Re: kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

[Guest guest]

Actually, a couple of women here just recently talked about this topic. They

actually suggested using KT as a douche to get rid of yeast infections. I know

that may sound strange since it was started with yeast, but there's a good

chance that she already had candida. And do you know how much sugar she normally

consumes? I think there are a lot of other factors at play here besides just the

KT.

kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

I'm hoping we have a naturopath or other certified health professional

out there to answer this very concerning question. Although I

appreciate everyone's discussion and viewpoint, I think something

serious like this really needs a pro touch. And in light of the fact

that a large portion of consumers of kt are women, it would be good to

have a solid professional opinion on the matter.

In another group that I moderate a woman suddenly developed a bad case

of vaginitis/candidiasis after drinking KT. Apparently she didn't

" ease " into drinking it and her body seems to have reacted - not the

first time I've encountered this very same problem. One kombucha book

I have written by two women in the 90s, I don't recall the title

offhand, has a section related to this and in no uncertain terms said

stop consuming kt and seek a health practitioner.

What is the best course of action? I'm quite concerned.

Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.

skooter

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[Guest guest]

>

> Actually, a couple of women here just recently talked about this

topic. They actually suggested using KT as a douche to get rid of

yeast infections.

>

Yeah, I saw that but not being a medical expert on lady parts, I

thought I'd ask.

>

> I think there are a lot of other factors at play here besides just

the KT.

>

Oh yeah, I completely understand the many variables. I also know that

KT can produce these same effects in other immune compromised folks

(e.g. hiv/aids), so it's not exactly a conincidence or far-fetched

connection. I'm just hoping to get some " professional " input on this

for posterity.

skooter

[Guest guest]

> Actually, a couple of women here just recently talked about this topic. They

> actually suggested using KT as a douche to get rid of yeast infections.

I am wondering if it worked.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

I remember them reporting that it did work and they highly recommend it.

Remember kt is the good stuff not the bad stuff.

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

> Actually, a couple of women here just recently talked about this topic. They

> actually suggested using KT as a douche to get rid of yeast infections.

I am wondering if it worked.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Scooter...I think you have answered your own question...if you and your

friend consider this to be a situation that is " very concerning " and that

needs a " solid professional opinion " then get out your yellow pages and find

that naturopath or other practitioner of your choosing!

Otherwise, have your friend back off on the KT and then build back up again

slowly as you have suggested! I hope your friend was drinking adequate

amounts of good water along with the KT.

Unless there are other health problems involved, this is a very common

malady and nowadays is most usually handled with OTC products if one does

not wish to do home remedies.

IMO, Any health professional that would offer advice without seeing someone

as a patient and having a history is putting themselves at risk in today's

society and I would highly advise against you taking the advice of anyone

saying they are a professional and who would offer such advice on a forum

like this one.

Best wishes to your friend and yourself...

Gayle

kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

> I'm hoping we have a naturopath or other certified health professional

> out there to answer this very concerning question. Although I

> appreciate everyone's discussion and viewpoint, I think something

> serious like this really needs a pro touch. And in light of the fact

> that a large portion of consumers of kt are women, it would be good to

> have a solid professional opinion on the matter.

>

> In another group that I moderate a woman suddenly developed a bad case

> of vaginitis/candidiasis after drinking KT. Apparently she didn't

> " ease " into drinking it and her body seems to have reacted - not the

> first time I've encountered this very same problem. One kombucha book

> I have written by two women in the 90s, I don't recall the title

> offhand, has a section related to this and in no uncertain terms said

> stop consuming kt and seek a health practitioner.

>

> What is the best course of action? I'm quite concerned.

>

> Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.

>

> skooter

[Guest guest]

gayle,

Good points, point taken. So perhaps I should be more clear in my

request to aleviate the concerns you mention. More directly, what I'm

looking for in a professional opinion is this:

1) Confirmation that this type of side affect can indeed occur from

consuming KT.

2) If 1 is true, what is the recommended path of action? There's a

lot of conflicting info to be had and folks are diagnosing and

treating themselves. So a little solid information would be useful.

3) What advice is there for folks with compromised immune systems and

kt consumption?

4) Can these self-treatments (kt douche, continuing consumption, etc.)

alleviate or exacerbate such problems? Most folks tend to believe KT

can fix everything, so it would be good to have an objective opinion.

I'm not asking for a diagnosis. I'm asking for general advice.

Thanks again for your feedback.

skooter

>

> Scooter...I think you have answered your own question...if you and your

> friend consider this to be a situation that is " very concerning " and

that

> needs a " solid professional opinion " then get out your yellow pages

and find

> that naturopath or other practitioner of your choosing!

>

> Otherwise, have your friend back off on the KT and then build back

up again

> slowly as you have suggested! I hope your friend was drinking adequate

> amounts of good water along with the KT.

>

> Unless there are other health problems involved, this is a very common

> malady and nowadays is most usually handled with OTC products if one

does

> not wish to do home remedies.

>

> IMO, Any health professional that would offer advice without seeing

someone

> as a patient and having a history is putting themselves at risk in

today's

> society and I would highly advise against you taking the advice of

anyone

> saying they are a professional and who would offer such advice on a

forum

> like this one.

>

> Best wishes to your friend and yourself...

>

> Gayle

>

[Guest guest]

Any acidic douche will work. The old standby of vinegar and water will work

if you don't have KT.

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

aeranch@...

Re: kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

>> Actually, a couple of women here just recently talked about this topic.

>> They

>> actually suggested using KT as a douche to get rid of yeast infections.

>

> I am wondering if it worked.

>

> Dorothy

[Guest guest]

My daughter is a medical student (3rd year and was in medical

rotations, but is switching to a licensed Naturopathic Physician

school this fall) and the one thing that needs to be talked about

here, aside from those that do have out-right allergic reactions to

Kombucha, is consuming Kombucha that is too acidic.

This can cause all kinds of yeast over-growths in all kinds of places

that you don't want or need it. Often times, home-brewers are under

the impression that Kombucha needs to be strong like vinegar to do

any good. Not so, and can be a bit dangerous, as you will over

acidify your whole body with too much lactic acid.

The obvious course of action here is to do the opposite, which in

this case would be mouth rinses with a baking soda and hydrogen

peroxide mixture, and for the other mucus membranes, use a baking

soda rinse (douches, etc). All mucus membranes are naturally

alkaline, and too much acid can throw this way out of balance.

Things need a chance to normalize, so stopping consumption of the

Kombucha is vital at this point. Use baking soda to alkalize, and to

also sooth any allergic reaction that might be taking place. Whole

process should only take a few days to settle down. Let body settle

down for a good spell (at least a week or two), before reattempting

to try small amounts of Kombucha at proper acid levels.

Of course, if condition does not respond to alkalizing treatment

right away (day or two) immediately seek the advice of a board-

certified and licensed physician (MD, DO, ND).

pb_terrier

<snip>

> In another group that I moderate a woman suddenly developed a bad

case

> of vaginitis/candidiasis after drinking KT. Apparently she didn't

> " ease " into drinking it and her body seems to have reacted - not the

> first time I've encountered this very same problem. One kombucha

book

> I have, written by two women in the 90s, I don't recall the title

> offhand, has a section related to this and in no uncertain terms

said

> stop consuming kt and seek a health practitioner.

>

> What is the best course of action? I'm quite concerned.

>

> Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.

>

> skooter

>

[Guest guest]

Hi EveryOne,

Since many people have used Kombucha tea both internally and

externally to get rid of long standing Candida problems it seems

highly unlikely that Kombucha is the cause of these problems.....it

would be wise to use Kombucha with most of the sugar fermented to the

more vinegary side but that is the only caution I would have re:

Kombucha. It is the sugar, not the Kombucha that is likely to be a

factor here.

Over many years reading the posts to this list, since 1995, I have

only heard of people using Kombucha (on the vinegary side) to get rid

of both internal and external candida. There are reports to that

effect in one of the Kombucha threads in the FILES section folder

Kombucha Threads.

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

-- In kombucha tea , " skooterlicious "

<skooterlicious@...> wrote:

>

> gayle,

>

> Good points, point taken. So perhaps I should be more clear in my

> request to aleviate the concerns you mention. More directly, what I'm

> looking for in a professional opinion is this:

>

> 1) Confirmation that this type of side affect can indeed occur from

> consuming KT.

>

> 2) If 1 is true, what is the recommended path of action? There's a

> lot of conflicting info to be had and folks are diagnosing and

> treating themselves. So a little solid information would be useful.

>

> 3) What advice is there for folks with compromised immune systems and

> kt consumption?

>

> 4) Can these self-treatments (kt douche, continuing consumption, etc.)

> alleviate or exacerbate such problems? Most folks tend to believe KT

> can fix everything, so it would be good to have an objective opinion.

>

> I'm not asking for a diagnosis. I'm asking for general advice.

>

> Thanks again for your feedback.

>

> skooter

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Scooter...I think you have answered your own question...if you and

your

> > friend consider this to be a situation that is " very concerning " and

> that

> > needs a " solid professional opinion " then get out your yellow pages

> and find

> > that naturopath or other practitioner of your choosing!

> >

> > Otherwise, have your friend back off on the KT and then build back

> up again

> > slowly as you have suggested! I hope your friend was drinking

adequate

> > amounts of good water along with the KT.

> >

> > Unless there are other health problems involved, this is a very

common

> > malady and nowadays is most usually handled with OTC products if one

> does

> > not wish to do home remedies.

> >

> > IMO, Any health professional that would offer advice without seeing

> someone

> > as a patient and having a history is putting themselves at risk in

> today's

> > society and I would highly advise against you taking the advice of

> anyone

> > saying they are a professional and who would offer such advice on a

> forum

> > like this one.

> >

> > Best wishes to your friend and yourself...

> >

> > Gayle

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Folks....

There are a couple of real errors here.

First is the idea that baking soda should be used as a douche to alkalize.

This is nonsense as a typical healthy vaginal Ph is 3.8 to 4.5. That is

acidic.

Second...as Kombucha is an acetic acid ferment I have difficulty

understanding how it could cause over acidification with lactic acid. To go

along with that it is well known that it is not the initial Ph of a food

that determines whether a food is acid forming or alkaline forming, but

rather how it is processed by the body. It is generally accepted that

Kombucha is an alkalysing food, like lemons.

Gayle

Re: kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

> My daughter is a medical student (3rd year and was in medical

> rotations, but is switching to a licensed Naturopathic Physician

> school this fall) and the one thing that needs to be talked about

> here, aside from those that do have out-right allergic reactions to

> Kombucha, is consuming Kombucha that is too acidic.

>

> This can cause all kinds of yeast over-growths in all kinds of places

> that you don't want or need it. Often times, home-brewers are under

> the impression that Kombucha needs to be strong like vinegar to do

> any good. Not so, and can be a bit dangerous, as you will over

> acidify your whole body with too much lactic acid.

>

> The obvious course of action here is to do the opposite, which in

> this case would be mouth rinses with a baking soda and hydrogen

> peroxide mixture, and for the other mucus membranes, use a baking

> soda rinse (douches, etc). All mucus membranes are naturally

> alkaline, and too much acid can throw this way out of balance.

>

> Things need a chance to normalize, so stopping consumption of the

> Kombucha is vital at this point. Use baking soda to alkalize, and to

> also sooth any allergic reaction that might be taking place. Whole

> process should only take a few days to settle down. Let body settle

> down for a good spell (at least a week or two), before reattempting

> to try small amounts of Kombucha at proper acid levels.

>

> Of course, if condition does not respond to alkalizing treatment

> right away (day or two) immediately seek the advice of a board-

> certified and licensed physician (MD, DO, ND).

>

> pb_terrier

>

>

>

> <snip>

>> In another group that I moderate a woman suddenly developed a bad

> case

>> of vaginitis/candidiasis after drinking KT. Apparently she didn't

>> " ease " into drinking it and her body seems to have reacted - not the

>> first time I've encountered this very same problem. One kombucha

> book

>> I have, written by two women in the 90s, I don't recall the title

>> offhand, has a section related to this and in no uncertain terms

> said

>> stop consuming kt and seek a health practitioner.

>>

>> What is the best course of action? I'm quite concerned.

>>

>> Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.

>>

>> skooter

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Folks....

There are a couple of real errors here.

First is the idea that baking soda should be used as a douche to alkalize.

This is nonsense as a typical healthy vaginal Ph is 3.8 to 4.5. That is

acidic.

Second...as Kombucha is an acetic acid ferment I have difficulty

understanding how it could cause over acidification with lactic acid. To go

along with that it is well known that it is not the initial Ph of a food

that determines whether a food is acid forming or alkaline forming, but

rather how it is processed by the body. It is generally accepted that

Kombucha is an alkalysing food, like lemons.

Gayle

Re: kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

> My daughter is a medical student (3rd year and was in medical

> rotations, but is switching to a licensed Naturopathic Physician

> school this fall) and the one thing that needs to be talked about

> here, aside from those that do have out-right allergic reactions to

> Kombucha, is consuming Kombucha that is too acidic.

>

> This can cause all kinds of yeast over-growths in all kinds of places

> that you don't want or need it. Often times, home-brewers are under

> the impression that Kombucha needs to be strong like vinegar to do

> any good. Not so, and can be a bit dangerous, as you will over

> acidify your whole body with too much lactic acid.

>

> The obvious course of action here is to do the opposite, which in

> this case would be mouth rinses with a baking soda and hydrogen

> peroxide mixture, and for the other mucus membranes, use a baking

> soda rinse (douches, etc). All mucus membranes are naturally

> alkaline, and too much acid can throw this way out of balance.

>

> Things need a chance to normalize, so stopping consumption of the

> Kombucha is vital at this point. Use baking soda to alkalize, and to

> also sooth any allergic reaction that might be taking place. Whole

> process should only take a few days to settle down. Let body settle

> down for a good spell (at least a week or two), before reattempting

> to try small amounts of Kombucha at proper acid levels.

>

> Of course, if condition does not respond to alkalizing treatment

> right away (day or two) immediately seek the advice of a board-

> certified and licensed physician (MD, DO, ND).

>

> pb_terrier

>

>

>

> <snip>

>> In another group that I moderate a woman suddenly developed a bad

> case

>> of vaginitis/candidiasis after drinking KT. Apparently she didn't

>> " ease " into drinking it and her body seems to have reacted - not the

>> first time I've encountered this very same problem. One kombucha

> book

>> I have, written by two women in the 90s, I don't recall the title

>> offhand, has a section related to this and in no uncertain terms

> said

>> stop consuming kt and seek a health practitioner.

>>

>> What is the best course of action? I'm quite concerned.

>>

>> Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.

>>

>> skooter

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for the ideas, pb, and everyone. this is turning out to be

great information all around!

skooter

>

> My daughter is a medical student (3rd year and was in medical

> rotations, but is switching to a licensed Naturopathic Physician

> school this fall) and the one thing that needs to be talked about

> here, aside from those that do have out-right allergic reactions to

> Kombucha, is consuming Kombucha that is too acidic.

>

> This can cause all kinds of yeast over-growths in all kinds of places

> that you don't want or need it. Often times, home-brewers are under

> the impression that Kombucha needs to be strong like vinegar to do

> any good. Not so, and can be a bit dangerous, as you will over

> acidify your whole body with too much lactic acid.

>

> The obvious course of action here is to do the opposite, which in

> this case would be mouth rinses with a baking soda and hydrogen

> peroxide mixture, and for the other mucus membranes, use a baking

> soda rinse (douches, etc). All mucus membranes are naturally

> alkaline, and too much acid can throw this way out of balance.

>

> Things need a chance to normalize, so stopping consumption of the

> Kombucha is vital at this point. Use baking soda to alkalize, and to

> also sooth any allergic reaction that might be taking place. Whole

> process should only take a few days to settle down. Let body settle

> down for a good spell (at least a week or two), before reattempting

> to try small amounts of Kombucha at proper acid levels.

>

> Of course, if condition does not respond to alkalizing treatment

> right away (day or two) immediately seek the advice of a board-

> certified and licensed physician (MD, DO, ND).

>

> pb_terrier

>

>

[Guest guest]

I totally agree? I've always understood that an acid douche like

vinegar diluted with water kills the candida. This home remedy goes

back generations and is still recommended today!

>

> Folks....

>

> There are a couple of real errors here.

>

> First is the idea that baking soda should be used as a douche to

alkalize.

> This is nonsense as a typical healthy vaginal Ph is 3.8 to 4.5. That is

> acidic.

>

> Second...as Kombucha is an acetic acid ferment I have difficulty

> understanding how it could cause over acidification with lactic

acid. To go

> along with that it is well known that it is not the initial Ph of a

food

> that determines whether a food is acid forming or alkaline forming, but

> rather how it is processed by the body. It is generally accepted that

> Kombucha is an alkalysing food, like lemons.

>

> Gayle

[Guest guest]

As I understand it, that's the recommendation for off the shelf

vinegar which is usually pasteurized.

skooter

>

> I totally agree? I've always understood that an acid douche like

> vinegar diluted with water kills the candida. This home remedy goes

> back generations and is still recommended today!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Everything I have read, they always recommend raw apple cider vinegar, it is the

most healing, and would be exactly the same as KT. Jeani

kombucha tea@...: skooterlicious@...: Wed, 11

Jun 2008 03:28:16 +0000Subject: Re: kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

As I understand it, that's the recommendation for off the shelfvinegar which is

usually pasteurized.skooter>> I totally agree? I've always understood that an acid douche

like> vinegar diluted with water kills the candida. This home remedy goes> back

generations and is still recommended today!> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes, it is true that the vagina leans to the acidic side, however not

too acidic which can be a serious problem and may be what is

happening in this case. Baking soda douches are common, and they are

used to lower the overly acidic conditions that can occur, and also

have been used successfully to lower the acidity of the vagina so

that the odds of conceiving a boy are increased. In this case, it

sounds very much like this poor individual's body has become over

acidified, as was my original point.

Lactic acid is also part of Kombucha, and for some odd reason it is

the lactic acid that seems to build up to unhealthy levels in some

individuals (allergic reaction? don't know).

pb_terrier

>

> Folks....

>

> There are a couple of real errors here.

>

> First is the idea that baking soda should be used as a douche to

alkalize.

> This is nonsense as a typical healthy vaginal Ph is 3.8 to 4.5.

That is

> acidic.

>

> Second...as Kombucha is an acetic acid ferment I have difficulty

> understanding how it could cause over acidification with lactic

acid. To go

> along with that it is well known that it is not the initial Ph of a

food

> that determines whether a food is acid forming or alkaline forming,

but

> rather how it is processed by the body. It is generally accepted

that

> Kombucha is an alkalysing food, like lemons.

>

> Gayle

[Guest guest]

Hi

We need to understand that these are MANIFESTATIONS of a systemic problems.

Washing with diluted vinegar does provide (some) relief but does not really

address the real problem.. which is Candida overgrowth. While I ENTIRELY agree

with you on Medical practices.. Too often in the alternative health realm we

tend to think along the same lines.. We address the symptoms rather than the

causes... Candida is part of our body.. It is always in our Intestine Flora...

We do not want to kill it, simply re-establish the balance.. i-e a stable

population that does not increase at the detriment of other

bacteria/micro-organisms. Besides, douches do not " kill " all the candida.. they

eventually reappear, if their outgrowth is not controlled... Diet is the key...

One should not feed on things that encourage candida overgrowth, which means

refined sugar should be banished actually refined ANYTHING... Avoid process

foods like the plague... There is much more to Candida overgrowth than that

but youget the gist o it, I suppose.. before I forget KT seems to do a good job

with Candida overgrowth, I suppose Raw Apple Cider Vinegar would have similar

effect but Kombucha is to me sooo tasty...

Frantz

Jeani <countryrose_ak@...> wrote:

Everything I have read, they always recommend raw apple cider vinegar, it is

the most healing, and would be exactly the same as KT. Jeani

kombucha tea@...: skooterlicious@...: Wed,

11 Jun 2008 03:28:16 +0000Subject: Re: kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

As I understand it, that's the recommendation for off the shelfvinegar which is

usually pasteurized.skooter>> I totally agree? I've always understood that an acid douche

like> vinegar diluted with water kills the candida. This home remedy goes> back

generations and is still recommended today!> >

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[Guest guest]

For me, it was not just a change in my diet, I had gotten rid of refined sugar,

(and rarely used the organic evaporated cane sugar that we use in much larger

quantities now) all wheat except sprouted grains, all potatoes (which I now

consume red and purple potatoes) all milk products (which I also now consume)

ALL of the things that were recommended to get rid of in your diet in order to

get rid of the bad bacteria and reestablish the proper amount of yeasts. I

didn't notice any changes in my body on the candida diet. (or they were very

minimal, I was still just as miserable as ever) It was the KT that changed my

life with candidas. A couple of months after taking KT, (and having noticed

the disappearance of candida symptoms) I was introduced to kefir, another

symbiosis of yeasts and bacteria, and then I was introduced to virgin coconut

oil. I only mentioned raw apple cider vinegar because it was mentioned that

anybody using a vinegar douche for candidas was probably using pasteurized apple

cider vinegar-NOT so! I definitely say KT is also the way to go!!!! Jeani

kombucha tea@...: frantzgm@...: Wed, 11 Jun

2008 07:40:22 -0700Subject: RE: Re: kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

HiWe need to understand that these are MANIFESTATIONS of a systemic problems.

Washing with diluted vinegar does provide (some) relief but does not really

address the real problem.. which is Candida overgrowth. While I ENTIRELY agree

with you on Medical practices.. Too often in the alternative health realm we

tend to think along the same lines.. We address the symptoms rather than the

causes... Candida is part of our body.. It is always in our Intestine Flora...

We do not want to kill it, simply re-establish the balance.. i-e a stable

population that does not increase at the detriment of other

bacteria/micro-organisms. Besides, douches do not " kill " all the candida.. they

eventually reappear, if their outgrowth is not controlled... Diet is the key...

One should not feed on things that encourage candida overgrowth, which means

refined sugar should be banished actually refined ANYTHING... Avoid process

foods like the plague... There is much more to Candida overgrowth than thatbut

youget the gist o it, I suppose.. before I forget KT seems to do a good job with

Candida overgrowth, I suppose Raw Apple Cider Vinegar would have similar effect

but Kombucha is to me sooo tasty...FrantzJeani

<countryrose_ak@...> wrote: Everything I have read, they always

recommend raw apple cider vinegar, it is the most healing, and would be exactly

the same as KT. Jeanikombucha tea@...:

skooterlicious@...: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:28:16 +0000Subject: Re:

kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrushAs I understand it, that's the recommendation

for off the shelfvinegar which is usually pasteurized.skooter>> I totally

agree? I've always understood that an acid douche like> vinegar diluted with

water kills the candida. This home remedy goes> back generations and is still

recommended today!> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes, coconut oil is a wonderful thing. The only problem is that you

have to be mindful of where the product is coming from to ensure it's

being harvested from fair trade, environmentally sustainable farming.

Currently, most coconut oils, waxes, etc., on our market come from

Indonesia where farmers are slash and burning rain forest to plant

monocultures and devastating species. More importantly, the rain

forests of Indonesia regulate the weather in the whole region.

skooter

>

> For those of

> you who haven't googled coconut oil and still think it is a bad for

> you fat-you're in for a pleasant surprise!!!

>

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The coconut oil I buy comes from the Philipines, and the workers are paid fair

trade prices. The coconut trees have been there for generations. Coconut oil

compliments KT so wonderfully, that I love to let everyone in on the " secret " of

coconut oil! Jeani

kombucha tea@...: skooterlicious@...: Wed, 11

Jun 2008 21:06:32 +0000Subject: Re: kt and cadidiasis/vaginitis/thrush

Yes, coconut oil is a wonderful thing. The only problem is that youhave to be

mindful of where the product is coming from to ensure it'sbeing harvested from

fair trade, environmentally sustainable farming. Currently, most coconut oils,

waxes, etc., on our market come fromIndonesia where farmers are slash and

burning rain forest to plantmonocultures and devastating species. More

importantly, the rainforests of Indonesia regulate the weather in the whole

region.skooter>> For those of > you who haven't googled

coconut oil and still think it is a bad for > you fat-you're in for a pleasant

surprise!!!>

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