Re: taking benadryl for KT reactions - Kind of OT

December 31, 2007

Hi Zoe, Melody and Everyone,

I drink KT and kefir. I try numerous treatments and I

prefer the gentler alternative methods. But when I

get really sick I'm glad to have a good medical doctor

who respects my ways. It's hard to find them but

worth the search.

Why in the world would we totally reject doctors and

medicine? I'm hoping that someday there will be a

blending that occurs. Around here there are doctors

who practice with a Chinese medicine practitioner.

And chiropractors who hire doctors to offer what they

can't. The world is changing and taking sides would

only serve to make me sicker since I would be

rejecting some ideas from some really smart people.

I certainly choose to error on the side of caution

with medical doctors and medicine. I think if I got

cancer I'd want an alternative treatment. But if I

got banged up in a car accident or I had organ failure

I think would would want the best medical doctor I

could find.

Just my opinion. Benadryl is one of the safer

over-the-counter medicines. There are some real nasty

ones.

To Your Health,

ann

--- zoe w <ilovegrafix@...> wrote:

> On the other hand, isn't the whole point of

> Alternative Medicine to get away from all the

> pharmaceuticals?

>

> zoe

>

> > I would like to recommend taking benadryl when you

> have a reaction.

> > This is because if your body goes on making

> histamines you could get

> > hyper sensitive. This means your body will later

> say oh wait a minute

> > that compound is related to the thing I had a

> reaction to so we need to

> > get it too!This will help control your body having

> a more severe

> > reaction in future detoxing.Melody

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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December 31, 2007

Hi

There is no doubt that orthodox Medical Doctors have a place in health care... I

however have developed a (healthy) skepticism toward the practices of Orthodox

Medicines... Rather than helping our body to re-establish its balance, the whole

Medicine philosophy has strayed toward alleviating symptoms ...This works or

rather appear to work, because too often the " pill mentality " is a never-ending

process which leads to more medication to alleviate more symptoms without

addressing the causes.. You head hurts.. Oh there is a pill, it locks you

jaw..Oh there is another .. which leads to stomach pain or ulcer.. well you know

there is another pill or surgical procedure or another (at least in the USA) a

much more expensive (read bankruptcy-causing) procedure...

We should not approach KT in this fashion, methinks... else we go back to square

one.. it hurts, then we take a pill, which leads to another pill ad infinitum..

negating in the process, the benefits of KT..

I do agree there are certain conditions that do require alleviating the symptoms

but in the whole trying to get the body in balance should be the preferred

course whenever possible.. This is not by the way aantithesis to medical

Science.. To me quite the contrary

Frantz

maryann peterson <chpeter30096@...> wrote:

Hi Zoe, Melody and Everyone,

I drink KT and kefir. I try numerous treatments and I

prefer the gentler alternative methods. But when I

get really sick I'm glad to have a good medical doctor

who respects my ways. It's hard to find them but

worth the search.

Why in the world would we totally reject doctors and

medicine? I'm hoping that someday there will be a

blending that occurs. Around here there are doctors

who practice with a Chinese medicine practitioner.

And chiropractors who hire doctors to offer what they

can't. The world is changing and taking sides would

only serve to make me sicker since I would be

rejecting some ideas from some really smart people.

I certainly choose to error on the side of caution

with medical doctors and medicine. I think if I got

cancer I'd want an alternative treatment. But if I

got banged up in a car accident or I had organ failure

I think would would want the best medical doctor I

could find.

Just my opinion. Benadryl is one of the safer

over-the-counter medicines. There are some real nasty

ones.

To Your Health,

ann

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January 1, 2008

<<Just my opinion. Benadryl is one of the safer

over-the-counter medicines. There are some real nasty

ones>>

I completely understand what Zoe is saying about trying to find alternative ways

to cope even with detox reactions and pacing detox is the best way I have found

to not need to even take anything at all, but it is an art to pace detox.

Having said this, Benadryl literally saved my son's life this past year when he

almost died from an allergic reaction. He required IV Benadryl and within a

minute of this drug going in his vein, he could breathe again and straighten his

arms and legs. At that point, a vitamin C or E would not have helped him. I have

a new regard and admiration for Benadryl.

There was a time when I would have refused any conventional medication and

another time when that was all I knew to take, so again, there is that art of

walking the fine line b/t the two worlds, IMHO.

Millie

January 1, 2008

>

> > On the other hand, isn't the whole point of

> > Alternative Medicine to get away from all the

> > pharmaceuticals?

> >

> > zoe

> >

> > > I would like to recommend taking benadryl when you

> > have a reaction.

> > > This is because if your body goes on making

> > histamines you could get

> > > hyper sensitive. This means your body will later

> > say oh wait a minute

> > > that compound is related to the thing I had a

> > reaction to so we need to

> > > get it too!This will help control your body having

> > a more severe

> > > reaction in future detoxing.Melody

> >

> > Hi Everyone!! And the warmest of New Year greetings!!

Couldn't resist jumping in here and adding my 2 cents. I have

just in the last year jumped on the " Alternative " bandwagon and I for

one am not getting off. I watched helplessly on the sidelines as

doctors, hospitals, and the drug cartel known as big PHARMA,

permitted, allowed, and contributed, to my Father, Mother, and my

sister, not to mention numerous other friends and acquaintances, who

shared the same experiences, their DEATHS. I am the only one left in

my family, and I served notice to my wife (who shares my feelings

having experienced some of the very same experiences)as well as my

grown children that I alone will be responsible for my health and

welfare.

It certainly is a lofty goal to wish their being a blending of

natural and alternative but we all know due to the tremendous amount

of $$$ and greed involved that will never occur....refer to the

history of the FDA, the 16 year tangle over Aspartame, to mention

only a few...........just recently read this report and I will only

download a few pertinent statistics but Doctors, that sacred

institution, we all love and submit to unreservedly, are now the 3rd

largest CAUSE OF DEATH!!! ..... ALL THESE ARE DEATHS PER YEAR:

12,000 -- unnecessary surgery

7,000 -- medication errors in hospitals

20,000 -- other errors in hospitals

80,000 -- infections in hospitals

106,000 -- non-error, negative effects of drugs

These total to 225,000 deaths per year from iatrogenic causes!!

AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE ARE TRUSTING OUR LIVES TO???? I am not

taking my chances I am going with the wonderful natural things God

gave us that doesn't defeat the purpose. THEY call it " HEALTHCARE "

in this country I call it SICKCARE, there is nothing, Merck,Lilly and

all the rest and their strange bedfellows...the FDA, and the FTC they

do to try to make us HEALTHY they only want us totally dependent on

their nice little drugs. I formally worked for Merck-Medco

subsidiary Paid Prescriptions, you don't even want me to waste

precious list space with all the horrible phone calls we received

from elderly America struggling on Social Security to pay for these

outrageous prescription drug addictions!!

My wife and I are in the best health we have ever been in and it all

started with KOMBUCHA........we have now added many other natural

things around us and we are NOT ON ANY MEDICATION WHATSOEVER.

KOMBUCHA GOT ME OFF OF THE VERY EXPENSIVE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE MEDS I

WAS TAKING, AS WELL AS THE SUPER EXPENSIVE SLEEPING PILLS, AND

ALLERGY MEDS.............Interestingly enough my wife's sister and

her husband are 15 years younger than we are and probably pay

$1000.00 a month on all kinds of pain pills, nexium,allergy meds,

etc...etc...and they ARE SICK ALL THE TIME..........ALL THE

TIME.......HMMMMMMMMMMMM....what is so irritating about the situation

is they will NOT even let us talk to them about KOMBUCHA or natural

things they absolutely turn a deaf ear to it.

I have written to this list numerous times over the last year about

all the wonderful things that has happened in our family and to

family memebers, who have and are taking Kombucha and othe natural

gifts from God, and I get real excited when I get a chance to

introduce KT to new people.....It has really changed our lives for

the better...........keep brewing and drinking that wonderful elixir

we call KOMBUCHA~~~~~~~~~Lonnie

> > > >

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January 2, 2008

>

> i'm all for alternqative medicine...but don't knock the nexium. Its

the only

> thing between me and daily agony

>

> Caitilin

>

January 3, 2008

>

> Hi

> I just want to add a personal observation. I do not, yet, use ACV. I

do drink KT ( Thanks again Zoe for the SCOBY and MKG) a lot about a

liter a day and I am watching myself not to drink more lol...

> Most natural treatments or remedies are slow in their actions.. They

must bring back things to where they should be; They usually do not

mask very well the body warnings, the symptoms. Not too many of these

work instantly (although some do in a rather spectacular fashion),

something we have come to expect from " medicines " ... Give it a try be

patient, take it in small doses, really small doses.. The body can

heal itself.. Try to not mask the symptoms which is what most of the

" Big Pharma " drugs do: The discomfort goes away while what causes it

is still active and often striving, waiting to cause more problems...

In some instances, alleviating the pain or discomfort could be the

ONLY recourse , in most it is not.

>

Hi Franz,

In America, they lowered what used to be the normal blood pressure

rate and I sort of think the health practitioners want everyone to be

on high blood pressure meds. Do ya think? Sunny

January 3, 2008

>

> I can't help but to put my un-educated 2 cents worth in here.

First of all I am very new to all of this. I have not tasted even

the first KT as of yet. I do however have some wonderful people

(Gayle) giving their efforts at helping me get started at this.

Now.... I have really high blood pressure (165/109 and high

cholesterol and some other ailments. I apparently have a " type A "

personality because part of my blood pressure control are anti-

depressants. That was the ONLY way they could consistently lower my

BP. My blood pressure medicine in my view is nothing short of legal

rat poison! If I wake up late on the weekend, forget to take the

little white pill, I feel pretty darn good untill I remember it and

swallow it down. Almost 20 minutes to the second I feel like crap,

dizzy and have a very bad sense of well being ( exactly what the anti-

depressants cover up). Then nap time. Going to work sometimes is a

problem. My Dr. says everything looks good to her.......her

> opinion! So....if there is any chance whatsoever that this stuff

helping me even the tiniest amount or makes me think it is..BRING IT

ON! Oh i'm 51 and feel like 101. Look like it too LOL

> Bless you ALL!

> Don

>

> Hi Don......Welcome to the wonderful world of, " All things Kombucha "

You are embarking on an incredible journey, at least that has been

my experience. I,too, had that " Silent Killer " high blood pressure

I am very familiar with the dizzy headaches, red face and

palpitations of the heart and raging pulse. The dr kept changing the

meds cause one would get top number down and not affect the other and

vice versa, and with each med change the accompanying changes in side

affects - dry hacking cough constantly, hoarseness and cotton mouth

(and I don't even drink), dizzines, etc...etc...

Last March I was introduced to Kombucha, and it wasn't 30 days til my

BP came down and went away period. The same thing happened to my

step mom who is 84 and had HBP for years!! She nor I would think of

being without KT. Took my BP yesterday it was 120 over 80, and I am

63 and a little bit overweight!! It also got me off of very

expensive sleeping pills that I thought I could not live without, and

has GREATLY helped me with horrible allergies to many airborn

fragrances. I full well expect to have those allergies eliminated by

spring.

Not to long ago someone posted about KT being a placebo affect cause

they really hadn't noticed any changes in their bodies and I had to

share my experience once again. I love telling people about what

Kombucha has done for my wife and I. Folks find it hard to believe

that at our age we don't have diabetes or heart problems, or

blah...blah...blah and that we are not on any medication at all. I

gladly tell them it's true and we have never enjoyed better health

than we have today!! To me that is very exciting and no " placebo "

can do all of that.

It has been in the 20's and teens up here in the mountains of

Northeastern Oregon since Thanksgiving and we have had snow and ice

on the ground most of that time, and with all of that of course cold

and flu season, and with everyone sneezing on us, coughing in our

face, drippy noses all around, we just go on our merry way and

haven't had the first symptom of a cold/flu. Needless to say we get

excited talking about Kombucha and natural things, and we try to get

as many people as possible to at least try it. At one time I was

brewing for 10 people, but that number has dwindled but we stay

pretty busy brewing any way as my wife and I probably drink at least

a quart each day.

Stay tuned into this list Don and you will find a lot of people

willing to help you, advise you, and be a friend to you.

Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie

January 3, 2008