Re: OT Alternates for HBP tx

[Guest guest]

Gayle,

I have Journey to the Wild Divine, too. I love that program. You can

make things happen almost by just thinking about what you want to

happen; it's fun.

Dee

> I have also used a Bio-feedback program from The Wild Divine Project

that

> does wonders for my HBP

>

> Gayle

[Guest guest]

They gave me a little gadget when I had my hip replaced last Sept. It shows

how deeply you breathe and I was told to use it 10 times each hour. I found

that deep breathing eased the pain from surgery and had other beneficial

effects. I now try to remind myself to deep breathe, like now when I am

sitting at the 'puter.

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

aeranch@...

Re: Re: OT Alternates for HBP tx

> no...no and wait, let me think....no. She would give me heroine if I

> asked for it. She is young, just a few years out of med school, etc.

> I'm sure I forget to breath.... I catch myself doing it.

[Guest guest]

Yep, Dee...that's exactly it...power of mind over matter....doubt I'll ever

have the abilities of a Tibetan monk....but it sure is cool to have events

occur in a video " game " by thinking calming thoughts or exiting ones as the

situation warrants and then see the corresponding changes in heart rate,

etc.

Also made me much more self-aware of my breathing.....very important.

Gayle

WI/USA

Re: OT Alternates for HBP tx

> Gayle,

> I have Journey to the Wild Divine, too. I love that program. You can

> make things happen almost by just thinking about what you want to

> happen; it's fun.

> Dee

>

>> I have also used a Bio-feedback program from The Wild Divine Project

> that

>> does wonders for my HBP

>>

>> Gayle

[Guest guest]

Yep, Dee...that's exactly it...power of mind over matter....doubt I'll ever

have the abilities of a Tibetan monk....but it sure is cool to have events

occur in a video " game " by thinking calming thoughts or exiting ones as the

situation warrants and then see the corresponding changes in heart rate,

etc.

Also made me much more self-aware of my breathing.....very important.

Gayle

WI/USA

Re: OT Alternates for HBP tx

> Gayle,

> I have Journey to the Wild Divine, too. I love that program. You can

> make things happen almost by just thinking about what you want to

> happen; it's fun.

> Dee

>

>> I have also used a Bio-feedback program from The Wild Divine Project

> that

>> does wonders for my HBP

>>

>> Gayle

[Guest guest]

Don,

A few suggestions. One is magnesium. Add magnesium citrate 3 times a

day. Magnesium oxide will work for the blood pressure but using

Magnesium citrate has the added benefit of being calming. Take enough

til you have loose stools then back off just a little. Your blood

pressure should drop dramatically. In June my doc wanted to put me on

meds...that was about the same time I decided I wanted to STOP all

meds. I asked her to give me a month. Within a few days, my blood

pressure dropped from 150/90 to about 110/60 and has stayed down. The

magnesium also seems to have corrected a problem with a fast heartbeat

I'd been medicated for for nearly 30 years. I've made a lot of

dramatic changes to my life, but in 6 months I've lost 50lbs, gotten

off all but one medication (I was on 27 prescriptions) and many other

miracles. The only thing I still take is Synthroid. I thank God for

leading me to natural healing. I think kefir and kombucha and cultured

veggies have played a huge role in my healing.

[Guest guest]

Don,

A few suggestions. One is magnesium. Add magnesium citrate 3 times a

day. Magnesium oxide will work for the blood pressure but using

Magnesium citrate has the added benefit of being calming. Take enough

til you have loose stools then back off just a little. Your blood

pressure should drop dramatically. In June my doc wanted to put me on

meds...that was about the same time I decided I wanted to STOP all

meds. I asked her to give me a month. Within a few days, my blood

pressure dropped from 150/90 to about 110/60 and has stayed down. The

magnesium also seems to have corrected a problem with a fast heartbeat

I'd been medicated for for nearly 30 years. I've made a lot of

dramatic changes to my life, but in 6 months I've lost 50lbs, gotten

off all but one medication (I was on 27 prescriptions) and many other

miracles. The only thing I still take is Synthroid. I thank God for

leading me to natural healing. I think kefir and kombucha and cultured

veggies have played a huge role in my healing.

[Guest guest]

Hi Don and Gayle,

Just a note from my past, when I was living in the PITS, about 20 years ago. I

would often catch myself barely breathing, inhaling minimally for less than a

second, and barely exhaling before repeating, each " breath " taking as long as a

normal breath. I got out of the PITS, and about 2 years later, after several

silent heart attacks and a triple bypass I came to the realization that I had

been trying, subconsciously, to commit suicide.

I saw my PHC Provider last week, my BP was higher than it had been for several

months, and I couldn't tell him a reason why that was so. He took it again and

it was still that high. Then he (we) did a little meditation, took it again and

it was satisfactory again.

My PHCP dismissed me in PA for being non-compliant. Good thing, too.

Janice in Seattle

Re: Re: taking benadryl for KT reactions - Kind of OT

>I can't help but to put my un-educated 2 cents worth in here. First of all

>I am very new to all of this. I have not tasted even the first KT as of

>yet. I do however have some wonderful people (Gayle) giving their efforts

>at helping me get started at this. Now.... I have really high blood

>pressure (165/109 and high cholesterol and some other ailments. I

>apparently have a " type A " personality because part of my blood pressure

>control are anti- depressants. That was the ONLY way they could

>consistently lower my BP. My blood pressure medicine in my view is nothing

>short of legal rat poison! If I wake up late on the weekend, forget to

>take the little white pill, I feel pretty darn good untill I remember it

>and swallow it down. Almost 20 minutes to the second I feel like crap,

>dizzy and have a very bad sense of well being ( exactly what the anti-

>depressants cover up). Then nap time. Going to work sometimes is a

>problem. My Dr. says everything looks good to her.......her

> opinion! So....if there is any chance whatsoever that this stuff helping

> me even the tiniest amount or makes me think it is..BRING IT ON! Oh i'm

> 51 and feel like 101. Look like it too LOL

> Bless you ALL!

> Don

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[Guest guest]

Hi Don and Gayle,

Just a note from my past, when I was living in the PITS, about 20 years ago. I

would often catch myself barely breathing, inhaling minimally for less than a

second, and barely exhaling before repeating, each " breath " taking as long as a

normal breath. I got out of the PITS, and about 2 years later, after several

silent heart attacks and a triple bypass I came to the realization that I had

been trying, subconsciously, to commit suicide.

I saw my PHC Provider last week, my BP was higher than it had been for several

months, and I couldn't tell him a reason why that was so. He took it again and

it was still that high. Then he (we) did a little meditation, took it again and

it was satisfactory again.

My PHCP dismissed me in PA for being non-compliant. Good thing, too.

Janice in Seattle

Re: Re: taking benadryl for KT reactions - Kind of OT

>I can't help but to put my un-educated 2 cents worth in here. First of all

>I am very new to all of this. I have not tasted even the first KT as of

>yet. I do however have some wonderful people (Gayle) giving their efforts

>at helping me get started at this. Now.... I have really high blood

>pressure (165/109 and high cholesterol and some other ailments. I

>apparently have a " type A " personality because part of my blood pressure

>control are anti- depressants. That was the ONLY way they could

>consistently lower my BP. My blood pressure medicine in my view is nothing

>short of legal rat poison! If I wake up late on the weekend, forget to

>take the little white pill, I feel pretty darn good untill I remember it

>and swallow it down. Almost 20 minutes to the second I feel like crap,

>dizzy and have a very bad sense of well being ( exactly what the anti-

>depressants cover up). Then nap time. Going to work sometimes is a

>problem. My Dr. says everything looks good to her.......her

> opinion! So....if there is any chance whatsoever that this stuff helping

> me even the tiniest amount or makes me think it is..BRING IT ON! Oh i'm

> 51 and feel like 101. Look like it too LOL

> Bless you ALL!

> Don

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[Guest guest]

Hi Janice...so glad you shared that...good to know there are providers out

there who are starting to open up to alternatives. That gives me some hope!

I'm glad you found that a little meditation works for you and I'm really

glad you shared you experience with us. : )

I know they say HBP is a silent killer....I rather think it's unmanaged

stress! Once again..the HBP is just a symtom of something underlying. Yep.

Gayle

WI/USA

Re: Re: taking benadryl for KT reactions - Kind of OT

>

>

>

>>I can't help but to put my un-educated 2 cents worth in here. First of all

>

>>I am very new to all of this. I have not tasted even the first KT as of

>

>>yet. I do however have some wonderful people (Gayle) giving their efforts

>

>>at helping me get started at this. Now.... I have really high blood

>

>>pressure (165/109 and high cholesterol and some other ailments. I

>

>>apparently have a " type A " personality because part of my blood pressure

>

>>control are anti- depressants. That was the ONLY way they could

>

>>consistently lower my BP. My blood pressure medicine in my view is nothing

>

>>short of legal rat poison! If I wake up late on the weekend, forget to

>

>>take the little white pill, I feel pretty darn good untill I remember it

>

>>and swallow it down. Almost 20 minutes to the second I feel like crap,

>

>>dizzy and have a very bad sense of well being ( exactly what the anti-

>

>>depressants cover up). Then nap time. Going to work sometimes is a

>

>>problem. My Dr. says everything looks good to her.......her

>

>> opinion! So....if there is any chance whatsoever that this stuff helping

>

>> me even the tiniest amount or makes me think it is..BRING IT ON! Oh i'm

>

>> 51 and feel like 101. Look like it too LOL

>

>> Bless you ALL!

>

>> Don

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janice...so glad you shared that...good to know there are providers out

there who are starting to open up to alternatives. That gives me some hope!

I'm glad you found that a little meditation works for you and I'm really

glad you shared you experience with us. : )

I know they say HBP is a silent killer....I rather think it's unmanaged

stress! Once again..the HBP is just a symtom of something underlying. Yep.

Gayle

WI/USA

Re: Re: taking benadryl for KT reactions - Kind of OT

>

>

>

>>I can't help but to put my un-educated 2 cents worth in here. First of all

>

>>I am very new to all of this. I have not tasted even the first KT as of

>

>>yet. I do however have some wonderful people (Gayle) giving their efforts

>

>>at helping me get started at this. Now.... I have really high blood

>

>>pressure (165/109 and high cholesterol and some other ailments. I

>

>>apparently have a " type A " personality because part of my blood pressure

>

>>control are anti- depressants. That was the ONLY way they could

>

>>consistently lower my BP. My blood pressure medicine in my view is nothing

>

>>short of legal rat poison! If I wake up late on the weekend, forget to

>

>>take the little white pill, I feel pretty darn good untill I remember it

>

>>and swallow it down. Almost 20 minutes to the second I feel like crap,

>

>>dizzy and have a very bad sense of well being ( exactly what the anti-

>

>>depressants cover up). Then nap time. Going to work sometimes is a

>

>>problem. My Dr. says everything looks good to her.......her

>

>> opinion! So....if there is any chance whatsoever that this stuff helping

>

>> me even the tiniest amount or makes me think it is..BRING IT ON! Oh i'm

>

>> 51 and feel like 101. Look like it too LOL

>

>> Bless you ALL!

>

>> Don

>

>

>

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