Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Not to be too terse on your take: If it came from Asia indeed, that is what the books should report... Seems that this the History of Kombucha .. What else do you expect to read? Just curious Frantz inter4905 <mdemers2005@...> wrote: Beside the usual story that kombucha comes from Asia 2000 years ago and was introduce in Europe not so long ago last century, is there anyone with more information about how it started in Asia, More books I read on the subject, it seems that the same story is rewritten again and again! --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 > Not to be too terse on your take: If it came from Asia indeed, that is what the books should report... Seems that this the History of Kombucha .. What else do you expect to read? Just curious Unfortunately, that's about as much as is known. The history of foods is generally difficult to track down, as people don't bother recording " common knowledge " . For instance, the ubiquitous " garum " of the Classical world -- some sort of fermented fish sauce -- is entirely unknown despite speculative efforts to create likely recipes. (You can find numerous recipes online, by the way, if you're so inclined. Who knows -- one of them may be similar to what the Caesars had on their food.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 it would be interesting to learn more about Kombucha from the countries where it comes from ( China, Japan, Mongolia...). Maybe the local people who are making KT in those countries have interesting knowledge to communicate. ________________________________ > kombucha tea > From: sehrgut@... > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 16:38:49 +0000 > Subject: Re: kombucha history > > > > >> Not to be too terse on your take: If it came from Asia indeed, that > is what the books should report... Seems that this the History of > Kombucha .. What else do you expect to read? Just curious > > Unfortunately, that's about as much as is known. The history of foods > is generally difficult to track down, as people don't bother recording > " common knowledge " . > > For instance, the ubiquitous " garum " of the Classical world -- some > sort of fermented fish sauce -- is entirely unknown despite > speculative efforts to create likely recipes. (You can find numerous > recipes online, by the way, if you're so inclined. Who knows -- one of > them may be similar to what the Caesars had on their food.) > > > _________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Information was rarely recorded beyond spoken traditions at that time. Due to the nature of KT we can make some assumptions. Fermenting foods was growing as a means of preserving them. Wine, beer, and other beverages were also entering some very broad experimentation. It's quite likely that about that time in Asia there were some trying to make Tea Wine. Because yeast needs sugars and tea has few to offer, they would have had to sweeten it. At about the same time cane sugar was growing as an industry in parts of india and china. There are some sites and books that offer a few stories about the youthfulness of some groups of people and KT is sited as the reason. There is little to back them up, but they are nice stories. Traditional Chinese Medicine uses a very wide range of herbs and other stuff. Tea was associated with good health, so practitioners of the time would have experimented with any form of it to see if there was any benefit. Even a Tea Wine that had accidentally been contaminated by bacteria which turn alcohol into acids. We can assume they noted some benefit. I would assume early practitioners would have typically used KT as a means of preserving herbal infusions. Herbs didn't always travel well, and could be hard to find making them expensive. Europeans had brought back many things from Asia. Even sugar was once viewed as a medicine. My opinion is that KT was probably a batch of spoiled Tea Wine. Due to the assumption that tea was healthy and the excellent preservative environment of the KT itself it is still with us today. But it is unlikely you would find any written history anywhere as to the exact nature of it's beginnings. Though I would bet good money there is plenty of information on combinations of herbs in many parts of Asia, and I would agree that it would be great to have them available. > > Beside the usual story that kombucha comes from Asia 2000 years ago and was introduce > in Europe not so long ago last century, is there anyone with more information about how it > started in Asia, > > More books I read on the subject, it seems that the same story is rewritten again and > again! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Hello, Wanted to share information I have offered in my Kombucha class regarding the History of Kombucha Tea: · The first recorded use of Kombucha tea originated in Asia during the Chinese Tsin/Qin/Chin dynasty (hence the name China) in 212BC. A very short yet ambitious dynasty, it's the time when the great wall was built. · During this dynasty, a particular individual (whose name I did not bother to record for simplicity) wrote one of the best texts on acupuncture to date. Approximtaley 90% of today’s classical acupuncture texts is based on this individuals work during this dynasty. · During this time, the investigation of mushrooms (deemed longevity tonics) was worked on intensely at the calling of this emperor (and many other emperors). It is easy to imagine the study of kombucha in this context as they were researching other " mushrooms " at that time for their possible longevity effects (despite that Kombucha isn’t clinically a mushroom). Also significant during this time, as acupuncture spread from China to Korea and Japan, we can imagine that this was perhaps the same flow in which the knowledge of Kombucha tea traveled. · Being that it was so desired, the “Remedy for Immortality " (Kombucha tea) then spread to India and Russia through travelers and traders. Kombucha appeared in Germany about the turn of the century from Russia. Dr. Sklenar is quite famous in Germany for his study and publishing of KT benefits. It became quite popular across Europe until World War II with the shortage of tea and sugar. In part From http://www.kombuchacultures.com/kombucha_history.html --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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