Re: [OK]Green garden or meadow tea?

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I have to admit, Gayle, I do like my sushi too! Now that is a pleasant way to

get your kelp!!! Although for some it is probably an acquired taste-hah!! But

at least it gets drownded in wasabi, ginger and soy sauce! lol!!! I also like

to use the Nori seaweed ground up with seasame seeds with my " fresh " tuna

steaks. My my, I guess I do like seaweed without the capsule!! Course I would

be REALLY reluctant to use kelp in my KT brew, RODRICK!!! lol Jeani

kombucha tea@...: gsmarks@...: Sat, 21 Jun

2008 06:23:14 -0500Subject: Re: Green garden or meadow tea?

Exactly ....A 'flat' here is a tray of plants one gets from the garden

center in the spring. 'Flat' where you are is an apartment that is rented,

yes??'Aqua' where I am is most usually only used as a name for a shade of

blue...in Italy is means H2O.Here 'magazine' is generally a periodical to be

read...in Italian 'magazino' is a warehouse.Oh, oh, oh....the word pronouned

'high'....means 'hello' here (usually)...in Japan it means 'yes'.Then there's

'chow' and 'ciao'..... :- DPlus, Kombu' would probably be only a close

approximation in western alphabet of what the original sounded like., rather

like the capital of China used to be spelled 'Peking' in the west and now is

generally 'Beijing'...I bet if those two words when pronounced as spelled have

very dissimilar meanings or perhaps, given the complexity of the fareast

languages relative to tonality, etc. no meaning at all!Note that none of the

other common translations into English mention kelp or kombu.As for eating kelp,

however....I find it holds my sashimi filled sushi together very nicely,

thank-you, and do quite enjoy my seaweed, 'nori' that way!Gayle----- Original

Message ----- From: " Kane " <brainnake@...>To:

<kombucha tea >Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 2:36 AMSubject:

Re: Green garden or meadow tea?> Kombu only means " Kelp " IF you speak/know

Japanese or the name> originated in Japan.> For instance a " Chippie " in England

is a carpenter (But not in USA) and> a " Fag " is either a cigarette or an olde

worlde public school term for> lower forms being servants for sixth formers (Or

something like that)> (But not, so far as I recall, in USA)> {¦;¬))> .> N.

England.>> If a group has NO topic there's no such thing as going " Off-topic " >

A.B.A.L.T.A.T.> " Any, LEGAL, topic which other groups would consider

Off-Topic. " > http://uk./group/ABALTAT/> Current membership ¦;-)

= 11> Any advance on 11?>> dorothyroeder wrote:>>>>>>> Btw, " kombu " means kelp,

so to have true " kombu cha " , you'd have to>>> make a kelp tea.

...........>>>>>>>> IS THIS TRUE??? I am astounded. What do the KT

gurus/historians here>> have to say about that? Or maybe Roderick is one...I

dunno.>>>> Dorothy>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>>>

Links>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

I suppose ingesting sea veggies is an acquired taste, but once you know how

good they are for you, you see it's worth the effort. The following

company have many varieties of sea veggies, for different uses, some you add

to soup, some in a blend to sprinkle over salads, one we like to eat similar

to how you would beef jerky. Here's the link for anyone that wants to

expand their horizons! Although I won't be adding any to my KT!

http://www.seaweed.net/default.html

Vickie in VA

I also like to use the Nori seaweed ground up with seasame seeds with my

" fresh " tuna steaks. My my, I guess I do like seaweed without the capsule!!

[Guest guest]

G S Marks wrote:

> <....BIG snip....>

>

> Some people have used them in sculptures.

>

> <.... GINORMOUS Snip....>

>

Yup, they do.

http://www.ngiulini.com/page6/page6.html

[Guest guest]

Yes, Vickie, it cleanses the blood, has iron in it for those who are anemic (for

those who aren't anemic, it is in such a natural state that you don't have to

worry about getting an overdose of it-although oftentimes anemia can be

associated with thyroid problems.) and it has calcium in it. I often times take

a kelp capsule just before bedtime, and it zonks me right out if the KT hasn't

already! lol! (and no, I am not often " sleepless " nor in " Seattle " as much

as I wish I was in WA! lol!!) As a midwife, Vickie, I'll bet you're already

aware of the many blessings herbs can have on us and this is all " old hat " to

you!! Jeani

kombucha tea@...: midwife@...: Sat, 21 Jun

2008 11:06:52 -0400Subject: RE: Green garden or meadow tea?

I suppose ingesting sea veggies is an acquired taste, but once you know howgood

they are for you, you see it's worth the effort. The followingcompany have many

varieties of sea veggies, for different uses, some you addto soup, some in a

blend to sprinkle over salads, one we like to eat similarto how you would beef

jerky. Here's the link for anyone that wants toexpand their horizons! Although I

won't be adding any to my KT!http://www.seaweed.net/default.htmlVickie in VAI

also like to use the Nori seaweed ground up with seasame seeds with my " fresh "

tuna steaks. My my, I guess I do like seaweed without the capsule!!

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[Guest guest]

G S Marks wrote:

> Exactly ....A 'flat' here is a tray of plants one gets from the garden

center in the spring. 'Flat' where you are is an apartment that is rented,yes??

> Correct on all point, except the Brit spelling ;-)

> <....Severely pruned.........>

>

> As for eating kelp, however....I find it holds my sashimi filled sushi

together very nicely, thank-you, and do quite enjoy my seaweed, 'nori' that way!

> More " Surgery " here.

> Gayle

>

I can only fervently hope that there are varieties of kelp. The only

thing I know of bearing that name is like a small submarine tree, trunk

thick as a thumb and fronds which would make as good a shoe sole (or

better) than a SCOBY.

;-)

Chief Stirrer.

[Guest guest]

I guess my last message didn't get through-sorry for the double if it

does-, you said you like to put rosehips in your KT? How much do you put

in? And do you smash them up or what? Now that we have in abundance here in

Alaska! Jeani

kombucha tea@...: countryrose_ak@...: Sat,

21 Jun 2008 06:49:32 -0800Subject: RE: Green garden or meadow tea?

Actually, I would really love to hear about the different " experimental " teas

that we all have made. I know that there have been a few here and there that

have been mentioned, but I would like to write them down and try some of them.

Of course my " experimental garden/meadow " teas come from the local store-hah!

(except the peppermint vines I have growing in my hanging flower pots!) Course,

I could try the basil, thyme and other kitchen herbs I have growing in pots on

the deck, I wonder what that would taste like?! My husband likes an

apricot/white tea by Lipton's and adds some dehydrated ginger tea that is

sugared in with it that we get from the asian market in town-now that grows a

BEAUTIFUL scoby, albeit, since we are one of the " purists " hah! It is not used

for our REAL KT!!! (and once again for everybody who is new, Lipton's has

apparently told someone who is one of the original Kombucha selling companies

from the 1990's that they grow their teas without pesticides) My daughter's

favorite is a raspberry/peppermint tea. I tried the Rooibos tea, and wasn't real

fond of it, but I have read that many people like it very much. I've tried Earl

Grey tea, and Jasmine tea, Earl Grey being apparantly one of the ones that is

supposed to have an oil in it and therefore only recommended for experimental

scobies from everything I've read on the 'net. What are some other

favorites?Jeanikombucha tea@...:

rshank@...: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:17:49 -0400Subject: Re: Green

garden or meadow tea?Sorry for the late reply-didn't have much time yesterday.

Thank-you Bev for the full explanation. I will buy some real camelia senesis tea

for my next batch. However, this batch seems to be turning out good. It is still

just slightly sweet so I think I'll bottle it today.Do you think it will be

necessary to buy a new scoby?Would anyone in PA be willing to share one with me

if I do?Rodrick

Re: Green garden or meadow tea?Hi Rodrick and Everyone,Anyone can use

whatever they want and call it Kombucha, however mostof us have found that the

best way to make the Kombucha which is knownto have beneficial healing

properties, is to follow the traditionalrecipe which calls for using regular

tea:....black, green, oolong andwhite from the Camelia Sinensis plant...since

that is the kombuchathat most of the research we have available was based on.

Does thatmean you can't use other herbs....of course not, - there is a

bookwritten by Harald Tietze about the use of many different herbs

withKombucha.However, since whatever you use will change the constituents of

thefinal product if you use something other than Camelia Sinensis it maychange

your Kombucha in unexpected ways....some beneficial and somenot. For example,

Gunther and many others recommend not usingany plant with a volatile oil

such as peppermint as that caneventually weaken the Kombucha.When we share

Kombucha with other list members we ask that youindicate if your Kombucha has

been made with teas other than thetraditional Camelia Sinensis to that people

know what they are getting. Happy Healthy Brewing!Peace, Love and Harmony,Bev.

[Guest guest]

My all time favorite ( to date) is 50% black ( vanilla flavored) and 50%

rooibus. Next comes an even split with black(vanilla), green(jasmine) and

white. Then comes any combination of teas to which Hibiscus flowers are

added after bottling. My tastes keep evolving as I try more experments,

so ask again in a couple months and the list may have changed.

zoe

Jeani wrote

> Actually, I would really love to hear about the different

> " experimental " teas that we all have made. I know that there have

> been a few here and there that have been mentioned, but I would like

> to write them down and try some of them. Of course my " experimental

> garden/meadow " teas come from the local store-hah! (except the

> peppermint vines I have growing in my hanging flower pots!) Course,

> I could try the basil, thyme and other kitchen herbs I have growing

> in pots on the deck, I wonder what that would taste like?! My

> husband likes an apricot/white tea by Lipton's and adds some

> dehydrated ginger tea that is sugared in with it that we get from

> the asian market in town-now that grows a BEAUTIFUL scoby, albeit,

> since we are one of the " purists " hah! It is not used for our REAL

> KT!!! (and once again for everybody who is new, Lipton's has

> apparently told someone who is one of the original Kombucha selling

> companies from the 1990's that they grow their teas without

> pesticides) My daughter's favorite is a raspberry/peppermint tea. I

> tried the Rooibos tea, and wasn't real fond of it, but I have read

> that many people like it very much. I've tried Earl Grey tea, and

> Jasmine tea, Earl Grey being apparantly one of the ones that is

> supposed to have an oil in it and therefore only recommended for

> experimental scobies from everything I've read on the 'net. What are some

other favorites?Jeani

[Guest guest]

Jeani wrote:

> Yes, Vickie, it cleanses the blood, has iron in it for those who Although I

won't be adding any to my KT!http://www.seaweed.net/default.htmlVickie in VAI

also like to use the Nori seaweed ground up with seasame seeds with my " fresh "

tuna steaks. My my, I guess I do like seaweed without the capsule!!

>

>

Just been for a squint, knock the " Vickie " off the end of the link.

Else no worky.

;-)

[Guest guest]

Jeani wrote:

> I guess my last message didn't get through-sorry for the double if it

does-, you said you like to put rosehips in your KT? How much do you put

in? And do you smash them up or what? Now that we have in abundance here in

Alaska! Jeani

>

>

> Not quite, Jeani.

It befell thusly:-

Some time ago some-one advocated addition of Hibiscus flowers to 2nd

brew. Since they don't show up in " A bun dance " here, while looking for

a suitable alternative I found some herbal stuff which on closer

scrutiny turned out to be 50:50 Rosehip/Hibiscus " Natural caffeine free

herbal infusions " .

Since Hibiscus in this neck-o-the-woods is about as plentiful as Rocking

horse manure I have, to date been using that. Nice it is too about 1/2

that and 1/2 C sinensis.

.

{¦;¬))

[Guest guest]

> NO, NO, NO. I not a guru at all. Just because I talk alot doesn't

mean >I'm a guru.

I know how that goes. Guilty here also.

> NEVER TASTED KT YET!!!!!!

>

ROTFL.

But I hope you try it soon.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Btw, I did bottle my first batch today though. So I got to taste halfway-done

stuff. I was sour and sweet at the same time. A little like citrus tea. I hope

in a few days I'll get to taste the real KT. I guess the purists would call it

" liquid " . LOL

Rodrick

Re: Green garden or meadow tea?

> NO, NO, NO. I not a guru at all. Just because I talk alot doesn't

mean >I'm a guru.

I know how that goes. Guilty here also.

> NEVER TASTED KT YET!!!!!!

>

ROTFL.

But I hope you try it soon.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Zoe, I'll try your favorites, and particularly the one with the rooibos

tea (I can't let the rest of it go to waste) Also, looking back at my writing

below, I think I might try an herbal KT with the thyme, basil, etc. It might

make for an interesting marinade for meats! Jeani

kombucha tea@...: mtnwalker2b@...: Sat, 21

Jun 2008 11:45:28 -0400Subject: Re: Green garden or meadow tea?

My all time favorite ( to date) is 50% black ( vanilla flavored) and 50%

rooibus. Next comes an even split with black(vanilla), green(jasmine) and white.

Then comes any combination of teas to which Hibiscus flowers are added after

bottling. My tastes keep evolving as I try more experments, so ask again in a

couple months and the list may have changed. :)zoeJeani wrote> Actually, I would

really love to hear about the different> " experimental " teas that we all have

made. I know that there have> been a few here and there that have been

mentioned, but I would like> to write them down and try some of them. Of course

my " experimental> garden/meadow " teas come from the local store-hah! (except

the> peppermint vines I have growing in my hanging flower pots!) Course,> I

could try the basil, thyme and other kitchen herbs I have growing> in pots on

the deck, I wonder what that would taste like?! My> husband likes an

apricot/white tea by Lipton's and adds some> dehydrated ginger tea that is

sugared in with it that we get from> the asian market in town-now that grows a

BEAUTIFUL scoby, albeit,> since we are one of the " purists " hah! It is not used

for our REAL> KT!!! (and once again for everybody who is new, Lipton's has>

apparently told someone who is one of the original Kombucha selling> companies

from the 1990's that they grow their teas without> pesticides) My daughter's

favorite is a raspberry/peppermint tea. I> tried the Rooibos tea, and wasn't

real fond of it, but I have read> that many people like it very much. I've tried

Earl Grey tea, and> Jasmine tea, Earl Grey being apparantly one of the ones that

is> supposed to have an oil in it and therefore only recommended for>

experimental scobies from everything I've read on the 'net. What are some other

favorites?Jeani

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[Guest guest]

O Yes, I use KT, Kefir and the whey for marinades, lovely stuff and

with the added flavors will be even more interesting.

The thyme and basil should be good for headaches I would think.

zoe

Jeani wrote

> Thanks, Zoe, I'll try your favorites, and particularly the one with

> the rooibos tea (I can't let the rest of it go to waste) Also,

> looking back at my writing below, I think I might try an herbal KT

> with the thyme, basil, etc. It might make for an interesting marinade for

meats! Jeani

>

[Guest guest]

One more thought on the subject if you will bear with me. The

following is from happyherbalist.com. This is IMO a reliable source of

information about kombucha. As I understand it, if you do not use

camellia sinensis in your kombucha, the scoby can degrade over time,

and needs to be brought back into balance with the camellia sinensis.

Anita

Herbal Teas

Traditionally Kombucha is brewed using only Camellia Sinensis However,

Kombucha researcher and authors (Guenther s, Harald Tietz)

reported good results using Rooibos and other " herbal teas " as it is

the nitrogen in the tea that is used by the kombucha to feed on. In

America anything that is dunk into hot water is referred to as a

" tea " . We refer to Camellia Sinensis as real tea and to everything

else as herbal tea. When using herbal teas in making Kombucha Tea we

believe one should add a small amount (25%) of real tea with (75%)

herbal tea (like Rooibos). Alternatively we suggest brewing 3 brews

using only a herbal tea like Rooibos and every 4th brew using real tea.

>

> It is a small plant that gets about a foot high.We make concentrate

and put it in the freezer to use in the winter. One kind is spearmint

and the other is peppermint.

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita, I'm sorry, if I misunderstood you, I thought you didn't realize we had

already mentioned to keep " experimental " experimental and the " real thing " the

real thing-I apologize-as I was mislead by something that you said in your first

paragraph, and thought that you were assuming that we all just kept brewing with

herbal teas instead of the " real " teas. Forgive me-Please? Thanks, Jeani

kombucha tea@...: a1hellman@...: Sun, 22 Jun

2008 20:25:16 +0000Subject: Re: Green garden or meadow tea?

Thank you, jeani. I did read it all. Just thought I could contributesome

information as well.Anita>> > Hi Anita, this was actually a VERY long

discussion in which it wassaid that you need to use a totally separate scoby for

your " experimental " teas, as it would change the structure of the scoby.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Anita, I'm sorry, if I misunderstood you, I thought you didn't realize we had

already mentioned to keep " experimental " experimental and the " real thing " the

real thing-I apologize-as I was mislead by something that you said in your first

paragraph, and thought that you were assuming that we all just kept brewing with

herbal teas instead of the " real " teas. Forgive me-Please? Thanks, Jeani

kombucha tea@...: a1hellman@...: Sun, 22 Jun

2008 20:25:16 +0000Subject: Re: Green garden or meadow tea?

Thank you, jeani. I did read it all. Just thought I could contributesome

information as well.Anita>> > Hi Anita, this was actually a VERY long

discussion in which it wassaid that you need to use a totally separate scoby for

your " experimental " teas, as it would change the structure of the scoby.

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