Re: Re: Liver Enzyme Systems and Drug Intolerance and Interactions

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,

Can you tell whether the following medications are on that list?

Beta blockers

ACE Inhibitors

Allipurinol ( gout buster)

Thyroid meds

Penicillin

My father has been on this garbage for at least 4 years and I am trying

to convince my family that he doesn't have Alzheimers but overload.

Through mix-ups, he didn't have any meds for 2 days and he was quite

lucid. BUT my family still doesn't get it..the tie-up bewtween drugs and

foggy brain.

Do they talk about 'sulphation' in the book? Neurotransmitters and

endotoxins and DRUGS need to be sulphated before they can be excreted.

jlkinkona schrieb:

>

> Thanks . The list shows almost 80 drugs including grapefruit.

> Funny how they tell the patients who are on statins NOT to eat

> grapefruit but never caution about all the rest of the drugs that may

> be using the same pathway as statins that could be causing a toxic

> overload to the liver especially for elderly patients.

> phine

>

>

> >

> > A while back I mentioned in a post a reference to Dr. Ray Strand's

> book, Death by Prescription, in which he describes the dangers of

> taking two or more drugs that utilize the same liver enzyme system for

> metabolization. One problem is that not everyone's enzyme systems have

> the same capacity for metabolizing drugs, and another is that when two

> or more drugs require the same system, there is the potential for

> overload, which equals overdose. I wanted to include in my post Dr.

> Strand's list of the drugs that use the same system as statins, but at

> the time I realized I'd lent the book to someone and my statin-addled

> brain could not remember who. Hurray, my friend who's had it all

> along, had forgotten that she had not returned it, but when she ran

> across it this week, she brought it back to me.

> >

> > One thing that was of particular interest to me was that this

> Cytochrome P450 System, which breaks down statins, is also necessary

> for the metabolization of several other drugs that I have never been

> able to tolerate: Codeine, Naproxen, and Prednisone. Another on this

> list is Ambien, which I have taken exactly once, and I experienced the

> infamous Ambien amnesia, which is supposedly extremely rare. Never

> again would I take a dose of any of them. Obviously, I have a

> deficiency in this enzyme system, but the doctor who put me on the

> extremely toxic dose of Lipitor for two years never checked my liver

> enzymes even once.

> >

> > See attachment for Dr. Strand's list.

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

,

Can you tell whether the following medications are on that list?

Beta blockers

ACE Inhibitors

Allipurinol ( gout buster)

Thyroid meds

Penicillin

My father has been on this garbage for at least 4 years and I am trying

to convince my family that he doesn't have Alzheimers but overload.

Through mix-ups, he didn't have any meds for 2 days and he was quite

lucid. BUT my family still doesn't get it..the tie-up bewtween drugs and

foggy brain.

Do they talk about 'sulphation' in the book? Neurotransmitters and

endotoxins and DRUGS need to be sulphated before they can be excreted.

jlkinkona schrieb:

>

> Thanks . The list shows almost 80 drugs including grapefruit.

> Funny how they tell the patients who are on statins NOT to eat

> grapefruit but never caution about all the rest of the drugs that may

> be using the same pathway as statins that could be causing a toxic

> overload to the liver especially for elderly patients.

> phine

>

>

> >

> > A while back I mentioned in a post a reference to Dr. Ray Strand's

> book, Death by Prescription, in which he describes the dangers of

> taking two or more drugs that utilize the same liver enzyme system for

> metabolization. One problem is that not everyone's enzyme systems have

> the same capacity for metabolizing drugs, and another is that when two

> or more drugs require the same system, there is the potential for

> overload, which equals overdose. I wanted to include in my post Dr.

> Strand's list of the drugs that use the same system as statins, but at

> the time I realized I'd lent the book to someone and my statin-addled

> brain could not remember who. Hurray, my friend who's had it all

> along, had forgotten that she had not returned it, but when she ran

> across it this week, she brought it back to me.

> >

> > One thing that was of particular interest to me was that this

> Cytochrome P450 System, which breaks down statins, is also necessary

> for the metabolization of several other drugs that I have never been

> able to tolerate: Codeine, Naproxen, and Prednisone. Another on this

> list is Ambien, which I have taken exactly once, and I experienced the

> infamous Ambien amnesia, which is supposedly extremely rare. Never

> again would I take a dose of any of them. Obviously, I have a

> deficiency in this enzyme system, but the doctor who put me on the

> extremely toxic dose of Lipitor for two years never checked my liver

> enzymes even once.

> >

> > See attachment for Dr. Strand's list.

> >

> >

> >

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As far as I can tell, none of those are included in the list. If you'll examine the list, you'll see that it includes the various statins by their trade names, so I've checked only for one or two trade names in the ace inhibitor and beta blocker class of drugs, assuming if one is there, the rest would or should be as well. For thyroid meds, I checked Armour and it is not listed. But you can do more extensive research by googling each of them to see for yourself. For instance, there might be something other than just thyroid replacement meds that I am not aware of. And I'm sorry, but it's been quite some time since I've read the book, and in order to check to see if the author says anything about sulphation, I'd have to go back and read possibly the entire book again. And I just don't have time right

now.You can probably find the book, Death by Prescription, by Dr. Ray Strand online. It's probably a safe bet that amazon.com has it available, both new and used.I hope this helps. ----- Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=bmFuY2FybDIwNzQ%3DFrom: JULIE GRIFFITHS <moppett1@...>Lipitor Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:18:32 AMSubject: Re: Re: Liver Enzyme Systems and Drug Intolerance and Interactions

,

Can you tell whether the following medications are on that list?

Beta blockers

ACE Inhibitors

Allipurinol ( gout buster)

Thyroid meds

Penicillin

My father has been on this garbage for at least 4 years and I am trying

to convince my family that he doesn't have Alzheimers but overload.

Through mix-ups, he didn't have any meds for 2 days and he was quite

lucid. BUT my family still doesn't get it..the tie-up bewtween drugs and

foggy brain.

Do they talk about 'sulphation' in the book? Neurotransmitters and

endotoxins and DRUGS need to be sulphated before they can be excreted.

jlkinkona schrieb:

>

> Thanks . The list shows almost 80 drugs including grapefruit.

> Funny how they tell the patients who are on statins NOT to eat

> grapefruit but never caution about all the rest of the drugs that may

> be using the same pathway as statins that could be causing a toxic

> overload to the liver especially for elderly patients.

> phine

>

>

> >

> > A while back I mentioned in a post a reference to Dr. Ray Strand's

> book, Death by Prescription, in which he describes the dangers of

> taking two or more drugs that utilize the same liver enzyme system for

> metabolization. One problem is that not everyone's enzyme systems have

> the same capacity for metabolizing drugs, and another is that when two

> or more drugs require the same system, there is the potential for

> overload, which equals overdose. I wanted to include in my post Dr.

> Strand's list of the drugs that use the same system as statins, but at

> the time I realized I'd lent the book to someone and my statin-addled

> brain could not remember who. Hurray, my friend who's had it all

> along, had forgotten that she had not returned it, but when she ran

> across it this week, she brought it back to me.

> >

> > One thing that was of particular interest to me was that this

> Cytochrome P450 System, which breaks down statins, is also necessary

> for the metabolization of several other drugs that I have never been

> able to tolerate: Codeine, Naproxen, and Prednisone. Another on this

> list is Ambien, which I have taken exactly once, and I experienced the

> infamous Ambien amnesia, which is supposedly extremely rare. Never

> again would I take a dose of any of them. Obviously, I have a

> deficiency in this enzyme system, but the doctor who put me on the

> extremely toxic dose of Lipitor for two years never checked my liver

> enzymes even once.

> >

> > See attachment for Dr. Strand's list.

> >

> >

> >

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