Guest guest Posted March 16, 2000 Report Share Posted March 16, 2000 Dear List, When we went to the Carbone conference, we had VERY limited echoics that were perhaps 70-80% consistent, and were done in the more traditional verbal imitation drill format. I am talking about sounds and not word echoics. As we made some changes, grappling with how to make this work, we have had some successes. In fact, it is the one area, I think I can safely say, we have made probably the strongest gain, although still nothing terribly dramatic compared to what some people have reported. Given where we've been and Isaac's history, I am still pleased. We do not know how to do this that well, have limited staff and experience, and we're all trying to figure out what we work on and how often and how to maintain some stability, program quality and progress in several areas that pertain to my son's IEP. Anyhow, I think we have around ten to twelve echoics now, and it does vary, some days, we're pretty close to 100% and other days closer to the 70%, rarely less, if you count both sessions we actively address this. These are some sounds, but generally words or approximations that we all recognize and agree stand in for a word, On-Ah (long O) for Donut, (This week he was able to use it as a mand while at Dunkin Donut's over a dozen times, and a few of those without any prompting, just pure manding.) O-Da or O-ah for Soda at Mc's, and IES for fries at Mc's, and he even said, FIES twice when his therapist made him wait longer than he wanted. :-) So, they are starting to become mands with some encouragement and practice, but are still not strong mands, but are pretty strong echoics now. He is also saying, a few others immediately when asked to echo, and a couple have become words versus approximations. I would like some more suggestions on how people do this, how often and any tricks you all might have to get sounds, etc. Isaac had apraxic issues, etc., and some sounds just are not in his repetoire at all or very rare. Jennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2000 Report Share Posted March 16, 2000 Jennie, Just out of curiosity...have you tried DMG or TMG from Kirkman Labs? My son's articulation with the mands was much like yours. Some words were clear, but most were partial sounds. Three days after taking TMG, Lance was echoing & manding more clearly. I'm excited to see if the improvement continues. Cheryl > Dear List, > When we went to the Carbone conference, we had VERY limited echoics that > were perhaps 70-80% consistent, and were done in the more traditional > verbal imitation drill format. I am talking about sounds and not word > echoics. As we made some changes, grappling with how to make this work, we > have had some successes. > In fact, it is the one area, I think I can safely say, we have made > probably the strongest gain, although still nothing terribly dramatic > compared to what some people have reported. Given where we've been and > Isaac's history, I am still pleased. > We do not know how to do this that well, have limited staff and experience, > and we're all trying to figure out what we work on and how often and how to > maintain some stability, program quality and progress in several areas that > pertain to my son's IEP. > Anyhow, I think we have around ten to twelve echoics now, and it does vary, > some days, we're pretty close to 100% and other days closer to the 70%, > rarely less, if you count both sessions we actively address this. These are > some sounds, but generally words or approximations that we all recognize > and agree stand in for a word, On-Ah (long O) > for Donut, (This week he was able to use it as a mand while at Dunkin > Donut's over a dozen times, and a few of those without any prompting, just > pure manding.) O-Da or O-ah for Soda at Mc's, and IES for fries at > Mc's, and he even said, FIES twice when his therapist made him wait > longer than he wanted. :-) So, they are starting to become mands with some > encouragement and practice, but are still not strong mands, but are pretty > strong echoics now. He is also saying, a few others immediately when asked > to echo, and a couple have become words versus approximations. I would like > some more suggestions on how people do this, how often and any tricks you > all might have to get sounds, etc. Isaac had apraxic issues, etc., and some > sounds just are not in his repetoire at all or very rare. > > Jennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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