episodes of lesions, well, they wouldn't take Valtrex, because they might not even know that they have the virus, and, more importantly, the Valtrex is meant to stop the lesions, not eliminate the virus. This is how Valtrex works for adults without ASD. How exactly it is working in ASD kids is not as well understood. It would seem that there is more to it. For two of the antivirals I use for my son, the mechanism by which they work is different from Valtrex. For example, Lauricidin. This is from the website: "The antiviral action attributed to monolaurin is that of fluidizing the lipids and phospholipids in the envelope of the virus, causing the disintegration of the microbial membrane. More recent studies indicate that one antimicrobial effect in bacteria is related to monolaurin's interference with signal transduction/toxin formation (Projan et al 1994). Another antimicrobial effect in viruses is due to lauric acid's interference with virus assembly and viral maturation (Hornung et al 1994). The third mode of action may be on the immune system itself (Witcher et al, 1993). "It would seem that the one of the main ways that Lauricidin works on the HV is by "fluidizing" part of the viral envelope. It would seem that the virus needn't be active for this to happen. Lauricidin works on HV I and II, as well as others like CMV, HIV, etc. Virastop is a bit the same. It digests the protein envelope, making the virus vulnerable to immune defenses. Again, the virus needn't be active in order to be digested. posted some very helpful comments on all this about 3 weeks ago at enzymes and autism which would be very helpful for anyone trying to figure this stuff out and how it might apply to their child. Unfortunately, while I was typing this, the messages there were unavailable. If anyone is interested, let me know and I can find the message numbers later on and post them. I have NO signs of viral problems; that is, all of my viruses are dormant and always have been, except when I had chicken pox and mumps as a child. But my reaction to VS and OLE was quite a strong one. I plan on doing another, better planned viral protocol on myself, including Lauricidin this time. The fact that my viruses are dormant being little comfort to me. I want them inactivated, dead, whatever we want to call it.I don't think too many of our kids would be dealing with only ONE specific virus. It just seems unlikely given their compromised immune systems and the fact that viruses are everywhere. So, given that different antivirals work by different mechanisms on different viruses, a multipronged antiviral protocol would just make sense. There are many examples of ASD kids being put on Valtrex with no benefit. Now, those kids may not have viral issues, although it seems unlikely given that most doctors would Rx Valtrex for a good reason. What seems a more logical explanation to me is what Dr. Yasko presented, or that these kids viral problems were out of the domain of Valtrex (plus these kids may not have need the added benefit that some kids obviously do of having their adenosine levels lowered).One other thought. The immune systems in healthy kids may be much more powerful in some ways than adult immune systems. I am thinking of the children who were born HIV positive, but had immune systems strong enough to launch a successful assault on the virus so that eventually they were no longer HIV positive. Now, my son's immune system certainly isn't a healthy one, but it does give me great hope that if I support his immune system well enough with supplements, proper nutrition, healthy lifestyle, and removing the poisons from his system, then these viral problems won't always be problems--that is, with the help of a good viral protocol. This would likely be a factor in the wide range of responses we see in viral kids to antiviral protocols: the strength of their immune system. Maybe the kids with better immune systems might need fewer antivirals for a shorter period of time, and the opposite being true for kids with truly terrible immune systems. Just thinking aloud there.I'm not sure if that answers the question. Or any question, for that matter.Anita> > >> > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by> > > > Dr Yasko. My> > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms> > > > are present or> > > > the virus is latent?> > > >> > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:> > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two> > > > things: lower> > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed> > > > to be able to> > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an> > > > antiviral. Valtrex> > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions> > > > just mentioned.> > > >> > > > What do you guys think?> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > YASKO:> > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are> > > > all DNA> > > > viruses.> > > >> > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.> > > >> > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The> > > > information that> > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One> > > > way to think> > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the> > > > warehouse, and RNA> > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I> > > > use in talks,> > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA> > > > more slowly so you> > > > can really understand it better) is my "home depot"> > > > example. DNA is> > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of> > > > home depot. RNA is> > > > the building materials you need for a particular> > > > job, let's say to> > > > build your house, and then the completed project> > > > that you can see,> > > > the house itself, is the protein.> > > >> > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is> > > > stored as DNA. When> > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,> > > > it can multiply> > > > which is what we see as active infection or> > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be> > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our> > > > DNA in our cells.> > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.> > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the> > > > beads. Now insert> > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl> > > > necklace. Now rejoin> > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a> > > > group of red beads> > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just> > > > sit there until> > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back> > > > out, leaving the> > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now> > > > multiply and> > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA> > > > herpes that are> > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back> > > > into the pearl> > > > necklace of our DNA.> > > >> > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a> > > > latent form to an> > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to> > > > multiply it needs to> > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building> > > > blocks for DNA> > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand> > > > detail in the RNA> > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of> > > > these four> > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided> > > > by valtrex is> > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for> > > > linking the beads> > > > together to make more virus.> > > >> > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral> > > > replication. It does not> > > > suppress the virus.> > > >> > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be> > > > actively> > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is> > > > still stuck in the> > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the> > > > valtrex cannot act> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > __________________________________________________> > >

May 1, 2006

,

This is VERY exciting news! Congratulations :-) You must be dizzy

with happiness.

Don't apologize for writing at length about this. I love reading

the details. I'm sure all parents do. In fact, I had already

decided to order a more potent variety of PC because of your earlier

posts :-) This post below is my kick in the butt to get it done

tonight.

About Andy's comments on viruses. These aren't in his books. When

I wrote the virus file he offered to look it over for me (a most

exciting and intimidating proposal from my perspective). So, when I

comment on Andy's thoughts on this, my comments are coming from that

file-writing process.

Congratulations again on all your hard work and now the wonderful

successes :-)

Anita

>

> Anita / all parents,

>

> Thank you for your comments. I have read Andy's book, but really

never paid

> attention to what he had to say about viruses. I will go back and

revisit.

> I have also read all of Yasko's books, and done the Genetic test

and I am

> waiting for her GAR. But I have a compelling story to tell about

my son.

>

> Like everyone said, this link between virus and autism is somewhat

obscure.

> When I first heard about this group, I was in search for a reason

why my son

> could not tolerate MB12 and never in my dreams did I think that

treating

> viruses could be an answer to my prayers. I got very motivated by

Stan's

> positive attitude and belief in Valtrex and talked to our DAN! who

said that

> he had seen many of his other patients do well on it.

>

> I was more convinced to try it though after I went to the DAN!

Conference in

> DC and learned that they have found based on observation that

Acyclovir

> lowers the adenosine levels, which lowers SAH levels, etc. And if

you look

> at Yasko's representation of the methylation pathway and the 5

cycles that

> she believes are affected by environmental insults (heavy metals)

as well as

> mutations, you will see that SAH can cause disruption in the BH4

cycle in

> addition to the methionine cycle

> (http://www.autismanswer.com/pathway_diagrams/diagram_7.pdf).

>

> So I decided to try it out. Prior to that, I had started my son on

> Phosphatidylcholine and had seen a great deal of motor planning

> improvements. Ok, here is the great stuff for me. Today is his

22nd day of

> Valtrex and his language is almost conversational. Both yesterday

and

> today, he has been using really long sentences to communicate with

me and

> very appropriate language and he is now aware of his surroundings

like never

> EVER before. Today, I went to pick him up at his daycare to take

him to

> therapy and as we were leaving, he opened the door and said: " look

mommy, it

> is daytime! " . I said: " yes sweetie, it is daytime and we are

going to play

> with Mr.. xyz " . He got really excited. A truck was coming and he

took my

> hand and said: " stop mommy. There is a car coming. You need to be

> careful " . All this at once. I was really shocked. So I

said: " okay then.

> you tell me when we can walk again " . As the car passed us by, he

said:

> " okay mommy. We can walk now. The car is gone " . I don't know

how high

> functioning some of your kids are, but my son had NEVER paid

attention to

> cars passing by, had NEVER been so worried about me, had NEVER

used so many

> words at once to communicate with me. He had no understanding of

what

> danger was. The past week has been a honeymoon for us. Every day

there is

> something new. As we were leaving, he noticed a horse and said in

a very

> exciting voice: " look mommy, it's a horse! " . I said: " wow

sweetie, it is a

> horse. What is the horse doing? " . And he responded: " he is

eating mommy " .

> As we were getting close the therapy place, he said: " look mommy,

there it

> is, Mr.. xyz? " . During the ride, he was pointing out the cars and

the

> colors of the cars, and the trees and houses. See, this is really

something

> so new to me, that I am not sure if you feel my excitement. As

soon as we

> would get in the car, my son would start sucking his thumb and

look towards

> nowhere.

>

> We have been chelating him on TD-DMPS for 9 months. We had seen

some

> improvements, but no " wows " . The biggest wow I have experienced

was the

> nasal B12 spray for 2 days (since he did really badly after day 4

and we had

> to stop) when he asked us a question for the first time EVER. He

said:

> " Daddy, what are you doing " and then imitated his Dad. But after

his

> regression, we had not seen that type of improvement until now. I

have been

> keeping track of his fecal metal tests to see if he is pulling

metals, and

> so far he was not pulling much of anything other than antimony.

His OCD was

> driving us totally crazy. I started him on Valtrex on 4/10/06. I

collected

> stools for testing on 4/14/06 and got the results this past

Friday. His

> mercury went from almost 0 as of January to 0.057 (yellow). He is

finally

> pulling mercury!!!!!!. I don't think it is a coincidence. What

the DAN!

> Drs and Stan have been seeing is that some kids improve on Valtrex

to the

> point that they start to pull metals faster (some kids like Stan

don't even

> need chelators). BTW, my son has not had a single rash or

regression on

> Valtrex which I expected. But he has improved in the passed 22

days more

> than he has in the past 9 months. His OCD has improve over 60%.

I do

> believe though that is it not just the Valtrex, but a combination

of Valtrex

> and Phosphatidylcholine along with the other supplements. But that

> combination has really helped my son.

>

> Here is my theory on my son's case based on observation, tests and

Yasko's

> genetic test results. He has 2 mutations on his MTRR gene (which

affects

> the MSR enzyme). So I now know that his folate and methionine

cycle are not

> working properly. So the path from homocysteine to methionine

using B12 is

> malfunctioning. Supplementing MB12 (which would be ideal to

compensate this

> problem) is not working well because the mutation is on the enzyme

that

> recycles B12. That is why he has his " wows " during the first

couple of days

> and then he regresses. Too much that his body cannot handle. So

I now know

> that I need to give him MB12 but at lower doses. I am going to

start that

> back this week. The other thing that Yasko recommends in this

case is to

> supplement the pathway that goes from homocyteine to methionine

via the BHMT

> enzyme until the other pathways are supplemented and working

better. Not

> really knowing why it was helping some children, our DAN! told us

to try

> Phosphatidylcholine back in February which is a perfect supplement

for that

> route of the pathway. My son's DAN! is completely unaware of

Yasko's work.

> I was giving my son DMG (which did nothing for him), but Yasko

recommends

> low doses of TMG plus Phosphatidylcholine or phosphatidylserine to

support

> that path. So that is why he was getting better on that

supplement. In

> addition, when we added Valtrex, I believe that Valtrex's

intervention on my

> son has been to lower his SAH rather than kill viruses. I do

believe my son

> has viruses trapped in his body, do I believe they are RNA viruses

though

> (like measles since that is what cause his autism's onset). I am

going to

> run an Immunoscience Lab test on him to learn exactly what viruses

I need to

> treat. But I know that Valtrex is really not affecting viruses

right now

> since he has not had any rashes or reactions of any type. In

addition, he

> has a mutation on his CBS enzyme, and she warns that once you start

> supplementing the methylation pathway, one needs to be careful

because the

> ammonia level increases. Today, his urine had a very strong

ammonia odor

> which I had never smelled before. So I am waiting to get her GAR

to see

> what else she recommends so I can keep the ammonia levels low. I

need to

> test him soon. But ultimately, my point is that he is definitely a

> methylation impaired child due to heavy metals toxicity and

mutations more

> so than viruses.

>

> I am very sorry for the long message. But I feel that if my

current

> experience can help one person out there, I am happy to share. It

is

> because you all are sharing that I have found all this stuff that

is

> recovering my child.

>

> Thanks for reading.

>

> .

>

May 1, 2006

,

This is VERY exciting news! Congratulations :-) You must be dizzy

with happiness.

Don't apologize for writing at length about this. I love reading

the details. I'm sure all parents do. In fact, I had already

decided to order a more potent variety of PC because of your earlier

posts :-) This post below is my kick in the butt to get it done

tonight.

About Andy's comments on viruses. These aren't in his books. When

I wrote the virus file he offered to look it over for me (a most

exciting and intimidating proposal from my perspective). So, when I

comment on Andy's thoughts on this, my comments are coming from that

file-writing process.

Congratulations again on all your hard work and now the wonderful

successes :-)

Anita

>

> Anita / all parents,

>

> Thank you for your comments. I have read Andy's book, but really

never paid

> attention to what he had to say about viruses. I will go back and

revisit.

> I have also read all of Yasko's books, and done the Genetic test

and I am

> waiting for her GAR. But I have a compelling story to tell about

my son.

>

> Like everyone said, this link between virus and autism is somewhat

obscure.

> When I first heard about this group, I was in search for a reason

why my son

> could not tolerate MB12 and never in my dreams did I think that

treating

> viruses could be an answer to my prayers. I got very motivated by

Stan's

> positive attitude and belief in Valtrex and talked to our DAN! who

said that

> he had seen many of his other patients do well on it.

>

> I was more convinced to try it though after I went to the DAN!

Conference in

> DC and learned that they have found based on observation that

Acyclovir

> lowers the adenosine levels, which lowers SAH levels, etc. And if

you look

> at Yasko's representation of the methylation pathway and the 5

cycles that

> she believes are affected by environmental insults (heavy metals)

as well as

> mutations, you will see that SAH can cause disruption in the BH4

cycle in

> addition to the methionine cycle

> (http://www.autismanswer.com/pathway_diagrams/diagram_7.pdf).

>

> So I decided to try it out. Prior to that, I had started my son on

> Phosphatidylcholine and had seen a great deal of motor planning

> improvements. Ok, here is the great stuff for me. Today is his

22nd day of

> Valtrex and his language is almost conversational. Both yesterday

and

> today, he has been using really long sentences to communicate with

me and

> very appropriate language and he is now aware of his surroundings

like never

> EVER before. Today, I went to pick him up at his daycare to take

him to

> therapy and as we were leaving, he opened the door and said: " look

mommy, it

> is daytime! " . I said: " yes sweetie, it is daytime and we are

going to play

> with Mr.. xyz " . He got really excited. A truck was coming and he

took my

> hand and said: " stop mommy. There is a car coming. You need to be

> careful " . All this at once. I was really shocked. So I

said: " okay then.

> you tell me when we can walk again " . As the car passed us by, he

said:

> " okay mommy. We can walk now. The car is gone " . I don't know

how high

> functioning some of your kids are, but my son had NEVER paid

attention to

> cars passing by, had NEVER been so worried about me, had NEVER

used so many

> words at once to communicate with me. He had no understanding of

what

> danger was. The past week has been a honeymoon for us. Every day

there is

> something new. As we were leaving, he noticed a horse and said in

a very

> exciting voice: " look mommy, it's a horse! " . I said: " wow

sweetie, it is a

> horse. What is the horse doing? " . And he responded: " he is

eating mommy " .

> As we were getting close the therapy place, he said: " look mommy,

there it

> is, Mr.. xyz? " . During the ride, he was pointing out the cars and

the

> colors of the cars, and the trees and houses. See, this is really

something

> so new to me, that I am not sure if you feel my excitement. As

soon as we

> would get in the car, my son would start sucking his thumb and

look towards

> nowhere.

>

> We have been chelating him on TD-DMPS for 9 months. We had seen

some

> improvements, but no " wows " . The biggest wow I have experienced

was the

> nasal B12 spray for 2 days (since he did really badly after day 4

and we had

> to stop) when he asked us a question for the first time EVER. He

said:

> " Daddy, what are you doing " and then imitated his Dad. But after

his

> regression, we had not seen that type of improvement until now. I

have been

> keeping track of his fecal metal tests to see if he is pulling

metals, and

> so far he was not pulling much of anything other than antimony.

His OCD was

> driving us totally crazy. I started him on Valtrex on 4/10/06. I

collected

> stools for testing on 4/14/06 and got the results this past

Friday. His

> mercury went from almost 0 as of January to 0.057 (yellow). He is

finally

> pulling mercury!!!!!!. I don't think it is a coincidence. What

the DAN!

> Drs and Stan have been seeing is that some kids improve on Valtrex

to the

> point that they start to pull metals faster (some kids like Stan

don't even

> need chelators). BTW, my son has not had a single rash or

regression on

> Valtrex which I expected. But he has improved in the passed 22

days more

> than he has in the past 9 months. His OCD has improve over 60%.

I do

> believe though that is it not just the Valtrex, but a combination

of Valtrex

> and Phosphatidylcholine along with the other supplements. But that

> combination has really helped my son.

>

> Here is my theory on my son's case based on observation, tests and

Yasko's

> genetic test results. He has 2 mutations on his MTRR gene (which

affects

> the MSR enzyme). So I now know that his folate and methionine

cycle are not

> working properly. So the path from homocysteine to methionine

using B12 is

> malfunctioning. Supplementing MB12 (which would be ideal to

compensate this

> problem) is not working well because the mutation is on the enzyme

that

> recycles B12. That is why he has his " wows " during the first

couple of days

> and then he regresses. Too much that his body cannot handle. So

I now know

> that I need to give him MB12 but at lower doses. I am going to

start that

> back this week. The other thing that Yasko recommends in this

case is to

> supplement the pathway that goes from homocyteine to methionine

via the BHMT

> enzyme until the other pathways are supplemented and working

better. Not

> really knowing why it was helping some children, our DAN! told us

to try

> Phosphatidylcholine back in February which is a perfect supplement

for that

> route of the pathway. My son's DAN! is completely unaware of

Yasko's work.

> I was giving my son DMG (which did nothing for him), but Yasko

recommends

> low doses of TMG plus Phosphatidylcholine or phosphatidylserine to

support

> that path. So that is why he was getting better on that

supplement. In

> addition, when we added Valtrex, I believe that Valtrex's

intervention on my

> son has been to lower his SAH rather than kill viruses. I do

believe my son

> has viruses trapped in his body, do I believe they are RNA viruses

though

> (like measles since that is what cause his autism's onset). I am

going to

> run an Immunoscience Lab test on him to learn exactly what viruses

I need to

> treat. But I know that Valtrex is really not affecting viruses

right now

> since he has not had any rashes or reactions of any type. In

addition, he

> has a mutation on his CBS enzyme, and she warns that once you start

> supplementing the methylation pathway, one needs to be careful

because the

> ammonia level increases. Today, his urine had a very strong

ammonia odor

> which I had never smelled before. So I am waiting to get her GAR

to see

> what else she recommends so I can keep the ammonia levels low. I

need to

> test him soon. But ultimately, my point is that he is definitely a

> methylation impaired child due to heavy metals toxicity and

mutations more

> so than viruses.

>

> I am very sorry for the long message. But I feel that if my

current

> experience can help one person out there, I am happy to share. It

is

> because you all are sharing that I have found all this stuff that

is

> recovering my child.

>

> Thanks for reading.

>

> .

>

May 2, 2006

So glad for you !!! And thanks for sharing.

Natasa

>

> >

> > Anita / all parents,

> >

> > Thank you for your comments. I have read Andy's book, but really

> never paid

> > attention to what he had to say about viruses. I will go back and

> revisit.

> > I have also read all of Yasko's books, and done the Genetic test

> and I am

> > waiting for her GAR. But I have a compelling story to tell about

> my son.

> >

> > Like everyone said, this link between virus and autism is somewhat

> obscure.

> > When I first heard about this group, I was in search for a reason

> why my son

> > could not tolerate MB12 and never in my dreams did I think that

> treating

> > viruses could be an answer to my prayers. I got very motivated by

> Stan's

> > positive attitude and belief in Valtrex and talked to our DAN! who

> said that

> > he had seen many of his other patients do well on it.

> >

> > I was more convinced to try it though after I went to the DAN!

> Conference in

> > DC and learned that they have found based on observation that

> Acyclovir

> > lowers the adenosine levels, which lowers SAH levels, etc. And if

> you look

> > at Yasko's representation of the methylation pathway and the 5

> cycles that

> > she believes are affected by environmental insults (heavy metals)

> as well as

> > mutations, you will see that SAH can cause disruption in the BH4

> cycle in

> > addition to the methionine cycle

> > (http://www.autismanswer.com/pathway_diagrams/diagram_7.pdf).

> >

> > So I decided to try it out. Prior to that, I had started my son on

> > Phosphatidylcholine and had seen a great deal of motor planning

> > improvements. Ok, here is the great stuff for me. Today is his

> 22nd day of

> > Valtrex and his language is almost conversational. Both yesterday

> and

> > today, he has been using really long sentences to communicate with

> me and

> > very appropriate language and he is now aware of his surroundings

> like never

> > EVER before. Today, I went to pick him up at his daycare to take

> him to

> > therapy and as we were leaving, he opened the door and said: " look

> mommy, it

> > is daytime! " . I said: " yes sweetie, it is daytime and we are

> going to play

> > with Mr.. xyz " . He got really excited. A truck was coming and he

> took my

> > hand and said: " stop mommy. There is a car coming. You need to be

> > careful " . All this at once. I was really shocked. So I

> said: " okay then.

> > you tell me when we can walk again " . As the car passed us by, he

> said:

> > " okay mommy. We can walk now. The car is gone " . I don't know

> how high

> > functioning some of your kids are, but my son had NEVER paid

> attention to

> > cars passing by, had NEVER been so worried about me, had NEVER

> used so many

> > words at once to communicate with me. He had no understanding of

> what

> > danger was. The past week has been a honeymoon for us. Every day

> there is

> > something new. As we were leaving, he noticed a horse and said in

> a very

> > exciting voice: " look mommy, it's a horse! " . I said: " wow

> sweetie, it is a

> > horse. What is the horse doing? " . And he responded: " he is

> eating mommy " .

> > As we were getting close the therapy place, he said: " look mommy,

> there it

> > is, Mr.. xyz? " . During the ride, he was pointing out the cars and

> the

> > colors of the cars, and the trees and houses. See, this is really

> something

> > so new to me, that I am not sure if you feel my excitement. As

> soon as we

> > would get in the car, my son would start sucking his thumb and

> look towards

> > nowhere.

> >

> > We have been chelating him on TD-DMPS for 9 months. We had seen

> some

> > improvements, but no " wows " . The biggest wow I have experienced

> was the

> > nasal B12 spray for 2 days (since he did really badly after day 4

> and we had

> > to stop) when he asked us a question for the first time EVER. He

> said:

> > " Daddy, what are you doing " and then imitated his Dad. But after

> his

> > regression, we had not seen that type of improvement until now. I

> have been

> > keeping track of his fecal metal tests to see if he is pulling

> metals, and

> > so far he was not pulling much of anything other than antimony.

> His OCD was

> > driving us totally crazy. I started him on Valtrex on 4/10/06. I

> collected

> > stools for testing on 4/14/06 and got the results this past

> Friday. His

> > mercury went from almost 0 as of January to 0.057 (yellow). He is

> finally

> > pulling mercury!!!!!!. I don't think it is a coincidence. What

> the DAN!

> > Drs and Stan have been seeing is that some kids improve on Valtrex

> to the

> > point that they start to pull metals faster (some kids like Stan

> don't even

> > need chelators). BTW, my son has not had a single rash or

> regression on

> > Valtrex which I expected. But he has improved in the passed 22

> days more

> > than he has in the past 9 months. His OCD has improve over 60%.

> I do

> > believe though that is it not just the Valtrex, but a combination

> of Valtrex

> > and Phosphatidylcholine along with the other supplements. But that

> > combination has really helped my son.

> >

> > Here is my theory on my son's case based on observation, tests and

> Yasko's

> > genetic test results. He has 2 mutations on his MTRR gene (which

> affects

> > the MSR enzyme). So I now know that his folate and methionine

> cycle are not

> > working properly. So the path from homocysteine to methionine

> using B12 is

> > malfunctioning. Supplementing MB12 (which would be ideal to

> compensate this

> > problem) is not working well because the mutation is on the enzyme

> that

> > recycles B12. That is why he has his " wows " during the first

> couple of days

> > and then he regresses. Too much that his body cannot handle. So

> I now know

> > that I need to give him MB12 but at lower doses. I am going to

> start that

> > back this week. The other thing that Yasko recommends in this

> case is to

> > supplement the pathway that goes from homocyteine to methionine

> via the BHMT

> > enzyme until the other pathways are supplemented and working

> better. Not

> > really knowing why it was helping some children, our DAN! told us

> to try

> > Phosphatidylcholine back in February which is a perfect supplement

> for that

> > route of the pathway. My son's DAN! is completely unaware of

> Yasko's work.

> > I was giving my son DMG (which did nothing for him), but Yasko

> recommends

> > low doses of TMG plus Phosphatidylcholine or phosphatidylserine to

> support

> > that path. So that is why he was getting better on that

> supplement. In

> > addition, when we added Valtrex, I believe that Valtrex's

> intervention on my

> > son has been to lower his SAH rather than kill viruses. I do

> believe my son

> > has viruses trapped in his body, do I believe they are RNA viruses

> though

> > (like measles since that is what cause his autism's onset). I am

> going to

> > run an Immunoscience Lab test on him to learn exactly what viruses

> I need to

> > treat. But I know that Valtrex is really not affecting viruses

> right now

> > since he has not had any rashes or reactions of any type. In

> addition, he

> > has a mutation on his CBS enzyme, and she warns that once you start

> > supplementing the methylation pathway, one needs to be careful

> because the

> > ammonia level increases. Today, his urine had a very strong

> ammonia odor

> > which I had never smelled before. So I am waiting to get her GAR

> to see

> > what else she recommends so I can keep the ammonia levels low. I

> need to

> > test him soon. But ultimately, my point is that he is definitely a

> > methylation impaired child due to heavy metals toxicity and

> mutations more

> > so than viruses.

> >

> > I am very sorry for the long message. But I feel that if my

> current

> > experience can help one person out there, I am happy to share. It

> is

> > because you all are sharing that I have found all this stuff that

> is

> > recovering my child.

> >

> > Thanks for reading.

> >

> > .

> >

>

May 2, 2006

So glad for you !!! And thanks for sharing.

Natasa

>

> >

> > Anita / all parents,

> >

> > Thank you for your comments. I have read Andy's book, but really

> never paid

> > attention to what he had to say about viruses. I will go back and

> revisit.

> > I have also read all of Yasko's books, and done the Genetic test

> and I am

> > waiting for her GAR. But I have a compelling story to tell about

> my son.

> >

> > Like everyone said, this link between virus and autism is somewhat

> obscure.

> > When I first heard about this group, I was in search for a reason

> why my son

> > could not tolerate MB12 and never in my dreams did I think that

> treating

> > viruses could be an answer to my prayers. I got very motivated by

> Stan's

> > positive attitude and belief in Valtrex and talked to our DAN! who

> said that

> > he had seen many of his other patients do well on it.

> >

> > I was more convinced to try it though after I went to the DAN!

> Conference in

> > DC and learned that they have found based on observation that

> Acyclovir

> > lowers the adenosine levels, which lowers SAH levels, etc. And if

> you look

> > at Yasko's representation of the methylation pathway and the 5

> cycles that

> > she believes are affected by environmental insults (heavy metals)

> as well as

> > mutations, you will see that SAH can cause disruption in the BH4

> cycle in

> > addition to the methionine cycle

> > (http://www.autismanswer.com/pathway_diagrams/diagram_7.pdf).

> >

> > So I decided to try it out. Prior to that, I had started my son on

> > Phosphatidylcholine and had seen a great deal of motor planning

> > improvements. Ok, here is the great stuff for me. Today is his

> 22nd day of

> > Valtrex and his language is almost conversational. Both yesterday

> and

> > today, he has been using really long sentences to communicate with

> me and

> > very appropriate language and he is now aware of his surroundings

> like never

> > EVER before. Today, I went to pick him up at his daycare to take

> him to

> > therapy and as we were leaving, he opened the door and said: " look

> mommy, it

> > is daytime! " . I said: " yes sweetie, it is daytime and we are

> going to play

> > with Mr.. xyz " . He got really excited. A truck was coming and he

> took my

> > hand and said: " stop mommy. There is a car coming. You need to be

> > careful " . All this at once. I was really shocked. So I

> said: " okay then.

> > you tell me when we can walk again " . As the car passed us by, he

> said:

> > " okay mommy. We can walk now. The car is gone " . I don't know

> how high

> > functioning some of your kids are, but my son had NEVER paid

> attention to

> > cars passing by, had NEVER been so worried about me, had NEVER

> used so many

> > words at once to communicate with me. He had no understanding of

> what

> > danger was. The past week has been a honeymoon for us. Every day

> there is

> > something new. As we were leaving, he noticed a horse and said in

> a very

> > exciting voice: " look mommy, it's a horse! " . I said: " wow

> sweetie, it is a

> > horse. What is the horse doing? " . And he responded: " he is

> eating mommy " .

> > As we were getting close the therapy place, he said: " look mommy,

> there it

> > is, Mr.. xyz? " . During the ride, he was pointing out the cars and

> the

> > colors of the cars, and the trees and houses. See, this is really

> something

> > so new to me, that I am not sure if you feel my excitement. As

> soon as we

> > would get in the car, my son would start sucking his thumb and

> look towards

> > nowhere.

> >

> > We have been chelating him on TD-DMPS for 9 months. We had seen

> some

> > improvements, but no " wows " . The biggest wow I have experienced

> was the

> > nasal B12 spray for 2 days (since he did really badly after day 4

> and we had

> > to stop) when he asked us a question for the first time EVER. He

> said:

> > " Daddy, what are you doing " and then imitated his Dad. But after

> his

> > regression, we had not seen that type of improvement until now. I

> have been

> > keeping track of his fecal metal tests to see if he is pulling

> metals, and

> > so far he was not pulling much of anything other than antimony.

> His OCD was

> > driving us totally crazy. I started him on Valtrex on 4/10/06. I

> collected

> > stools for testing on 4/14/06 and got the results this past

> Friday. His

> > mercury went from almost 0 as of January to 0.057 (yellow). He is

> finally

> > pulling mercury!!!!!!. I don't think it is a coincidence. What

> the DAN!

> > Drs and Stan have been seeing is that some kids improve on Valtrex

> to the

> > point that they start to pull metals faster (some kids like Stan

> don't even

> > need chelators). BTW, my son has not had a single rash or

> regression on

> > Valtrex which I expected. But he has improved in the passed 22

> days more

> > than he has in the past 9 months. His OCD has improve over 60%.

> I do

> > believe though that is it not just the Valtrex, but a combination

> of Valtrex

> > and Phosphatidylcholine along with the other supplements. But that

> > combination has really helped my son.

> >

> > Here is my theory on my son's case based on observation, tests and

> Yasko's

> > genetic test results. He has 2 mutations on his MTRR gene (which

> affects

> > the MSR enzyme). So I now know that his folate and methionine

> cycle are not

> > working properly. So the path from homocysteine to methionine

> using B12 is

> > malfunctioning. Supplementing MB12 (which would be ideal to

> compensate this

> > problem) is not working well because the mutation is on the enzyme

> that

> > recycles B12. That is why he has his " wows " during the first

> couple of days

> > and then he regresses. Too much that his body cannot handle. So

> I now know

> > that I need to give him MB12 but at lower doses. I am going to

> start that

> > back this week. The other thing that Yasko recommends in this

> case is to

> > supplement the pathway that goes from homocyteine to methionine

> via the BHMT

> > enzyme until the other pathways are supplemented and working

> better. Not

> > really knowing why it was helping some children, our DAN! told us

> to try

> > Phosphatidylcholine back in February which is a perfect supplement

> for that

> > route of the pathway. My son's DAN! is completely unaware of

> Yasko's work.

> > I was giving my son DMG (which did nothing for him), but Yasko

> recommends

> > low doses of TMG plus Phosphatidylcholine or phosphatidylserine to

> support

> > that path. So that is why he was getting better on that

> supplement. In

> > addition, when we added Valtrex, I believe that Valtrex's

> intervention on my

> > son has been to lower his SAH rather than kill viruses. I do

> believe my son

> > has viruses trapped in his body, do I believe they are RNA viruses

> though

> > (like measles since that is what cause his autism's onset). I am

> going to

> > run an Immunoscience Lab test on him to learn exactly what viruses

> I need to

> > treat. But I know that Valtrex is really not affecting viruses

> right now

> > since he has not had any rashes or reactions of any type. In

> addition, he

> > has a mutation on his CBS enzyme, and she warns that once you start

> > supplementing the methylation pathway, one needs to be careful

> because the

> > ammonia level increases. Today, his urine had a very strong

> ammonia odor

> > which I had never smelled before. So I am waiting to get her GAR

> to see

> > what else she recommends so I can keep the ammonia levels low. I

> need to

> > test him soon. But ultimately, my point is that he is definitely a

> > methylation impaired child due to heavy metals toxicity and

> mutations more

> > so than viruses.

> >

> > I am very sorry for the long message. But I feel that if my

> current

> > experience can help one person out there, I am happy to share. It

> is

> > because you all are sharing that I have found all this stuff that

> is

> > recovering my child.

> >

> > Thanks for reading.

> >

> > .

> >

>

May 2, 2006

,

Thanks so much for that post, it was so inspiring! Just like Anita said, it was like a kick in the butt for me to finally go and order the phosphytidylcholine. If I remember correctly, you give your son the liquid form? Can I ask how it tastes? Was it a hard supplement to get your son to take? My son is older and can swallow pills, but sometimes, I feel that liquid versions of supplements are better absorbed, so if it doesn't taste too bad, maybe I'll give the liquid a try. Can you remind me what dosage you give your son?

Thanks again,

Sheryl

RE: Re: Dr Amy Yasko and my experience with Valtrex (LONG)

Anita / all parents,

Thank you for your comments. I have read Andy's book, but really never paid attention to what he had to say about viruses. I will go back and revisit. I have also read all of Yasko's books, and done the Genetic test and I am waiting for her GAR. But I have a compelling story to tell about my son.

Like everyone said, this link between virus and autism is somewhat obscure. When I first heard about this group, I was in search for a reason why my son could not tolerate MB12 and never in my dreams did I think that treating viruses could be an answer to my prayers. I got very motivated by Stan's positive attitude and belief in Valtrex and talked to our DAN! who said that he had seen many of his other patients do well on it.

I was more convinced to try it though after I went to the DAN! Conference in DC and learned that they have found based on observation that Acyclovir lowers the adenosine levels, which lowers SAH levels, etc. And if you look at Yasko's representation of the methylation pathway and the 5 cycles that she believes are affected by environmental insults (heavy metals) as well as mutations, you will see that SAH can cause disruption in the BH4 cycle in addition to the methionine cycle (http://www.autismanswer.com/pathway_diagrams/diagram_7.pdf).

So I decided to try it out. Prior to that, I had started my son on Phosphatidylcholine and had seen a great deal of motor planning improvements. Ok, here is the great stuff for me. Today is his 22nd day of Valtrex and his language is almost conversational. Both yesterday and today, he has been using really long sentences to communicate with me and very appropriate language and he is now aware of his surroundings like never EVER before. Today, I went to pick him up at his daycare to take him to therapy and as we were leaving, he opened the door and said: "look mommy, it is daytime!". I said: "yes sweetie, it is daytime and we are going to play with Mr.. xyz". He got really excited. A truck was coming and he took my hand and said: "stop mommy. There is a car coming. You need to be careful". All this at once. I was really shocked. So I said: "okay then. you tell me when we can walk again". As the car passed us by, he said: "okay mommy. We can walk now. The car is gone". I don't know how high functioning some of your kids are, but my son had NEVER paid attention to cars passing by, had NEVER been so worried about me, had NEVER used so many words at once to communicate with me. He had no understanding of what danger was. The past week has been a honeymoon for us. Every day there is something new. As we were leaving, he noticed a horse and said in a very exciting voice: "look mommy, it's a horse!". I said: "wow sweetie, it is a horse. What is the horse doing?". And he responded: "he is eating mommy". As we were getting close the therapy place, he said: "look mommy, there it is, Mr.. xyz?". During the ride, he was pointing out the cars and the colors of the cars, and the trees and houses. See, this is really something so new to me, that I am not sure if you feel my excitement. As soon as we would get in the car, my son would start sucking his thumb and look towards nowhere.

We have been chelating him on TD-DMPS for 9 months. We had seen some improvements, but no "wows". The biggest wow I have experienced was the nasal B12 spray for 2 days (since he did really badly after day 4 and we had to stop) when he asked us a question for the first time EVER. He said: "Daddy, what are you doing" and then imitated his Dad. But after his regression, we had not seen that type of improvement until now. I have been keeping track of his fecal metal tests to see if he is pulling metals, and so far he was not pulling much of anything other than antimony. His OCD was driving us totally crazy. I started him on Valtrex on 4/10/06. I collected stools for testing on 4/14/06 and got the results this past Friday. His mercury went from almost 0 as of January to 0.057 (yellow). He is finally pulling mercury!!!!!!. I don't think it is a coincidence. What the DAN! Drs and Stan have been seeing is that some kids improve on Valtrex to the point that they start to pull metals faster (some kids like Stan don't even need chelators). BTW, my son has not had a single rash or regression on Valtrex which I expected. But he has improved in the passed 22 days more than he has in the past 9 months. His OCD has improve over 60%. I do believe though that is it not just the Valtrex, but a combination of Valtrex and Phosphatidylcholine along with the other supplements. But that combination has really helped my son.

Here is my theory on my son's case based on observation, tests and Yasko's genetic test results. He has 2 mutations on his MTRR gene (which affects the MSR enzyme). So I now know that his folate and methionine cycle are not working properly. So the path from homocysteine to methionine using B12 is malfunctioning. Supplementing MB12 (which would be ideal to compensate this problem) is not working well because the mutation is on the enzyme that recycles B12. That is why he has his "wows" during the first couple of days and then he regresses. Too much that his body cannot handle. So I now know that I need to give him MB12 but at lower doses. I am going to start that back this week. The other thing that Yasko recommends in this case is to supplement the pathway that goes from homocyteine to methionine via the BHMT enzyme until the other pathways are supplemented and working better. Not really knowing why it was helping some children, our DAN! told us to try Phosphatidylcholine back in February which is a perfect supplement for that route of the pathway. My son's DAN! is completely unaware of Yasko's work. I was giving my son DMG (which did nothing for him), but Yasko recommends low doses of TMG plus Phosphatidylcholine or phosphatidylserine to support that path. So that is why he was getting better on that supplement. In addition, when we added Valtrex, I believe that Valtrex's intervention on my son has been to lower his SAH rather than kill viruses. I do believe my son has viruses trapped in his body, do I believe they are RNA viruses though (like measles since that is what cause his autism's onset). I am going to run an Immunoscience Lab test on him to learn exactly what viruses I need to treat. But I know that Valtrex is really not affecting viruses right now since he has not had any rashes or reactions of any type. In addition, he has a mutation on his CBS enzyme, and she warns that once you start supplementing the methylation pathway, one needs to be careful because the ammonia level increases. Today, his urine had a very strong ammonia odor which I had never smelled before. So I am waiting to get her GAR to see what else she recommends so I can keep the ammonia levels low. I need to test him soon. But ultimately, my point is that he is definitely a methylation impaired child due to heavy metals toxicity and mutations more so than viruses.

I am very sorry for the long message. But I feel that if my current experience can help one person out there, I am happy to share. It is because you all are sharing that I have found all this stuff that is recovering my child.

Thanks for reading.

.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:55 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Dr Amy Yasko virus explanation

Okay, out of my depth here, but I shall try to explain my understanding of this. One of the reasons that I believe Andy Cutler's advice on a successful antiviral protocol, is that he points out that you should throw anything and everything you can at the viruses WITHOUT rotating them until the viruses are dealt with. One reason for that is you don't want to give the viruses a chance to build resistance by rotation. But another very important reason is that most of the antivirals work somewhat differently.Valtrex is meant to stop the replication of the herpes II virus. Hence, Dr. Yasko's explanation as to why the virus needs to become active in order for the Valtrex to work. If someone had the herpes virus and never had episodes of lesions, well, they wouldn't take Valtrex, because they might not even know that they have the virus, and, more importantly, the Valtrex is meant to stop the lesions, not eliminate the virus. This is how Valtrex works for adults without ASD. How exactly it is working in ASD kids is not as well understood. It would seem that there is more to it. For two of the antivirals I use for my son, the mechanism by which they work is different from Valtrex. For example, Lauricidin. This is from the website: "The antiviral action attributed to monolaurin is that of fluidizing the lipids and phospholipids in the envelope of the virus, causing the disintegration of the microbial membrane. More recent studies indicate that one antimicrobial effect in bacteria is related to monolaurin's interference with signal transduction/toxin formation (Projan et al 1994). Another antimicrobial effect in viruses is due to lauric acid's interference with virus assembly and viral maturation (Hornung et al 1994). The third mode of action may be on the immune system itself (Witcher et al, 1993). "It would seem that the one of the main ways that Lauricidin works on the HV is by "fluidizing" part of the viral envelope. It would seem that the virus needn't be active for this to happen. Lauricidin works on HV I and II, as well as others like CMV, HIV, etc. Virastop is a bit the same. It digests the protein envelope, making the virus vulnerable to immune defenses. Again, the virus needn't be active in order to be digested. posted some very helpful comments on all this about 3 weeks ago at enzymes and autism which would be very helpful for anyone trying to figure this stuff out and how it might apply to their child. Unfortunately, while I was typing this, the messages there were unavailable. If anyone is interested, let me know and I can find the message numbers later on and post them. I have NO signs of viral problems; that is, all of my viruses are dormant and always have been, except when I had chicken pox and mumps as a child. But my reaction to VS and OLE was quite a strong one. I plan on doing another, better planned viral protocol on myself, including Lauricidin this time. The fact that my viruses are dormant being little comfort to me. I want them inactivated, dead, whatever we want to call it.I don't think too many of our kids would be dealing with only ONE specific virus. It just seems unlikely given their compromised immune systems and the fact that viruses are everywhere. So, given that different antivirals work by different mechanisms on different viruses, a multipronged antiviral protocol would just make sense. There are many examples of ASD kids being put on Valtrex with no benefit. Now, those kids may not have viral issues, although it seems unlikely given that most doctors would Rx Valtrex for a good reason. What seems a more logical explanation to me is what Dr. Yasko presented, or that these kids viral problems were out of the domain of Valtrex (plus these kids may not have need the added benefit that some kids obviously do of having their adenosine levels lowered).One other thought. The immune systems in healthy kids may be much more powerful in some ways than adult immune systems. I am thinking of the children who were born HIV positive, but had immune systems strong enough to launch a successful assault on the virus so that eventually they were no longer HIV positive. Now, my son's immune system certainly isn't a healthy one, but it does give me great hope that if I support his immune system well enough with supplements, proper nutrition, healthy lifestyle, and removing the poisons from his system, then these viral problems won't always be problems--that is, with the help of a good viral protocol. This would likely be a factor in the wide range of responses we see in viral kids to antiviral protocols: the strength of their immune system. Maybe the kids with better immune systems might need fewer antivirals for a shorter period of time, and the opposite being true for kids with truly terrible immune systems. Just thinking aloud there.I'm not sure if that answers the question. Or any question, for that matter.Anita> > >> > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by> > > > Dr Yasko. My> > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms> > > > are present or> > > > the virus is latent?> > > >> > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:> > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two> > > > things: lower> > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed> > > > to be able to> > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an> > > > antiviral. Valtrex> > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions> > > > just mentioned.> > > >> > > > What do you guys think?> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > YASKO:> > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are> > > > all DNA> > > > viruses.> > > >> > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.> > > >> > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The> > > > information that> > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One> > > > way to think> > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the> > > > warehouse, and RNA> > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I> > > > use in talks,> > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA> > > > more slowly so you> > > > can really understand it better) is my "home depot"> > > > example. DNA is> > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of> > > > home depot. RNA is> > > > the building materials you need for a particular> > > > job, let's say to> > > > build your house, and then the completed project> > > > that you can see,> > > > the house itself, is the protein.> > > >> > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is> > > > stored as DNA. When> > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,> > > > it can multiply> > > > which is what we see as active infection or> > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be> > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our> > > > DNA in our cells.> > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.> > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the> > > > beads. Now insert> > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl> > > > necklace. Now rejoin> > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a> > > > group of red beads> > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just> > > > sit there until> > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back> > > > out, leaving the> > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now> > > > multiply and> > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA> > > > herpes that are> > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back> > > > into the pearl> > > > necklace of our DNA.> > > >> > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a> > > > latent form to an> > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to> > > > multiply it needs to> > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building> > > > blocks for DNA> > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand> > > > detail in the RNA> > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of> > > > these four> > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided> > > > by valtrex is> > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for> > > > linking the beads> > > > together to make more virus.> > > >> > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral> > > > replication. It does not> > > > suppress the virus.> > > >> > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be> > > > actively> > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is> > > > still stuck in the> > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the> > > > valtrex cannot act> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > __________________________________________________> > >

May 2, 2006

,

Thanks so much for that post, it was so inspiring! Just like Anita said, it was like a kick in the butt for me to finally go and order the phosphytidylcholine. If I remember correctly, you give your son the liquid form? Can I ask how it tastes? Was it a hard supplement to get your son to take? My son is older and can swallow pills, but sometimes, I feel that liquid versions of supplements are better absorbed, so if it doesn't taste too bad, maybe I'll give the liquid a try. Can you remind me what dosage you give your son?

Thanks again,

Sheryl

RE: Re: Dr Amy Yasko and my experience with Valtrex (LONG)

Anita / all parents,

Thank you for your comments. I have read Andy's book, but really never paid attention to what he had to say about viruses. I will go back and revisit. I have also read all of Yasko's books, and done the Genetic test and I am waiting for her GAR. But I have a compelling story to tell about my son.

Like everyone said, this link between virus and autism is somewhat obscure. When I first heard about this group, I was in search for a reason why my son could not tolerate MB12 and never in my dreams did I think that treating viruses could be an answer to my prayers. I got very motivated by Stan's positive attitude and belief in Valtrex and talked to our DAN! who said that he had seen many of his other patients do well on it.

I was more convinced to try it though after I went to the DAN! Conference in DC and learned that they have found based on observation that Acyclovir lowers the adenosine levels, which lowers SAH levels, etc. And if you look at Yasko's representation of the methylation pathway and the 5 cycles that she believes are affected by environmental insults (heavy metals) as well as mutations, you will see that SAH can cause disruption in the BH4 cycle in addition to the methionine cycle (http://www.autismanswer.com/pathway_diagrams/diagram_7.pdf).

So I decided to try it out. Prior to that, I had started my son on Phosphatidylcholine and had seen a great deal of motor planning improvements. Ok, here is the great stuff for me. Today is his 22nd day of Valtrex and his language is almost conversational. Both yesterday and today, he has been using really long sentences to communicate with me and very appropriate language and he is now aware of his surroundings like never EVER before. Today, I went to pick him up at his daycare to take him to therapy and as we were leaving, he opened the door and said: "look mommy, it is daytime!". I said: "yes sweetie, it is daytime and we are going to play with Mr.. xyz". He got really excited. A truck was coming and he took my hand and said: "stop mommy. There is a car coming. You need to be careful". All this at once. I was really shocked. So I said: "okay then. you tell me when we can walk again". As the car passed us by, he said: "okay mommy. We can walk now. The car is gone". I don't know how high functioning some of your kids are, but my son had NEVER paid attention to cars passing by, had NEVER been so worried about me, had NEVER used so many words at once to communicate with me. He had no understanding of what danger was. The past week has been a honeymoon for us. Every day there is something new. As we were leaving, he noticed a horse and said in a very exciting voice: "look mommy, it's a horse!". I said: "wow sweetie, it is a horse. What is the horse doing?". And he responded: "he is eating mommy". As we were getting close the therapy place, he said: "look mommy, there it is, Mr.. xyz?". During the ride, he was pointing out the cars and the colors of the cars, and the trees and houses. See, this is really something so new to me, that I am not sure if you feel my excitement. As soon as we would get in the car, my son would start sucking his thumb and look towards nowhere.

We have been chelating him on TD-DMPS for 9 months. We had seen some improvements, but no "wows". The biggest wow I have experienced was the nasal B12 spray for 2 days (since he did really badly after day 4 and we had to stop) when he asked us a question for the first time EVER. He said: "Daddy, what are you doing" and then imitated his Dad. But after his regression, we had not seen that type of improvement until now. I have been keeping track of his fecal metal tests to see if he is pulling metals, and so far he was not pulling much of anything other than antimony. His OCD was driving us totally crazy. I started him on Valtrex on 4/10/06. I collected stools for testing on 4/14/06 and got the results this past Friday. His mercury went from almost 0 as of January to 0.057 (yellow). He is finally pulling mercury!!!!!!. I don't think it is a coincidence. What the DAN! Drs and Stan have been seeing is that some kids improve on Valtrex to the point that they start to pull metals faster (some kids like Stan don't even need chelators). BTW, my son has not had a single rash or regression on Valtrex which I expected. But he has improved in the passed 22 days more than he has in the past 9 months. His OCD has improve over 60%. I do believe though that is it not just the Valtrex, but a combination of Valtrex and Phosphatidylcholine along with the other supplements. But that combination has really helped my son.

Here is my theory on my son's case based on observation, tests and Yasko's genetic test results. He has 2 mutations on his MTRR gene (which affects the MSR enzyme). So I now know that his folate and methionine cycle are not working properly. So the path from homocysteine to methionine using B12 is malfunctioning. Supplementing MB12 (which would be ideal to compensate this problem) is not working well because the mutation is on the enzyme that recycles B12. That is why he has his "wows" during the first couple of days and then he regresses. Too much that his body cannot handle. So I now know that I need to give him MB12 but at lower doses. I am going to start that back this week. The other thing that Yasko recommends in this case is to supplement the pathway that goes from homocyteine to methionine via the BHMT enzyme until the other pathways are supplemented and working better. Not really knowing why it was helping some children, our DAN! told us to try Phosphatidylcholine back in February which is a perfect supplement for that route of the pathway. My son's DAN! is completely unaware of Yasko's work. I was giving my son DMG (which did nothing for him), but Yasko recommends low doses of TMG plus Phosphatidylcholine or phosphatidylserine to support that path. So that is why he was getting better on that supplement. In addition, when we added Valtrex, I believe that Valtrex's intervention on my son has been to lower his SAH rather than kill viruses. I do believe my son has viruses trapped in his body, do I believe they are RNA viruses though (like measles since that is what cause his autism's onset). I am going to run an Immunoscience Lab test on him to learn exactly what viruses I need to treat. But I know that Valtrex is really not affecting viruses right now since he has not had any rashes or reactions of any type. In addition, he has a mutation on his CBS enzyme, and she warns that once you start supplementing the methylation pathway, one needs to be careful because the ammonia level increases. Today, his urine had a very strong ammonia odor which I had never smelled before. So I am waiting to get her GAR to see what else she recommends so I can keep the ammonia levels low. I need to test him soon. But ultimately, my point is that he is definitely a methylation impaired child due to heavy metals toxicity and mutations more so than viruses.

I am very sorry for the long message. But I feel that if my current experience can help one person out there, I am happy to share. It is because you all are sharing that I have found all this stuff that is recovering my child.

Thanks for reading.

.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:55 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Dr Amy Yasko virus explanation

Okay, out of my depth here, but I shall try to explain my understanding of this. One of the reasons that I believe Andy Cutler's advice on a successful antiviral protocol, is that he points out that you should throw anything and everything you can at the viruses WITHOUT rotating them until the viruses are dealt with. One reason for that is you don't want to give the viruses a chance to build resistance by rotation. But another very important reason is that most of the antivirals work somewhat differently.Valtrex is meant to stop the replication of the herpes II virus. Hence, Dr. Yasko's explanation as to why the virus needs to become active in order for the Valtrex to work. If someone had the herpes virus and never had episodes of lesions, well, they wouldn't take Valtrex, because they might not even know that they have the virus, and, more importantly, the Valtrex is meant to stop the lesions, not eliminate the virus. This is how Valtrex works for adults without ASD. How exactly it is working in ASD kids is not as well understood. It would seem that there is more to it. For two of the antivirals I use for my son, the mechanism by which they work is different from Valtrex. For example, Lauricidin. This is from the website: "The antiviral action attributed to monolaurin is that of fluidizing the lipids and phospholipids in the envelope of the virus, causing the disintegration of the microbial membrane. More recent studies indicate that one antimicrobial effect in bacteria is related to monolaurin's interference with signal transduction/toxin formation (Projan et al 1994). Another antimicrobial effect in viruses is due to lauric acid's interference with virus assembly and viral maturation (Hornung et al 1994). The third mode of action may be on the immune system itself (Witcher et al, 1993). "It would seem that the one of the main ways that Lauricidin works on the HV is by "fluidizing" part of the viral envelope. It would seem that the virus needn't be active for this to happen. Lauricidin works on HV I and II, as well as others like CMV, HIV, etc. Virastop is a bit the same. It digests the protein envelope, making the virus vulnerable to immune defenses. Again, the virus needn't be active in order to be digested. posted some very helpful comments on all this about 3 weeks ago at enzymes and autism which would be very helpful for anyone trying to figure this stuff out and how it might apply to their child. Unfortunately, while I was typing this, the messages there were unavailable. If anyone is interested, let me know and I can find the message numbers later on and post them. I have NO signs of viral problems; that is, all of my viruses are dormant and always have been, except when I had chicken pox and mumps as a child. But my reaction to VS and OLE was quite a strong one. I plan on doing another, better planned viral protocol on myself, including Lauricidin this time. The fact that my viruses are dormant being little comfort to me. I want them inactivated, dead, whatever we want to call it.I don't think too many of our kids would be dealing with only ONE specific virus. It just seems unlikely given their compromised immune systems and the fact that viruses are everywhere. So, given that different antivirals work by different mechanisms on different viruses, a multipronged antiviral protocol would just make sense. There are many examples of ASD kids being put on Valtrex with no benefit. Now, those kids may not have viral issues, although it seems unlikely given that most doctors would Rx Valtrex for a good reason. What seems a more logical explanation to me is what Dr. Yasko presented, or that these kids viral problems were out of the domain of Valtrex (plus these kids may not have need the added benefit that some kids obviously do of having their adenosine levels lowered).One other thought. The immune systems in healthy kids may be much more powerful in some ways than adult immune systems. I am thinking of the children who were born HIV positive, but had immune systems strong enough to launch a successful assault on the virus so that eventually they were no longer HIV positive. Now, my son's immune system certainly isn't a healthy one, but it does give me great hope that if I support his immune system well enough with supplements, proper nutrition, healthy lifestyle, and removing the poisons from his system, then these viral problems won't always be problems--that is, with the help of a good viral protocol. This would likely be a factor in the wide range of responses we see in viral kids to antiviral protocols: the strength of their immune system. Maybe the kids with better immune systems might need fewer antivirals for a shorter period of time, and the opposite being true for kids with truly terrible immune systems. Just thinking aloud there.I'm not sure if that answers the question. Or any question, for that matter.Anita> > >> > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by> > > > Dr Yasko. My> > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms> > > > are present or> > > > the virus is latent?> > > >> > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:> > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two> > > > things: lower> > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed> > > > to be able to> > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an> > > > antiviral. Valtrex> > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions> > > > just mentioned.> > > >> > > > What do you guys think?> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > YASKO:> > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are> > > > all DNA> > > > viruses.> > > >> > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.> > > >> > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The> > > > information that> > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One> > > > way to think> > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the> > > > warehouse, and RNA> > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I> > > > use in talks,> > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA> > > > more slowly so you> > > > can really understand it better) is my "home depot"> > > > example. DNA is> > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of> > > > home depot. RNA is> > > > the building materials you need for a particular> > > > job, let's say to> > > > build your house, and then the completed project> > > > that you can see,> > > > the house itself, is the protein.> > > >> > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is> > > > stored as DNA. When> > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,> > > > it can multiply> > > > which is what we see as active infection or> > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be> > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our> > > > DNA in our cells.> > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.> > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the> > > > beads. Now insert> > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl> > > > necklace. Now rejoin> > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a> > > > group of red beads> > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just> > > > sit there until> > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back> > > > out, leaving the> > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now> > > > multiply and> > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA> > > > herpes that are> > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back> > > > into the pearl> > > > necklace of our DNA.> > > >> > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a> > > > latent form to an> > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to> > > > multiply it needs to> > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building> > > > blocks for DNA> > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand> > > > detail in the RNA> > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of> > > > these four> > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided> > > > by valtrex is> > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for> > > > linking the beads> > > > together to make more virus.> > > >> > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral> > > > replication. It does not> > > > suppress the virus.> > > >> > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be> > > > actively> > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is> > > > still stuck in the> > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the> > > > valtrex cannot act> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > __________________________________________________> > >

May 2, 2006

Hi Sheryl,

My son is 4 and he does not know how to swallow pills, so I do give

him the liquid one. He, for some reason, likes it. I tasted it and

it is not very pleasant. But it is not terrible either. I use a

syringe and he takes it straight . I offer diluted apple juice

afterwards and he is happy.

My son is 50 lbs (big boy) and I give him 1 tsp at night.

Best of luck.

.

> > > >

> > > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by

> > > > > Dr Yasko. My

> > > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms

> > > > > are present or

> > > > > the virus is latent?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:

> > > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two

> > > > > things: lower

> > > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed

> > > > > to be able to

> > > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an

> > > > > antiviral. Valtrex

> > > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions

> > > > > just mentioned.

> > > > >

> > > > > What do you guys think?

> > > > >

> > > > > YASKO:

> > > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are

> > > > > all DNA

> > > > > viruses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The

> > > > > information that

> > > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One

> > > > > way to think

> > > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the

> > > > > warehouse, and RNA

> > > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I

> > > > > use in talks,

> > > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA

> > > > > more slowly so you

> > > > > can really understand it better) is my " home depot "

> > > > > example. DNA is

> > > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of

> > > > > home depot. RNA is

> > > > > the building materials you need for a particular

> > > > > job, let's say to

> > > > > build your house, and then the completed project

> > > > > that you can see,

> > > > > the house itself, is the protein.

> > > > >

> > > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is

> > > > > stored as DNA. When

> > > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,

> > > > > it can multiply

> > > > > which is what we see as active infection or

> > > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be

> > > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our

> > > > > DNA in our cells.

> > > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.

> > > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the

> > > > > beads. Now insert

> > > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl

> > > > > necklace. Now rejoin

> > > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a

> > > > > group of red beads

> > > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just

> > > > > sit there until

> > > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back

> > > > > out, leaving the

> > > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now

> > > > > multiply and

> > > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA

> > > > > herpes that are

> > > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back

> > > > > into the pearl

> > > > > necklace of our DNA.

> > > > >

> > > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a

> > > > > latent form to an

> > > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to

> > > > > multiply it needs to

> > > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building

> > > > > blocks for DNA

> > > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand

> > > > > detail in the RNA

> > > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of

> > > > > these four

> > > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided

> > > > > by valtrex is

> > > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for

> > > > > linking the beads

> > > > > together to make more virus.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral

> > > > > replication. It does not

> > > > > suppress the virus.

> > > > >

> > > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be

> > > > > actively

> > > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is

> > > > > still stuck in the

> > > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the

> > > > > valtrex cannot act

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

May 2, 2006

Hi Sheryl,

My son is 4 and he does not know how to swallow pills, so I do give

him the liquid one. He, for some reason, likes it. I tasted it and

it is not very pleasant. But it is not terrible either. I use a

syringe and he takes it straight . I offer diluted apple juice

afterwards and he is happy.

My son is 50 lbs (big boy) and I give him 1 tsp at night.

Best of luck.

.

> > > >

> > > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by

> > > > > Dr Yasko. My

> > > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms

> > > > > are present or

> > > > > the virus is latent?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:

> > > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two

> > > > > things: lower

> > > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed

> > > > > to be able to

> > > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an

> > > > > antiviral. Valtrex

> > > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions

> > > > > just mentioned.

> > > > >

> > > > > What do you guys think?

> > > > >

> > > > > YASKO:

> > > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are

> > > > > all DNA

> > > > > viruses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.

> > > > >

> > > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The

> > > > > information that

> > > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One

> > > > > way to think

> > > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the

> > > > > warehouse, and RNA

> > > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I

> > > > > use in talks,

> > > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA

> > > > > more slowly so you

> > > > > can really understand it better) is my " home depot "

> > > > > example. DNA is

> > > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of

> > > > > home depot. RNA is

> > > > > the building materials you need for a particular

> > > > > job, let's say to

> > > > > build your house, and then the completed project

> > > > > that you can see,

> > > > > the house itself, is the protein.

> > > > >

> > > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is

> > > > > stored as DNA. When

> > > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,

> > > > > it can multiply

> > > > > which is what we see as active infection or

> > > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be

> > > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our

> > > > > DNA in our cells.

> > > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.

> > > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the

> > > > > beads. Now insert

> > > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl

> > > > > necklace. Now rejoin

> > > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a

> > > > > group of red beads

> > > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just

> > > > > sit there until

> > > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back

> > > > > out, leaving the

> > > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now

> > > > > multiply and

> > > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA

> > > > > herpes that are

> > > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back

> > > > > into the pearl

> > > > > necklace of our DNA.

> > > > >

> > > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a

> > > > > latent form to an

> > > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to

> > > > > multiply it needs to

> > > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building

> > > > > blocks for DNA

> > > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand

> > > > > detail in the RNA

> > > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of

> > > > > these four

> > > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided

> > > > > by valtrex is

> > > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for

> > > > > linking the beads

> > > > > together to make more virus.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral

> > > > > replication. It does not

> > > > > suppress the virus.

> > > > >

> > > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be

> > > > > actively

> > > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is

> > > > > still stuck in the

> > > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the

> > > > > valtrex cannot act

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

May 2, 2006

Thanks ,

Would you happen to know how many mg of the PC is in one tsp?

Sheryl

Re: Dr Amy Yasko and my experience with Valtrex (LONG)

Hi Sheryl,My son is 4 and he does not know how to swallow pills, so I do givehim the liquid one. He, for some reason, likes it. I tasted it andit is not very pleasant. But it is not terrible either. I use asyringe and he takes it straight . I offer diluted apple juiceafterwards and he is happy.My son is 50 lbs (big boy) and I give him 1 tsp at night. Best of luck. .> > > >> > > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by> > > > > Dr Yasko. My> > > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms> > > > > are present or> > > > > the virus is latent?> > > > >> > > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:> > > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two> > > > > things: lower> > > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed> > > > > to be able to> > > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an> > > > > antiviral. Valtrex> > > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions> > > > > just mentioned.> > > > >> > > > > What do you guys think?> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > YASKO:> > > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are> > > > > all DNA> > > > > viruses.> > > > >> > > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.> > > > >> > > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The> > > > > information that> > > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One> > > > > way to think> > > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the> > > > > warehouse, and RNA> > > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I> > > > > use in talks,> > > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA> > > > > more slowly so you> > > > > can really understand it better) is my "home depot"> > > > > example. DNA is> > > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of> > > > > home depot. RNA is> > > > > the building materials you need for a particular> > > > > job, let's say to> > > > > build your house, and then the completed project> > > > > that you can see,> > > > > the house itself, is the protein.> > > > >> > > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is> > > > > stored as DNA. When> > > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,> > > > > it can multiply> > > > > which is what we see as active infection or> > > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be> > > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our> > > > > DNA in our cells.> > > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.> > > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the> > > > > beads. Now insert> > > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl> > > > > necklace. Now rejoin> > > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a> > > > > group of red beads> > > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just> > > > > sit there until> > > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back> > > > > out, leaving the> > > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now> > > > > multiply and> > > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA> > > > > herpes that are> > > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back> > > > > into the pearl> > > > > necklace of our DNA.> > > > >> > > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a> > > > > latent form to an> > > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to> > > > > multiply it needs to> > > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building> > > > > blocks for DNA> > > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand> > > > > detail in the RNA> > > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of> > > > > these four> > > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided> > > > > by valtrex is> > > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for> > > > > linking the beads> > > > > together to make more virus.> > > > >> > > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral> > > > > replication. It does not> > > > > suppress the virus.> > > > >> > > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be> > > > > actively> > > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is> > > > > still stuck in the> > > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the> > > > > valtrex cannot act> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > __________________________________________________> > > >

May 2, 2006

Thanks ,

Would you happen to know how many mg of the PC is in one tsp?

Sheryl

Re: Dr Amy Yasko and my experience with Valtrex (LONG)

Hi Sheryl,My son is 4 and he does not know how to swallow pills, so I do givehim the liquid one. He, for some reason, likes it. I tasted it andit is not very pleasant. But it is not terrible either. I use asyringe and he takes it straight . I offer diluted apple juiceafterwards and he is happy.My son is 50 lbs (big boy) and I give him 1 tsp at night. Best of luck. .> > > >> > > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by> > > > > Dr Yasko. My> > > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms> > > > > are present or> > > > > the virus is latent?> > > > >> > > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:> > > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two> > > > > things: lower> > > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed> > > > > to be able to> > > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an> > > > > antiviral. Valtrex> > > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions> > > > > just mentioned.> > > > >> > > > > What do you guys think?> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > YASKO:> > > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are> > > > > all DNA> > > > > viruses.> > > > >> > > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.> > > > >> > > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The> > > > > information that> > > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One> > > > > way to think> > > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the> > > > > warehouse, and RNA> > > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I> > > > > use in talks,> > > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA> > > > > more slowly so you> > > > > can really understand it better) is my "home depot"> > > > > example. DNA is> > > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of> > > > > home depot. RNA is> > > > > the building materials you need for a particular> > > > > job, let's say to> > > > > build your house, and then the completed project> > > > > that you can see,> > > > > the house itself, is the protein.> > > > >> > > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is> > > > > stored as DNA. When> > > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,> > > > > it can multiply> > > > > which is what we see as active infection or> > > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be> > > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our> > > > > DNA in our cells.> > > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.> > > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the> > > > > beads. Now insert> > > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl> > > > > necklace. Now rejoin> > > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a> > > > > group of red beads> > > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just> > > > > sit there until> > > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back> > > > > out, leaving the> > > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now> > > > > multiply and> > > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA> > > > > herpes that are> > > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back> > > > > into the pearl> > > > > necklace of our DNA.> > > > >> > > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a> > > > > latent form to an> > > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to> > > > > multiply it needs to> > > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building> > > > > blocks for DNA> > > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand> > > > > detail in the RNA> > > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of> > > > > these four> > > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided> > > > > by valtrex is> > > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for> > > > > linking the beads> > > > > together to make more virus.> > > > >> > > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral> > > > > replication. It does not> > > > > suppress the virus.> > > > >> > > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be> > > > > actively> > > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is> > > > > still stuck in the> > > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the> > > > > valtrex cannot act> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > __________________________________________________> > > >

May 2, 2006

Sheryl,

1 tsp contains 3000mg of PC and 7 IU of Vit E. http://www.xymogen.com/drr/DR-003-0605-03.pdf

.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of The Schwartz FamilySent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:25 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: Dr Amy Yasko and my experience with Valtrex (LONG)

Thanks ,

Would you happen to know how many mg of the PC is in one tsp?

Sheryl

Re: Dr Amy Yasko and my experience with Valtrex (LONG)

Hi Sheryl,My son is 4 and he does not know how to swallow pills, so I do givehim the liquid one. He, for some reason, likes it. I tasted it andit is not very pleasant. But it is not terrible either. I use asyringe and he takes it straight . I offer diluted apple juiceafterwards and he is happy.My son is 50 lbs (big boy) and I give him 1 tsp at night. Best of luck. .> > > >> > > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by> > > > > Dr Yasko. My> > > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms> > > > > are present or> > > > > the virus is latent?> > > > >> > > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:> > > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two> > > > > things: lower> > > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed> > > > > to be able to> > > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an> > > > > antiviral. Valtrex> > > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions> > > > > just mentioned.> > > > >> > > > > What do you guys think?> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > YASKO:> > > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are> > > > > all DNA> > > > > viruses.> > > > >> > > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.> > > > >> > > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The> > > > > information that> > > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One> > > > > way to think> > > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the> > > > > warehouse, and RNA> > > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I> > > > > use in talks,> > > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA> > > > > more slowly so you> > > > > can really understand it better) is my "home depot"> > > > > example. DNA is> > > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of> > > > > home depot. RNA is> > > > > the building materials you need for a particular> > > > > job, let's say to> > > > > build your house, and then the completed project> > > > > that you can see,> > > > > the house itself, is the protein.> > > > >> > > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is> > > > > stored as DNA. When> > > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,> > > > > it can multiply> > > > > which is what we see as active infection or> > > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be> > > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our> > > > > DNA in our cells.> > > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.> > > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the> > > > > beads. Now insert> > > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl> > > > > necklace. Now rejoin> > > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a> > > > > group of red beads> > > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just> > > > > sit there until> > > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back> > > > > out, leaving the> > > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now> > > > > multiply and> > > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA> > > > > herpes that are> > > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back> > > > > into the pearl> > > > > necklace of our DNA.> > > > >> > > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a> > > > > latent form to an> > > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to> > > > > multiply it needs to> > > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building> > > > > blocks for DNA> > > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand> > > > > detail in the RNA> > > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of> > > > > these four> > > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided> > > > > by valtrex is> > > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for> > > > > linking the beads> > > > > together to make more virus.> > > > >> > > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral> > > > > replication. It does not> > > > > suppress the virus.> > > > >> > > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be> > > > > actively> > > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is> > > > > still stuck in the> > > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the> > > > > valtrex cannot act> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > __________________________________________________> > > >

May 2, 2006

Sheryl,

1 tsp contains 3000mg of PC and 7 IU of Vit E. http://www.xymogen.com/drr/DR-003-0605-03.pdf

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-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of The Schwartz FamilySent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:25 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: Dr Amy Yasko and my experience with Valtrex (LONG)

Thanks ,

Would you happen to know how many mg of the PC is in one tsp?

Sheryl

Re: Dr Amy Yasko and my experience with Valtrex (LONG)

Hi Sheryl,My son is 4 and he does not know how to swallow pills, so I do givehim the liquid one. He, for some reason, likes it. I tasted it andit is not very pleasant. But it is not terrible either. I use asyringe and he takes it straight . I offer diluted apple juiceafterwards and he is happy.My son is 50 lbs (big boy) and I give him 1 tsp at night. Best of luck. .> > > >> > > > > This is a good explanation of how valtrex works by> > > > > Dr Yasko. My> > > > > question is how does it work if no outward symptoms> > > > > are present or> > > > > the virus is latent?> > > > >> > > > > Also here are some notes from the DAN conference:> > > > > They talked about Valtrex and its ability to do two> > > > > things: lower> > > > > the adenosine levels which in turn lowers SAH needed> > > > > to be able to> > > > > do proper DNA Methylation and also works as an> > > > > antiviral. Valtrex> > > > > crosses the BBB which is good for both functions> > > > > just mentioned.> > > > >> > > > > What do you guys think?> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > YASKO:> > > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are> > > > > all DNA> > > > > viruses.> > > > >> > > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.> > > > >> > > > > Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The> > > > > information that> > > > > is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One> > > > > way to think> > > > > about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the> > > > > warehouse, and RNA> > > > > is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I> > > > > use in talks,> > > > > and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA> > > > > more slowly so you> > > > > can really understand it better) is my "home depot"> > > > > example. DNA is> > > > > all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of> > > > > home depot. RNA is> > > > > the building materials you need for a particular> > > > > job, let's say to> > > > > build your house, and then the completed project> > > > > that you can see,> > > > > the house itself, is the protein.> > > > >> > > > > Our genetic material (all of our information) is> > > > > stored as DNA. When> > > > > we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes,> > > > > it can multiply> > > > > which is what we see as active infection or> > > > > outbreaks. Or, it can be> > > > > latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our> > > > > DNA in our cells.> > > > > If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace.> > > > > Then imagine cutting the string that holds the> > > > > beads. Now insert> > > > > some colored beads in the middle of your pearl> > > > > necklace. Now rejoin> > > > > the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a> > > > > group of red beads> > > > > in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just> > > > > sit there until> > > > > conditions are such that the red beads can pop back> > > > > out, leaving the> > > > > pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now> > > > > multiply and> > > > > cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA> > > > > herpes that are> > > > > now active can create symptoms, some can pop back> > > > > into the pearl> > > > > necklace of our DNA.> > > > >> > > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a> > > > > latent form to an> > > > > active form it needs to multiply. In order to> > > > > multiply it needs to> > > > > make more of its own DNA. There are four building> > > > > blocks for DNA> > > > > (again explained in much more easy to understand> > > > > detail in the RNA> > > > > book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of> > > > > these four> > > > > building blocks for DNA. The building block provided> > > > > by valtrex is> > > > > altered so that it interferes with the process for> > > > > linking the beads> > > > > together to make more virus.> > > > >> > > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral> > > > > replication. It does not> > > > > suppress the virus.> > > > >> > > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be> > > > > actively> > > > > replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is> > > > > still stuck in the> > > > > form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the> > > > > valtrex cannot act> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > __________________________________________________> > > >

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