Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Perhaps the same reason wolves howl when they hear other wolves? Perhaps they were getting upset by the noise? Inger Screaming kids I may have found someone who doesn't mind screaming kids: other little kids. Tonight I was out doing some shopping. Around me was a family with several very young children who were well behaved. Somewhere else in the store, a kid started screaming. By the third scream, the youngest of the family's kids started screaming every time the other kid screamed. Another scream or two and the other kid screamed too. By that time I had already vacated the area so I don't really know how long that went on, since I had checked out and was leaving. It would be interesting to find out why kids do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 My theory of why little kids screaming is so annoying to adults... Kids that screamed at a pitch that resonate with the adult ears and nervous systems attract the attention of care givers more quickly and therefore tend to survive longer and have a better chance to reproduce... On kids screaming when they hear other kids scream... Screaming kid means kid in trouble... once upon a time if a nearby kid was in trouble all the kids in the area were likely to be in the same trouble... So echoing the screams of other kids would tend to attract more care givers and there by be more likely to survive... Ender At 12:05 AM 1/26/2006, you wrote: Perhaps the same reason wolves howl when they hear other wolves? Perhaps they were getting upset by the noise? Inger Screaming kids I may have found someone who doesn't mind screaming kids: other little kids. Tonight I was out doing some shopping. Around me was a family with several very young children who were well behaved. Somewhere else in the store, a kid started screaming. By the third scream, the youngest of the family's kids started screaming every time the other kid screamed. Another scream or two and the other kid screamed too. By that time I had already vacated the area so I don't really know how long that went on, since I had checked out and was leaving. It would be interesting to find out why kids do that. FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hey, if we howl when we hear kids screaming will that shut them up? > > Perhaps the same reason wolves howl when they hear other wolves? Perhaps they were getting upset by the noise? > > Inger > > > Screaming kids > > > I may have found someone who doesn't mind screaming kids: other little kids. Tonight I was out doing some shopping. Around me was a family with several very young children who were well behaved. Somewhere else in the store, a kid started screaming. By the third scream, the youngest of the family's kids started screaming every time the other kid screamed. Another scream or two and the other kid screamed too. By that time I had already vacated the area so I don't really know how long that went on, since I had checked out and was leaving. > > It would be interesting to find out why kids do that. > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hey, if we howl when we hear kids screaming will that shut them up? > > Perhaps the same reason wolves howl when they hear other wolves? Perhaps they were getting upset by the noise? > > Inger > > > Screaming kids > > > I may have found someone who doesn't mind screaming kids: other little kids. Tonight I was out doing some shopping. Around me was a family with several very young children who were well behaved. Somewhere else in the store, a kid started screaming. By the third scream, the youngest of the family's kids started screaming every time the other kid screamed. Another scream or two and the other kid screamed too. By that time I had already vacated the area so I don't really know how long that went on, since I had checked out and was leaving. > > It would be interesting to find out why kids do that. > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 In a message dated 1/26/2006 10:27:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mikecarrie01@... writes: Hey, if we howl when we hear kids screaming will that shut them up? There was a commerical not long ago that had a woman in the grocery with her little son. He wanted something and she said no. He started to throw a tantrum when the mother let out a scream and threw a tantrum probably just like he normally did. She jumped around, fell on the ground kicking and rolling and screaming then stood up again. The boy put the thing back on the shelf. They must not have told the boy what was going to happen because of his expression. There is no way that he could have faked or "acted" THAT shocked and horrified all in one expression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 ender, Good theory on both counts. There was a story about while about some naturalist who liked living amongst grizzly bears and even said he wouldn't mind being eaten by one. well, that finally happened and I guess he didn't like it too much. His girlfriend was not touched, however, her post attack screams were heard on tape and those screams brought the bear back and it attacked and killed her. Predators are drawn to the distress cries of animals because it means they will have an easier meal, an already injured or distressed animal, than a healthy one. Kind of a double-edged sword there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 ender, Good theory on both counts. There was a story about while about some naturalist who liked living amongst grizzly bears and even said he wouldn't mind being eaten by one. well, that finally happened and I guess he didn't like it too much. His girlfriend was not touched, however, her post attack screams were heard on tape and those screams brought the bear back and it attacked and killed her. Predators are drawn to the distress cries of animals because it means they will have an easier meal, an already injured or distressed animal, than a healthy one. Kind of a double-edged sword there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 In a message dated 1/26/2006 4:34:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mikecarrie01@... writes: LOL! I think the entire store would go quiet, then the men in the white suits would quickly and quietly come up behind me and take me away! Reminds me of an old song. Here are the lyrics. They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-haaa! Remember when you ran awayAnd I got on my kneesAnd begged you not to leaveBecause I'd go berserk?Well. . .You left me anyhowAnd then the days got worse and worseAnd now you see I've goneCompletely out of my mindAnd. . .They're coming to take me away, HA HAThey're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HATo the funny farmWhere life is beautiful all the timeAnd I'll be happy to seeThose nice, young menIn their clean, white coatsAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!You thought it was a jokeAnd so you laughedYou laughed when I had saidThat losing you would make me flip my lidRight. . .You know you laughed, I heard you laughYou laughed, you laughed and laughedAnd then you leftBut now you know I'm utterly mad!And. . .They're coming to take me away, HA HAThey're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HATo the happy homeWith trees and flowers and chirping birdsAnd basket weavers who sit and smileAnd twiddle their thumbs and toesAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!I cooked your foodI cleaned your houseAnd this is how you pay me backFor all my kind, unselfish loving deeds?!!Hah. . .Well you just waitThey'll find you yetAnd when they do they'llPut you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!And. . .They're coming to take me away, HA HAThey're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HATo the funny farmWhere life is beautiful all the timeAnd I'll be happy to seeThose nice, young menIn their clean, white coatsAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!To the happy homeWith trees and flowers and chirping birdsAnd basket weavers who sit and smileAnd twiddle their thumbs and toesAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!To the funny farmWhere life is beautiful all the timeAnd I'll be happy to seeThose nice, young menIn their clean, white coatsAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 In a message dated 1/26/2006 4:34:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mikecarrie01@... writes: LOL! I think the entire store would go quiet, then the men in the white suits would quickly and quietly come up behind me and take me away! Reminds me of an old song. Here are the lyrics. They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-haaa! Remember when you ran awayAnd I got on my kneesAnd begged you not to leaveBecause I'd go berserk?Well. . .You left me anyhowAnd then the days got worse and worseAnd now you see I've goneCompletely out of my mindAnd. . .They're coming to take me away, HA HAThey're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HATo the funny farmWhere life is beautiful all the timeAnd I'll be happy to seeThose nice, young menIn their clean, white coatsAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!You thought it was a jokeAnd so you laughedYou laughed when I had saidThat losing you would make me flip my lidRight. . .You know you laughed, I heard you laughYou laughed, you laughed and laughedAnd then you leftBut now you know I'm utterly mad!And. . .They're coming to take me away, HA HAThey're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HATo the happy homeWith trees and flowers and chirping birdsAnd basket weavers who sit and smileAnd twiddle their thumbs and toesAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!I cooked your foodI cleaned your houseAnd this is how you pay me backFor all my kind, unselfish loving deeds?!!Hah. . .Well you just waitThey'll find you yetAnd when they do they'llPut you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!And. . .They're coming to take me away, HA HAThey're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HATo the funny farmWhere life is beautiful all the timeAnd I'll be happy to seeThose nice, young menIn their clean, white coatsAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!To the happy homeWith trees and flowers and chirping birdsAnd basket weavers who sit and smileAnd twiddle their thumbs and toesAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!To the funny farmWhere life is beautiful all the timeAnd I'll be happy to seeThose nice, young menIn their clean, white coatsAnd they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 >: "Hey, if we howl when we hear kids screaming will that shut them up?"Please let us know how well this procedure works, will you? Â Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 My folks pretty much ignored my few tantrums too. After a while I stopped doing it. It also helped when I realized what a fool I looked like doing it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 In a message dated 1/26/2006 8:00:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, inglori@... writes: > My folks pretty much ignored my few tantrums too. After a while I stopped doing it. It also helped when I realized what a fool I looked like doing it too. LOL! Inger This is true. My mother said "look at all these people looking at you" when I had a tantrum once. I actually did look around and saw how they were looking at me. That was enough and I never did it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 LOL! I think the entire store would go quiet, then the men in the white suits would quickly and quietly come up behind me and take me away! > > >: " Hey, if we howl when we hear kids screaming will that shut > them up? " > > Please let us know how well this procedure works, will you? > > Rainbow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I've seen that commercial - I found it hillarous - I used to do something similar with kids myself - if they screamed I would scream back, but louder - used to shut them up and the look of surprise on their faces that an adult would scream back was priceless - the element of surprise :-) Some other tactics that have worked on my son's tantrums - not giving into the tantrum (obviously) and another one I just calmly waited until he paused and asked him calmly if he had finished. Another time I just walked off (done that one a few times actually) often it is just an attention seeking ploy and I will not reward bad behaviour with attention - there are other ways to get attention he has learnt - but I only do the walking off one if it is safe. Do you all think I am a cold hearted evil mother yet? I'm not btw :-) > > > In a message dated 1/26/2006 10:27:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mikecarrie01@y... writes: > > Hey, if we howl when we hear kids screaming will that shut them up? > > > > There was a commerical not long ago that had a woman in the grocery with her > little son. He wanted something and she said no. He started to throw a > tantrum when the mother let out a scream and threw a tantrum probably just like he > normally did. She jumped around, fell on the ground kicking and rolling and > screaming then stood up again. The boy put the thing back on the shelf. They > must not have told the boy what was going to happen because of his expression. > There is no way that he could have faked or " acted " THAT shocked and > horrified all in one expression. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I've seen that commercial - I found it hillarous - I used to do something similar with kids myself - if they screamed I would scream back, but louder - used to shut them up and the look of surprise on their faces that an adult would scream back was priceless - the element of surprise :-) Some other tactics that have worked on my son's tantrums - not giving into the tantrum (obviously) and another one I just calmly waited until he paused and asked him calmly if he had finished. Another time I just walked off (done that one a few times actually) often it is just an attention seeking ploy and I will not reward bad behaviour with attention - there are other ways to get attention he has learnt - but I only do the walking off one if it is safe. Do you all think I am a cold hearted evil mother yet? I'm not btw :-) > > > In a message dated 1/26/2006 10:27:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mikecarrie01@y... writes: > > Hey, if we howl when we hear kids screaming will that shut them up? > > > > There was a commerical not long ago that had a woman in the grocery with her > little son. He wanted something and she said no. He started to throw a > tantrum when the mother let out a scream and threw a tantrum probably just like he > normally did. She jumped around, fell on the ground kicking and rolling and > screaming then stood up again. The boy put the thing back on the shelf. They > must not have told the boy what was going to happen because of his expression. > There is no way that he could have faked or " acted " THAT shocked and > horrified all in one expression. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 : > Some other tactics that have worked on my son's tantrums - not giving into the tantrum (obviously) and another one I just calmly waited until he paused and asked him calmly if he had finished. Another time I just walked off (done that one a few times actually) often it is just an attention seeking ploy and I will not reward bad behaviour with attention - there are other ways to get attention he has learnt -but I only do the walking off one if it is safe. >> Do you all think I am a cold hearted evil mother yet? I'm not btw :-) No, it sounds like you're a great mom. : > My folks pretty much ignored my few tantrums too. After a while I stopped doing it. It also helped when I realized what a fool I looked like doing it too. LOL! Inger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Unfortunately I can relate to some of this right now :-( the lyrics > > > In a message dated 1/26/2006 4:34:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mikecarrie01@y... writes: > > LOL! I think the entire store would go quiet, then the men in the white > suits would quickly and quietly come up behind me and take me away! > > > > Reminds me of an old song. Here are the lyrics. > > > > > They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-haaa! > Remember when you ran away > And I got on my knees > And begged you not to leave > Because I'd go berserk? > Well. . . > > You left me anyhow > And then the days got worse and worse > And now you see I've gone > Completely out of my mind > And. . . > > They're coming to take me away, HA HA > They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA > To the funny farm > Where life is beautiful all the time > And I'll be happy to see > Those nice, young men > In their clean, white coats > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > You thought it was a joke > And so you laughed > You laughed when I had said > That losing you would make me flip my lid > Right. . . > > You know you laughed, I heard you laugh > You laughed, you laughed and laughed > And then you left > But now you know I'm utterly mad! > And. . . > > They're coming to take me away, HA HA > They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA > To the happy home > With trees and flowers and chirping birds > And basket weavers who sit and smile > And twiddle their thumbs and toes > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > I cooked your food > I cleaned your house > And this is how you pay me back > For all my kind, unselfish loving deeds?!! > Hah. . . > > Well you just wait > They'll find you yet > And when they do they'll > Put you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt! > And. . . > > They're coming to take me away, HA HA > They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA > To the funny farm > Where life is beautiful all the time > And I'll be happy to see > Those nice, young men > In their clean, white coats > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > To the happy home > With trees and flowers and chirping birds > And basket weavers who sit and smile > And twiddle their thumbs and toes > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > To the funny farm > Where life is beautiful all the time > And I'll be happy to see > Those nice, young men > In their clean, white coats > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Unfortunately I can relate to some of this right now :-( the lyrics > > > In a message dated 1/26/2006 4:34:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mikecarrie01@y... writes: > > LOL! I think the entire store would go quiet, then the men in the white > suits would quickly and quietly come up behind me and take me away! > > > > Reminds me of an old song. Here are the lyrics. > > > > > They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-haaa! > Remember when you ran away > And I got on my knees > And begged you not to leave > Because I'd go berserk? > Well. . . > > You left me anyhow > And then the days got worse and worse > And now you see I've gone > Completely out of my mind > And. . . > > They're coming to take me away, HA HA > They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA > To the funny farm > Where life is beautiful all the time > And I'll be happy to see > Those nice, young men > In their clean, white coats > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > You thought it was a joke > And so you laughed > You laughed when I had said > That losing you would make me flip my lid > Right. . . > > You know you laughed, I heard you laugh > You laughed, you laughed and laughed > And then you left > But now you know I'm utterly mad! > And. . . > > They're coming to take me away, HA HA > They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA > To the happy home > With trees and flowers and chirping birds > And basket weavers who sit and smile > And twiddle their thumbs and toes > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > I cooked your food > I cleaned your house > And this is how you pay me back > For all my kind, unselfish loving deeds?!! > Hah. . . > > Well you just wait > They'll find you yet > And when they do they'll > Put you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt! > And. . . > > They're coming to take me away, HA HA > They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA > To the funny farm > Where life is beautiful all the time > And I'll be happy to see > Those nice, young men > In their clean, white coats > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > To the happy home > With trees and flowers and chirping birds > And basket weavers who sit and smile > And twiddle their thumbs and toes > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > To the funny farm > Where life is beautiful all the time > And I'll be happy to see > Those nice, young men > In their clean, white coats > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 That's great! Too bad people are too embarrassed to actually do something like that. They're also afraid social services will take their child away if they dare do anything. > > > In a message dated 1/26/2006 10:27:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mikecarrie01@y... writes: > > Hey, if we howl when we hear kids screaming will that shut them up? > > > > There was a commerical not long ago that had a woman in the grocery with her > little son. He wanted something and she said no. He started to throw a > tantrum when the mother let out a scream and threw a tantrum probably just like he > normally did. She jumped around, fell on the ground kicking and rolling and > screaming then stood up again. The boy put the thing back on the shelf. They > must not have told the boy what was going to happen because of his expression. > There is no way that he could have faked or " acted " THAT shocked and > horrified all in one expression. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Oh my goodness! > > > In a message dated 1/26/2006 4:34:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mikecarrie01@y... writes: > > LOL! I think the entire store would go quiet, then the men in the white > suits would quickly and quietly come up behind me and take me away! > > > > Reminds me of an old song. Here are the lyrics. > > > > > They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-haaa! > Remember when you ran away > And I got on my knees > And begged you not to leave > Because I'd go berserk? > Well. . . > > You left me anyhow > And then the days got worse and worse > And now you see I've gone > Completely out of my mind > And. . . > > They're coming to take me away, HA HA > They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA > To the funny farm > Where life is beautiful all the time > And I'll be happy to see > Those nice, young men > In their clean, white coats > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > You thought it was a joke > And so you laughed > You laughed when I had said > That losing you would make me flip my lid > Right. . . > > You know you laughed, I heard you laugh > You laughed, you laughed and laughed > And then you left > But now you know I'm utterly mad! > And. . . > > They're coming to take me away, HA HA > They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA > To the happy home > With trees and flowers and chirping birds > And basket weavers who sit and smile > And twiddle their thumbs and toes > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > I cooked your food > I cleaned your house > And this is how you pay me back > For all my kind, unselfish loving deeds?!! > Hah. . . > > Well you just wait > They'll find you yet > And when they do they'll > Put you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt! > And. . . > > They're coming to take me away, HA HA > They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA > To the funny farm > Where life is beautiful all the time > And I'll be happy to see > Those nice, young men > In their clean, white coats > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > To the happy home > With trees and flowers and chirping birds > And basket weavers who sit and smile > And twiddle their thumbs and toes > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > > To the funny farm > Where life is beautiful all the time > And I'll be happy to see > Those nice, young men > In their clean, white coats > And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 That's great, . It sounds like you are a great mother. > > > > > > In a message dated 1/26/2006 10:27:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > mikecarrie01@y... writes: > > > > Hey, if we howl when we hear kids screaming will that shut them > up? > > > > > > > > There was a commerical not long ago that had a woman in the grocery > with her > > little son. He wanted something and she said no. He started to > throw a > > tantrum when the mother let out a scream and threw a tantrum > probably just like he > > normally did. She jumped around, fell on the ground kicking and > rolling and > > screaming then stood up again. The boy put the thing back on the > shelf. They > > must not have told the boy what was going to happen because of his > expression. > > There is no way that he could have faked or " acted " THAT shocked > and > > horrified all in one expression. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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