Re: Dawn As of 11 pm Monday

[Guest guest]

Goodmorning Ed ! Sorry to learn about Dawn's illness and situation. I had my wife in the hospital two years ago for a dangerous UTI that had spilled over into her blood system and heart. Fortunately, it did not affect her heart muscle and structure. Prayer WORKS....I know personally. My Men's group at church that meet tonight will offer up a prayer for her. - Houston,Texas ================================================================Ed Gundy <edgundy@...> wrote: I admitted Dawn to ER this afternoon and she was diagnosed with severepneumonia. They transferred her back up to ICU again where they will beperforming some heart tests on her in the morning.I suspect she has congestive heart failure along with inferior vena cava syndrome and the pneumonia is secondary to the two prior conditions.I suggested this to the doctor this evening and she is thinking about it.And ... this is all secondary to the emergency stomach surgery she had last

August.This is her third stay in ICU in the past 13 months. I would just love to have a "normal" year once again.Will keep you posted.Ed - Moderator Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost.

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Ed, I'm so sorry to hear about Dawn's very serious illness. For whatever it's worth, may I offer a suggestion? Please hear me out, because what I'm about to tell you concerns something that was turned into a huge media joke recently, but it's no laughing matter. I'm talking about the so-called "blue man," who had consumed, I think it was, about a quart a day of colloidal silver for decades. First of all, who in their right mind would consume any non-food or -drink substance in such quantities for that period of time, and if they did, how likely would they be to live to tell about it? Anyway, he wound up with blue-gray skin, but what they didn't tell us but I'm absolutely certain of is that he has not suffered any infection during that time. Silver has a track record far longer than anything made by a pharmaceutical company, and its safety record compared to antibiotics? As far as I have been able to determine, the worst it can do is turn your skin blue if you

use it as a substitute for drinking water! And from what I understand, there's no possibility of a microbe becoming silver-resistant. Several years ago, post-massive-statin overdose, my immune system was so severely compromised that I had a sinus infection that went on and on and on, despite repeated rounds of various antibiotics. Finally one day in desperation, I asked my husband to go by the health food store and see if they had anything to offer. He came home with a bottle of Sovereign Silver brand colloidal silver. Looked just like plain water to me, but I was willing to try anything at that point. Well, within a day I was marveling at how much better I was feeling, compared to how long it always took for an antibiotic to start making a difference! So I continued to spray it under my tongue several times a day for another day and by then I no longer had any symptoms whatsoever. But in a couple of days my sinuses were trying to get my

attention again, so I started the silver treatment again and this time I followed instructions to the letter and used it for a total of four days. And that's all it took to cure my sinuses! Since then, if I ever have even the slightest hint that I might be getting an infection of any kind, I start using the silver and it stops it in its tracks. I haven't had so much as a cold in all that time. I also use it to spray on cuts and scrapes, even in my eye, since it's effective against all microbes: bacterial, viral and fungal. I always keep at least several ounces on hand; don't use it all that often, but I figure in case of bird flu epidemic, MRSA outbreak, whatever, I'm prepared. I can only imagine what most doctors' reactions would be to the suggestion of using silver nowadays. But if Dawn's pneumonia does not respond to antibiotics, what do you have to lose by asking--even insisting--that colloidal silver be tried? I hope by now that regular antibiotics are kicking in, but if not, do consider silver. I hope and pray that she'll recover. And by the way, was right: prayer does work! I know colloidal silver was an answer to mine and I hope it will be for you and others who read this. Ed Gundy <edgundy@...> wrote: I admitted Dawn to ER this afternoon and she was diagnosed with severepneumonia. They transferred her back up to ICU again where they will beperforming some

heart tests on her in the morning.I suspect she has congestive heart failure along with inferior vena cava syndrome and the pneumonia is secondary to the two prior conditions.I suggested this to the doctor this evening and she is thinking about it.And ... this is all secondary to the emergency stomach surgery she had last August.This is her third stay in ICU in the past 13 months. I would just love to have a "normal" year once again.Will keep you posted.Ed - Moderator Like movies? Here's a

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Ed, what is the latest on Dawn?

Gene

At 12:46 AM 4/1/2008, you wrote:

I admitted Dawn to ER this

afternoon and she was diagnosed with severe

pneumonia. They transferred her back up to ICU again where they

will be

performing some heart tests on her in the morning.

I suspect she has

congestive heart failure along with

inferior vena cava

syndrome

and the pneumonia is secondary to the two prior conditions.

I suggested this to the doctor this evening and she is thinking about

it.

And ... this is all secondary to the emergency stomach surgery she had

last August.

This is her third stay in ICU in the past 13 months. I would just

love to

have a " normal " year once again.

Will keep you posted.

Ed - Moderator

[Guest guest]

Hi Gene ... thanks for asking.

The latest is she has severe pneumonia in both lungs and she also has

sepsis.

They are pushing mega doses of antibiotics into her as you may imagine.

We both feel there is an underlying issue as well, but because she

does not have a primary physician (Dawn has been procrastinating

getting a new one since her last ordeal last August with her previous

doctor nearly killing her with the bad prescription of Toradol).

A cardiologist who my mother in law works with seems to feel that she

may have ICVS (inferior vena cava syndrome - something that can pop up

from abdominal surgeries) which then can turn into CHF) yet the

hospital physician will not do a abdominal CT scan while she is in the

hospital because her diagnosis is not heart related.

But, she was scheduled to have this CT scan this past Monday which

happened to be the day she was admitted into the hospital because an

urgent care physician suspected heart issues because of the edema.

So ... now she needs to get out of the hospital and reschedule the CT

scan and come right back to the same hospital that she is now to have

the CT scan performed.

Wouldn't it be good to do the CT scan while she is in the hospital

just to rule out the ICVS? She had edema one week earlier and one of

the symptoms of ICVS is edema.

OH... and we at least have an attorney who will now sit down and

listen to us about what happened last August when she spent 15 days in

ICU because of the bad issuance of a prescription by her previous

doctor which ended up nearly killing her.

None of the attorneys we spoke to around here wanted to touch this

case because she did not die. Surviving those 15 days (which is a

miracle in itself based on what everyone at the hospital told us) is

not " worthwhile " to attorneys.

She now has hypothyroidism due to the shock her body went into having

so little volume of blood in her system.

She could sleep 20 hours a day if I would let her. She has gained 40

pounds since August being that her metabolism is not at all what it

was before the surgery.

Her personality has changed which has been noticed by many people we know.

Yet ... it seems that attorneys do not believe that there were any

damages caused by the neglectful doctor (and staff for the doctor) but

if she died that would be proof.

In the meantime, you should see the medical bills we have here.

But, no damages!

> >I admitted Dawn to ER this afternoon and she was diagnosed with severe

> >pneumonia. They transferred her back up to ICU again where they

will be

> >performing some heart tests on her in the morning.

> >

> >I suspect she has

>

><http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4585>congestive

> >heart failure along with

> ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferior_vena_cava_syndrome>inferior

vena cava

> >syndrome<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferior_vena_cava_syndrome>

> >and the pneumonia is secondary to the two prior conditions.

> >

> >I suggested this to the doctor this evening and she is thinking

about it.

> >

> >And ... this is all secondary to the emergency stomach surgery she had

> >last August.

> >

> >This is her third stay in ICU in the past 13 months. I would just

love to

> >have a " normal " year once again.

> >

> >Will keep you posted.

> >

> >Ed - Moderator

>

[Guest guest]

ED, I didn't realize that we already had examples of the "British Healthcare System" in place here in the US. A long time UK friend of mine was treated the same way over the years after finally getting a triple by-pass. He had complications and it was determined that his chest cavity has not been closed properly but they determined THAT should be taken care of by a bone specialist....so he had to get out of the hospital and then check back in the next day and go through the same old song and dance. I just got out of hospital here in Houston, after having my first (and hope only) bout with Pneumonia. I was in for a week, constantly on IVs and Lung mists therapy every 4 hours for 7-days. It was a long slow ordeal, but am back to normal health again. Our "Empty Nesters" church small group will offer up a pray for her this coming Monday nite at our "Small Group Meeting" . God Bless........ !Ed Gundy <edgundy@...> wrote: Hi Gene ... thanks for asking.The latest is she has severe pneumonia in both lungs and she also hassepsis.They are pushing mega doses of antibiotics into her as you may imagine.We both feel

there is an underlying issue as well, but because shedoes not have a primary physician (Dawn has been procrastinatinggetting a new one since her last ordeal last August with her previousdoctor nearly killing her with the bad prescription of Toradol).A cardiologist who my mother in law works with seems to feel that shemay have ICVS (inferior vena cava syndrome - something that can pop upfrom abdominal surgeries) which then can turn into CHF) yet thehospital physician will not do a abdominal CT scan while she is in thehospital because her diagnosis is not heart related.But, she was scheduled to have this CT scan this past Monday whichhappened to be the day she was admitted into the hospital because anurgent care physician suspected heart issues because of the edema.So ... now she needs to get out of the hospital and reschedule the CTscan and come right back to the same hospital that she is now to havethe CT

scan performed.Wouldn't it be good to do the CT scan while she is in the hospitaljust to rule out the ICVS? She had edema one week earlier and one ofthe symptoms of ICVS is edema.OH... and we at least have an attorney who will now sit down andlisten to us about what happened last August when she spent 15 days inICU because of the bad issuance of a prescription by her previousdoctor which ended up nearly killing her.None of the attorneys we spoke to around here wanted to touch thiscase because she did not die. Surviving those 15 days (which is amiracle in itself based on what everyone at the hospital told us) isnot "worthwhile" to attorneys.She now has hypothyroidism due to the shock her body went into havingso little volume of blood in her system.She could sleep 20 hours a day if I would let her. She has gained 40pounds since August being that her metabolism is not at all what itwas before

the surgery.Her personality has changed which has been noticed by many people we know.Yet ... it seems that attorneys do not believe that there were anydamages caused by the neglectful doctor (and staff for the doctor) butif she died that would be proof.In the meantime, you should see the medical bills we have here.But, no damages!> >I admitted Dawn to ER this afternoon and she was diagnosed with severe> >pneumonia. They transferred her back up to ICU again where theywill be> >performing some heart tests on her in the morning.> >> >I suspect she has >><http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4585>congestive > >heart failure along with > ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferior_vena_cava_syndrome>inferiorvena cava> >syndrome<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferior_vena_cava_syndrome> > >and the pneumonia is secondary to the two prior conditions.> >> >I suggested this to the doctor this evening and she is thinkingabout it.> >> >And ... this is all secondary to the emergency stomach surgery she had> >last August.> >> >This is her third stay in ICU in the past 13 months. I would justlove to> >have a

"normal" year once again.> >> >Will keep you posted.> >> >Ed - Moderator>

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[Guest guest]

Wow!!! Ed, you could write a book about what bad doctoring

can do.

Please keep us posted. Dawn is such a beautiful woman.

Gene

At 09:02 AM 4/3/2008, you wrote:

Hi Gene ... thanks for

asking.

The latest is she has severe pneumonia in both lungs and she also

has

sepsis.

They are pushing mega doses of antibiotics into her as you may

imagine.

We both feel there is an underlying issue as well, but because she

does not have a primary physician (Dawn has been procrastinating

getting a new one since her last ordeal last August with her

previous

doctor nearly killing her with the bad prescription of Toradol).

A cardiologist who my mother in law works with seems to feel that

she

may have ICVS (inferior vena cava syndrome - something that can pop

up

from abdominal surgeries) which then can turn into CHF) yet the

hospital physician will not do a abdominal CT scan while she is in

the

hospital because her diagnosis is not heart related.

But, she was scheduled to have this CT scan this past Monday which

happened to be the day she was admitted into the hospital because an

urgent care physician suspected heart issues because of the

edema.

So ... now she needs to get out of the hospital and reschedule the

CT

scan and come right back to the same hospital that she is now to

have

the CT scan performed.

Wouldn't it be good to do the CT scan while she is in the hospital

just to rule out the ICVS? She had edema one week earlier and one

of

the symptoms of ICVS is edema.

OH... and we at least have an attorney who will now sit down and

listen to us about what happened last August when she spent 15 days

in

ICU because of the bad issuance of a prescription by her previous

doctor which ended up nearly killing her.

None of the attorneys we spoke to around here wanted to touch this

case because she did not die. Surviving those 15 days (which is

a

miracle in itself based on what everyone at the hospital told us) is

not " worthwhile " to attorneys.

She now has hypothyroidism due to the shock her body went into

having

so little volume of blood in her system.

She could sleep 20 hours a day if I would let her. She has gained

40

pounds since August being that her metabolism is not at all what it

was before the surgery.

Her personality has changed which has been noticed by many people we

know.

Yet ... it seems that attorneys do not believe that there were any

damages caused by the neglectful doctor (and staff for the doctor)

but

if she died that would be proof.

In the meantime, you should see the medical bills we have here.

But, no damages!

[Guest guest]

Dawn was discharged from the hospital today @ 2:30 Pacific time.

> >Hi Gene ... thanks for asking.

> >

> >The latest is she has severe pneumonia in both lungs and she also has

> >sepsis.

> >

> >They are pushing mega doses of antibiotics into her as you may imagine.

> >

> >We both feel there is an underlying issue as well, but because she

> >does not have a primary physician (Dawn has been procrastinating

> >getting a new one since her last ordeal last August with her previous

> >doctor nearly killing her with the bad prescription of Toradol).

> >

> >A cardiologist who my mother in law works with seems to feel that she

> >may have ICVS (inferior vena cava syndrome - something that can pop up

> >from abdominal surgeries) which then can turn into CHF) yet the

> >hospital physician will not do a abdominal CT scan while she is in the

> >hospital because her diagnosis is not heart related.

> >

> >But, she was scheduled to have this CT scan this past Monday which

> >happened to be the day she was admitted into the hospital because an

> >urgent care physician suspected heart issues because of the edema.

> >

> >So ... now she needs to get out of the hospital and reschedule the CT

> >scan and come right back to the same hospital that she is now to have

> >the CT scan performed.

> >

> >Wouldn't it be good to do the CT scan while she is in the hospital

> >just to rule out the ICVS? She had edema one week earlier and one of

> >the symptoms of ICVS is edema.

> >

> >OH... and we at least have an attorney who will now sit down and

> >listen to us about what happened last August when she spent 15 days in

> >ICU because of the bad issuance of a prescription by her previous

> >doctor which ended up nearly killing her.

> >

> >None of the attorneys we spoke to around here wanted to touch this

> >case because she did not die. Surviving those 15 days (which is a

> >miracle in itself based on what everyone at the hospital told us) is

> >not " worthwhile " to attorneys.

> >

> >She now has hypothyroidism due to the shock her body went into having

> >so little volume of blood in her system.

> >

> >She could sleep 20 hours a day if I would let her. She has gained 40

> >pounds since August being that her metabolism is not at all what it

> >was before the surgery.

> >

> >Her personality has changed which has been noticed by many people

we know.

> >

> >Yet ... it seems that attorneys do not believe that there were any

> >damages caused by the neglectful doctor (and staff for the doctor) but

> >if she died that would be proof.

> >

> >In the meantime, you should see the medical bills we have here.

> >

> >But, no damages!

>

[Guest guest]

My wife Amy had a minor heart attack. She needed a referral from her PCP to see the cardiologist who cathed her in the hospital for a follow up.

The system is so broken that I'm starting to agree with Dr Wallach - if you want to live a long life avoid doctors.

Glenn______________________"Life is not about finding yourself; it is about creating yourself. " - Bernard Shaw

Re: Dawn As of 11 pm Monday

Dawn was discharged from the hospital today @ 2:30 Pacific time.> >Hi Gene ... thanks for asking.> >> >The latest is she has severe pneumonia in both lungs and she also has> >sepsis.> >> >They are pushing mega doses of antibiotics into her as you may imagine.> >> >We both feel there is an underlying issue as well, but because she> >does not have a primary physician (Dawn has been procrastinating> >getting a new one since her last ordeal last August with her previous> >doctor nearly killing her with the bad prescription of Toradol).> >> >A cardiologist who my mother in law works with seems to feel that she> >may have ICVS (inferior vena cava syndrome - something that can pop up> >from abdominal surgeries) which then can turn into CHF) yet the> >hospital physician will not do a abdominal CT scan while she is in the> >hospital because her diagnosis is not heart related.> >> >But, she was scheduled to have this CT scan this past Monday which> >happened to be the day she was admitted into the hospital because an> >urgent care physician suspected heart issues because of the edema.> >> >So ... now she needs to get out of the hospital and reschedule the CT> >scan and come right back to the same hospital that she is now to have> >the CT scan performed.> >> >Wouldn't it be good to do the CT scan while she is in the hospital> >just to rule out the ICVS? She had edema one week earlier and one of> >the symptoms of ICVS is edema.> >> >OH... and we at least have an attorney who will now sit down and> >listen to us about what happened last August when she spent 15 days in> >ICU because of the bad issuance of a prescription by her previous> >doctor which ended up nearly killing her.> >> >None of the attorneys we spoke to around here wanted to touch this> >case because she did not die. Surviving those 15 days (which is a> >miracle in itself based on what everyone at the hospital told us) is> >not "worthwhile" to attorneys.> >> >She now has hypothyroidism due to the shock her body went into having> >so little volume of blood in her system.> >> >She could sleep 20 hours a day if I would let her. She has gained 40> >pounds since August being that her metabolism is not at all what it> >was before the surgery.> >> >Her personality has changed which has been noticed by many peoplewe know.> >> >Yet ... it seems that attorneys do not believe that there were any> >damages caused by the neglectful doctor (and staff for the doctor) but> >if she died that would be proof.> >> >In the meantime, you should see the medical bills we have here.> >> >But, no damages!>