Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

I have a question then..although it may not cause hypothyroidism, I am now

understanding that it could contribute negatively to the disease. Is this

correct? Maybe this is what was referring to when she said that she

read somewhere that you stated that a person with hypothyroidism should not

drink KT. What would you suggest I do to counter the negative effects of KT

on my thyroid function? Taking all things into consideration, do you, in

fact, recommend that a person with hypothyroid avoid taking KT? And then as

a woman who is concerned about osteoporosis, should I be careful to

supplement my calcium intake or is the amount of calcium depletion caused by

KT so nominal that I need not worry about it?

~Ana

From: kombucha tea

[mailto:kombucha tea ] On Behalf Of Ed Kasper

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:01 PM

kombucha tea

Subject: Re:KT for babies

Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

(calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

whacky?

I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

Ed Kasper LAc

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

thyroid function. "

>

> Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

calcium and reduces thyroid function?

>

> Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

>

> Please do so....

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

I have a question then..although it may not cause hypothyroidism, I am now

understanding that it could contribute negatively to the disease. Is this

correct? Maybe this is what was referring to when she said that she

read somewhere that you stated that a person with hypothyroidism should not

drink KT. What would you suggest I do to counter the negative effects of KT

on my thyroid function? Taking all things into consideration, do you, in

fact, recommend that a person with hypothyroid avoid taking KT? And then as

a woman who is concerned about osteoporosis, should I be careful to

supplement my calcium intake or is the amount of calcium depletion caused by

KT so nominal that I need not worry about it?

~Ana

From: kombucha tea

[mailto:kombucha tea ] On Behalf Of Ed Kasper

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:01 PM

kombucha tea

Subject: Re:KT for babies

Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

(calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

whacky?

I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

Ed Kasper LAc

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

thyroid function. "

>

> Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

calcium and reduces thyroid function?

>

> Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

>

> Please do so....

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh gosh... if this is all true then I should NOT take it. I have a slight case

(doc says I don't need meds right now if I don't want to) of hypothyroidism and

I have been on calcium depleting meds for half my life. I guess I thought that

KT was supposed to HELP you with almost anything. Now I disappointed. I need SO

MUCH help with a ton of health issues... I really needed this and now I am

confused.

Re:KT for babies

Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

(calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

whacky?

I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

Ed Kasper LAc

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

thyroid function. "

>

> Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

calcium and reduces thyroid function?

>

> Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

>

> Please do so....

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh gosh... if this is all true then I should NOT take it. I have a slight case

(doc says I don't need meds right now if I don't want to) of hypothyroidism and

I have been on calcium depleting meds for half my life. I guess I thought that

KT was supposed to HELP you with almost anything. Now I disappointed. I need SO

MUCH help with a ton of health issues... I really needed this and now I am

confused.

Re:KT for babies

Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

(calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

whacky?

I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

Ed Kasper LAc

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

thyroid function. "

>

> Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

calcium and reduces thyroid function?

>

> Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

>

> Please do so....

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Me too . :0( That's why I'm eagerly awaiting a response from Ed. I am

on Synthroid already and have spent the last year trying to get my dosage

straight. The thought that KT is acting against my med is frustrating since

it makes me feel so good otherwise. I can't really get an advice from my

traditional doctor because although she is supportive of all my alternative

health choices, she doesn't know anything about KT to advise me properly.

So, what to do? What to do?

~Ana

From: kombucha tea

[mailto:kombucha tea ] On Behalf Of Heinz

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:14 AM

kombucha tea

Subject: Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

Oh gosh... if this is all true then I should NOT take it. I have a slight

case (doc says I don't need meds right now if I don't want to) of

hypothyroidism and I have been on calcium depleting meds for half my life. I

guess I thought that KT was supposed to HELP you with almost anything. Now I

disappointed. I need SO MUCH help with a ton of health issues... I really

needed this and now I am confused.

Re:KT for babies

Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

(calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

whacky?

I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

Ed Kasper LAc

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

thyroid function. "

>

> Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

calcium and reduces thyroid function?

>

> Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

>

> Please do so....

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Me too . :0( That's why I'm eagerly awaiting a response from Ed. I am

on Synthroid already and have spent the last year trying to get my dosage

straight. The thought that KT is acting against my med is frustrating since

it makes me feel so good otherwise. I can't really get an advice from my

traditional doctor because although she is supportive of all my alternative

health choices, she doesn't know anything about KT to advise me properly.

So, what to do? What to do?

~Ana

From: kombucha tea

[mailto:kombucha tea ] On Behalf Of Heinz

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:14 AM

kombucha tea

Subject: Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

Oh gosh... if this is all true then I should NOT take it. I have a slight

case (doc says I don't need meds right now if I don't want to) of

hypothyroidism and I have been on calcium depleting meds for half my life. I

guess I thought that KT was supposed to HELP you with almost anything. Now I

disappointed. I need SO MUCH help with a ton of health issues... I really

needed this and now I am confused.

Re:KT for babies

Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

(calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

whacky?

I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

Ed Kasper LAc

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

thyroid function. "

>

> Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

calcium and reduces thyroid function?

>

> Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

>

> Please do so....

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hang on and let's wait for Ed to reply. I have low thyroid too but have

been doing blood tests to check levels since drinking kt. I will be getting more

results soon and hope to hear from Ed or anybody with information. I will let

you know about my results when I get them. I also have calcium issues and do

take supplements when I remember to take them.

Where's Ed? Hahaha like where's Waldo?

Tiff

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

Oh gosh... if this is all true then I should NOT take it. I have a slight case

(doc says I don't need meds right now if I don't want to) of hypothyroidism and

I have been on calcium depleting meds for half my life. I guess I thought that

KT was supposed to HELP you with almost anything. Now I disappointed. I need SO

MUCH help with a ton of health issues... I really needed this and now I am

confused.

Re:KT for babies

Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

(calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

whacky?

I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

Ed Kasper LAc

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

thyroid function. "

>

> Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

calcium and reduces thyroid function?

>

> Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

>

> Please do so....

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hang on and let's wait for Ed to reply. I have low thyroid too but have

been doing blood tests to check levels since drinking kt. I will be getting more

results soon and hope to hear from Ed or anybody with information. I will let

you know about my results when I get them. I also have calcium issues and do

take supplements when I remember to take them.

Where's Ed? Hahaha like where's Waldo?

Tiff

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

Oh gosh... if this is all true then I should NOT take it. I have a slight case

(doc says I don't need meds right now if I don't want to) of hypothyroidism and

I have been on calcium depleting meds for half my life. I guess I thought that

KT was supposed to HELP you with almost anything. Now I disappointed. I need SO

MUCH help with a ton of health issues... I really needed this and now I am

confused.

Re:KT for babies

Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

(calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

whacky?

I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

Ed Kasper LAc

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

thyroid function. "

>

> Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

calcium and reduces thyroid function?

>

> Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

>

> Please do so....

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just want to say - he is not the END ALL to the answers about this though.

We need to make our own decisions. It's just upsetting to hear conflicting

information. I wonder if the amount of effect KT actually has on our thyroid

and calcium is very small... We can just keep on taking calcium supplements

and thyroid supplements...

BTW - Tiff and Ana - A natural alternative to Synthroid (I used to

take that too) is Thytrophin. I know the company Standard Process makes it,

but other companies may make a natural thyroid supplement too. Instead of

chemicals (like Synthroid) it is bovine (cow) thyroid. My mom takes it and

loves it - she says that she can feel a difference when she runs out and

doesn't have it in her system. You both may want to look into Thytrophin.

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just want to say - he is not the END ALL to the answers about this though.

We need to make our own decisions. It's just upsetting to hear conflicting

information. I wonder if the amount of effect KT actually has on our thyroid

and calcium is very small... We can just keep on taking calcium supplements

and thyroid supplements...

BTW - Tiff and Ana - A natural alternative to Synthroid (I used to

take that too) is Thytrophin. I know the company Standard Process makes it,

but other companies may make a natural thyroid supplement too. Instead of

chemicals (like Synthroid) it is bovine (cow) thyroid. My mom takes it and

loves it - she says that she can feel a difference when she runs out and

doesn't have it in her system. You both may want to look into Thytrophin.

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

good point!! I think the test results will be interesting but too not the end

all.

I use Armour. It has woorked well so far but always looking for improvemnet

when possible.

Thanks,

Tiff

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

My biggest concern is that it would be practically impossible to figure out

the true extent of effects of KT on each individual since the making of KT

is almost impossible to standardize. I am leaning toward the idea that the

overall effect is minimal, especially within the context of the overall good

it does. I will look into Thyrophin. I just doubled my Synthroid dosage to

150 mcg and I have been feeling a bit better over the past few days, but I

am also taking Humaworm which could account for some of my improvement. Who

knows. I will see what my blood work says in a month. I will also start

researching the equivalent dosage for Thyrophin to take to my doctor so we

can work it all out. I love her!! I read so many horror stories of doctors

who are not truly partners in regaining optimal health and I am thankful to

have one who truly is...

Ana

Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

I just want to say - he is not the END ALL to the answers about this though.

We need to make our own decisions. It's just upsetting to hear conflicting

information. I wonder if the amount of effect KT actually has on our thyroid

and calcium is very small... We can just keep on taking calcium supplements

and thyroid supplements...

BTW - Tiff and Ana - A natural alternative to Synthroid (I used to

take that too) is Thytrophin. I know the company Standard Process makes it,

but other companies may make a natural thyroid supplement too. Instead of

chemicals (like Synthroid) it is bovine (cow) thyroid. My mom takes it and

loves it - she says that she can feel a difference when she runs out and

doesn't have it in her system. You both may want to look into Thytrophin.

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

My biggest concern is that it would be practically impossible to figure out

the true extent of effects of KT on each individual since the making of KT

is almost impossible to standardize. I am leaning toward the idea that the

overall effect is minimal, especially within the context of the overall good

it does. I will look into Thyrophin. I just doubled my Synthroid dosage to

150 mcg and I have been feeling a bit better over the past few days, but I

am also taking Humaworm which could account for some of my improvement. Who

knows. I will see what my blood work says in a month. I will also start

researching the equivalent dosage for Thyrophin to take to my doctor so we

can work it all out. I love her!! I read so many horror stories of doctors

who are not truly partners in regaining optimal health and I am thankful to

have one who truly is...

Ana

Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

I just want to say - he is not the END ALL to the answers about this though.

We need to make our own decisions. It's just upsetting to hear conflicting

information. I wonder if the amount of effect KT actually has on our thyroid

and calcium is very small... We can just keep on taking calcium supplements

and thyroid supplements...

BTW - Tiff and Ana - A natural alternative to Synthroid (I used to

take that too) is Thytrophin. I know the company Standard Process makes it,

but other companies may make a natural thyroid supplement too. Instead of

chemicals (like Synthroid) it is bovine (cow) thyroid. My mom takes it and

loves it - she says that she can feel a difference when she runs out and

doesn't have it in her system. You both may want to look into Thytrophin.

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

My biggest concern is that it would be practically impossible to figure out

the true extent of effects of KT on each individual since the making of KT

is almost impossible to standardize. I am leaning toward the idea that the

overall effect is minimal, especially within the context of the overall good

it does. I will look into Thyrophin. I just doubled my Synthroid dosage to

150 mcg and I have been feeling a bit better over the past few days, but I

am also taking Humaworm which could account for some of my improvement. Who

knows. I will see what my blood work says in a month. I will also start

researching the equivalent dosage for Thyrophin to take to my doctor so we

can work it all out. I love her!! I read so many horror stories of doctors

who are not truly partners in regaining optimal health and I am thankful to

have one who truly is...

Ana

Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

I just want to say - he is not the END ALL to the answers about this though.

We need to make our own decisions. It's just upsetting to hear conflicting

information. I wonder if the amount of effect KT actually has on our thyroid

and calcium is very small... We can just keep on taking calcium supplements

and thyroid supplements...

BTW - Tiff and Ana - A natural alternative to Synthroid (I used to

take that too) is Thytrophin. I know the company Standard Process makes it,

but other companies may make a natural thyroid supplement too. Instead of

chemicals (like Synthroid) it is bovine (cow) thyroid. My mom takes it and

loves it - she says that she can feel a difference when she runs out and

doesn't have it in her system. You both may want to look into Thytrophin.

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Each person is different and each scoby is different. I think, or at least I

want to think, you are right about it being minimal. I feel better and my

medicine dosages have gone down per blood work results. I'm going with the gut

on this one unless someone can do better at supporting a problem with kt and low

thyroid.

I want to thank Ed for the information he has provided. I think it is good to

get several sources of information and make the best decision for ones self. I

am sure he is a fine herbalist. Much of the other information he has written has

been very good. I am a bit unsure of his complete stand on this topic but

no-one is perfect and always right. He has certainly made me look and think!!!

Sometimes I forget to do that. ahahehe

Let me know about your blood work. I am interested, or nosy.

Tiff

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Each person is different and each scoby is different. I think, or at least I

want to think, you are right about it being minimal. I feel better and my

medicine dosages have gone down per blood work results. I'm going with the gut

on this one unless someone can do better at supporting a problem with kt and low

thyroid.

I want to thank Ed for the information he has provided. I think it is good to

get several sources of information and make the best decision for ones self. I

am sure he is a fine herbalist. Much of the other information he has written has

been very good. I am a bit unsure of his complete stand on this topic but

no-one is perfect and always right. He has certainly made me look and think!!!

Sometimes I forget to do that. ahahehe

Let me know about your blood work. I am interested, or nosy.

Tiff

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Each person is different and each scoby is different. I think, or at least I

want to think, you are right about it being minimal. I feel better and my

medicine dosages have gone down per blood work results. I'm going with the gut

on this one unless someone can do better at supporting a problem with kt and low

thyroid.

I want to thank Ed for the information he has provided. I think it is good to

get several sources of information and make the best decision for ones self. I

am sure he is a fine herbalist. Much of the other information he has written has

been very good. I am a bit unsure of his complete stand on this topic but

no-one is perfect and always right. He has certainly made me look and think!!!

Sometimes I forget to do that. ahahehe

Let me know about your blood work. I am interested, or nosy.

Tiff

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

You know, my family doctor doesn't know that much about natural health, but he

knows that I do all my research and bring it to him. I also feel really grateful

that I have such a great doctor. He is always willing to let me try something

natural before prescribing meds. It's nice to have a family doctor that I trust.

BTW - what is Humaworm?

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

You know, my family doctor doesn't know that much about natural health, but he

knows that I do all my research and bring it to him. I also feel really grateful

that I have such a great doctor. He is always willing to let me try something

natural before prescribing meds. It's nice to have a family doctor that I trust.

BTW - what is Humaworm?

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

You know, my family doctor doesn't know that much about natural health, but he

knows that I do all my research and bring it to him. I also feel really grateful

that I have such a great doctor. He is always willing to let me try something

natural before prescribing meds. It's nice to have a family doctor that I trust.

BTW - what is Humaworm?

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Humaworm is an herbal antiparasitic (sp?) http://www.humaworm.com/ . I have

suffered with a variety of health issues that individually are not really

problematic as far as the medical community is concerned, but I just want to

feel better. I have had chronic hives for years, elimination issues,

tiredness and depression. I workout like a mad woman and can't lose

weight.the list goes on. So in researching all my options I learned about

parasites and the effect they may have on health. So, I decided to do a

round of Humaworm to see if it helped me. It has only been a few days, but

my energy is up and my hives have been subsiding. Now, I am doing many

healthy things all at the same time kefir (3-4 cups a day) & KT (3-4 cups)

for the past 3 months, Humaworm (this week), and I just increased Synthroid.

My blood work showed that I am still very anemic, so I also started taking

my iron pills again and a multivitamin, also all this week.

So as I said, pinpointing why I am feeling better this week is impossible,

but I am grateful. I'm in grad school and I just cannot afford to be

lethargic and hazy this semester.

That's my story.:0)

Ana

From: kombucha tea

[mailto:kombucha tea ] On Behalf Of Heinz

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:01 PM

kombucha tea

Subject: Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

You know, my family doctor doesn't know that much about natural health, but

he knows that I do all my research and bring it to him. I also feel really

grateful that I have such a great doctor. He is always willing to let me try

something natural before prescribing meds. It's nice to have a family doctor

that I trust.

BTW - what is Humaworm?

Re:KT for babies

>

> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>

> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>

> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>

> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

> whacky?

>

> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>

> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc

>

>

> >

> > Hi Ed,

> >

> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

> thyroid function. "

> >

> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

> >

> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

> >

> > Please do so....

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Without getting too gross, could you let me know if you actually " see results "

from your Humaworm? I have been looking for a parasite cleanse too, but there

are SO MANY out there that I just wasn't sure which one was the right one for

me. I'll check out the link. Thanks.

Re: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

You know, my family doctor doesn't know that much about natural health, but

he knows that I do all my research and bring it to him. I also feel really

grateful that I have such a great doctor. He is always willing to let me try

something natural before prescribing meds. It's nice to have a family doctor

that I trust.

BTW - what is Humaworm?

[Guest guest]

The product is Thytrophin by Standard Process

Re:KT for babies

>>

>> Bev, Kombucha does deplete calcium. Its a simple chemical reaction.

>> Try it at home. Place an egg in kombucha tea and the egg shell

>> (calcium) will dissolve. Take the pH before and after.

>>

>> I did not say there is a connection between kombucha and any disease.

>> Here, I said kombucha reduces the function. That is a big difference.

>>

>> Are you asking for my professional creditendials?

>> I am a California primary care provider trained in Traditional

>> Chinese Medicine. This license to practice is only issued after

>> completion of education standards (4,000 hours for me) and after

>> passing a state test - in which the pass/fail rate is 50%. We, as

>> other groups have to complete continueing education classes. I have

>> been licensed since 1997. When I speak in terms of TCM - I am

>> recognized by the Sate of California as an " expert " a professional -

>> and I am bound by specific standards both legal and professional.

>> Legally (and moraly) I am responsible for what I say and do.

>>

>> Did you read anything in my post that sounds unprofessional, or

>> whacky?

>>

>> I did refernce sources; " National Institute of Allergy and

>> Infectious Diseases, and the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit,

>> and numerous articles in The Journal of Allergy and Clinical

>> Immunology " Do you need the page numbers ?

>>

>> If you disagree with anything I have posted we can and should have a

>> dialogue about it. That is what this list is about.

>>

>> Ed Kasper LAc

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Hi Ed,

>> >

>> > A few days ago you posted that you knew of no connection between

>> > Kombucha and thyroid disease..... Now you are again writing:

>> > " Kombucha Tea and Soy products deplete calcium and reduce the

>> thyroid function. "

>> >

>> > Which is it? On what basis do you claim that Kombucha depletes

>> calcium and reduces thyroid function?

>> >

>> > Anyone is welcome to post their opinions and points of view here but

>> > since you played the " professional " card, I would expect you to be

>> > consistent in your claims and be able to back them up.

>> >

>> > Please do so....

>> >

>> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

>> > Bev

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I read their site. since when is the following true???

" It has been used for centuries to expel various types of worms including

parasites that cause skin irritations - such as ringworm. "

Ringworm is not a parasite, it is a fungus!

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

aeranch@...

RE: KT, Thyroid and Calcium was Re:KT for babies

> Humaworm is an herbal antiparasitic (sp?) http://www.humaworm.com/ . I

> have