Re:work related issues

[Guest guest]

I am hoping someone may have some ideas on one of my issues. I am in sales and have been a top performer for almost 5 years. When things became very difficult with my son and I was spending alot of time in therapy sessions and working with the school, I began to work more flexible hours so that I could put him on the bus and be there when he got home. I was still working and had 30% growth in my sales. However, I have gone from being the star to the employee who is not committed and is a slacker. I am afraid that I am going to be let go. Would I have any recourse if I am let go?

Thanks for any ideas.

LJ

[Guest guest]

Hi Lj,

I would check your state employment laws.We live in a right to work state(not good)

also did you sign some kind of employment contract?I did mortgages for a bit,my boss let me work out of my home alot of the time.I still had problems once I had to remove my older child from school.

Good luck,and I am sorry you have this anxiety on top of the rest

Theresa

Re:work related issues

I am hoping someone may have some ideas on one of my issues. I am in sales and have been a top performer for almost 5 years. When things became very difficult with my son and I was spending alot of time in therapy sessions and working with the school, I began to work more flexible hours so that I could put him on the bus and be there when he got home. I was still working and had 30% growth in my sales. However, I have gone from being the star to the employee who is not committed and is a slacker. I am afraid that I am going to be let go. Would I have any recourse if I am let go?

Thanks for any ideas.

LJ

[Guest guest]

Lacey, Are you in the US? If you are and have been at

your job for more than 12 months you can apply for

FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) with your sons issues

as the cause. I learned the hard way that I should

have done so. That way they have to allow extra time

for your dr visits and illness/issue days and cannot

" officially " hold it against you. Most companies will

still not like it and may look for other " reasons " to

terminate employment but if so, it gives you a basis

for at the least, unemployment and at the most a

lawsuit and settlement or your job back. I lost the

best job I will probably ever have because of my

daughter and dr appts and having to deal with

meltdowns etc. I took the unemployment settlement for

a year rather than my job back because I was afraid of

the work environment if they were " forced " to take me

back. Now I wish I had done it. I have been struggling

to find a good job again and make it through a year so

I can apply for FMLA if it is still necessary (my

daughter is getting better with age). Our standard of

living has gone from a house, two new cars, upper

middle class basically to with a divorce and job loss,

to $25,000 per year for a family of 4. It has been an

adjustment but we get by and all that matters to me is

we have the basics and my kids have the best

opportunity to succeed that their individual

personalities and talents allow. Definitely check

in to FMLA. Your HR department will have the paperwork

or check with a trusted dr. It is not just for

yourself, you can use it for any immediate family

member whos care you are responsible for.

Here is the link to the Department of Labor website

with exact requirements and info. Good luck! DeeDee

http://www.dol.gov/compliance/laws/comp-fmla.htm

--- laclaylew@... wrote:

> I am hoping someone may have some ideas on one of my

> issues. I am in sales

> and have been a top performer for almost 5 years.

> When things became very

> difficult with my son and I was spending alot of

> time in therapy sessions and

> working with the school, I began to work more

> flexible hours so that I could

> put him on the bus and be there when he got home. I

> was still working and had

> 30% growth in my sales. However, I have gone from

> being the star to the

> employee who is not committed and is a slacker. I am

> afraid that I am going to be

> let go. Would I have any recourse if I am let go?

>

> Thanks for any ideas.

>

> LJ

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hello Theresa!

I went through the exact same thing. I,

too , was in sales, and did what you are doing. (I have two autistic children,

7, and , 4) I did get fired, and I did sign a non-compete, but you

know what, I took my clients home, and made it work. Is it a type sales where

you could do that? It worked for us for a while, now I’m doing something

totally different very part time from home, and we are getting SSI. I was a

recruiter…What state are you in and what’s your line of sales?

Those things make a difference…

Beth

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of puresleep1@...

Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006

4:16 AM

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Re:work related issues

Hi Lj,

I would check your state employment

laws.We live in a right to work state(not good)

also did you sign some kind of employment

contract?I did mortgages for a bit,my boss let me work out of my home alot of

the time.I still had problems once I had to remove my older child from school.

Good luck,and I am sorry you have this

anxiety on top of the rest

Theresa

Re:work related issues

I am hoping someone may

have some ideas on one of my issues. I am in sales and have been a top

performer for almost 5 years. When things became very difficult with my son and

I was spending alot of time in therapy sessions and working with the school, I began

to work more flexible hours so that I could put him on the bus and be

there when he got home. I was still working and had 30% growth in my sales.

However, I have gone from being the star to the employee who is not committed

and is a slacker. I am afraid that I am going to be let go. Would I have any

recourse if I am let go?

Thanks for any ideas.

LJ

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

I was just replying to LJ's post as I went thru the same thing.I am currently not working as I had to remove 1 child from a bad placement and am advocating for services for 2,this is unfortunatly ,a full time non paying position..I have sold timeshares,electronics,and cars.My last job was mortgage origination.I liked it,but the realtors could be very catty & nasty

theresa

Re:work related issues

I am hoping someone may have some ideas on one of my issues. I am in sales and have been a top performer for almost 5 years. When things became very difficult with my son and I was spending alot of time in therapy sessions and working with the school, I began to work more flexible hours so that I could put him on the bus and be there when he got home. I was still working and had 30% growth in my sales. However, I have gone from being the star to the employee who is not committed and is a slacker. I am afraid that I am going to be let go. Would I have any recourse if I am let go?

Thanks for any ideas.

LJ

[Guest guest]

Theresa, Realtors catty and nasty????? Are there any other kind???LOL.... kidding!!!!! in Lancaster, Capuresleep1@... wrote: Hi Beth, I was just replying to LJ's post as I went thru the same thing.I am currently not working as I had to remove 1 child from a bad placement and am advocating for services for 2,this is unfortunatly ,a full time non paying position..I have sold timeshares,electronics,and cars.My last job was mortgage origination.I liked it,but the realtors could be very catty & nasty theresa Re:work related issues I am hoping someone may have some ideas on one of my issues. I am in sales and have been a top performer for almost 5 years. When things became very difficult with my son and I was spending alot of time in therapy sessions and working with

the school, I began to work more flexible hours so that I could put him on the bus and be there when he got home. I was still working and had 30% growth in my sales. However, I have gone from being the star to the employee who is not committed and is a slacker. I am afraid that I am going to be let go. Would I have any recourse if I am let go? Thanks for any ideas. LJ

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[Guest guest]

Just make sure your employer has more than 50 employees or you may not be eligible for FMLA. Also if you are a "key" employee such as a manager or something of that nature they may not have to offer you your job back. Some small businesses may be jerks about it, so heads up.

(2) ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEE.--

(A) IN GENERAL.--The term "eligible employee" means an employee who has been employed

(i) for at least 12 months by the employer with respect to whom leave is requested under section 102; and (ii) for at least 1,250 hours of service with such employer during the previous 12-month period.

( EXCLUSIONS.--The term "eligible employee" does not include

(i) any Federal officer or employee covered under subchapter V of chapter 63 of title 5, United States Code (as added by title II of this Act); or (ii) any employee of an employer who is employed at a worksite at which such employer employs less than 50 employees if the total number of employees employed by that employer within 75 miles of that worksite is less than 50.

Just studied this topic in and Employment Law class (great class for working parents of Aspies!). It's tricky territory that's for sure. Feel free to email if you want to discuss **not a lawyer yet, so can't advise anyone**

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Lacey, Are you in the US? If you are and have been atyour job for more than 12 months you can apply forFMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) with your sons issuesas the cause. I learned the hard way that I shouldhave done so. That way they have to allow extra timefor your dr visits and illness/issue days and cannot"officially" hold it against you. Most companies willstill not like it and may look for other "reasons" toterminate employment but if so, it gives you a basisfor at the least, unemployment and at the most alawsuit and settlement or your job back. I lost thebest job I will probably ever have because of mydaughter and dr appts and having to deal withmeltdowns etc. I took the unemployment settlement fora year rather than my job back because I was afraid ofthe work environment if they were "forced" to take meback. Now I wish I had done it. I have been strugglingto find a good job again and make it through a year soI can apply for FMLA if it is still necessary (mydaughter is getting better with age). Our standard ofliving has gone from a house, two new cars, uppermiddle class basically to with a divorce and job loss,to $25,000 per year for a family of 4. It has been anadjustment but we get by and all that matters to me iswe have the basics and my kids have the bestopportunity to succeed that their individualpersonalities and talents allow. Definitely checkin to FMLA. Your HR department will have the paperworkor check with a trusted dr. It is not just foryourself, you can use it for any immediate familymember whos care you are responsible for. Here is the link to the Department of Labor websitewith exact requirements and info. Good luck! DeeDeehttp://www.dol.gov/compliance/laws/comp-fmla.htm--- laclaylew@... wrote:> I am hoping someone may have some ideas on one of my> issues. I am in sales > and have been a top performer for almost 5 years.> When things became very > difficult with my son and I was spending alot of> time in therapy sessions and > working with the school, I began to work more> flexible hours so that I could > put him on the bus and be there when he got home. I> was still working and had > 30% growth in my sales. However, I have gone from> being the star to the > employee who is not committed and is a slacker. I am> afraid that I am going to be > let go. Would I have any recourse if I am let go?> > Thanks for any ideas.> > LJ> __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

,Exactly...o.k.the new ones were nice,until their more seasoned co workers change that by stealing their leads.Sales of any type is not for the timid.It can be so fufilling though.I loved helping young couples get their first house.It was great to get paid for doing a good thing.

I am hoping to go to some intense advocacy training,and then I can really do a good thing.My LEA is a big bully that intimidates and punishes the parents via their children.I would love to legally clean their clock.

Theresa

Re:work related issues

I am hoping someone may have some ideas on one of my issues. I am in sales and have been a top performer for almost 5 years. When things became very difficult with my son and I was spending alot of time in therapy sessions and working with the school, I began to work more flexible hours so that I could put him on the bus and be there when he got home. I was still working and had 30% growth in my sales. However, I have gone from being the star to the employee who is not committed and is a slacker. I am afraid that I am going to be let go. Would I have any recourse if I am let go?

Thanks for any ideas.

LJ

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[Guest guest]

Ah, I should pay better attention! It

seems we all find ourselves in this boat! I made really good money, but was

still just not able to do it all!

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of puresleep1@...

Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006

1:08 PM

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Re:work related issues

Hi Beth,

I was just replying to LJ's post as I went thru the same

thing.I am currently not working as I had to remove 1 child from a bad

placement and am advocating for services for 2,this is unfortunatly ,a full

time non paying position..I have sold timeshares,electronics,and cars.My last

job was mortgage origination.I liked it,but the realtors could be very catty

& nasty

theresa

Re:work related issues

I am hoping someone may

have some ideas on one of my issues. I am in sales and have been a top

performer for almost 5 years. When things became very difficult with my son and

I was spending alot of time in therapy sessions and working with the school, I

began to work more flexible hours so that I could put him on the bus and

be there when he got home. I was still working and had 30% growth in my sales.

However, I have gone from being the star to the employee who is not committed

and is a slacker. I am afraid that I am going to be let go. Would I have any

recourse if I am let go?

Thanks for any ideas.

LJ

[Guest guest]

Yes,we are all in this boat eventually because everything seems to be an uphill fight,the school,the insurance,our family,and even sometimes our church community.We should all band together and march on Washington!

Theresa

Re:work related issues

I am hoping someone may have some ideas on one of my issues. I am in sales and have been a top performer for almost 5 years. When things became very difficult with my son and I was spending alot of time in therapy sessions and working with the school, I began to work more flexible hours so that I could put him on the bus and be there when he got home. I was still working and had 30% growth in my sales. However, I have gone from being the star to the employee who is not committed and is a slacker. I am afraid that I am going to be let go. Would I have any recourse if I am let go?

Thanks for any ideas.

LJ

[Guest guest]

puresleep1@... wrote:

Yes,we are all in this boat

eventually because everything seems to be an uphill fight,the

school,the insurance,our family,and even sometimes our church

community.We should all band together and march on Washington!

Theresa

That is the reason Im so glad to have found and joined a list like

this. For so many years I have felt isolated and alone, frustrated and

yes angry. I feel that if our children "looked" diffrent that we

wouild get more than what we do. Sometimes I find myself telling my

husband, look could be worse off, and that is the truth. For that

Im so very greatfull. When people see my son they think no problmes,

but it's what they dont see on the inside that causes the pain. My son

is ADHD, ODD, Aspergers, and possible touretts,(becauses of the noises,

outbusrts and movement)

Thank you's all for being here for me and many others like me out

there. My only regreat is that I wished I would have found you's

sooner. You guys just being there for me to talk to, cry to, vent

to,get resurrence and advice means the world to me.

Aletha

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Ron and Aletha Moody

Happy Tailz Farm

Nigerian Dwarf Dairy Goats

Mayville MI

1-989-843-6678

www.happytailzfarm.com

happytailzfarm@...

"Put a little happiness in your barn!"

[Guest guest]

>

> I am in Georgia.

If I know of anyone wanting to move to Georgia or buy a second home

there, I will refer them to you.

Trish

[Guest guest]

You are so right that it is nice to have people who understand. When I just had the "big" career it was all so easy to balance. Then you have kids and it is not at all what you expect, and of course with my personalitity I had to give 150% to finding therapies, doctors, ways to help my child. I was so heartbroken at 6 when he became so depressed and suicidal and needed to be with him more. I thought my owner was a person who believed in the the rule of family before work, but he really did not mean it. I tried the tactic of "sharing" what was going on with my co workeers but then I just became a self centered, over dramatic whiner.

Now I have learned I say nothing about family at work and just do my job.

Thanks for all the support and advice!

lj

[Guest guest]

Re: Re:work related issues

I feel that if our

children " looked " diffrent that we wouild get more than what we

do. Sometimes I find myself telling my husband, look could be worse

off, and that is the truth. For that Im so very greatfull. When people see my

son they think no problmes, but it's what they dont see on the inside that

causes the pain.

**************Hi

Althena, I agree. My son is 13, Asperger’s, OCD, Tourettes, and is doing

remarkably well considering what he has to contend with everyday of his life. Because

of the way he looks, and his intelligence, people have no idea how hard he has

to work each day.

www.happytailzfarm.com

**********Enjoyed your goats! I really

like some of the miniature breeds. Take care…Gail

[Guest guest]

you hit the nail on the head. we ahd a terrible time

getting an aspergers diagnosis because of the " autism "

lable. the school said that is a terrible label to

place on a child until you know for sure thats what it

is. i can get services if he has a " label. " so

frustrating.

--- Gail Africa <lilies@...> wrote:

> Re: Re:work related

> issues

> I feel that if our children " looked " diffrent that

> we wouild get more

> than what we do. Sometimes I find myself telling my

> husband, look

> could be worse off, and that is the truth. For that

> Im so very

> greatfull. When people see my son they think no

> problmes, but it's what

> they dont see on the inside that causes the pain.

> **************Hi Althena, I agree. My son is 13,

> Asperger's, OCD,

> Tourettes, and is doing remarkably well considering

> what he has to

> contend with everyday of his life. Because of the

> way he looks, and his

> intelligence, people have no idea how hard he has to

> work each day.

>

> www.happytailzfarm.com

> **********Enjoyed your goats! I really like some of

> the miniature

> breeds. Take care.Gail

>

>

> _____

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Aletha,

Nope, we don't want our kids to look different. My son has a lot of problems, I mean a LOT, but at least he is handsome, and for that I am grateful. I thought of this the other day when we were at Shopko, and a little old guy got out of the car right beside us with his parents, and you could tell he was quite disabled, not with Downs Syndrome but something else I don't know what. Anyway he was a little guy, and looked very disabled.

I was not picking on the kid, but just said, "Well at least Marty is handsome." Didn't mean anything bad by it, was just trying to be funny really, use humor a LOT, maybe too much. Hope I did not offend anybody with this stupid talk. But really I am thankful for this.

Anyway, on another subject, I notice where you raise dwarf goats, and I was just reading on the front page of our local paper where a mother goat had FIVE babies. Let me go and get it, Yep, at Mystic Acres' Goat Farm five Nigerian dwarf goats were born.

You might want to check it out, our paper is The Register Guard, Eugene, Oregon. The article is "Quintet now playing..." cute picture of the owner holding the five little goats. It's really cute.

Carolyn in Oregon

Re: Re:work related issues

puresleep1@... wrote:

Yes,we are all in this boat eventually because everything seems to be an uphill fight,the school,the insurance,our family,and even sometimes our church community.We should all band together and march on Washington!

Theresa That is the reason Im so glad to have found and joined a list like this. For so many years I have felt isolated and alone, frustrated and yes angry. I feel that if our children "looked" diffrent that we wouild get more than what we do. Sometimes I find myself telling my husband, look could be worse off, and that is the truth. For that Im so very greatfull. When people see my son they think no problmes, but it's what they dont see on the inside that causes the pain. My son is ADHD, ODD, Aspergers, and possible touretts,(becauses of the noises, outbusrts and movement)Thank you's all for being here for me and many others like me out there. My only regreat is that I wished I would have found you's sooner. You guys just being there for me to talk to, cry to, vent to,get resurrence and advice means the world to me.Aletha

-- Ron and Aletha MoodyHappy Tailz FarmNigerian Dwarf Dairy Goats Mayville MI1-989-843-6678 www.happytailzfarm.comhappytailzfarm@..."Put a little happiness in your barn!"

[Guest guest]

Hi Aletha,

Nope, we don't want our kids to look different. My son has a lot of problems, I mean a LOT, but at least he is handsome, and for that I am grateful. I thought of this the other day when we were at Shopko, and a little old guy got out of the car right beside us with his parents, and you could tell he was quite disabled, not with Downs Syndrome but something else I don't know what. Anyway he was a little guy, and looked very disabled.

I was not picking on the kid, but just said, "Well at least Marty is handsome." Didn't mean anything bad by it, was just trying to be funny really, use humor a LOT, maybe too much. Hope I did not offend anybody with this stupid talk. But really I am thankful for this.

Anyway, on another subject, I notice where you raise dwarf goats, and I was just reading on the front page of our local paper where a mother goat had FIVE babies. Let me go and get it, Yep, at Mystic Acres' Goat Farm five Nigerian dwarf goats were born.

You might want to check it out, our paper is The Register Guard, Eugene, Oregon. The article is "Quintet now playing..." cute picture of the owner holding the five little goats. It's really cute.

Carolyn in Oregon

Re: Re:work related issues

puresleep1@... wrote:

Yes,we are all in this boat eventually because everything seems to be an uphill fight,the school,the insurance,our family,and even sometimes our church community.We should all band together and march on Washington!

Theresa That is the reason Im so glad to have found and joined a list like this. For so many years I have felt isolated and alone, frustrated and yes angry. I feel that if our children "looked" diffrent that we wouild get more than what we do. Sometimes I find myself telling my husband, look could be worse off, and that is the truth. For that Im so very greatfull. When people see my son they think no problmes, but it's what they dont see on the inside that causes the pain. My son is ADHD, ODD, Aspergers, and possible touretts,(becauses of the noises, outbusrts and movement)Thank you's all for being here for me and many others like me out there. My only regreat is that I wished I would have found you's sooner. You guys just being there for me to talk to, cry to, vent to,get resurrence and advice means the world to me.Aletha

-- Ron and Aletha MoodyHappy Tailz FarmNigerian Dwarf Dairy Goats Mayville MI1-989-843-6678 www.happytailzfarm.comhappytailzfarm@..."Put a little happiness in your barn!"

[Guest guest]

Thank you! That would be great!

Re:work related issues

>> I am in Georgia.If I know of anyone wanting to move to Georgia or buy a second home there, I will refer them to you.Trish

[Guest guest]

Carolyn wrote:

Nope, we don't want our kids

to look different.

Hi Carolyn

No, I think you misunderstood my email, no Im greatfull that my son is

handsome and doesnt have any other issues. What Im saying is that

people in general dont treat our children like they are special

needs,especially with high functioning, I get looks like well look at

that child misbehaving, why doesnt that mother make him stop, or I have

had one teacher tell me that all he needed was a firmer hand that he

was just acting out to get attention, I feel that if they looked like

say they had downs, btw, my stepson who is a year younger than my son

10, does have downs and is mentally challanged, he is treated

diffrently because he looks diffrent, that is all that I meant

My son has a lot of problems, I

mean a LOT, but at least he is handsome, and for that I am grateful. I

thought of this the other day when we were at Shopko, and a little old

guy got out of the car right beside us with his parents, and you could

tell he was quite disabled, not with Downs Syndrome but something else

I don't know what. Anyway he was a little guy, and looked very

disabled.

I was not picking on the kid,

but just said, "Well at least Marty is handsome." Didn't mean anything

bad by it, was just trying to be funny really, use humor a LOT, maybe

too much. Hope I did not offend anybody with this stupid talk. But

really I am thankful for this.

I kinda use this to, I dont think you were picking on that child, I

think you were what is the word that Im looking for, trying to say to

yourself, hey this isnt as bad as it could be, I have found myself

saying that when we go to the neurologist, I have seen children say 1-2

years old not even being able to sit or hold up their heads by

themselvs, and I say even to my husband, you know could be worse.

I think we are just being greatfull and reminding outselves that while

we may have it hard with our special children it could be alot harder.

I hope I didnt say anything to offend anyone and i hope that i was able

to get my thoughts across

Anyway, on another subject, I

notice where you raise dwarf goats, and I was just reading on the front

page of our local paper where a mother goat had FIVE babies. Let me go

and get it, Yep, at Mystic Acres' Goat Farm five Nigerian dwarf goats

were born.

Oh I love my nigerian goats!! They make wonderful pets.

thanks I'll look for that article

Aletha

You might want to check it

out, our paper is The Register Guard, Eugene, Oregon. The article is

"Quintet now playing..." cute picture of the owner holding the five

little goats. It's really cute.

Carolyn in Oregon

--

signature line

Ron and Aletha Moody

Happy Tailz Farm

Nigerian Dwarf Dairy Goats

Mayville MI

1-989-843-6678

www.happytailzfarm.com

happytailzfarm@...

"Put a little happiness in your barn!"

[Guest guest]

Exactly....the majority of the population seems to need a visual handicap to even begin to understand and accept a child who is different. If someone appears "normal" most people expect them them to act "normal". It's almost like another obstecle for our children in a twisted sort of wayAletha Moody <Happytailzfarm@...> wrote: Carolyn wrote: Nope, we don't want our kids to look different.Hi CarolynNo, I think you misunderstood my email, no Im greatfull that my son is handsome and doesnt have any other issues. What Im saying is that people in general dont treat our children like they are special

needs,especially with high functioning, I get looks like well look at that child misbehaving, why doesnt that mother make him stop, or I have had one teacher tell me that all he needed was a firmer hand that he was just acting out to get attention, I feel that if they looked like say they had downs, btw, my stepson who is a year younger than my son 10, does have downs and is mentally challanged, he is treated diffrently because he looks diffrent, that is all that I meant My son has a lot of problems, I mean a LOT, but at least he is handsome, and for that I am grateful. I thought of this the other day when we were at Shopko, and a little old guy got out of the car right beside us with his parents, and you could tell he was quite disabled, not with Downs Syndrome but something else I don't know what. Anyway he was a little guy, and looked very disabled.

I was not picking on the kid, but just said, "Well at least Marty is handsome." Didn't mean anything bad by it, was just trying to be funny really, use humor a LOT, maybe too much. Hope I did not offend anybody with this stupid talk. But really I am thankful for this.I kinda use this to, I dont think you were picking on that child, I think you were what is the word that Im looking for, trying to say to yourself, hey this isnt as bad as it could be, I have found myself saying that when we go to the neurologist, I have seen children say 1-2 years old not even being able to sit or hold up their heads by themselvs, and I say even to my husband, you know could be worse. I think we are just being greatfull and reminding outselves that while we may have it hard with our special children it could be alot harder. I hope I didnt say anything to offend anyone and i hope

that i was able to get my thoughts across Anyway, on another subject, I notice where you raise dwarf goats, and I was just reading on the front page of our local paper where a mother goat had FIVE babies. Let me go and get it, Yep, at Mystic Acres' Goat Farm five Nigerian dwarf goats were born.Oh I love my nigerian goats!! They make wonderful pets. thanks I'll look for that articleAletha You might want to check it out, our paper is The Register Guard, Eugene, Oregon. The article is "Quintet now playing..." cute picture of the owner holding the five little goats. It's really cute. Carolyn in Oregon -- Ron and Aletha MoodyHappy Tailz FarmNigerian Dwarf Dairy Goats Mayville MI1-989-843-6678 www.happytailzfarm.comhappytailzfarm@..."Put a little happiness in your barn!"

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wrote:

Exactly....the majority of the population seems to need a visual

handicap to even begin to understand and accept a child who is

different. If someone appears "normal" most people expect them them to

act "normal".

It's almost like another obstecle for our children in a twisted

sort of way

That is exactly what I wanted to say.

Have a great day

Aletha

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