OT Fermented Foods: KT, Kefir, Kimchi and others

[Guest guest]

Hi

Thus post was prompted by the excellent post from , I copied below

I have been brewing KT for a year now and drink it regualrly. I also have

embarked on a fermented food adventure and consume Kefir daily and Kimchi from

time to time. I am interested in understanding how the Probiotics " make " it to

the GI tract.

I also would like to know the impact of so many acids on our teeth. Mine are

fine so far but I wonder if all these acidic food (I know they become alkaline

when digested) but in the mouth, they do feel acidic to me and must have some

not so good interaction with our teeth. What should be the protocol on this

specific issue. Teeth health?

This is OT but would concern all all KT drinkers IMHO.

As usual welcoming reply from everyone

Frantz

Beckman <sehrgut@...> wrote:

<snip>.I suppose, as I was mentioned, I ought to make an appearance as well eh?

*grin*The major intestinal benefit from kombucha comes not from its probiota

(since, unlike kefir, most -- not all, but most -- kombucha microbiota

do not survive the stomach), but from the short-chain fatty acids

(SCFAs) produced by fermentation: especially acetic, propionic, and

butyric acids. These are the same acids produced by fiber fermentation

in the colon by our native coloniforms.

Colonocytes (the cells lining your colon) much prefer to get their

energy from SCFAs than from glucose, and can absorb those released by

colonic bacteria. More SCFAs equals happier colonocytes equals (among

other things) less constipation and less colon cancer risk (since

happier cells repair DNA damage and mutations more readily).

The change in stool most kombucha newbies notice (and occasionally

write to the list about in worried tones) is due to your colonocytes

being happier than ever.

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[Guest guest]

I asked a biologist friend of mine this once, as i know stomach acid has a

ph of 1 and designed to kill bugs in food, how do probiotics survive?

her answer? They don't. Its their offpring that are protected enough to

survive stomach acid and make it to the gut.

I for one was happy knowing my basic understanding of biology was not

faulty, and that it did actually make sense.

Caitilin

On Feb 8, 2008 3:10 PM, Frantz Mathias <frantzgm@...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> Thus post was prompted by the excellent post from , I copied below

>

> I have been brewing KT for a year now and drink it regualrly. I also have

> embarked on a fermented food adventure and consume Kefir daily and Kimchi

> from time to time. I am interested in understanding how the Probiotics

> " make " it to the GI tract.

> I also would like to know the impact of so many acids on our teeth. Mine

> are fine so far but I wonder if all these acidic food (I know they become

> alkaline when digested) but in the mouth, they do feel acidic to me and must

> have some not so good interaction with our teeth. What should be the

> protocol on this specific issue. Teeth health?

>

> This is OT but would concern all all KT drinkers IMHO.

>

> As usual welcoming reply from everyone

>

> Frantz

>

> Beckman <sehrgut@... <sehrgut%40marketweighton.com>>

> wrote:

> <snip>.I suppose, as I was mentioned, I ought to make an appearance as

> well eh? *grin*The major intestinal benefit from kombucha comes not from its

> probiota

> (since, unlike kefir, most -- not all, but most -- kombucha microbiota

> do not survive the stomach), but from the short-chain fatty acids

> (SCFAs) produced by fermentation: especially acetic, propionic, and

> butyric acids. These are the same acids produced by fiber fermentation

> in the colon by our native coloniforms.

>

> Colonocytes (the cells lining your colon) much prefer to get their

> energy from SCFAs than from glucose, and can absorb those released by

> colonic bacteria. More SCFAs equals happier colonocytes equals (among

> other things) less constipation and less colon cancer risk (since

> happier cells repair DNA damage and mutations more readily).

>

> The change in stool most kombucha newbies notice (and occasionally

> write to the list about in worried tones) is due to your colonocytes

> being happier than ever.

>

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> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it

> now.

>

>