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When I cleared a nice place in my kitchen cabinet and placed my

kombucha jars in there, they didn't like it.

They much prefer to be out on the kitchen counter. Do you think they

enjoy being on display and the center of attention?

*LOL*

-Patty

>

> When I got my first scobies several weeks ago, I brewed in the

closet

> next to my furnace, it was nice and warm. Then I found out that I

> didn't need it quite that warm, so I set up an area in a spare

room,

> which is still nice and warm.

>

> Since I've moved them, several brew cycles ago now, the kt has gone

> steadity downhill until now, this last batch has been sitting for

> nearly a week, there is a new scoby, but NO yeast ooglies and it's

> still sweet, so I assume everything needs to be discarded.

>

> I have new scobies on the way, so will be starting all over again.

>

> The only things I can think of are:

> 1) for the last couple of batches, I used PG Tips black tea

> http://www.pgtips.co.uk/

> 2) I relocated my tea to a shelving unit (3 years old) intended for

> CD/VCR tapes made from whatever ready-to-assemble furniture is made

> from. The compartments are relatively small, so each gallon jar

has

> it's own compartment, about 5 " taller than the jar. They aren't

> enclosed, but the compartments are deep enough for the whole jar to

sit

> well back from the front edge.

>

> So does anyone have any suggestions? Do you think PG Tips tea

contains

> a fungicide?

> Do you think there are vocs coming from the materials of the

shelving

> unit?

>

> When I get my new ones, I don't want them to die too.

>

> Thank you for any insight you can give me.

>

> Best regards,

> Dee

>

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Hiya Dee,

I use lots of different kinds of teas in my KT, but drink PG Tips for

my regular cuppa and have also used it on occasion for making KT with

no trouble, so I doubt the tea is the problem. And I doubt that your

scoby has died if new babies are developing. I have found that in

the summertime, my KT is done in six or seven days, but during the

colder months, it takes about 10 or 11 days to brew to perfection, so

maybe you just need to leave it a bit longer.

Griphynne

>

> When I got my first scobies several weeks ago, I brewed in the

closet

> next to my furnace, it was nice and warm. Then I found out that I

> didn't need it quite that warm, so I set up an area in a spare

room,

> which is still nice and warm.

>

> Since I've moved them, several brew cycles ago now, the kt has gone

> steadity downhill until now, this last batch has been sitting for

> nearly a week, there is a new scoby, but NO yeast ooglies and it's

> still sweet, so I assume everything needs to be discarded.

>

> I have new scobies on the way, so will be starting all over again.

>

> The only things I can think of are:

> 1) for the last couple of batches, I used PG Tips black tea

> http://www.pgtips.co.uk/

> 2) I relocated my tea to a shelving unit (3 years old) intended for

> CD/VCR tapes made from whatever ready-to-assemble furniture is made

> from. The compartments are relatively small, so each gallon jar

has

> it's own compartment, about 5 " taller than the jar. They aren't

> enclosed, but the compartments are deep enough for the whole jar to

sit

> well back from the front edge.

>

> So does anyone have any suggestions? Do you think PG Tips tea

contains

> a fungicide?

> Do you think there are vocs coming from the materials of the

shelving

> unit?

>

> When I get my new ones, I don't want them to die too.

>

> Thank you for any insight you can give me.

>

> Best regards,

> Dee

>

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I think you're on to something there, Patty! I also keep my scobies on

the kitchen counter where they brew happily and never get lonely. Not

only do they like being the center of attention, they're a nosey bunch

and like to see what's going on.

Griphynne

>

> When I cleared a nice place in my kitchen cabinet and placed my

> kombucha jars in there, they didn't like it.

> They much prefer to be out on the kitchen counter. Do you think they

> enjoy being on display and the center of attention?

> *LOL*

> -Patty

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I put my 2 7-day gallons on my kitchen counter just now and I'll see if

they like looking around a bit, lol!

We keep our house at 75 degrees, so it's about the same temp as in the

summer, so that can't be it.

What stumps me is that the liquid is totally clear, as are the new

scobies. I've never made KT before without it producing brown strings

of yeast cells hanging down and throughout the tea.

Dee

>

> Hiya Dee,

>

> I use lots of different kinds of teas in my KT, but drink PG Tips for

> my regular cuppa and have also used it on occasion for making KT with

> no trouble, so I doubt the tea is the problem. And I doubt that your

> scoby has died if new babies are developing. I have found that in

> the summertime, my KT is done in six or seven days, but during the

> colder months, it takes about 10 or 11 days to brew to perfection, so

> maybe you just need to leave it a bit longer.

>

> Griphynne

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I've been going over and over in my mind what I could have done to

cause this problem and about 5 am this morning, I woke up and thought--

the other thing I did is put a fresh filter on the water line that I

use to make KT.

We ran gallons of water and discarded them, so no charcoal bits would

get in the kt, but I wonder if there's an anti-fungal in the filter

cartridge.

Dee

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Anti-microbial Silver.

Barry

>

> I've been going over and over in my mind what I could have done to

> cause this problem and about 5 am this morning, I woke up and thought--

> the other thing I did is put a fresh filter on the water line that I

> use to make KT.

>

> We ran gallons of water and discarded them, so no charcoal bits would

> get in the kt, but I wonder if there's an anti-fungal in the filter

> cartridge.

>

> Dee

>

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Thanks Barry, that makes sense! So it's likely ok to drink, but not

make KT. I'll be buying spring water for my next batch, that's for

sure.

Do you think it's suppressing the KT scoby and if I use spring water

with my current scobies and vinegar instead of starter, they'll revive?

How frustrating! I thought I was doing a good thing. I can't afford a

reverse osmosis filter right now, but I will be looking into them as

soon as I can.

Thanks,

Dee

> > but I wonder if there's an anti-fungal in the filter

> > cartridge.

> >

> > Dee

> >

>

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In message <006501c8592b$c74fa310$6400a8c0@biblekid2> you wrote:

> <<They much prefer to be out on the kitchen counter. Do you think they

> enjoy being on display and the center of attention?

> *LOL*>>

Yes, absolutely. My Kombuchas are very social creatures ;-)

> I don't know Patty, mine are ont he counter as well and they are scaring

> people,

I think the subject line should read 'problems with people'!

The problem is very rarely with the Kombucha itself, but lies in the eye

of the beholder.

I just can't understand how people can gripe about K cultures, or spiders

and other creepy crawlies or the natural things of life!

I honestly believe that a little educating needs to take place and

the casting out of stupid phobias. It's all an attitude of the mind.

Mind you, I have always liked to scare people and make them jump or squeak.

So, you see, I am not the saint some make me out to be ;-)

most kombuchaly,

Margret, the Terrible;-)

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<<They much prefer to be out on the kitchen counter. Do you think they

enjoy being on display and the center of attention?

*LOL*>>

I don't know Patty, mine are ont he counter as well and they are scaring people,

I have three big jars going on to keep up with all the KT lovers in my life ; )

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and you probably talked to them more lol

Re: Problems with my brew

When I cleared a nice place in my kitchen cabinet and placed my

kombucha jars in there, they didn't like it.

They much prefer to be out on the kitchen counter. Do you think they

enjoy being on display and the center of attention?

*LOL*

-Patty

>

> When I got my first scobies several weeks ago, I brewed in the

closet

> next to my furnace, it was nice and warm. Then I found out that I

> didn't need it quite that warm, so I set up an area in a spare

room,

> which is still nice and warm.

>

> Since I've moved them, several brew cycles ago now, the kt has gone

> steadity downhill until now, this last batch has been sitting for

> nearly a week, there is a new scoby, but NO yeast ooglies and it's

> still sweet, so I assume everything needs to be discarded.

>

> I have new scobies on the way, so will be starting all over again.

>

> The only things I can think of are:

> 1) for the last couple of batches, I used PG Tips black tea

> http://www.pgtips. co.uk/

> 2) I relocated my tea to a shelving unit (3 years old) intended for

> CD/VCR tapes made from whatever ready-to-assemble furniture is made

> from. The compartments are relatively small, so each gallon jar

has

> it's own compartment, about 5 " taller than the jar. They aren't

> enclosed, but the compartments are deep enough for the whole jar to

sit

> well back from the front edge.

>

> So does anyone have any suggestions? Do you think PG Tips tea

contains

> a fungicide?

> Do you think there are vocs coming from the materials of the

shelving

> unit?

>

> When I get my new ones, I don't want them to die too.

>

> Thank you for any insight you can give me.

>

> Best regards,

> Dee

>

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Hello again,

I have been around and then not. I had lost interest for a while but had a

scoby hotel going so just gave it a rest for a while. Then I decided I had

better get back to business. Got bronchitis and realized I'd better get back to

being vigilant about my health.

I started a brew and 10 days later opened my old brewing jar and yuk! MOLD.

I figured my old scoby's maybe were not good any more. So I ordered one on

line and started a new brew only to end up with mold again.

I gave up. Now I have bronchitis again and I am determined to start brewing my

old best friend again. I need a scoby. I live in Los Angeles but would be happy

to pay shipping from ANYWHERE!

I have been drinking KT from whole foods and I like it fine but it is

expensive and I drink a lot when I get going.

I'd also like to try kefir grains if anyone would like to share some of those.

I'd be eternally grateful and thank you!

Getting inspired in LA,

Blessings,

Roxanne

Roxanne

EXPECT A MIRACLE

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Hello again,

I have been around and then not. I had lost interest for a while but had a

scoby hotel going so just gave it a rest for a while. Then I decided I had

better get back to business. Got bronchitis and realized I'd better get back to

being vigilant about my health.

I started a brew and 10 days later opened my old brewing jar and yuk! MOLD.

I figured my old scoby's maybe were not good any more. So I ordered one on

line and started a new brew only to end up with mold again.

I gave up. Now I have bronchitis again and I am determined to start brewing my

old best friend again. I need a scoby. I live in Los Angeles but would be happy

to pay shipping from ANYWHERE!

I have been drinking KT from whole foods and I like it fine but it is

expensive and I drink a lot when I get going.

I'd also like to try kefir grains if anyone would like to share some of those.

I'd be eternally grateful and thank you!

Getting inspired in LA,

Blessings,

Roxanne

Roxanne

EXPECT A MIRACLE

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  • 3 weeks later...

Update. Last Friday, I took some KT left over from when it was still

working and 3 scobies, one I had in my scoby hotel and 2 from a member

of this list.

I made a double batch of tea with sugar, cut each of the scobies in

half and made 2 identical gallons of kombucha. I put one in the

original location I started with (a closet) and the other in the

vcr " bookcase " where my problems started.

Now, 6 days later, the one in the closet has a nice new scoby about

1/4 " thick, but the one in the " bookcase " is just sitting there doing

nothing, not even a hint of a scoby on top.

The spaces are both dim and the temperature is within a couple of

degrees of each other, so there's got to be something coming off the

bookcase, some sort of fumes or such from the particle board glue or

the vinyl covering.

Bummer, but at least now that I know, I can get new, fresh scobies

somewhere and start totally all over again.

Earlier today, I tried 6 oz of the kt I made 3 weeks ago that still

tasted sweet and it shot my blood sugar up to nearly 200! So, I'm

going to dump every bit of all of it, all the scobies, all the kt,

everything and start all over again.

Oh well, live and learn.

>

> When I got my first scobies several weeks ago, I brewed in the closet

> next to my furnace, it was nice and warm. Then I found out that I

> didn't need it quite that warm, so I set up an area in a spare room,

> which is still nice and warm.

>

> Since I've moved them, several brew cycles ago now, the kt has gone

> steadity downhill until now, this last batch has been sitting for

> nearly a week, there is a new scoby, but NO yeast ooglies and it's

> still sweet, so I assume everything needs to be discarded.

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