Re: Flip-top bottles and carbonation- also the use of piloncello sugar

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Hijacking? What's that? I thought this was where everybody shared their

thoughts and questions on kt!!! Thank-you for sharing with us, Frantz, I am

glad to hear that you've finally found what works for you with flip-top bottles.

I had read a recipe using piloncello sugar, and even went so far as to buy some,

but have not tried it yet. The person that I read about it said it was really

good as well, you've just encouraged me to do an experimental batch with it!

hanks for the encouragement in that area! Incidentally, are there any others out

there who have also used this sugar with their kt? I would really like to hear

from you about this. It is interesting that you have the high heat of 85

degrees, and yet it took 2 weeks to produce a good carbonation that didn't fizz

all over. I left one of mine to carbonate for 5 days, and had 1/4 of the bottle

get lost down the sides. (This was a store bought kt bottle) I'm thinking that

maybe your flip-top bottles were doing their job and burping themselves, and you

just didn't realize it, and 2 weeks later you drank the wonderful tasting

result?! You also mention that it takes a long time brewing, even in 85 degree

temperatures, is it because you like it more vinegary than sweet? If perhaps

you do prefer it that way (nothing wrong with that!) perhaps this is why you

have had trouble having fizziness when you are ready to bottle up? When I have

the heating pad on under my fermenting kt, it is pretty well a constant 82

degrees F. and it only takes about 5 days, and I'm ready to bottle up. Jeani

kombucha tea@...: frantzgm@...: Tue, 1 Jul

2008 15:03:18 -0700Subject: Re: Flip-top bottles and carbonation report

HiI will share my results with the collective.. Hope I am not hijacking your

thread Jeani :)My brews have never been fizzy after brewing... a to 3 days in a

flip-top bottles brings a certain amount of carbonation but not that much... I

had this morning however, some KT that were left for 2 weeks and let me tell you

it was an experience.. The tea was a Pu-Errh made with Organic Piloncello (Raw

Cane Sugar).. This was one of the most delicious drink, not KT, DRINKS, I've

ever had.. Just like Champagne and bubbly like it, a dry robust texture and

taste. I had it well chilled,(Questions to the KT gurus: Does chilling the KT

has any negative effects on the Probiotics ?). The bottle opened up with a loud

pop but no volcano-like spills.. I think I will stick to this protocol.. 2

weeks with the flip-top has done it for me!! Finally KT the way I like it!!!My

SCOBYs which came from Zoe W. produce baby SCOBY in one (1) day but brewing

time is at least 10 days under really hot (>85 F) climate.. I have varied the

amount of tea and sugar, reducing it to 6 teaspoons and 1 cup of sugar, it took

almost the same amount of time for a relatively weak KT . I like my Kombucha to

have a strong tea flavor, I use at times up to 15 teaspoons of tea... 10 days

minimum and often 14 days... I am OK with that.. The results are extremely tasty

but the carbonation i have gotten after 2 weeks (no burping for my brews... in

flip-top bottles have raised my results to unexpected heights...Frantz

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just signed on here. would someone be willing to fill me in on just what are

these " flip-top bottles " where to get them etc. is a picture possible?

i brew with something called " organic dehydrated cane juice " which i'm guessing

may be equivalent to piloncello sugar. i started buying it in bulk because it

was the nearest thing i could find to organic white sugar (which i'd only run

into once years ago in tiny pricey boxes). i like it a lot. it gives the brew a

rich complex taste that i enjoy and works well with black or green tea. the

kombucha organisms seem to like it too. usually get pretty good carbonation but

it's inconsistent.

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Gayle

RE: Flip-top bottles and carbonation- also the use of

piloncello sugar

>

> just signed on here. would someone be willing to fill me in on just what

> are these " flip-top bottles " where to get them etc. is a picture possible?

>

> i brew with something called " organic dehydrated cane juice " which i'm

> guessing may be equivalent to piloncello sugar. i started buying it in

> bulk because it was the nearest thing i could find to organic white sugar

> (which i'd only run into once years ago in tiny pricey boxes). i like it a

> lot. it gives the brew a rich complex taste that i enjoy and works well

> with black or green tea. the kombucha organisms seem to like it too.

> usually get pretty good carbonation but it's inconsistent.

[Guest guest]

Oops...where to get them....IKEA

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50108908

Or buy the beer...drink it or not and save the bottle....

Gayle

RE: Flip-top bottles and carbonation- also the use of

> piloncello sugar

>

>

>>

>> just signed on here. would someone be willing to fill me in on just what

>> are these " flip-top bottles " where to get them etc. is a picture

>> possible?

>>

>> i brew with something called " organic dehydrated cane juice " which i'm

>> guessing may be equivalent to piloncello sugar. i started buying it in

>> bulk because it was the nearest thing i could find to organic white sugar

>> (which i'd only run into once years ago in tiny pricey boxes). i like it

>> a

>> lot. it gives the brew a rich complex taste that i enjoy and works well

>> with black or green tea. the kombucha organisms seem to like it too.

>> usually get pretty good carbonation but it's inconsistent.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane, piloncello is something a little bit different than organic dehydrated

or evaporated cane juice (which is what I use with my kt.) Although not an

expert on it, it is raw cane sugar, and is very dark, (having a higher dosage of

molasses in it, and therefore I would suspect has a higher level of nutrients in

it.) It has been shaped by a mold into what looks like a little bit like a bell,

and there are 8 of these 1 1/2 in. big " bells " in the package I have (not very

much at all for the price) I just opened my package to smell it, and I do

believe I am right, it smells very much like molasses. Since I am not real fond

of molasses, we will have to see whether I like kt brewed in it! Hah! I also

buy my organic evaporated cane juice sugar in bulk by the 50 lb. bag, it is soo

much cheaper that way. If I do decide I like the piloncello sugar, it will

definitely have to be for only an extra special treat at times, because it is

too expensive for me to use in 6 1/2 gallons of kt each week. I have heard that

you can also find the pilncello sugar in the mexican foods section of a grocery

store. Jeani

kombucha tea@...: jane_flurry@...: Tue, 1 Jul

2008 16:12:52 -0700Subject: RE: Flip-top bottles and carbonation- also the

use of piloncello sugar

i brew with something called " organic dehydrated cane juice " which i'm guessing

may be equivalent to piloncello sugar. i started buying it in bulk because it

was the nearest thing i could find to organic white sugar

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G S Marks wrote:

> Oops...where to get them....IKEA

> http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50108908

> Or buy the beer...drink it or not and save the bottle....

>

> Gayle

>