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Our doctor suggested we get one for Shelby. Do you mind my asking how

much we can look to spend? Your research is so appreciated -- we have no

idea where to start.

Thank you!

Missy

[ ] Saunas

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> when buying a Sauna for my children, I looked for one that had only nature

untreated wood, No installation that with heating would off gas, no glue

etc... and one whos heat was not steam.

> Therefore I have a Infar=red Sauna, which is solid cedar with no glue or

installation,. It seats four and has windows and music.,

> Infar-red Saunas, have a heat source using infarred heat, which I feel is

more healthy. after the sauna, we soak in baking soda bath. inorder to bathe

off toxin which come from your biggest toxifing organ, YOUR skin. There are

times when I would give them a break using a oxygen consentrator w/ mask.

this provides 80% oxygen, inorder that one does not become oxygen depended.

> Sincerely

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> The mom of four

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> Our doctor suggested we get one for Shelby. Do you mind my asking how

>much we can look to spend? Your research is so appreciated -- we have no

>idea where to start.

Missy,

Check out the saunas from Heavenly Heat (1-800-mysauna). Bob at

Heavenly Heat is very knowledgeable about saunas and will be able to

give

you a lot of information. I have purchased a unit from them and have

been

very happy with it. Heavenly Heat saunas seem to be the unit of choice

for most of the environmental centers around the world that use saunas

and the chemically sensitive population. They use poplar wood which

offgasses less than other woods normally used. All the other units I

checked out had issues (ie. hidden plywood, glues, etc) that steered me

away from them. The unit I purchased is 74 " by 49 " and cost around

$4,000. The American Environmental Health Foundation (aehf.com) has

more information on their website.

Dave

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Thanks!

Missy

[ ] Re: Saunas

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> > Our doctor suggested we get one for Shelby. Do you mind my asking

how

> >much we can look to spend? Your research is so appreciated -- we have no

> >idea where to start.

>

> Missy,

>

> Check out the saunas from Heavenly Heat (1-800-mysauna). Bob at

> Heavenly Heat is very knowledgeable about saunas and will be able to

> give

> you a lot of information. I have purchased a unit from them and have

> been

> very happy with it. Heavenly Heat saunas seem to be the unit of choice

> for most of the environmental centers around the world that use saunas

> and the chemically sensitive population. They use poplar wood which

> offgasses less than other woods normally used. All the other units I

> checked out had issues (ie. hidden plywood, glues, etc) that steered me

> away from them. The unit I purchased is 74 " by 49 " and cost around

> $4,000. The American Environmental Health Foundation (aehf.com) has

> more information on their website.

>

> Dave

>

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In a message dated 9/6/00 5:31:36 PM Central Daylight Time,

sjcsydney@... writes:

<< May I ask how old the children are whose parents are considering or who

have

used saunas? I ask because I asked my daughter's pediatrician/allergist why

she hadn't perspired very much when she'd been in a dry sauna for 20 minutes

and he was very concerned that we had even tried such a thing. He said he

would never recommend sauna for a child as they could become heat struck (or

something like that). I, myself, wondered if her " cooling system " was

working correctly since she hadn't sweat in such a hot situation.

what has been your experience and/or advice? >>

The therauputic sauna treatment is done at a lower temp than regular sauna

and the person is watched very closely, provided with electrolytes and other

nutritional support. My son is 8 and his doc recommended that we do it. We

plan to as soon as we get the funding approved to buy one (hopefully this

week). I also plan to be in there with him so I can closely monitor him.

As for her not sweating, that could be a sign that she has problems detoxing.

Years ago, a classical homeopath was alarmed that I rarely sweated. He said

it possibly indicated over toxicity and later diagnosed the metals toxicity.

Years later, and much done to clean out my body and heal, I do sweat but

sometimes only on one side -- strange huh?

Gaylen

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May I ask how old the children are whose parents are considering or who have

used saunas? I ask because I asked my daughter's pediatrician/allergist why

she hadn't perspired very much when she'd been in a dry sauna for 20 minutes

and he was very concerned that we had even tried such a thing. He said he

would never recommend sauna for a child as they could become heat struck (or

something like that). I, myself, wondered if her " cooling system " was

working correctly since she hadn't sweat in such a hot situation.

what has been your experience and/or advice?

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>

> >

> > > Our doctor suggested we get one for Shelby. Do you mind my asking

> how

> > >much we can look to spend? Your research is so appreciated -- we have

no

> > >idea where to start.

> >

> > Missy,

> >

> > Check out the saunas from Heavenly Heat (1-800-mysauna). Bob at

> > Heavenly Heat is very knowledgeable about saunas and will be able to

> > give

> > you a lot of information. I have purchased a unit from them and have

> > been

> > very happy with it. Heavenly Heat saunas seem to be the unit of choice

> > for most of the environmental centers around the world that use saunas

> > and the chemically sensitive population. They use poplar wood which

> > offgasses less than other woods normally used. All the other units I

> > checked out had issues (ie. hidden plywood, glues, etc) that steered me

> > away from them. The unit I purchased is 74 " by 49 " and cost around

> > $4,000. The American Environmental Health Foundation (aehf.com) has

> > more information on their website.

> >

> > Dave

> >

> >

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My kids only go in 5 to ten minutes

Kathy

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>May I ask how old the children are whose parents are considering or who

have

>used saunas? I ask because I asked my daughter's pediatrician/allergist

why

>she hadn't perspired very much when she'd been in a dry sauna for 20

minutes

>and he was very concerned that we had even tried such a thing. He said he

>would never recommend sauna for a child as they could become heat struck

(or

>something like that). I, myself, wondered if her " cooling system " was

>working correctly since she hadn't sweat in such a hot situation.

> what has been your experience and/or advice?

>

>

> [ ] Re: Saunas

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>>

>> >

>> > > Our doctor suggested we get one for Shelby. Do you mind my asking

>> how

>> > >much we can look to spend? Your research is so appreciated -- we have

>no

>> > >idea where to start.

>> >

>> > Missy,

>> >

>> > Check out the saunas from Heavenly Heat (1-800-mysauna). Bob at

>> > Heavenly Heat is very knowledgeable about saunas and will be able to

>> > give

>> > you a lot of information. I have purchased a unit from them and have

>> > been

>> > very happy with it. Heavenly Heat saunas seem to be the unit of choice

>> > for most of the environmental centers around the world that use saunas

>> > and the chemically sensitive population. They use poplar wood which

>> > offgasses less than other woods normally used. All the other units I

>> > checked out had issues (ie. hidden plywood, glues, etc) that steered me

>> > away from them. The unit I purchased is 74 " by 49 " and cost around

>> > $4,000. The American Environmental Health Foundation (aehf.com) has

>> > more information on their website.

>> >

>> > Dave

>> >

>> >

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Thank you, Gaylen. I'd never heard that before about the absense of

sweating. But she definitely DOES have great difficulty detoxifying

herself. I've had to remove all pigmented foods and foods high in sulpher

as well as dairy, gluten, nuts, sugar, - geez, you name it. AND she's

constipated so the toxins take their time getting out of her system that

way, too.

May I ask which side of your body you do sweat on? Sydney has had a

number of " irregularities or oddities " happen on the left side of her body.

And she has long been in the habit of removing only one shoe and sock -

ALWAYS the left.

As long as we're on the sweat issue, I found some time ago when I was

very disciplined and managed to cleanse myself out through dietary

intervention, I would still sweat but it never had any odor to it. Same

with my bm's - no odor there either.

I hope this is close enough to the detox issue to be of interest to you

all.

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> In a message dated 9/6/00 5:31:36 PM Central Daylight Time,

> sjcsydney@... writes:

>

> << May I ask how old the children are whose parents are considering or who

> have

> used saunas? I ask because I asked my daughter's pediatrician/allergist

why

> she hadn't perspired very much when she'd been in a dry sauna for 20

minutes

> and he was very concerned that we had even tried such a thing. He said

he

> would never recommend sauna for a child as they could become heat struck

(or

> something like that). I, myself, wondered if her " cooling system " was

> working correctly since she hadn't sweat in such a hot situation.

> what has been your experience and/or advice? >>

>

> The therauputic sauna treatment is done at a lower temp than regular sauna

> and the person is watched very closely, provided with electrolytes and

other

> nutritional support. My son is 8 and his doc recommended that we do it.

We

> plan to as soon as we get the funding approved to buy one (hopefully this

> week). I also plan to be in there with him so I can closely monitor him.

>

> As for her not sweating, that could be a sign that she has problems

detoxing.

> Years ago, a classical homeopath was alarmed that I rarely sweated. He

said

> it possibly indicated over toxicity and later diagnosed the metals

toxicity.

> Years later, and much done to clean out my body and heal, I do sweat but

> sometimes only on one side -- strange huh?

> Gaylen

>

>

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Hi Barb. He is 2 1/2 so he has been wal

king for a while now. What leads you to believe he is working with one side

of his brain only? Very interesting since he has had 3 concussions with loss

of conscienceness. Have you heard of this before? He has the left shoe and

sock off right now and has been this way for hours. Thanks, WendiRD

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In a message dated 9/3/00 10:14:26 PM Central Daylight Time,

hyperbaric1@... writes:

<< There are times when I would give them a break using a oxygen consentrator

w/ mask. this provides 80% oxygen, inorder that one does not become oxygen

depended. >>

Where does one get one of these?

Gaylen

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In a message dated 9/4/00 9:40:53 AM Central Daylight Time,

alexande@... writes:

<< Do you mind my asking how much we can look to spend? Your research is so

appreciated -- we have no idea where to start. >>

Our doc has recommended one that costs $750. It is made by a man who was

toxic and couldn't afford to buy the $2-3000 variety so he made his own and

how sells them. I've talked to one person who has this type and is very

happy with it. If you want the contact number, let me know.

Gaylen

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It probably means he's only working with one side of the brain at a time.

Does he crawl with a cross pattern, or just one side, then the other?

Barb

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>Okay. I can not believe I just read this. My son always takes off his

left

>sock and shoe ONLY. What is with this? His ot thinks it is funny,. I

>don't. WendiR

>

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This is so interesting. also had a violent near fatal reaction to his

Dtp at 10 months. I have tried to get him to crawl this morning but the only

time he did uit was so fast I could not tell if it was cross patterened.

Any other ideas I could share with his OT, I would be very grateful.

Thanks, WendiRD

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Wendi,

Have him crawl for you. He will crawl the way he did before he walked.

Watch to see if his pattern is homolateral--one side at a time, or

cross-pattern--opposite hand and knee. If he crawls homolaterally, he is

not working across the corpus callosum very well (the connectors between two

sides of the brain.) Kids who don't have a lot of connections in the middle

tend to do things one-sided.

How do I know? Because we did a type of therapy for our son for 5 years

commonly called " patterning " and the underlying philosophy was to build new

pathways through the brain. We helped a number of LD kids who were not

doing much with both hemispheres. If you want more info. on this, e-mail me

privately!

Barb

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>Hi Barb. He is 2 1/2 so he has been wal

>king for a while now. What leads you to believe he is working with one

side

>of his brain only? Very interesting since he has had 3 concussions with

loss

>of conscienceness. Have you heard of this before? He has the left shoe

and

>sock off right now and has been this way for hours. Thanks, WendiRD

>

>

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Hi I am new but is it some was the have seizure when the get there DTP I have

two with Autism and after the got there DPT the started jerky to one side and

it was on both kid to the left and my son has stop his but my daughter is

still doing her know the say she his having seizure she just went though her

first MRI and her second EEG but the first one was OK and the did nothing and

now the are geting bad again. STEFFNEY

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Gaylen:

Yes, please share any contact info you may have. I'm posting this to the

group as opposed to you personally in case anybody else wants this info.

The price sure is reasonable!

Missy

> In a message dated 9/4/00 9:40:53 AM Central Daylight Time,

> alexande@... writes:

>

> << Do you mind my asking how much we can look to spend? Your research is

so

> appreciated -- we have no idea where to start. >>

>

> Our doc has recommended one that costs $750. It is made by a man who was

> toxic and couldn't afford to buy the $2-3000 variety so he made his own

and

> how sells them. I've talked to one person who has this type and is very

> happy with it. If you want the contact number, let me know.

> Gaylen

>

>

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This may be a sensory thing. ,who had a seizure after his DPT at

three months, was hypersensitive to touch on one side of his body, and

hyposensitive on the other side. Cross pattern crawling, intensive sensory

therapy and lecithin granules helped him overcome this.

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>

>>

>>Okay. I can not believe I just read this. My son always takes off his

>left

>>sock and shoe ONLY. What is with this? His ot thinks it is funny,. I

>>don't. WendiR

>>

>>

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I did go to this site. Could you explain some things to me? How does the

program work? Are you trained or do you take your child to them? Is it

similar to OT? Do they believe in biomedical interventions as well?

Thanks, WendiRD

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www.handle.org worked wonders with propreoception for my kids

Kathy

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>

>>

>>Okay. I can not believe I just read this. My son always takes off his

>left

>>sock and shoe ONLY. What is with this? His ot thinks it is funny,. I

>>don't. WendiR

>>

>>

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My son almost died 11 days after his DPT (Which was also a bad lot pertussis

back in 1982). Febrile convulsions, screaming, fever internally of 105 for

several days, I lost my kid as soon as this occured....

Lost to autism. Please go to this site www.handle.org

Kathy

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>This is so interesting. also had a violent near fatal reaction to

his

>Dtp at 10 months. I have tried to get him to crawl this morning but the

only

>time he did uit was so fast I could not tell if it was cross patterened.

>Any other ideas I could share with his OT, I would be very grateful.

>Thanks, WendiRD

>

>

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Would other people whose kids had serious reactions to DPT please e-mail

me-I wonder how many of us there are.

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>

>>

>>This is so interesting. also had a violent near fatal reaction to

>his

>>Dtp at 10 months. I have tried to get him to crawl this morning but the

>only

>>time he did uit was so fast I could not tell if it was cross patterened.

>>Any other ideas I could share with his OT, I would be very grateful.

>>Thanks, WendiRD

>>

>>

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Lecithin is a source of phosphatides necessary for making acetylcholine, an

neurotransmitter important in memory/concentration. These phosphatides are

also necessary for making myelin. To be honest, was shaking and

turning blue at the time, and I gave him the lecithin because I hoped it

would prevent damage to the inside of his blood vessels from the violent

vasospasms. I had no clue about the brain end of things at that time. In

short-someone was looking out for Mike:) I only know that he could take the

ones labeled " protein extracted 95% phosphatides " The less pure ones caused

a soy allergy reaction.

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>Also, please tell me more about lecithin granuales. My son is 2 1/2 and

>weighs 28 lbs. for dosage info. What does this do? Thanks Again,

WendiRD

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Where do you get the granules? (As I sit and ponder YET ANOTHER

supplement...)

CA CHING

Kathy

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>

>>

>>Also, please tell me more about lecithin granuales. My son is 2 1/2 and

>>weighs 28 lbs. for dosage info. What does this do? Thanks Again,

>WendiRD

>>

>>

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