Re: Doc wants me to take Zetia

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I know, Bobby, it left my post making no sense. I had edited out everything from your post except the point I was commenting on; I don't know why it didn't make the transition. Here's what inspired me to comment: Most people don't hold a degree in human biology. So its very easy for marketeers to pull the wool over the eyes of the general public. But if every person had an understanding of what cholesterol is and its bodily functions, people would be more concerned with how they can INCREASE their cholesterol levels.To which I replied: Bobby, that sounds like an indictment of

the entire medical profession! Surely not?! Or...could it possibly be true?! So where does that leave us poor patients?! Oh, no, say it isn't so!flyinresorts <flyinresorts@...> wrote: , My post didn't appear below your question, so I am not sure which post I made that you are referring to below.Bobby > ...Most people don't hold a degree in human biology. So its very easy > for marketeers to pull the wool over the eyes of the general public. > But if every person had an understanding of what cholesterol is and > its bodily functions, people would be more concerned with how they > can INCREASE their cholesterol levels.> > > Recent Activity> > 3> New Members> > Visit Your Group > Health> Achy Joint?> Common arthritis> myths debunked.> > Meditation and> Lovingkindness> A Group> to

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I did not intend for my statement to indict the entire medical

community. After all, a doctor saved my life when I had thyroid

cancer, and saved my friend when he had a brain tumor. I have several

physician friends whom I care for and respect.

Its the cholesterol lowering sector of medicine I have no respect

for. Even my Pathologist friend is disgusted by the cholesterol fraud.

The statement you quoted from me I beleive to be 100% correct. So to

answer your question , yes, its that way. But its not meant to

condemn the entire medical community.

YES. The majority of the population does not hold a degree in human

biology. Thats 100% true.

YES. Only a Tiny fraction of people are aware of what cholesterol is

and what its functions are in the human body. I made a fun game out

of this at work by creating a " CAN YOU GUESS WHAT IT IS? " game. I

then listed the bodily functions of cholesterol.( But without saying

the name cholesterol.) Most people guess water. Some guess oxygen.

Only one person was able to get the answer. But thats because he was

a nuclear pharmacist. A table full of nurses had no clue.

YES. Marketeers can be slick as a snake in an oil pan. They play on

people's beleif that cholesterol is there for the purpose of clogging

our arteries and killing people. They use fear of death to fuel

sales, and they entertain your doctor until he prescribes the drug.

YES. Its true that if the general population had a clear

understanding of all the good cholesterol does, ( and understood that

elevated cholesterol has never been proven to cause heart disease.)

They would have no desire to lower cholesterol.

Bobby

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I did not intend for my statement to indict the entire medical

community. After all, a doctor saved my life when I had thyroid

cancer, and saved my friend when he had a brain tumor. I have several

physician friends whom I care for and respect.

Its the cholesterol lowering sector of medicine I have no respect

for. Even my Pathologist friend is disgusted by the cholesterol fraud.

The statement you quoted from me I beleive to be 100% correct. So to

answer your question , yes, its that way. But its not meant to

condemn the entire medical community.

YES. The majority of the population does not hold a degree in human

biology. Thats 100% true.

YES. Only a Tiny fraction of people are aware of what cholesterol is

and what its functions are in the human body. I made a fun game out

of this at work by creating a " CAN YOU GUESS WHAT IT IS? " game. I

then listed the bodily functions of cholesterol.( But without saying

the name cholesterol.) Most people guess water. Some guess oxygen.

Only one person was able to get the answer. But thats because he was

a nuclear pharmacist. A table full of nurses had no clue.

YES. Marketeers can be slick as a snake in an oil pan. They play on

people's beleif that cholesterol is there for the purpose of clogging

our arteries and killing people. They use fear of death to fuel

sales, and they entertain your doctor until he prescribes the drug.

YES. Its true that if the general population had a clear

understanding of all the good cholesterol does, ( and understood that

elevated cholesterol has never been proven to cause heart disease.)

They would have no desire to lower cholesterol.

Bobby

> > ...Most people don't hold a degree in human biology. So its very

> easy

> > for marketeers to pull the wool over the eyes of the general

> public.

> > But if every person had an understanding of what cholesterol is

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Bobby please can I have the questionairre to send to people

Pamel

> > ...Most people don't hold a degree in human biology. So its very

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Bobby please can I have the questionairre to send to people

Pamel

> > ...Most people don't hold a degree in human biology. So its very

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Bobby, me too. phine

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> Bobby please can I have the questionairre to send to people

> Pamel

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> --- In Lipitor , Carlisle

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Bobby, me too. phine

-- In Lipitor , " bty227736 "

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> Bobby please can I have the questionairre to send to people

> Pamel

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> --- In Lipitor , Carlisle

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Bobby, it wasn't my intention to say literally that you were condemning the entire medical community. I know, that's what I said though, didn't I? It was a tongue-in-cheek jab at the vast numbers of doctors who are only too willing to be shills for the drug companies. I'm sorry it didn't come off as just that. I too know some doctors whom I respect. If only there were more of them! Best regards, flyinresorts <flyinresorts@...> wrote: I did not intend for my statement to indict the entire

medical community. After all, a doctor saved my life when I had thyroid cancer, and saved my friend when he had a brain tumor. I have several physician friends whom I care for and respect. Its the cholesterol lowering sector of medicine I have no respect for. Even my Pathologist friend is disgusted by the cholesterol fraud.The statement you quoted from me I beleive to be 100% correct. So to answer your question , yes, its that way. But its not meant to condemn the entire medical community.YES. The majority of the population does not hold a degree in human biology. Thats 100% true.YES. Only a Tiny fraction of people are aware of what cholesterol is and what its functions are in the human body. I made a fun game out of this at work by creating a "CAN YOU GUESS WHAT IT IS?" game. I then listed the bodily functions of cholesterol.( But without saying the name cholesterol.) Most people

guess water. Some guess oxygen. Only one person was able to get the answer. But thats because he was a nuclear pharmacist. A table full of nurses had no clue.YES. Marketeers can be slick as a snake in an oil pan. They play on people's beleif that cholesterol is there for the purpose of clogging our arteries and killing people. They use fear of death to fuel sales, and they entertain your doctor until he prescribes the drug.YES. Its true that if the general population had a clear understanding of all the good cholesterol does, ( and understood that elevated cholesterol has never been proven to cause heart disease.) They would have no desire to lower cholesterol.Bobby > > ...Most people don't hold a degree in human biology. So its very > easy > > for marketeers to pull the wool over the eyes of the general > public. > > But if every person had an understanding of what cholesterol is and > > its bodily functions, people would be more concerned with how they > > can INCREASE their cholesterol levels.> > > > >

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Bobby, it wasn't my intention to say literally that you were condemning the entire medical community. I know, that's what I said though, didn't I? It was a tongue-in-cheek jab at the vast numbers of doctors who are only too willing to be shills for the drug companies. I'm sorry it didn't come off as just that. I too know some doctors whom I respect. If only there were more of them! Best regards, flyinresorts <flyinresorts@...> wrote: I did not intend for my statement to indict the entire

medical community. After all, a doctor saved my life when I had thyroid cancer, and saved my friend when he had a brain tumor. I have several physician friends whom I care for and respect. Its the cholesterol lowering sector of medicine I have no respect for. Even my Pathologist friend is disgusted by the cholesterol fraud.The statement you quoted from me I beleive to be 100% correct. So to answer your question , yes, its that way. But its not meant to condemn the entire medical community.YES. The majority of the population does not hold a degree in human biology. Thats 100% true.YES. Only a Tiny fraction of people are aware of what cholesterol is and what its functions are in the human body. I made a fun game out of this at work by creating a "CAN YOU GUESS WHAT IT IS?" game. I then listed the bodily functions of cholesterol.( But without saying the name cholesterol.) Most people

guess water. Some guess oxygen. Only one person was able to get the answer. But thats because he was a nuclear pharmacist. A table full of nurses had no clue.YES. Marketeers can be slick as a snake in an oil pan. They play on people's beleif that cholesterol is there for the purpose of clogging our arteries and killing people. They use fear of death to fuel sales, and they entertain your doctor until he prescribes the drug.YES. Its true that if the general population had a clear understanding of all the good cholesterol does, ( and understood that elevated cholesterol has never been proven to cause heart disease.) They would have no desire to lower cholesterol.Bobby > > ...Most people don't hold a degree in human biology. So its very > easy > > for marketeers to pull the wool over the eyes of the general > public. > > But if every person had an understanding of what cholesterol is and > > its bodily functions, people would be more concerned with how they > > can INCREASE their cholesterol levels.> > > > >

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Sure, I have a copy of the questionair in my computer somewhere. Let me

find it and I will post it here for everyone. Its fun to watch people

try to guess. people are very surprised when they learn the answer is

cholesterol.

Bobby

> >

> > Bobby please can I have the questionairre to send to people

> > Pamel

> >

> > --- In Lipitor , Carlisle

>

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Sure, I have a copy of the questionair in my computer somewhere. Let me

find it and I will post it here for everyone. Its fun to watch people

try to guess. people are very surprised when they learn the answer is

cholesterol.

Bobby

> >

> > Bobby please can I have the questionairre to send to people

> > Pamel

> >

> > --- In Lipitor , Carlisle

>

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Bobby, I don't believe I ever addressed your question about why I

keep visiting the doctor. I see my gp every 4 months due to type 2

diabetes, most likely due to heredity, I've been told. My father

developed type 2 in his early 40's, about the same age I did. Since I

had that in my family history, my gynecologist started checking me

for diabetes during my yearly check-ups. My mother also had

cholesterol over 300.

When my sugar started going up, I was told to follow up with my gp,

who recommended diet and exercise. I lost 10 lbs. and was down to

145 lbs., but that made no differance in the sugar levels. He also

said diabetics are more prone to heart disease and he started

checking my cholesterol levels. When my TC crept up over 200, he

prescribed 10 mg of Zocor. I started in Dec. of 2001, and within 3

months, I developed tennis elbow and knee pains. The muscle pains

started as a result of physical therapy for the tennis elbow, which

was from a repititous job I was told. I quit the job, no relief of

pain. The weight-lifting and resistance bands during the last round

of P/T in fall of 2006 caused biciptal tendonitis (the physical

therapist diagnosed this.) The P/T was toned down, but the biceps

pain continued for 4 months. I had been prescribed anti-

imflammatories, muscle relaxers, anti-depressants, darvocet for

daytime and percocet for nightime pain, these all started 3 months

after begining the Zocor. I felt like a walking pharmacy. I have

also had at least 8 cortisone injections in numerous painful joints,

which x-rays showed mild arthritis.

When I got jury duty last March, I felt I could not serve due to all

the drugs I was taking, I was also developing brainfog and

insominia. I went to my gp and asked if the on-going pain could be

from the Zocor. I started listening to the Lipitor commercials that

warned of " unexplained muscle pain or weakness, that could be the

sign of a serious side effect and to talk to your doctor. " At this

point my TC was down to 167, good my gp told me. CPK levels were

normal, although I was diagnosed with myositis (muscle imflammation.)

I wonder how that happened!

When he said to stop the Zocor, the 4 months of arm pain went away.

Then my mind started to clear and I started sleeping longer than 2

hours at a time. I was feeling better than I had in years. A month

later my TC went up to 232, so pg prescribes 5 mg of Crestor. I took

one tablet and developed wide-spread muscle pain, and couldn't sleep

all night due to the pain, that's when I was given cymbalta and

percocet, cause I called the doctor's office crying in pain.

Sorry this is so involved, but these symptoms didn't even occur to me

to be statin-related until I found this and numerous sites and

articles about the " great cholesterol myth and Big Pharma con game. "

Who would think that going to your doctor would make your feel worse!

I am starting to wonder if taking diabetes oral medications can cause

your pancreas to burn it self out. I already have had to stop taking

Avandia due to painful edema. I took that for about 5 years and

started to worry about the heart concerns. I have lost 18 lbs. since

stopping Avandia, which was probably fluid. Pains I still had in my

thighs have disappeared now.

I was sent to this endo by my gp due to worsening hairloss. He was

more worried about my 208 TC and elevated blood glucose due to

stopping the Avandia.

Many of the doctor visits in the past were due to these chronic pain

conditions caused by statin-induce muscle damage. I am now suffering

from gallstones, and benign liver nodules. I wonder if these

conditions are caused by taking all these drugs.

Connie

> > > > > >Yes, I had the thyroid panel done, but I had to ask for

it.

> > TSH

> > > > was

> > > > > >normal as were the others T3, T4, whatever was in

> the " thyroid

> > > > panel. "

> > > > > >Also, a derm is checking other hormones testosterone,

> > prolactin,

> > > > > >DHEAS, Vit D, zinc, etc. Maybe something else will show

up.

> > > > > >Thanks, Connie

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Bobby, I don't believe I ever addressed your question about why I

keep visiting the doctor. I see my gp every 4 months due to type 2

diabetes, most likely due to heredity, I've been told. My father

developed type 2 in his early 40's, about the same age I did. Since I

had that in my family history, my gynecologist started checking me

for diabetes during my yearly check-ups. My mother also had

cholesterol over 300.

When my sugar started going up, I was told to follow up with my gp,

who recommended diet and exercise. I lost 10 lbs. and was down to

145 lbs., but that made no differance in the sugar levels. He also

said diabetics are more prone to heart disease and he started

checking my cholesterol levels. When my TC crept up over 200, he

prescribed 10 mg of Zocor. I started in Dec. of 2001, and within 3

months, I developed tennis elbow and knee pains. The muscle pains

started as a result of physical therapy for the tennis elbow, which

was from a repititous job I was told. I quit the job, no relief of

pain. The weight-lifting and resistance bands during the last round

of P/T in fall of 2006 caused biciptal tendonitis (the physical

therapist diagnosed this.) The P/T was toned down, but the biceps

pain continued for 4 months. I had been prescribed anti-

imflammatories, muscle relaxers, anti-depressants, darvocet for

daytime and percocet for nightime pain, these all started 3 months

after begining the Zocor. I felt like a walking pharmacy. I have

also had at least 8 cortisone injections in numerous painful joints,

which x-rays showed mild arthritis.

When I got jury duty last March, I felt I could not serve due to all

the drugs I was taking, I was also developing brainfog and

insominia. I went to my gp and asked if the on-going pain could be

from the Zocor. I started listening to the Lipitor commercials that

warned of " unexplained muscle pain or weakness, that could be the

sign of a serious side effect and to talk to your doctor. " At this

point my TC was down to 167, good my gp told me. CPK levels were

normal, although I was diagnosed with myositis (muscle imflammation.)

I wonder how that happened!

When he said to stop the Zocor, the 4 months of arm pain went away.

Then my mind started to clear and I started sleeping longer than 2

hours at a time. I was feeling better than I had in years. A month

later my TC went up to 232, so pg prescribes 5 mg of Crestor. I took

one tablet and developed wide-spread muscle pain, and couldn't sleep

all night due to the pain, that's when I was given cymbalta and

percocet, cause I called the doctor's office crying in pain.

Sorry this is so involved, but these symptoms didn't even occur to me

to be statin-related until I found this and numerous sites and

articles about the " great cholesterol myth and Big Pharma con game. "

Who would think that going to your doctor would make your feel worse!

I am starting to wonder if taking diabetes oral medications can cause

your pancreas to burn it self out. I already have had to stop taking

Avandia due to painful edema. I took that for about 5 years and

started to worry about the heart concerns. I have lost 18 lbs. since

stopping Avandia, which was probably fluid. Pains I still had in my

thighs have disappeared now.

I was sent to this endo by my gp due to worsening hairloss. He was

more worried about my 208 TC and elevated blood glucose due to

stopping the Avandia.

Many of the doctor visits in the past were due to these chronic pain

conditions caused by statin-induce muscle damage. I am now suffering

from gallstones, and benign liver nodules. I wonder if these

conditions are caused by taking all these drugs.

Connie

> > > > > >Yes, I had the thyroid panel done, but I had to ask for

it.

> > TSH

> > > > was

> > > > > >normal as were the others T3, T4, whatever was in

> the " thyroid

> > > > panel. "

> > > > > >Also, a derm is checking other hormones testosterone,

> > prolactin,

> > > > > >DHEAS, Vit D, zinc, etc. Maybe something else will show

up.

> > > > > >Thanks, Connie

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Connie, some of the symptoms you describe sound like you may

be hypothyroid. Go to this website:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ and read it. Many doctors do

not understand the importance of the thyroid and leave their patients

underprescribed.

Gene

At 03:15 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote:

Bobby, I don't believe I ever

addressed your question about why I

keep visiting the doctor. I see my gp every 4 months due to type 2

diabetes, most likely due to heredity, I've been told. My father

developed type 2 in his early 40's, about the same age I did. Since I

had that in my family history, my gynecologist started checking me

for diabetes during my yearly check-ups. My mother also had

cholesterol over 300.

When my sugar started going up, I was told to follow up with my gp,

who recommended diet and exercise. I lost 10 lbs. and was down to

145 lbs., but that made no differance in the sugar levels. He also

said diabetics are more prone to heart disease and he started

checking my cholesterol levels. When my TC crept up over 200, he

prescribed 10 mg of Zocor. I started in Dec. of 2001, and within 3

months, I developed tennis elbow and knee pains. The muscle pains

started as a result of physical therapy for the tennis elbow, which

was from a repititous job I was told. I quit the job, no relief of

pain. The weight-lifting and resistance bands during the last

round

of P/T in fall of 2006 caused biciptal tendonitis (the physical

therapist diagnosed this.) The P/T was toned down, but the biceps

pain continued for 4 months. I had been prescribed anti-

imflammatories, muscle relaxers, anti-depressants, darvocet for

daytime and percocet for nightime pain, these all started 3 months

after begining the Zocor. I felt like a walking pharmacy. I have

also had at least 8 cortisone injections in numerous painful joints,

which x-rays showed mild arthritis.

When I got jury duty last March, I felt I could not serve due to all

the drugs I was taking, I was also developing brainfog and

insominia. I went to my gp and asked if the on-going pain could be

from the Zocor. I started listening to the Lipitor commercials that

warned of " unexplained muscle pain or weakness, that could be the

sign of a serious side effect and to talk to your doctor. " At this

point my TC was down to 167, good my gp told me. CPK levels were

normal, although I was diagnosed with myositis (muscle

imflammation.)

I wonder how that happened!

When he said to stop the Zocor, the 4 months of arm pain went away.

Then my mind started to clear and I started sleeping longer than 2

hours at a time. I was feeling better than I had in years. A month

later my TC went up to 232, so pg prescribes 5 mg of Crestor. I

took

one tablet and developed wide-spread muscle pain, and couldn't sleep

all night due to the pain, that's when I was given cymbalta and

percocet, cause I called the doctor's office crying in pain.

Sorry this is so involved, but these symptoms didn't even occur to me

to be statin-related until I found this and numerous sites and

articles about the " great cholesterol myth and Big Pharma con

game. "

Who would think that going to your doctor would make your feel

worse!

I am starting to wonder if taking diabetes oral medications can cause

your pancreas to burn it self out. I already have had to stop taking

Avandia due to painful edema. I took that for about 5 years and

started to worry about the heart concerns. I have lost 18 lbs.

since

stopping Avandia, which was probably fluid. Pains I still had in my

thighs have disappeared now.

I was sent to this endo by my gp due to worsening hairloss. He was

more worried about my 208 TC and elevated blood glucose due to

stopping the Avandia.

Many of the doctor visits in the past were due to these chronic pain

conditions caused by statin-induce muscle damage. I am now suffering

from gallstones, and benign liver nodules. I wonder if these

conditions are caused by taking all these drugs.

Connie

[Guest guest]

Gene, I have an appointment with another endo closer to my home next

Friday. I had originally called this one in July and Oct. 10 was the

first opening, that's why I asked my gp for another endo's name cause

I didn't want to wait that long to have some tests done. I hope she

looks at the labs I have already had done and decides there are some

that weren't done that should have been, like the Free T3 you andd

Bobby suggested and was not done for me. Oh, what is Hg toxicity? I

don't know what the Hg means.

Connie

> >Bobby, I don't believe I ever addressed your question about why I

> >keep visiting the doctor. I see my gp every 4 months due to type 2

> >diabetes, most likely due to heredity, I've been told. My father

> >developed type 2 in his early 40's, about the same age I did.

Since I

> >had that in my family history, my gynecologist started checking me

> >for diabetes during my yearly check-ups. My mother also had

> >cholesterol over 300.

> >

> >When my sugar started going up, I was told to follow up with my gp,

> >who recommended diet and exercise. I lost 10 lbs. and was down to

> >145 lbs., but that made no differance in the sugar levels. He also

> >said diabetics are more prone to heart disease and he started

> >checking my cholesterol levels. When my TC crept up over 200, he

> >prescribed 10 mg of Zocor. I started in Dec. of 2001, and within 3

> >months, I developed tennis elbow and knee pains. The muscle pains

> >started as a result of physical therapy for the tennis elbow, which

> >was from a repititous job I was told. I quit the job, no relief of

> >pain. The weight-lifting and resistance bands during the last

round

> >of P/T in fall of 2006 caused biciptal tendonitis (the physical

> >therapist diagnosed this.) The P/T was toned down, but the biceps

> >pain continued for 4 months. I had been prescribed anti-

> >imflammatories, muscle relaxers, anti-depressants, darvocet for

> >daytime and percocet for nightime pain, these all started 3 months

> >after begining the Zocor. I felt like a walking pharmacy. I have

> >also had at least 8 cortisone injections in numerous painful

joints,

> >which x-rays showed mild arthritis.

> >

> >When I got jury duty last March, I felt I could not serve due to

all

> >the drugs I was taking, I was also developing brainfog and

> >insominia. I went to my gp and asked if the on-going pain could be

> >from the Zocor. I started listening to the Lipitor commercials

that

> >warned of " unexplained muscle pain or weakness, that could be the

> >sign of a serious side effect and to talk to your doctor. " At this

> >point my TC was down to 167, good my gp told me. CPK levels were

> >normal, although I was diagnosed with myositis (muscle

imflammation.)

> >I wonder how that happened!

> >

> >When he said to stop the Zocor, the 4 months of arm pain went away.

> >Then my mind started to clear and I started sleeping longer than 2

> >hours at a time. I was feeling better than I had in years. A month

> >later my TC went up to 232, so pg prescribes 5 mg of Crestor. I

took

> >one tablet and developed wide-spread muscle pain, and couldn't

sleep

> >all night due to the pain, that's when I was given cymbalta and

> >percocet, cause I called the doctor's office crying in pain.

> >

> >Sorry this is so involved, but these symptoms didn't even occur to

me

> >to be statin-related until I found this and numerous sites and

> >articles about the " great cholesterol myth and Big Pharma con

game. "

> >Who would think that going to your doctor would make your feel

worse!

> >

> >I am starting to wonder if taking diabetes oral medications can

cause

> >your pancreas to burn it self out. I already have had to stop

taking

> >Avandia due to painful edema. I took that for about 5 years and

> >started to worry about the heart concerns. I have lost 18 lbs.

since

> >stopping Avandia, which was probably fluid. Pains I still had in

my

> >thighs have disappeared now.

> >

> >I was sent to this endo by my gp due to worsening hairloss. He was

> >more worried about my 208 TC and elevated blood glucose due to

> >stopping the Avandia.

> >

> >Many of the doctor visits in the past were due to these chronic

pain

> >conditions caused by statin-induce muscle damage. I am now

suffering

> >from gallstones, and benign liver nodules. I wonder if these

> >conditions are caused by taking all these drugs.

> >

> >Connie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Connie, I can't explain this but endos don't seem to be

the ones that can solve thyroid problems. Here is a website that can give

you some information:

http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/index.htm

and here is a Group that is about thyroid problems:

NaturalThyroidHormones/ There

are also local thyroid groups in some areas, and they can give you good

local information. That is how I found my current doctor who is also

hypothyroid and therefore understands the problems.

You need to find a doctor that will listen to you and understand your

symptoms, and not just go on the TSH number. The tests you need are Free

T3 and Free T4. You will want to use Armour Thyroid and have your T3 near

the upper limit of the range. My T3 is above the maximum and I am feeling

better than I have in years. It is not easy to find a good doctor that

understands the thyroid, but when you do, it is really good.

Good luck,

Gene

At 03:49 PM 9/30/2008, you wrote:

Gene, I have an appointment with

another endo closer to my home next

Friday. I had originally called this one in July and Oct. 10 was

the

first opening, that's why I asked my gp for another endo's name cause

I didn't want to wait that long to have some tests done. I hope she

looks at the labs I have already had done and decides there are some

that weren't done that should have been, like the Free T3 you andd

Bobby suggested and was not done for me. Oh, what is Hg toxicity? I

don't know what the Hg means.

Connie

>

> Connie, some of the symptoms you describe sound like you may be

> hypothyroid. Go to this website:

>

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ and read it. Many doctors do

> not understand the importance of the thyroid and leave their

patients

> underprescribed.

>

> Gene

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Connie, I can't explain this but endos don't seem to be

the ones that can solve thyroid problems. Here is a website that can give

you some information:

http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/index.htm

and here is a Group that is about thyroid problems:

NaturalThyroidHormones/ There

are also local thyroid groups in some areas, and they can give you good

local information. That is how I found my current doctor who is also

hypothyroid and therefore understands the problems.

You need to find a doctor that will listen to you and understand your

symptoms, and not just go on the TSH number. The tests you need are Free

T3 and Free T4. You will want to use Armour Thyroid and have your T3 near

the upper limit of the range. My T3 is above the maximum and I am feeling

better than I have in years. It is not easy to find a good doctor that

understands the thyroid, but when you do, it is really good.

Good luck,

Gene

At 03:49 PM 9/30/2008, you wrote:

Gene, I have an appointment with

another endo closer to my home next

Friday. I had originally called this one in July and Oct. 10 was

the

first opening, that's why I asked my gp for another endo's name cause

I didn't want to wait that long to have some tests done. I hope she

looks at the labs I have already had done and decides there are some

that weren't done that should have been, like the Free T3 you andd

Bobby suggested and was not done for me. Oh, what is Hg toxicity? I

don't know what the Hg means.

Connie

>

> Connie, some of the symptoms you describe sound like you may be

> hypothyroid. Go to this website:

>

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ and read it. Many doctors do

> not understand the importance of the thyroid and leave their

patients

> underprescribed.

>

> Gene

>

[Guest guest]

Connie, Hg is the chemical symbol for Mercury.JeffOn 30 Sep 2008, at 21:49, cls54721 wrote:Gene, I have an appointment with another endo closer to my home next Friday. I had originally called this one in July and Oct. 10 was the first opening, that's why I asked my gp for another endo's name cause I didn't want to wait that long to have some tests done. I hope she looks at the labs I have already had done and decides there are some that weren't done that should have been, like the Free T3 you andd Bobby suggested and was not done for me. Oh, what is Hg toxicity? I don't know what the Hg means.Connie> >Bobby, I don't believe I ever addressed your question about why I> >keep visiting the doctor. I see my gp every 4 months due to type 2> >diabetes, most likely due to heredity, I've been told. My father> >developed type 2 in his early 40's, about the same age I did. Since I> >had that in my family history, my gynecologist started checking me> >for diabetes during my yearly check-ups. My mother also had> >cholesterol over 300.> >> >When my sugar started going up, I was told to follow up with my gp,> >who recommended diet and exercise. I lost 10 lbs. and was down to> >145 lbs., but that made no differance in the sugar levels. He also> >said diabetics are more prone to heart disease and he started> >checking my cholesterol levels. When my TC crept up over 200, he> >prescribed 10 mg of Zocor. I started in Dec. of 2001, and within 3> >months, I developed tennis elbow and knee pains. The muscle pains> >started as a result of physical therapy for the tennis elbow, which> >was from a repititous job I was told. I quit the job, no relief of> >pain. The weight-lifting and resistance bands during the last round> >of P/T in fall of 2006 caused biciptal tendonitis (the physical> >therapist diagnosed this.) The P/T was toned down, but the biceps> >pain continued for 4 months. I had been prescribed anti-> >imflammatories, muscle relaxers, anti-depressants, darvocet for> >daytime and percocet for nightime pain, these all started 3 months> >after begining the Zocor. I felt like a walking pharmacy. I have> >also had at least 8 cortisone injections in numerous painful joints,> >which x-rays showed mild arthritis.> >> >When I got jury duty last March, I felt I could not serve due to all> >the drugs I was taking, I was also developing brainfog and> >insominia. I went to my gp and asked if the on-going pain could be> >from the Zocor. I started listening to the Lipitor commercials that> >warned of "unexplained muscle pain or weakness, that could be the> >sign of a serious side effect and to talk to your doctor." At this> >point my TC was down to 167, good my gp told me. CPK levels were> >normal, although I was diagnosed with myositis (muscle imflammation.)> >I wonder how that happened!> >> >When he said to stop the Zocor, the 4 months of arm pain went away.> >Then my mind started to clear and I started sleeping longer than 2> >hours at a time. I was feeling better than I had in years. A month> >later my TC went up to 232, so pg prescribes 5 mg of Crestor. I took> >one tablet and developed wide-spread muscle pain, and couldn't sleep> >all night due to the pain, that's when I was given cymbalta and> >percocet, cause I called the doctor's office crying in pain.> >> >Sorry this is so involved, but these symptoms didn't even occur to me> >to be statin-related until I found this and numerous sites and> >articles about the "great cholesterol myth and Big Pharma con game."> >Who would think that going to your doctor would make your feel worse!> >> >I am starting to wonder if taking diabetes oral medications can cause> >your pancreas to burn it self out. I already have had to stop taking> >Avandia due to painful edema. I took that for about 5 years and> >started to worry about the heart concerns. I have lost 18 lbs. since> >stopping Avandia, which was probably fluid. Pains I still had in my> >thighs have disappeared now.> >> >I was sent to this endo by my gp due to worsening hairloss. He was> >more worried about my 208 TC and elevated blood glucose due to> >stopping the Avandia.> >> >Many of the doctor visits in the past were due to these chronic pain> >conditions caused by statin-induce muscle damage. I am now suffering> >from gallstones, and benign liver nodules. I wonder if these> >conditions are caused by taking all these drugs.> >> >Connie>

[Guest guest]

Hg is mercury. We ALL have a certain amount of mercury in our bodies.

It occurs naturally in the environment. Hg toxicity usually occurs

from over consumption of certain fishes, such as Tuna and other

varieties. A simple blood test can confirm if your levels are too

high.

Bobby

> > >Bobby, I don't believe I ever addressed your question about why I

> > >keep visiting the doctor. I see my gp every 4 months due to

type 2

> > >diabetes, most likely due to heredity, I've been told. My father

> > >developed type 2 in his early 40's, about the same age I did.

> Since I

> > >had that in my family history, my gynecologist started checking

me

> > >for diabetes during my yearly check-ups. My mother also had

> > >cholesterol over 300.

> > >

> > >When my sugar started going up, I was told to follow up with my

gp,

> > >who recommended diet and exercise. I lost 10 lbs. and was down

to

> > >145 lbs., but that made no differance in the sugar levels. He

also

> > >said diabetics are more prone to heart disease and he started

> > >checking my cholesterol levels. When my TC crept up over 200, he

> > >prescribed 10 mg of Zocor. I started in Dec. of 2001, and

within 3

> > >months, I developed tennis elbow and knee pains. The muscle

pains

> > >started as a result of physical therapy for the tennis elbow,

which

> > >was from a repititous job I was told. I quit the job, no relief

of

> > >pain. The weight-lifting and resistance bands during the last

> round

> > >of P/T in fall of 2006 caused biciptal tendonitis (the physical

> > >therapist diagnosed this.) The P/T was toned down, but the

biceps

> > >pain continued for 4 months. I had been prescribed anti-

> > >imflammatories, muscle relaxers, anti-depressants, darvocet for

> > >daytime and percocet for nightime pain, these all started 3

months

> > >after begining the Zocor. I felt like a walking pharmacy. I have

> > >also had at least 8 cortisone injections in numerous painful

> joints,

> > >which x-rays showed mild arthritis.

> > >

> > >When I got jury duty last March, I felt I could not serve due to

> all

> > >the drugs I was taking, I was also developing brainfog and

> > >insominia. I went to my gp and asked if the on-going pain could

be

> > >from the Zocor. I started listening to the Lipitor commercials

> that

> > >warned of " unexplained muscle pain or weakness, that could be the

> > >sign of a serious side effect and to talk to your doctor. " At

this

> > >point my TC was down to 167, good my gp told me. CPK levels were

> > >normal, although I was diagnosed with myositis (muscle

> imflammation.)

> > >I wonder how that happened!

> > >

> > >When he said to stop the Zocor, the 4 months of arm pain went

away.

> > >Then my mind started to clear and I started sleeping longer than

2

> > >hours at a time. I was feeling better than I had in years. A

month

> > >later my TC went up to 232, so pg prescribes 5 mg of Crestor. I

> took

> > >one tablet and developed wide-spread muscle pain, and couldn't

> sleep

> > >all night due to the pain, that's when I was given cymbalta and

> > >percocet, cause I called the doctor's office crying in pain.

> > >

> > >Sorry this is so involved, but these symptoms didn't even occur

to

> me

> > >to be statin-related until I found this and numerous sites and

> > >articles about the " great cholesterol myth and Big Pharma con

> game. "

> > >Who would think that going to your doctor would make your feel

> worse!

> > >

> > >I am starting to wonder if taking diabetes oral medications can

> cause

> > >your pancreas to burn it self out. I already have had to stop

> taking

> > >Avandia due to painful edema. I took that for about 5 years and

> > >started to worry about the heart concerns. I have lost 18 lbs.

> since

> > >stopping Avandia, which was probably fluid. Pains I still had

in

> my

> > >thighs have disappeared now.

> > >

> > >I was sent to this endo by my gp due to worsening hairloss. He

was

> > >more worried about my 208 TC and elevated blood glucose due to

> > >stopping the Avandia.

> > >

> > >Many of the doctor visits in the past were due to these chronic

> pain

> > >conditions caused by statin-induce muscle damage. I am now

> suffering

> > >from gallstones, and benign liver nodules. I wonder if these

> > >conditions are caused by taking all these drugs.

> > >

> > >Connie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Very well could be hypoythyroidism. Remember, lipid metabolism is governed via thyroid hormone. If thyroid hormone is low, then cholesterol will increase. There are no less than 150 different symptoms of low thyroid since evrey cell in your body uses thryroid hormone. Hypothyroidism has ben called the great imitator of all diseases. Once females are in midlife, its important to keep a close eye on this. By the time females pass 65 years old. 16% are hypothyroid.

Bobbyhttp://geocities.com/flyinresorts/blog.html

Bobby, I don't believe I ever addressed your question about why I keep visiting the doctor. I see my gp every 4 months due to type 2 diabetes, most likely due to heredity, I've been told. My father developed type 2 in his early 40's, about the same age I did. Since I had that in my family history, my gynecologist started checking me for diabetes during my yearly check-ups. My mother also had cholesterol over 300. When my sugar started going up, I was told to follow up with my gp, who recommended diet and exercise. I lost 10 lbs. and was down to 145 lbs., but that made no differance in the sugar levels. He also said diabetics are more prone to heart disease and he started checking my cholesterol levels. When my TC crept up over 200, he prescribed 10 mg of Zocor. I started in Dec. of 2001, and within 3 months, I developed tennis elbow

and knee pains. The muscle pains started as a result of physical therapy for the tennis elbow, which was from a repititous job I was told. I quit the job, no relief of pain. The weight-lifting and resistance bands during the last round of P/T in fall of 2006 caused biciptal tendonitis (the physical therapist diagnosed this.) The P/T was toned down, but the biceps pain continued for 4 months. I had been prescribed anti-imflammatories, muscle relaxers, anti-depressants, darvocet for daytime and percocet for nightime pain, these all started 3 months after begining the Zocor. I felt like a walking pharmacy. I have also had at least 8 cortisone injections in numerous painful joints, which x-rays showed mild arthritis. When I got jury duty last March, I felt I could not serve due to all the drugs I was taking, I was also developing brainfog and

insominia. I went to my gp and asked if the on-going pain could be from the Zocor. I started listening to the Lipitor commercials that warned of "unexplained muscle pain or weakness, that could be the sign of a serious side effect and to talk to your doctor." At this point my TC was down to 167, good my gp told me. CPK levels were normal, although I was diagnosed with myositis (muscle imflammation. )I wonder how that happened!When he said to stop the Zocor, the 4 months of arm pain went away. Then my mind started to clear and I started sleeping longer than 2 hours at a time. I was feeling better than I had in years. A month later my TC went up to 232, so pg prescribes 5 mg of Crestor. I took one tablet and developed wide-spread muscle pain, and couldn't sleep all night due to the pain, that's when I was given cymbalta and percocet, cause I called the doctor's office

crying in pain. Sorry this is so involved, but these symptoms didn't even occur to me to be statin-related until I found this and numerous sites and articles about the "great cholesterol myth and Big Pharma con game." Who would think that going to your doctor would make your feel worse!I am starting to wonder if taking diabetes oral medications can cause your pancreas to burn it self out. I already have had to stop taking Avandia due to painful edema. I took that for about 5 years and started to worry about the heart concerns. I have lost 18 lbs. since stopping Avandia, which was probably fluid. Pains I still had in my thighs have disappeared now. I was sent to this endo by my gp due to worsening hairloss. He was more worried about my 208 TC and elevated blood glucose due to stopping the Avandia. Many of the doctor visits in the past were due to

these chronic pain conditions caused by statin-induce muscle damage. I am now suffering from gallstones, and benign liver nodules. I wonder if these conditions are caused by taking all these drugs.Connie

[Guest guest]

Gene is correct. You can't go on TSH alone. Need Ft4 and Ft3.

I asked an endo at the University of Texas what the ideal TSH is. She

replied " Between 1.0 and 2.0 "

WE are all different. I take armour thyroid and do better than on

Synthroid. My niece must take armour because T4 alone does not work

for her. On the other side of the coin I know people who do great on

Synthroid alone. I also know people who found their perfect balance

with Synthroid + 5 mcg Cytomel. And I know people who can't tolerate

armour. I guess we are all different and need to do what works best

in each individual case.

Bobby

> > >

> > > Connie, some of the symptoms you describe sound like you may be

> > > hypothyroid. Go to this website:

> > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ and read it. Many doctors

do

> > > not understand the importance of the thyroid and leave their

> >patients

> > > underprescribed.

> > >

> > > Gene

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Gene and everyone for your replies. The only problem I have

now is that I have an HMO through Aetna and I am having trouble

finding endos that take Aetna. I think they have a bad reputation as

far as I can tell, I guess they don't pay practioners timely, not

sure there. I know that everytime I need x-rays, ultrasounds or

mammograms, I can't go to my local hospital as their radiology dept.

won't accept Aetna HMO's. I need to go 10 miles further away.

Hopefully, this new endo will listen and if I ask her if I should

have the Free T3 test done she won't say, " where did you find out

about that, the Internet? " Many docs I have gone to make faces when

I tell them things I read on the Internet. If she doesn't want to

help further, then I am about ready to give up.

I have been taking the 10 mg of Zetia for over 2 months and have

developed left elbow joint pain, I am right handed so I am not

overusing it. Also, left knee pain has recurred and stiff and achy

neck, some upper arm soreness, too. My docs usually say, " remember,

now, you are 54 so you can expect this with aging. " I am going to

take it until my next labs next Wednesday to see what the results are

and then stop the Zetia to see if the aches and pains go away.

Can anyone explain how Zetia works or point me to a good article on

how Zetia works and the side effects? The other endo said that Zetia

shouldn't cause me the previous muscle problems since it works in the

absorption through the intestines not the liver. I read somewhere

that there is an increase risk of cancer because Zetia blocks

absorption of plant sterols. I though I read that plant sterols

protect you from cancer.

Connie

> > >

> > > Connie, some of the symptoms you describe sound like you may be

> > > hypothyroid. Go to this website:

> > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ and read it. Many doctors

do

> > > not understand the importance of the thyroid and leave their

> >patients

> > > underprescribed.

> > >

> > > Gene

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Gene and everyone for your replies. The only problem I have

now is that I have an HMO through Aetna and I am having trouble

finding endos that take Aetna. I think they have a bad reputation as

far as I can tell, I guess they don't pay practioners timely, not

sure there. I know that everytime I need x-rays, ultrasounds or

mammograms, I can't go to my local hospital as their radiology dept.

won't accept Aetna HMO's. I need to go 10 miles further away.

Hopefully, this new endo will listen and if I ask her if I should

have the Free T3 test done she won't say, " where did you find out

about that, the Internet? " Many docs I have gone to make faces when

I tell them things I read on the Internet. If she doesn't want to

help further, then I am about ready to give up.

I have been taking the 10 mg of Zetia for over 2 months and have

developed left elbow joint pain, I am right handed so I am not

overusing it. Also, left knee pain has recurred and stiff and achy

neck, some upper arm soreness, too. My docs usually say, " remember,

now, you are 54 so you can expect this with aging. " I am going to

take it until my next labs next Wednesday to see what the results are

and then stop the Zetia to see if the aches and pains go away.

Can anyone explain how Zetia works or point me to a good article on

how Zetia works and the side effects? The other endo said that Zetia

shouldn't cause me the previous muscle problems since it works in the

absorption through the intestines not the liver. I read somewhere

that there is an increase risk of cancer because Zetia blocks

absorption of plant sterols. I though I read that plant sterols

protect you from cancer.

Connie

> > >

> > > Connie, some of the symptoms you describe sound like you may be

> > > hypothyroid. Go to this website:

> > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ and read it. Many doctors

do

> > > not understand the importance of the thyroid and leave their

> >patients

> > > underprescribed.

> > >

> > > Gene

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Zetia(Ezetimibe) is mixed with Zocor (Simvastatin) in a drug called

vytorin which has failed in recent testing. This combination actually

increased plaque build up over time. Zetia has never been tested for

cardiovascular benefit, only that it lowers cholesterol. Cholesterol

lowering is called a surrogate endpoint with the assumption that

anything that lowers cholesterol must be good. This assumption is being

rethought due to recent testing results on vytorin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vytorin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zetia

I personally tried Zetia in the past before the above results and both

times it cut my total/HDL ratio down and lowered my HDL 10-15 points,

and unacceptable result. Given the recent study above, I would not

agree to take the drug at this time.

Steve

cls54721 wrote:

>

>

> Thanks, Gene and everyone for your replies. The only problem I have

> now is that I have an HMO through Aetna and I am having trouble

> finding endos that take Aetna. I think they have a bad reputation as

> far as I can tell, I guess they don't pay practioners timely, not

> sure there. I know that everytime I need x-rays, ultrasounds or

> mammograms, I can't go to my local hospital as their radiology dept.

> won't accept Aetna HMO's. I need to go 10 miles further away.

>

> Hopefully, this new endo will listen and if I ask her if I should

> have the Free T3 test done she won't say, " where did you find out

> about that, the Internet? " Many docs I have gone to make faces when

> I tell them things I read on the Internet. If she doesn't want to

> help further, then I am about ready to give up.

>

> I have been taking the 10 mg of Zetia for over 2 months and have

> developed left elbow joint pain, I am right handed so I am not

> overusing it. Also, left knee pain has recurred and stiff and achy

> neck, some upper arm soreness, too. My docs usually say, " remember,

> now, you are 54 so you can expect this with aging. " I am going to

> take it until my next labs next Wednesday to see what the results are

> and then stop the Zetia to see if the aches and pains go away.

>

> Can anyone explain how Zetia works or point me to a good article on

> how Zetia works and the side effects? The other endo said that Zetia

> shouldn't cause me the previous muscle problems since it works in the

> absorption through the intestines not the liver. I read somewhere

> that there is an increase risk of cancer because Zetia blocks

> absorption of plant sterols. I though I read that plant sterols

> protect you from cancer.

>

> Connie

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Connie, some of the symptoms you describe sound like you may be

> > > > hypothyroid. Go to this website:

> > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> and read it. Many doctors

> do

> > > > not understand the importance of the thyroid and leave their

> > >patients

> > > > underprescribed.

> > > >

> > > > Gene

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Connie, If this helps, you might mention to your new doctor that

University of Texas Southwestern Medical ceneter in Dallas always

runs FT3 when doing thyroid labs. All physicians have high respect

for UTSW Dallas.

Bobby

> > > >

> > > > Connie, some of the symptoms you describe sound like you may

be

> > > > hypothyroid. Go to this website:

> > > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ and read it. Many

doctors

> do

> > > > not understand the importance of the thyroid and leave their

> > >patients

> > > > underprescribed.

> > > >

> > > > Gene

> > > >

> >

>