Re: Hep C Drinkers - New Rant Today

October 17, 2006

In a message dated 10/17/2006 12:22:12 PM Central Daylight Time, knoxweb1@... writes:

Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair.

humm tofu..havent tried that one yet..ahh just a question,, not everyone that tests + for Hep C will actually go on to have cronic Hep C right? There is only a certain persentage???? So, maybe those who say they have it, are jsut saying they tested for it...I know Larry Hagman, JR from Dallas, had a transplant..due to Hep c and drank again after gettting his liver..he may have even gotten another one???? Now that seems unfair...Geri

October 17, 2006

,

I don't think your opinion is an immature one. IMO we all have some

responsibility to be role-models to others. Whether it be about how we

behave whilst on treatment or in life in general. But then, we are talking

about Pammy aren't we? She doens't exactly have a spotless

reputation does she?

As far as organ transplantation goes. I'm not so sure about America but I

would imagine it would be similar world wide. Here in Australia, just

because you happen to be at the top of the transplant list, doesn't mean you

automatically get the next available organ. There are a lot of factors

involved includeing blood type, weight, height, sex, (believe it or not)

and just how sick you are. Believe it or not you can be too sick for

transplant. It seems that one of the big factors is that the donated organ

goes into a similar body type as the one it came from.

Just enter the phrase - pre-transplant assessment - into a search engine and

you'll see how strict they are with their criteria for transplant

recipients.

Luv

anne

October 17, 2006

Ahh, anne, this helps. It's good to see that one can't get liver

transplants as easily as one can get other sorts of transplants (or

implants, rather). I suppose that I will just expend my ranting energy

on something positive, looks like I don't have to worry about ol' Pammy

cutting in front of the rest of us in the liver line!

>

> Just enter the phrase - pre-transplant assessment - into a search

engine and

> you'll see how strict they are with their criteria for transplant

> recipients.

>

> Luv

> anne

>

October 17, 2006

I wish I could be the one to debunk your theory, , but it's a well known fact that "money talks".. Speaking of which, I don't know much about transplant, someone mentioned that you only need "a piece" of a liver, is that true? My husband, sweetie that he is offered me as much as I needed, I didn't shake his world further by telling him that I didn't think it worked quite that easily, but I really know little about the subject.. I do know how you feel, , hang in.. Hugs, Sheena marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic attack (by the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, TYVM), I have this rant:The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the destruction of her already compromised liver, and is

she counting on going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity status?"Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone can give some factual input about the transplant list that will debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all for letting me vent!

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October 17, 2006

That's very sweet! My ex-husband offered me a piece of his liver with

fava beans and a nice chianti. He must think he's Hannibal Lechter.

But seriously, wouldn't that be great? I do think that to a degree

it's possible, because I read someplace that you can get a part of a

relative's liver and have a better chance of it not being rejected by

your body.

> All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic

attack (by

> the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking

> myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice,

> TYVM), I have this rant:

>

> The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do

> is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela

> with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple

> juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is

> enjoying " vodka cocktails " , etc when she has hep C! I know I

> shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to

> themselves, but I can't help thinking: " Here she is flaunting the

> destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on

> going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity

> status? "

>

> Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but

> water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair.

>

> Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone

> can give some factual input about the transplant list that will

> debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all

> for letting me vent!

>

> ---------------------------------

> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

>

October 17, 2006

Let's hope none of us get to needing one.. I am still (no longer patiently) waiting to see the specialist that can order a liver biopsy for me, and yes, for all of my kicking and screaming, I will have a "real" one if I ever get to that point, it's been a LONG wait even to get in to see him and near 2 more weeks to go.. Nothing like an HMO.. <sigh> Take care, Sheena marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: That's very sweet! My ex-husband offered me a piece of his liver withfava beans and a nice chianti. He must think he's Hannibal Lechter.But seriously, wouldn't that be great? I do think that to a degreeit's possible, because I read someplace that you can get a part of arelative's liver and have a better chance of it not being rejected byyour body. > All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panicattack (by > the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking > myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, > TYVM), I have this rant:> > The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do > is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela > with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple > juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is > enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I > shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to >

themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the > destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on > going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity > status?"> > Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but > water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. > > Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone > can give some factual input about the transplant list that will > debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all > for letting me vent!> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.>

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October 17, 2006

Sheena, let me know if you want/need some company when the day finally

arrives! I promise you, it will be anticlimatic after everything else

you have gone through!

> > All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic

> attack (by

> > the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking

> > myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice,

> > TYVM), I have this rant:

> >

> > The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do

> > is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela

> > with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple

> > juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is

> > enjoying " vodka cocktails " , etc when she has hep C! I know I

> > shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to

> > themselves, but I can't help thinking: " Here she is flaunting the

> > destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on

> > going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity

> > status? "

> >

> > Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but

> > water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair.

> >

> > Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone

> > can give some factual input about the transplant list that will

> > debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all

> > for letting me vent!

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

> >

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help.

Small Business.

>

October 17, 2006

>

> All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic attack

(by

> the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking

> myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's

advice,

> TYVM), I have this rant:

>

> The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can

do

> is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of

Pamela

> with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple

> juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she

is

> enjoying " vodka cocktails " , etc when she has hep C! I know I

> shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to

> themselves, but I can't help thinking: " Here she is flaunting the

> destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting

on

> going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity

> status? "

>

> Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but

> water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem

fair.

>

> Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe

someone

> can give some factual input about the transplant list that will

> debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all

> for letting me vent!

>

About 9 years ago I sponsored a man in Alcoholics Anonymous whom my

doctor put me in touch with.He was taking 28 medicines to stay

alive,yet he was in such a state of denial that he drank again and

went to the back of the list for trnsplant.

People,if you must stop drinking you have little chance all by

yourself if you are alcoholic.Give AA a shot,it's free and you can

find a strength there to accept your lot in life and be content.

Steve

October 17, 2006

Yes Sheena,, the split the liver and the person getting the tp gets the biggest portion and both of them will grow to normal size within about 6 months or less,, its amazing! Yes, money talks but thats NOT how its supposed to work,, people are put on the list according to meld scores and their physical status,, the most critical get the first shot if they are a match medically.. sometimes slips do happen ,, but not often.. Those with money can easily go abroad to get organs and many do that... Sheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: I wish I could be the one to debunk your theory, , but it's a well known fact that "money talks".. Speaking of which, I don't know much about transplant, someone mentioned that you only need "a piece" of a liver, is that true? My husband, sweetie that he is offered me as much as I needed, I didn't shake his world further by telling him that I didn't think it worked quite that easily, but I really know little about the subject.. I do know how you feel, , hang in.. Hugs, Sheena marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05 > wrote: All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results

panic attack (by the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, TYVM), I have this rant:The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity status?"Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair.

Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone can give some factual input about the transplant list that will debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all for letting me vent! Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Jackie

October 17, 2006

The liver only needs a small portion of cells in order to regenerate , so in the living donor program they take a small section of liver from the live donor and give it to the recipient . Within a short time the donor's liver heals back to a normal size and the recipients portion grows also .

Re: Hep C Drinkers - New Rant Today

That's very sweet! My ex-husband offered me a piece of his liver withfava beans and a nice chianti. He must think he's Hannibal Lechter.But seriously, wouldn't that be great? I do think that to a degreeit's possible, because I read someplace that you can get a part of arelative's liver and have a better chance of it not being rejected byyour body. > All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panicattack (by > the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking > myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, > TYVM), I have this rant:> > The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do > is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela > with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple > juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is > enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I > shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to > themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the > destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on > going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity > status?"> > Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but > water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. > > Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone > can give some factual input about the transplant list that will > debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all > for letting me vent!> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.>

October 18, 2006

Well Pam is not a good role model for folks with Hep C. Lets face it she is a idiot. Love Janetmarvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic attack (by the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, TYVM), I have this

rant:The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity status?"Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone can give some factual input about the transplant list that will debunk my theory that celebs go to the

top of the list? Thanks all for letting me vent!Take the ordinary things

of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile

October 18, 2006

Sheena, We have several members here awaiting transplant. I hope like the dickens that they get their transplants, but like many have said that it is a waiting game, getting the meld scores to the level that they want them. And then having the insurance or money to pay for the transplant. I pray for our members every day. Love JanetSheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Let's hope none of us get to needing one.. I am still (no longer patiently) waiting to see the specialist that can order a liver biopsy for me, and yes, for all of my kicking and screaming, I will have a "real" one if I ever get to that point, it's been a LONG wait even to get in to see him and near 2 more weeks to go.. Nothing like an HMO.. <sigh> Take care, Sheena marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That's very sweet! My ex-husband offered me a piece of his liver withfava beans and a nice chianti. He must think he's Hannibal Lechter.But seriously, wouldn't that be great? I do think that to a

degreeit's possible, because I read someplace that you can get a part of arelative's liver and have a better chance of it not being rejected byyour body. > All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panicattack (by > the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking > myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, > TYVM), I have this rant:> > The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do > is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela > with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple > juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is > enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I > shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to > themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the > destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on > going to the top of the transplant list because of her

celebrity > status?"> > Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but > water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. > > Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone > can give some factual input about the transplant list that will > debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all > for letting me vent!> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small

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October 18, 2006

Well, it's good to know that a live donor can actually be used if it comes to that, and let's hope it doesn't for any.. So, are you saying if you have a relative that's a match, and willing, (not that I do) you can then bypass the Transplant List? Thanks, ever learning here, Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Yes Sheena,, the split the liver and the person getting the tp gets the biggest portion and both of them will grow to normal size within about 6 months or less,, its amazing! Yes, money talks but thats NOT how its supposed to work,, people are put on the list according to meld scores and their physical status,, the most critical get the first shot if they are a match medically.. sometimes slips do happen ,, but not often.. Those with money can easily go abroad to get organs and many do that... Sheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: I wish I could be the one to debunk your theory, , but it's a well known fact that

"money talks".. Speaking of which, I don't know much about transplant, someone mentioned that you only need "a piece" of a liver, is that true? My husband, sweetie that he is offered me as much as I needed, I didn't shake his world further by telling him that I didn't think it worked quite that easily, but I really know little about the subject.. I do know how you feel, , hang in.. Hugs, Sheena marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05 > wrote: All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic attack (by the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, TYVM), I

have this rant:The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity status?"Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone can give some factual input about the transplant list that will debunk my theory that celebs

go to the top of the list? Thanks all for letting me vent! Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Jackie

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October 18, 2006

I am saddened to learn this and my prayers join yours for all. Sheena Janet <doc_jade@...> wrote: Sheena, We have several members here awaiting transplant. I hope like the dickens that they get their transplants, but like many have said that it is a waiting game, getting the meld scores to the level that they want them. And then having

the insurance or money to pay for the transplant. I pray for our members every day. Love JanetSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Let's hope none of us get to needing one.. I am still (no longer patiently) waiting to see the specialist that can order a liver biopsy for me, and yes, for all of my kicking and screaming, I will have a "real" one if I ever get to that point, it's been a LONG wait even to get in to see him and near 2 more weeks to go.. Nothing like an HMO.. <sigh> Take care, Sheena marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That's very sweet! My ex-husband offered me a piece of his liver withfava beans and a nice chianti. He must think he's Hannibal Lechter.But seriously, wouldn't that be great? I do think that to a degreeit's possible, because I read someplace that you can get a part of arelative's liver and have a better chance of it not being rejected byyour body. > All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panicattack (by > the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking > myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, > TYVM), I have this rant:> > The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do > is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela > with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple > juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is > enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she

has hep C! I know I > shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to > themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the > destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on > going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity > status?"> > Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but > water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. > > Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone > can give some factual input about the transplant list that will > debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all > for letting me vent!> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

out.> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile __________________________________________________

October 18, 2006

Amen to that one , I certainly wouldn't want to just have her to look up to .

Re: Hep C Drinkers - New Rant Today

Well Pam is not a good role model for folks with Hep C.

Lets face it she is a idiot.

Love

Janetmarvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05 > wrote:

All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic attack (by the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, TYVM), I have this rant:The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity status?"Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone can give some factual input about the transplant list that will debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all for letting me vent!Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile

October 18, 2006

I'M SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT I HAVE EMPATHY FOR ANYONE WHO HAS GOTTEN THIS DISEASE. THIS DISEASE IS NOT AN INDITEMENT ABOUT LIFESTYLE CHOICES. THE OTHER THING IS THAT NO ONE HAS MENTIONED IF SHE HAS GONE THRU TX, BEEN CLEARED ECT. I WOULD ALSO VENTURE TO SAY THAT A PERSON IN THE "BIZ" HAS GOT A MORE HECTIC SCHEDUALE THAN MOST OF US COULD KEEP UP WITH. GIVE AMERICA'S BARBY DOLL A BREAK!!!! SHE IS ONE OF US.

> All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic attack (by > the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking > myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, > TYVM), I have this rant:> > The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do > is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela > with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple > juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is > enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I > shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to > themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the > destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on > going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity > status?"> > Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but > water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. > > Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone > can give some factual input about the transplant list that will > debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all > for letting me vent!> > > > > > > > Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile>

October 18, 2006

If you are that concerned re Pam , can you write her your feelings? She must have a website.That might get her attention if fans are writing in with concerns of how she is behaving despite her illness. When a celebrity acts as a spokesperson for a disease, they have to also take on the responsibility of behaving in a manner to not bring negative attention to that disease.(and in the case of Hep C, more negative attention)

On the other hand it is possible that she isn't drinking real vodka and champagne. You can't believe everything you read. But I think she deserves to defend herself and you may feel better if you focus your anger constructively and have a possible positive outcome. I'm not saying you don't deserve to rant, we all need that, but if it is eating you up, then this could be a solution. You will feel better for going to the source and she may hear your concerns.

Ginger

October 18, 2006

You know, she might not know too. The Dr I had about 5 years ago told me I never needed to do anything about my Hep C and that I was so healthy I could have an occaional drink once in awhile if I wanted without any harm coming to me. What an idiot, luckily I didn't listen to him and have a new Dr now who was appauled at what this other Dr told me.

Ally

On 10/18/06, Swift <kswift@...> wrote:

If you are that concerned re Pam , can you write her your feelings? She must have a website.That might get her attention if fans are writing in with concerns of how she is behaving despite her illness. When a celebrity acts as a spokesperson for a disease, they have to also take on the responsibility of behaving in a manner to not bring negative attention to that disease.(and in the case of Hep C, more negative attention)

On the other hand it is possible that she isn't drinking real vodka and champagne. You can't believe everything you read. But I think she deserves to defend herself and you may feel better if you focus your anger constructively and have a possible positive outcome. I'm not saying you don't deserve to rant, we all need that, but if it is eating you up, then this could be a solution. You will feel better for going to the source and she may hear your concerns.

Ginger

October 18, 2006

Yes, IF you have a medical match and both are willing and your liver is bad enough to need the tp, yes, but you have to find a hosp that does the live orthotic liver tp.. not all centers do themSheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Well, it's good to know that a live donor can actually be used if it comes to that, and let's hope it doesn't for any.. So, are you saying if you have a relative that's a match, and willing,

(not that I do) you can then bypass the Transplant List? Thanks, ever learning here, Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Yes Sheena,, the split the liver and the person getting the tp gets the biggest portion and both of them will grow to normal size within about 6 months or less,, its amazing! Yes, money talks but thats NOT how its supposed to work,, people are put on the list according to meld scores and their physical status,, the most critical get the first shot if they are a match medically.. sometimes slips do happen ,, but not often.. Those with money can easily go abroad to get organs and many do that... Sheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: I wish I could be the one to debunk your theory, , but it's a well known fact that "money talks".. Speaking of which, I don't know much about transplant, someone mentioned that you only need "a piece" of a liver, is that true? My husband, sweetie that he is offered me as much as I needed, I didn't shake his world further by telling him that I didn't think it worked quite that easily, but I really know little about the subject.. I do know how you feel, , hang in.. Hugs, Sheena marvindamartian05

<marvindamartian05 > wrote: All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic attack (by the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, TYVM), I have this rant:The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on

going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity status?"Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone can give some factual input about the transplant list that will debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all for letting me vent! Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Jackie How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Jackie

October 18, 2006

I dont know , but with all the resources available to someone with her means I find it hard to believe that she doesnt know that drinking is bad for her . And she did go through the treatment , as far as clearing I thought she had and that is all the more reason she shouldn't be drinkin. I don't want someone like her to be an example for the world about us patients who have hep c . Sorry but starlet's like her give our disease a bad name

Re: Hep C Drinkers - New Rant Today

I'M SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT I HAVE EMPATHY FOR ANYONE WHO HAS GOTTEN THIS DISEASE. THIS DISEASE IS NOT AN INDITEMENT ABOUT LIFESTYLE CHOICES. THE OTHER THING IS THAT NO ONE HAS MENTIONED IF SHE HAS GONE THRU TX, BEEN CLEARED ECT. I WOULD ALSO VENTURE TO SAY THAT A PERSON IN THE "BIZ" HAS GOT A MORE HECTIC SCHEDUALE THAN MOST OF US COULD KEEP UP WITH. GIVE AMERICA'S BARBY DOLL A BREAK!!!! SHE IS ONE OF US.

> All, to get my mind off yesterday's biopsy results panic attack (by > the way, still haven't heard from the dr. yet so I will be taking > myself over to their office forthwith, pursuant to everyone's advice, > TYVM), I have this rant:> > The most (or one of the most)stupid and insane thing a hepper can do > is drink alcohol, right? Well, I am so sick of seeing pix of Pamela > with glasses of champagne (the real stuff, not just apple > juice in a pretty glass), reading captions in People mag that she is > enjoying "vodka cocktails", etc when she has hep C! I know I > shouldn't give a damn about celebrities and what they do to > themselves, but I can't help thinking: "Here she is flaunting the > destruction of her already compromised liver, and is she counting on > going to the top of the transplant list because of her celebrity > status?"> > Meanwhile the rest of us are eating tofu and drinking nothing but > water (and espresso) and struggling to be healthy. Doesn't seem fair. > > Just my opinion, and probalby an immmature one at that. Maybe someone > can give some factual input about the transplant list that will > debunk my theory that celebs go to the top of the list? Thanks all > for letting me vent!> > > > > > > > Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile>

October 18, 2006

I wouldn't exactly call myself a fan although I do care about people,

and I would consider Naomi Judd a better spokesperson and role model

(plus having been her neighbor years ago in TN, I can attest that she

is a genuinely nice person!). I suppose I singled Pam out because

she is so visible these days, to put across the point that it doesn't

seem fair that some can take this disease's effects on the body

seriously, and some continue to abuse their bodies (speculating about

Pammy here as an example), and yet there is only one transplant list

for all. In any case, anne and others shared their knowledge

about how the transplant list really works, and I did some futher

research, so I am pretty edified by now. Unfortunately, I did learn

yesterday that there are several other celebrities (I won't mention

names lest I offend anyone) who have had liver transplants and still

drink. Very sad and I pray that they, and others would seek help.

>

> If you are that concerned re Pam , can you write her your

feelings? She must have a website.That might get her attention if

fans are writing in with concerns of how she is behaving despite her

illness. When a celebrity acts as a spokesperson for a disease, they

have to also take on the responsibility of behaving in a manner to

not bring negative attention to that disease.(and in the case of Hep

C, more negative attention)

>

> On the other hand it is possible that she isn't drinking real vodka

and champagne. You can't believe everything you read. But I think she

deserves to defend herself and you may feel better if you focus your

anger constructively and have a possible positive outcome. I'm not

saying you don't deserve to rant, we all need that, but if it is

eating you up, then this could be a solution. You will feel better

for going to the source and she may hear your concerns.

> Ginger

>

October 19, 2006

Personally I don't pay any attention to the actions or opinions of

'celebrities'. I don't even watch TV : ) I wish wellness in body and mind

to all, but who knows why our spirits make the choices they make in this

life?

Nikki