Re: Nick & Kate (was: Alpha Chain scramble - query needed on D word)

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I'm sorry if I offended Kate. As anyone can tell I too am having trouble understanding how this game works though, in different areas than Kate. Kate, if you read this, my suggestion would be to not have anxiety about the word scramble game and that it's really not worth putting so much thought into. Let's not be Socrates is all I'm asking. Maybe you could tell me more about yourself instead of asking questions about stuff I don't want to answer or, go to an "English Professors" forum if you are so interested in the English language. Inger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote: Please try to cool it now, Nick. That is very close to a personal attack. The link to the online English dictionary says: "dachshund • noun a breed of dog with a long body and very short legs. — ORIGIN German, ‘badger dog’ (the breed was originally used to dig badgers out of their setts)." As you can see, the word was originally German (just like Kindergarten) but is now part of the English language and is therefore in the English dictionary. So, as far as I can tell, you are BOTH right. Hope this settles the dispute. :-) IngerCo-administrator Re: Alpha Chain scramble - query needed on "D" wordMy point is; Your everyday verbiage does not include the words Dach or Shund if you are in fact an English speaking person. Dachshund is German and you are wrong. I admit that I spelled Dachshund wrong and

gave you the website where I got confused. How can you not understand that you could be wrong? Does it make you panic?Kate Gladstone <handwritingrepair@...> wrote: Re:On 3/8/06, a name <drumthis2001@...> wrote:> Thanx for the correction Kate. Still, you have just admitted that you do> not, in fact use the words found in the compound word "dachshund". You> proved my point.What point did you have? I couldn't deduce it from your messages. Yours for better letters, Kate Gladstone Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest handwritingrepair@... http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair 325 South Manning Boulevard Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA telephone 518/482-6763 AND REMEMBER ... you can order books through my

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I feel happy with the way Inger explained things, and I hope that Nick can too.

Re Nick's suggestion not to feel anxious about the game: I didn't (and

don't) feel anxious about the game. It sounds strange (to me) to learn

that someone decided I felt anxious.

I wanted to make sure of the rules of a game that interested me. For

me, that doesn't mean the same thing as feeling anxious. When people

say things that look (to me) like disliking me for wanting to make

sure of the rules, that does make me feel anxious.

Re " telling more about myself " - responding to a request or demand to

" tell about myself " makes me feel a lot like what somebody once called

a " self-narrating zoo exhibit. " For me, this holds especially true

when the other person appears to regard " telling about myself, " on

demand, as necessary or desirable in order to

I've told some things about myself already here, when the time, the

place, and the people felt right for me to tell these things. I'll

tell more, probably, the next time the situation feels right for me to

do so. Most of the things " about myself " that I sometimes want to tell

people, I consider personal and important enough that I do not tell

them to anyone whom I don't know a great deal better than I know the

other members of this listserv.

As time goes by, I hope to know at least some of you a little

better, and then I will feel comfortable telling some of of those

personal and important things. In the meantime, those who want to know

(some) more things about me may want to visit the " about Kate " page of

my web-site. You've probably noted that my e-mail sign-off gives the

URL of that web-site.

Yours for better letters,

Kate Gladstone

Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

handwritingrepair@...

http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

325 South Manning Boulevard

Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

telephone 518/482-6763

AND REMEMBER ...

you can order books through my site!

(Amazon.com link -

I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

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Kate:

> I feel happy with the way Inger explained things, and I hope that Nick can

> too.

Phew!! :-))

> Re Nick's suggestion not to feel anxious about the game: I didn't (and

don't) feel anxious about the game. It sounds strange (to me) to learn

that someone decided I felt anxious.

He just explained that it is because HE can feel anxious in such a

situation, and extrapolated that to possibly include you too.

> I wanted to make sure of the rules of a game that interested me. For

me, that doesn't mean the same thing as feeling anxious. When people

say things that look (to me) like disliking me for wanting to make

sure of the rules, that does make me feel anxious.

I don't think anyone dislikes you, but it seems you have managed to

inadvertently get on some members' nerves with that very persistent style of

questioning until you get every little unclarity sorted out to your personal

satisfaction. I guess that's an Aspie thing, and that you're not really

aware of where the limits are until you've already crossed them and got

someone miffed? If so, you're certainly not alone with that tendency. :-)

> Re " telling more about myself " - responding to a request or demand to

" tell about myself " makes me feel a lot like what somebody once called

a " self-narrating zoo exhibit. " For me, this holds especially true

when the other person appears to regard " telling about myself, " on

demand, as necessary or desirable in order to

I've told some things about myself already here, when the time, the

place, and the people felt right for me to tell these things. I'll

tell more, probably, the next time the situation feels right for me to

do so. Most of the things " about myself " that I sometimes want to tell

people, I consider personal and important enough that I do not tell

them to anyone whom I don't know a great deal better than I know the

other members of this listserv.

No need for you to feel pressured into telling more about yourself than you

feel comfortable to. You are not obliged to reply just because someone asks.

> As time goes by, I hope to know at least some of you a little

better, and then I will feel comfortable telling some of of those

personal and important things. In the meantime, those who want to know

(some) more things about me may want to visit the " about Kate " page of

my web-site. You've probably noted that my e-mail sign-off gives the

URL of that web-site.

Great, then Nick can have a look at that link if he wants to know.

Inger

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It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly personal -

just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you consider

this personal?

I am quite happy to tell people what I like dislike concerning food

etc and yet there are some things that to me are personal and I

wouldn't discuss them unless I knew a person fairly well - and very

doubtfull about discussing them on a forum.

I do get your reservations to some extent about providing personal

information, but I suppose it depends on your perspective of what

personal is - and maybe that differs from person to person?

>

> I feel happy with the way Inger explained things, and I hope that

Nick can too.

>

> Re Nick's suggestion not to feel anxious about the game: I didn't

(and

> don't) feel anxious about the game. It sounds strange (to me) to

learn

> that someone decided I felt anxious.

>

> I wanted to make sure of the rules of a game that interested me. For

> me, that doesn't mean the same thing as feeling anxious. When people

> say things that look (to me) like disliking me for wanting to make

> sure of the rules, that does make me feel anxious.

>

> Re " telling more about myself " - responding to a request or demand

to

> " tell about myself " makes me feel a lot like what somebody once

called

> a " self-narrating zoo exhibit. " For me, this holds especially true

> when the other person appears to regard " telling about myself, " on

> demand, as necessary or desirable in order to

>

> I've told some things about myself already here, when the time, the

> place, and the people felt right for me to tell these things. I'll

> tell more, probably, the next time the situation feels right for me

to

> do so. Most of the things " about myself " that I sometimes want to

tell

> people, I consider personal and important enough that I do not tell

> them to anyone whom I don't know a great deal better than I know the

> other members of this listserv.

> As time goes by, I hope to know at least some of you a little

> better, and then I will feel comfortable telling some of of those

> personal and important things. In the meantime, those who want to

know

> (some) more things about me may want to visit the " about Kate " page

of

> my web-site. You've probably noted that my e-mail sign-off gives the

> URL of that web-site.

>

>

> Yours for better letters,

> Kate Gladstone

> Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

> handwritingrepair@...

> http://learn.to/handwrite,

http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

> 325 South Manning Boulevard

> Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

> telephone 518/482-6763

> AND REMEMBER ...

> you can order books through my site!

> (Amazon.com link -

> I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

>

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My opinion on why Nick was asking you 'personal' questions was maybe

he thought you were being a little obsessive in asking questions

about the word game and wanted to redirect you(?) of course, he can

speak for himself.Just my 2 cents...Toni

>

> Re:

>

> > It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly

personal -

> > just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you

consider

> > this personal?

>

> I don't consider artistic taste (in architecture or anything else)

> " personal " - note that I replied, in some detail, to Nick's

question

> about my tastes in architecture.

> It seemed to me, though, that Nick asked for personal

> information specifically because I had *not* chosen to provide such

> information. It semed to me that he considered it somehow wrong of

me

> not to provide information like that. (In my experience, very often

> when someone asks " Why don't you do __________ ? " , this means " You

> should already have done it, without waiting for me to ask you, and

> you are very wrong because you did not do this already. For

instance,

> if a mother asks a child " Why don't you clean up your room? "

or " Why

> don't you write a letter to your grandmother to thank her for your

new

> ice-skates? " typically this does NOT mean what it literally sounds

> like - it does not mean " " Now is a good time to start doing this,

so

> perhaps you can get started on it " it means " You habitually avoid

> doing this thing - you should already have done this thing a long,

> long time ago - and you should have done it on your own initiative,

> without anyone having to suggest that you should do it - so you

have

> made a big mistake by letting this thing go undone for so long that

> now I have to actually suggest you should do it - what is wrong

with

> you, that you do not independently make up your mind to do these

very

> important and obvious things instead of waiting for a

> command/suggestion/reminder from a person like me who has so much

> better sense than you seem to have?! "

>

>

> Yours for better letters,

> Kate Gladstone

> Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

> handwritingrepair@...

> http://learn.to/handwrite,

http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

> 325 South Manning Boulevard

> Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

> telephone 518/482-6763

> AND REMEMBER ...

> you can order books through my site!

> (Amazon.com link -

> I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

>

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Whenever I put in the word Daschund instead of Dachshund, I sort of knew that someone else probably answered the first question. So, I didn't do it wholeheartedly. After I put "daschund" as the word unscrambled, Kate latched onto it as if it were still part of the game. I spelled it in un-scrambled form so that everyone would know that I made it to where no one could unscramble the word and that Toni or, whoever actually got the C answered could start on D for everyone to unscramble. I did not want to discuss my mistake any further and felt like I was being persecuted for spelling it the wrong way. Firstly, Kate told me I spelled it the wrong way. I just wanted to end my embarassment of having answered the C word late by responding with a short post. The post simply said I won't use "german" words when giving them for others to unscramble. I think it's ok for someone to be obsessed with correct spelling but, when it gets to criticizing me when I'm already embarassed, I call that

deliberate hassling. tsbthatsme <kbtoni@...> wrote: My opinion on why Nick was asking you 'personal' questions was maybe he thought you were being a little obsessive in asking questions about the word game and wanted to redirect you(?) of course, he can speak for himself.Just my 2 cents...Toni>> Re:> > > It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly personal -> > just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you consider> > this personal?> > I don't consider artistic taste (in architecture or anything else)> "personal" - note that I replied, in some detail, to Nick's question> about my tastes in

architecture.> It seemed to me, though, that Nick asked for personal> information specifically because I had *not* chosen to provide such> information. It semed to me that he considered it somehow wrong of me> not to provide information like that. (In my experience, very often> when someone asks "Why don't you do __________ ?", this means "You> should already have done it, without waiting for me to ask you, and> you are very wrong because you did not do this already. For instance,> if a mother asks a child "Why don't you clean up your room?" or "Why> don't you write a letter to your grandmother to thank her for your new> ice-skates?" typically this does NOT mean what it literally sounds> like - it does not mean " "Now is a good time to start doing this, so> perhaps you can get started on it" it means "You habitually avoid> doing

this thing - you should already have done this thing a long,> long time ago - and you should have done it on your own initiative,> without anyone having to suggest that you should do it - so you have> made a big mistake by letting this thing go undone for so long that> now I have to actually suggest you should do it - what is wrong with> you, that you do not independently make up your mind to do these very> important and obvious things instead of waiting for a> command/suggestion/reminder from a person like me who has so much> better sense than you seem to have?!"> > > Yours for better letters,> Kate Gladstone> Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest> handwritingrepair@...> http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair> 325 South Manning Boulevard> Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA> telephone 518/482-6763> AND REMEMBER ...> you can order books through my site!> (Amazon.com link -> I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)>

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Nick,

I don't think Kate meant to deliberately embarrass or hassle you (although that may have been the unfortunate result of her seeking clarification). Without being a mind-reader, she would not be able to know how you felt before you wrote it just now, so thanks for finally explaining how the situation made you feel.

No need to be embarrassed, really. We ALL make typos - usually a lot more embarrassing than yours - and no one but Kate seems to care one way or the other.

I hope you have noticed that she has quit asking now, and I have (through the dictionary link) established that the word dachshund IS in the English language (though of German origin just like many other imported words).

So, can we consider this misunderstanding cleared up, or is there anything more you wish to see happen for you to be able to feel satisfied?

Inger

Re: Re: Nick & Kate (was: Alpha Chain scramble - query needed on "D" word)

Whenever I put in the word Daschund instead of Dachshund, I sort of knew that someone else probably answered the first question. So, I didn't do it wholeheartedly. After I put "daschund" as the word unscrambled, Kate latched onto it as if it were still part of the game. I spelled it in un-scrambled form so that everyone would know that I made it to where no one could unscramble the word and that Toni or, whoever actually got the C answered could start on D for everyone to unscramble. I did not want to discuss my mistake any further and felt like I was being persecuted for spelling it the wrong way. Firstly, Kate told me I spelled it the wrong way. I just wanted to end my embarassment of having answered the C word late by responding with a short post. The post simply said I won't use "german" words when giving them for others to unscramble. I think it's ok for someone to be obsessed with correct spelling but, when it gets to criticizing me when I'm already embarassed, I call that deliberate hassling. tsbthatsme <kbtoni@...> wrote: My opinion on why Nick was asking you 'personal' questions was maybe he thought you were being a little obsessive in asking questions about the word game and wanted to redirect you(?) of course, he can speak for himself.Just my 2 cents...Toni>> Re:> > > It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly personal -> > just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you consider> > this personal?> > I don't consider artistic taste (in architecture or anything else)> "personal" - note that I replied, in some detail, to Nick's question> about my tastes in architecture.> It seemed to me, though, that Nick asked for personal> information specifically because I had *not* chosen to provide such> information. It semed to me that he considered it somehow wrong of me> not to provide information like that. (In my experience, very often> when someone asks "Why don't you do __________ ?", this means "You> should already have done it, without waiting for me to ask you, and> you are very wrong because you did not do this already. For instance,> if a mother asks a child "Why don't you clean up your room?" or "Why> don't you write a letter to your grandmother to thank her for your new> ice-skates?" typically this does NOT mean what it literally sounds> like - it does not mean " "Now is a good time to start doing this, so> perhaps you can get started on it" it means "You habitually avoid> doing this thing - you should already have done this thing a long,> long time ago - and you should have done it on your own initiative,> without anyone having to suggest that you should do it - so you have> made a big mistake by letting this thing go undone for so long that> now I have to actually suggest you should do it - what is wrong with> you, that you do not independently make up your mind to do these very> important and obvious things instead of waiting for a> command/suggestion/reminder from a person like me who has so much> better sense than you seem to have?!"> > > Yours for better letters,> Kate Gladstone> Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest> handwritingrepair@...> http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair> 325 South Manning Boulevard> Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA> telephone 518/482-6763> AND REMEMBER ...> you can order books through my site!> (Amazon.com link -> I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)>

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-Thank you for your explanation. Sorry for my assumption. -- In

, a name <drumthis2001@...> wrote:

>

> Whenever I put in the word Daschund instead of Dachshund, I sort

of knew that someone else probably answered the first question. So,

I didn't do it wholeheartedly. After I put " daschund " as the word

unscrambled, Kate latched onto it as if it were still part of the

game. I spelled it in un-scrambled form so that everyone would know

that I made it to where no one could unscramble the word and that

Toni or, whoever actually got the C answered could start on D for

everyone to unscramble. I did not want to discuss my mistake any

further and felt like I was being persecuted for spelling it the

wrong way. Firstly, Kate told me I spelled it the wrong way. I just

wanted to end my embarassment of having answered the C word late by

responding with a short post. The post simply said I won't

use " german " words when giving them for others to unscramble. I

think it's ok for someone to be obsessed with correct spelling but,

when it gets to criticizing me when I'm already embarassed, I call

that

> deliberate hassling.

>

> tsbthatsme <kbtoni@...> wrote: My opinion on why Nick was asking

you 'personal' questions was maybe

> he thought you were being a little obsessive in asking questions

> about the word game and wanted to redirect you(?) of course, he

can

> speak for himself.Just my 2 cents...Toni

> >

> > Re:

> >

> > > It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly

> personal -

> > > just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you

> consider

> > > this personal?

> >

> > I don't consider artistic taste (in architecture or anything

else)

> > " personal " - note that I replied, in some detail, to Nick's

> question

> > about my tastes in architecture.

> > It seemed to me, though, that Nick asked for personal

> > information specifically because I had *not* chosen to provide

such

> > information. It semed to me that he considered it somehow wrong

of

> me

> > not to provide information like that. (In my experience, very

often

> > when someone asks " Why don't you do __________ ? " , this

means " You

> > should already have done it, without waiting for me to ask you,

and

> > you are very wrong because you did not do this already. For

> instance,

> > if a mother asks a child " Why don't you clean up your room? "

> or " Why

> > don't you write a letter to your grandmother to thank her for

your

> new

> > ice-skates? " typically this does NOT mean what it literally

sounds

> > like - it does not mean " " Now is a good time to start doing

this,

> so

> > perhaps you can get started on it " it means " You habitually avoid

> > doing this thing - you should already have done this thing a

long,

> > long time ago - and you should have done it on your own

initiative,

> > without anyone having to suggest that you should do it - so you

> have

> > made a big mistake by letting this thing go undone for so long

that

> > now I have to actually suggest you should do it - what is wrong

> with

> > you, that you do not independently make up your mind to do these

> very

> > important and obvious things instead of waiting for a

> > command/suggestion/reminder from a person like me who has so much

> > better sense than you seem to have?! "

> >

> >

> > Yours for better letters,

> > Kate Gladstone

> > Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

> > handwritingrepair@

> > http://learn.to/handwrite,

> http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

> > 325 South Manning Boulevard

> > Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

> > telephone 518/482-6763

> > AND REMEMBER ...

> > you can order books through my site!

> > (Amazon.com link -

> > I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

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I guess I overreacted somewhat. Yes, it's cleared up. Inger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote: Nick, I don't think Kate meant to deliberately embarrass or hassle you (although that may have been the unfortunate result of her seeking clarification). Without being a mind-reader, she would not be able to know how you felt before you wrote it just now, so thanks for finally explaining how the situation made you feel. No need to be embarrassed, really. We ALL make typos - usually a lot more embarrassing than yours - and no one but Kate seems to care one way

or the other. I hope you have noticed that she has quit asking now, and I have (through the dictionary link) established that the word dachshund IS in the English language (though of German origin just like many other imported words). So, can we consider this misunderstanding cleared up, or is there anything more you wish to see happen for you to be able to feel satisfied? Inger Re: Re: Nick & Kate (was: Alpha Chain scramble - query needed on "D" word) Whenever I put in the word Daschund instead of Dachshund, I sort of knew that someone else probably answered the first question. So, I didn't do it wholeheartedly. After I put "daschund" as the word unscrambled, Kate latched onto it as if it were still part of the game. I spelled it in un-scrambled form so that everyone would know that I made it to where no one could unscramble the word and that Toni or, whoever actually got the C answered could start on D for everyone to unscramble. I did not want to discuss my mistake any further and felt like I was being persecuted for

spelling it the wrong way. Firstly, Kate told me I spelled it the wrong way. I just wanted to end my embarassment of having answered the C word late by responding with a short post. The post simply said I won't use "german" words when giving them for others to unscramble. I think it's ok for someone to be obsessed with correct spelling but, when it gets to criticizing me when I'm already embarassed, I call that deliberate hassling. tsbthatsme <kbtoni@...> wrote: My opinion on why Nick was asking you 'personal' questions was maybe he thought you were being a little obsessive in asking questions about the word game and wanted to redirect you(?) of course, he can speak for himself.Just my 2 cents...Toni>> Re:>

> > It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly personal -> > just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you consider> > this personal?> > I don't consider artistic taste (in architecture or anything else)> "personal" - note that I replied, in some detail, to Nick's question> about my tastes in architecture.> It seemed to me, though, that Nick asked for personal> information specifically because I had *not* chosen to provide such> information. It semed to me that he considered it somehow wrong of me> not to provide information like that. (In my experience, very often> when someone asks "Why don't you do __________ ?", this means "You> should already have done it, without waiting for me to ask you, and> you are very wrong because you did not do this already. For instance,> if a

mother asks a child "Why don't you clean up your room?" or "Why> don't you write a letter to your grandmother to thank her for your new> ice-skates?" typically this does NOT mean what it literally sounds> like - it does not mean " "Now is a good time to start doing this, so> perhaps you can get started on it" it means "You habitually avoid> doing this thing - you should already have done this thing a long,> long time ago - and you should have done it on your own initiative,> without anyone having to suggest that you should do it - so you have> made a big mistake by letting this thing go undone for so long that> now I have to actually suggest you should do it - what is wrong with> you, that you do not independently make up your mind to do these very> important and obvious things instead of waiting for a> command/suggestion/reminder from a person like me who has so much>

better sense than you seem to have?!"> > > Yours for better letters,> Kate Gladstone> Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest> handwritingrepair@...> http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair> 325 South Manning Boulevard> Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA> telephone 518/482-6763> AND REMEMBER ...> you can order books through my site!> (Amazon.com link -> I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)> Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

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Toni, I didn't mean for you to have to apologize for your opinion. When I said it's okay to be obsessive, I meant what I thought you meant which is, 'obsessive without it infringing on everyone's nerves'. I in no way am able to speak for everyone and that is why I was explaining it in a more subjective tone. When I asked her to explain something about herself and she felt like it was personal, I'd had enough. Your opinion was correct when you said e.g. "eat like/dislike", etc... etc... I was halfway responding to Kate. It just seems unnatural to me that someone who just came to the forum would start off by criticizing others' writing styles as her "way of introducing herself". tsbthatsme <kbtoni@...> wrote: -Thank you for your explanation. Sorry for my assumption. -- In , a name <drumthis2001@...>

wrote:>> Whenever I put in the word Daschund instead of Dachshund, I sort of knew that someone else probably answered the first question. So, I didn't do it wholeheartedly. After I put "daschund" as the word unscrambled, Kate latched onto it as if it were still part of the game. I spelled it in un-scrambled form so that everyone would know that I made it to where no one could unscramble the word and that Toni or, whoever actually got the C answered could start on D for everyone to unscramble. I did not want to discuss my mistake any further and felt like I was being persecuted for spelling it the wrong way. Firstly, Kate told me I spelled it the wrong way. I just wanted to end my embarassment of having answered the C word late by responding with a short post. The post simply said I won't use "german" words when giving them for others to unscramble. I think it's ok for someone to be obsessed with correct spelling but,

when it gets to criticizing me when I'm already embarassed, I call that> deliberate hassling. > > tsbthatsme <kbtoni@...> wrote: My opinion on why Nick was asking you 'personal' questions was maybe > he thought you were being a little obsessive in asking questions > about the word game and wanted to redirect you(?) of course, he can > speak for himself.Just my 2 cents...Toni> >> > Re:> > > > > It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly > personal -> > > just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you > consider> > > this personal?> > > > I don't consider artistic taste (in architecture or anything else)> > "personal" - note that I replied, in some detail, to

Nick's > question> > about my tastes in architecture.> > It seemed to me, though, that Nick asked for personal> > information specifically because I had *not* chosen to provide such> > information. It semed to me that he considered it somehow wrong of > me> > not to provide information like that. (In my experience, very often> > when someone asks "Why don't you do __________ ?", this means "You> > should already have done it, without waiting for me to ask you, and> > you are very wrong because you did not do this already. For > instance,> > if a mother asks a child "Why don't you clean up your room?" > or "Why> > don't you write a letter to your grandmother to thank her for your > new> > ice-skates?" typically this does NOT mean what it literally sounds> > like

- it does not mean " "Now is a good time to start doing this, > so> > perhaps you can get started on it" it means "You habitually avoid> > doing this thing - you should already have done this thing a long,> > long time ago - and you should have done it on your own initiative,> > without anyone having to suggest that you should do it - so you > have> > made a big mistake by letting this thing go undone for so long that> > now I have to actually suggest you should do it - what is wrong > with> > you, that you do not independently make up your mind to do these > very> > important and obvious things instead of waiting for a> > command/suggestion/reminder from a person like me who has so much> > better sense than you seem to have?!"> > > > > > Yours for better letters,> > Kate

Gladstone> > Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest> > handwritingrepair@> > http://learn.to/handwrite, > http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair> > 325 South Manning Boulevard> > Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA> > telephone 518/482-6763> > AND REMEMBER ...> > you can order books through my site!> > (Amazon.com link -> > I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)> >> > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM

sites on the Links page in the folder marked "Other FAM Sites." > > > >

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---When I said it's okay to be obsessive, I meant what I thought you

meant which is, 'obsessive without it infringing on everyone's

nerves' You are CORRECT! I didn't come right out and say that , but

yes it was hammering on my last nerve. I felt like she was just

picking on everyone about most everything but Tom said she was just

being aspie. That's why I'm here to learn as much as I can about

aspies (even though some say I have aspie traits(?) )because my boys

are aspie and were just diagnosed at 16. So I'm playing 'catch up'

in the education about aspies dept...

>

> Toni, I didn't mean for you to have to apologize for your opinion.

When I said it's okay to be obsessive, I meant what I thought you

meant which is, 'obsessive without it infringing on everyone's

nerves'. I in no way am able to speak for everyone and that is why I

was explaining it in a more subjective tone. When I asked her to

explain something about herself and she felt like it was personal,

I'd had enough. Your opinion was correct when you said e.g. " eat

like/dislike " , etc... etc... I was halfway responding to Kate. It

just seems unnatural to me that someone who just came to the forum

would start off by criticizing others' writing styles as her " way of

introducing herself " .

>

> tsbthatsme <kbtoni@...> wrote: -Thank you for your explanation.

Sorry for my assumption. -- In

> , a name <drumthis2001@> wrote:

> >

> > Whenever I put in the word Daschund instead of Dachshund, I sort

> of knew that someone else probably answered the first question.

So,

> I didn't do it wholeheartedly. After I put " daschund " as the word

> unscrambled, Kate latched onto it as if it were still part of the

> game. I spelled it in un-scrambled form so that everyone would

know

> that I made it to where no one could unscramble the word and that

> Toni or, whoever actually got the C answered could start on D for

> everyone to unscramble. I did not want to discuss my mistake any

> further and felt like I was being persecuted for spelling it the

> wrong way. Firstly, Kate told me I spelled it the wrong way. I

just

> wanted to end my embarassment of having answered the C word late

by

> responding with a short post. The post simply said I won't

> use " german " words when giving them for others to unscramble. I

> think it's ok for someone to be obsessed with correct spelling

but,

> when it gets to criticizing me when I'm already embarassed, I call

> that

> > deliberate hassling.

> >

> > tsbthatsme <kbtoni@> wrote: My opinion on why Nick was asking

> you 'personal' questions was maybe

> > he thought you were being a little obsessive in asking questions

> > about the word game and wanted to redirect you(?) of course, he

> can

> > speak for himself.Just my 2 cents...Toni

> > >

> > > Re:

> > >

> > > > It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly

> > personal -

> > > > just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you

> > consider

> > > > this personal?

> > >

> > > I don't consider artistic taste (in architecture or anything

> else)

> > > " personal " - note that I replied, in some detail, to Nick's

> > question

> > > about my tastes in architecture.

> > > It seemed to me, though, that Nick asked for personal

> > > information specifically because I had *not* chosen to provide

> such

> > > information. It semed to me that he considered it somehow

wrong

> of

> > me

> > > not to provide information like that. (In my experience, very

> often

> > > when someone asks " Why don't you do __________ ? " , this

> means " You

> > > should already have done it, without waiting for me to ask

you,

> and

> > > you are very wrong because you did not do this already. For

> > instance,

> > > if a mother asks a child " Why don't you clean up your room? "

> > or " Why

> > > don't you write a letter to your grandmother to thank her for

> your

> > new

> > > ice-skates? " typically this does NOT mean what it literally

> sounds

> > > like - it does not mean " " Now is a good time to start doing

> this,

> > so

> > > perhaps you can get started on it " it means " You habitually

avoid

> > > doing this thing - you should already have done this thing a

> long,

> > > long time ago - and you should have done it on your own

> initiative,

> > > without anyone having to suggest that you should do it - so

you

> > have

> > > made a big mistake by letting this thing go undone for so long

> that

> > > now I have to actually suggest you should do it - what is

wrong

> > with

> > > you, that you do not independently make up your mind to do

these

> > very

> > > important and obvious things instead of waiting for a

> > > command/suggestion/reminder from a person like me who has so

much

> > > better sense than you seem to have?! "

> > >

> > >

> > > Yours for better letters,

> > > Kate Gladstone

> > > Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

> > > handwritingrepair@

> > > http://learn.to/handwrite,

> > http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

> > > 325 South Manning Boulevard

> > > Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

> > > telephone 518/482-6763

> > > AND REMEMBER ...

> > > you can order books through my site!

> > > (Amazon.com link -

> > > I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

> support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

> >

> > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links

page

> in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Re:

Re:

> It

> just seems unnatural to me that someone who just came to the forum

> would start off by criticizing others' writing styles as her " way of

> introducing herself " .

Did I really " start off " like that? What did my first post say?

By the way, I've never known quite the best way to respond to

seeing either myself or my statements called " unnatural. "

<;-S

Yours for better letters,

Kate Gladstone

Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

handwritingrepair@...

http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

325 South Manning Boulevard

Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

telephone 518/482-6763

AND REMEMBER ...

you can order books through my site!

(Amazon.com link -

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Re:

> When I asked her to

> explain something about herself and she felt like it was personal,

> I'd had enough.

Like most people, I consider some things " personal " and other things

" not personal. "

The only time that someone here has asked me to explain something

about myself - specifically, my tastes in architecture - I immediately

did so.

For some other things, I've referred folks to my " about Kate

Gladstone " web-page if they take an interest.

For any of the many things the web-page doesn't talk about, ask: if I

don't find it too personal, and if you *ask* rather than demanding,

I'll probably reply.

Note that " too personal " can include " too hard to talk/write to

most people about. " I really doubt that everyone or anyone here would

really want to hear about some of the things which had the biggest

impacts on my life. I didn't have a pretty childhood.)

Yours for better letters,

Kate Gladstone

Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

handwritingrepair@...

http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

325 South Manning Boulevard

Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

telephone 518/482-6763

AND REMEMBER ...

you can order books through my site!

(Amazon.com link -

I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

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Nick:

>> It just seems unnatural to me that someone who just came to the forum

>> would start off by criticizing others' writing styles as her " way of

>> introducing herself " .

>

Kate:

> Did I really " start off " like that? What did my first post say?

I don't think Nick meant literally your _very first post_ but more your

general behavior so soon after just joining this forum.

Kate:

> By the way, I've never known quite the best way to respond to seeing

> either myself or my statements called " unnatural. "

It is unusual anyway, I think that's what he meant. Though it is common

among Aspies to have a very strong interest in language & words, to have an

extra strong sense of accuracy and a compulsion to correct (which one has to

constantly struggle to keep in check so as to not insult anyone), and/or to

really have trouble with things that are not stated in crystal clear lingo,

I've not seen many who do it with such fervour & tenacity, and so soon upon

joining a new group.

So you're a bit unique even among us other nitpicking oddballs. ;-)

Inger

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I apologize for making it sound like I was saying you are unnatural. That's not the way I meant to come across. I just meant unnatural in the sense that your interest in linguistics may get a better response in a forum where the only thing they talk about is analysis of language.Kate Gladstone <handwritingrepair@...> wrote: Re:Re:> It> just seems unnatural to me that someone who just came to the forum> would start off by criticizing others' writing styles as her "way of> introducing herself".Did I really "start off" like that? What did my first post say?By the way, I've never known quite the best way to respond toseeing either myself or my statements called "unnatural."<;-S Yours for better letters, Kate Gladstone Handwriting Repair

and the World Handwriting Contest handwritingrepair@... http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair 325 South Manning Boulevard Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA telephone 518/482-6763 AND REMEMBER ... you can order books through my site! (Amazon.com link - I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

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Have you read about the personality colors? The colors represent different types of people and does a decent job of explaining peoples' behaviors, attitudes, conceptions etc... I didn't intend for you to hurt yourself emotionally by attempting to remember negative, life changing experiences. Kate Gladstone <handwritingrepair@...> wrote: Re:> When I asked her to> explain something about herself and she felt like it was personal,> I'd had enough.Like most people, I consider some things "personal" and other things"not personal."The only time that someone here has asked me to explain somethingabout myself - specifically, my tastes in architecture - I immediatelydid so. For some other things, I've referred folks to my "about KateGladstone" web-page if

they take an interest.For any of the many things the web-page doesn't talk about, ask: if Idon't find it too personal, and if you *ask* rather than demanding,I'll probably reply. Note that "too personal" can include "too hard to talk/write tomost people about." I really doubt that everyone or anyone here wouldreally want to hear about some of the things which had the biggestimpacts on my life. I didn't have a pretty childhood.) Yours for better letters, Kate Gladstone Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest handwritingrepair@... http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair 325 South Manning Boulevard Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA telephone 518/482-6763 AND

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Nick - you ask:

> Have you read about the personality colors? The colors represent different

>types of people and does a decent job of explaining peoples' behaviors,

>attitudes, conceptions etc...

No - I didn't know about this, but the idea interests me. Please tell me more.

Yours for better letters,

Kate Gladstone

Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

handwritingrepair@...

http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

325 South Manning Boulevard

Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

telephone 518/482-6763

AND REMEMBER ...

you can order books through my site!

(Amazon.com link -

I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

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http://www.thecolorcode.com/ Here's the 45 question test which is meant to give an idea of your personality type.Kate Gladstone <handwritingrepair@...> wrote: Nick - you ask:> Have you read about the personality colors? The colors represent different >types of people and does a decent job of explaining peoples' behaviors, >attitudes, conceptions etc...No - I didn't know about this, but the idea interests me. Please tell me more. Yours for better letters, Kate Gladstone Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest handwritingrepair@... http://learn.to/handwrite, http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair 325 South Manning Boulevard Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA telephone 518/482-6763 AND REMEMBER ... you can order books through my site! (Amazon.com link - I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

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I always have such trouble with tests when so few or none of the options apply to me. I really dislike having to choose the closest approximation instead of giving an accurate reply. (That, I'm very sure is an Aspie thing.) - How I treated a friend? I didn't have any friends that were that close. - Doing chores? I was never asked to do any chores. We don't believe in forced child labor in Sweden. At least my parents didn't. - How I acted in an argument with my parents? I never had any arguments with my parents.

- When I failed as a child? I can't recall failing. I sucked at math and gym but that was nothing I saw as "failure". We don't think in such terms here. At least I didn't.

Why are so many of the choices negative ones only? Or only positive. As a child I was neither followed, admired, protected or envied. I was either ignored or bullied. (Possibly a bit protected on rare occasions, but usually not.)

Well, the result seem to be SOMEWHAT accurate anyway. Out of red, blue, yellow and white, I came out white. "WHITES are motivated by PEACE."

Yes.

"They seek independence and require kindness."

Yes.

"They resist confrontation at all costs."

Used to, not anymore.

"To them, feeling good is more important than being good."

Nope. I cannot feel good if I've done something I shouldn't, or negelcted doing something I should have."

"They are typically quiet by nature, process things very deeply and objectively with great clarity."

Seems fairly accurate.

"Of all the colors, WHITES are the best listeners.

Not so sure about that.

"They respect people who are direct but recoil from perceived hostility or verbal battle."

Yes. Though not when I have PMS, or feel a responsibility to engage. :-) "WHITES need their "alone time" and refuse to be controlled by others.WHITES want to do things their own way and in their own time.

"They ask little of others and resent others demanding much of them.

"WHITES are much stronger than people think, but are not often seen for their strength because they don't easily reveal their feelings.

"WHITES are even-tempered, diplomatic, and the voice of reason; but can also be indecisive, unexpressive, and silently stubborn. When others interact with you, as a WHITE you respond to them best if they are kind, accepting and supporting of your individuality, and if they look for non-verbal clues to understand your feelings."Hmm.. I'm impressed. Despite the americanized non-aspie questions.

Inger

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The book goes into greater detail about the colors and everyone has a degree of other colors in them. The test is only the beginning. The only reason I know about this one is because my mother had the book and I read it after she was finished. Sweden sounds like an interesting place. I saw part of the PETA video and signed the petition. Cats & dogs are too pure to be skinned alive. I still have trouble getting over the fact that there are people who still wear fur coats and think it's classy after all the information about the abuse of Dogs has been shared with the American public. Inger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote: I always have such trouble with tests when so few or none of the options apply to me. I really dislike having to choose the closest

approximation instead of giving an accurate reply. (That, I'm very sure is an Aspie thing.) - How I treated a friend? I didn't have any friends that were that close. - Doing chores? I was never asked to do any chores. We don't believe in forced child labor in Sweden. At least my parents didn't. - How I acted in an argument with my parents? I never had any arguments with my parents. - When I failed as a child? I can't recall failing. I sucked at math and gym but that was nothing I saw as "failure". We don't think in such terms here. At least I didn't. Why are so many of the choices negative ones only? Or only positive. As a child I was neither followed, admired, protected or envied. I was either ignored or bullied. (Possibly a bit protected on rare occasions, but usually not.) Well, the result seem to be SOMEWHAT accurate anyway. Out of red,

blue, yellow and white, I came out white. "WHITES are motivated by PEACE." Yes. "They seek independence and require kindness." Yes. "They resist confrontation at all costs." Used to, not anymore. "To them, feeling good is more important than being good." Nope. I cannot feel good if I've done something I shouldn't, or negelcted doing something I should have." "They are typically quiet by nature, process things very deeply and objectively with great clarity." Seems fairly accurate. "Of all the colors, WHITES are the best listeners. Not so sure about that. "They respect people who are direct but recoil from perceived hostility or verbal battle." Yes. Though not when I have PMS, or feel a responsibility to engage. :-) "WHITES need their "alone time" and refuse to be controlled by others.WHITES want to do things their own way and in their own

time. "They ask little of others and resent others demanding much of them. "WHITES are much stronger than people think, but are not often seen for their strength because they don't easily reveal their feelings. "WHITES are even-tempered, diplomatic, and the voice of reason; but can also be indecisive, unexpressive, and silently stubborn. When others interact with you, as a WHITE you respond to them best if they are kind, accepting and supporting of your individuality, and if they look for non-verbal clues to understand your feelings."Hmm.. I'm impressed. Despite the americanized non-aspie questions. Inger

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Just look at her like a teacher--they point things out bluntly. She's

into words and writing so she's keen to find mistakes. Some cultures

are more blunt, as well. Don't want to speak for Kate but that's how

it seems to me (could be wrong.)

> >

> > Re:

> >

> > > It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly

> personal -

> > > just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you

> consider

> > > this personal?

> >

> > I don't consider artistic taste (in architecture or anything else)

> > " personal " - note that I replied, in some detail, to Nick's

> question

> > about my tastes in architecture.

> > It seemed to me, though, that Nick asked for personal

> > information specifically because I had *not* chosen to provide

such

> > information. It semed to me that he considered it somehow wrong

of

> me

> > not to provide information like that. (In my experience, very

often

> > when someone asks " Why don't you do __________ ? " , this means " You

> > should already have done it, without waiting for me to ask you,

and

> > you are very wrong because you did not do this already. For

> instance,

> > if a mother asks a child " Why don't you clean up your room? "

> or " Why

> > don't you write a letter to your grandmother to thank her for

your

> new

> > ice-skates? " typically this does NOT mean what it literally sounds

> > like - it does not mean " " Now is a good time to start doing

this,

> so

> > perhaps you can get started on it " it means " You habitually avoid

> > doing this thing - you should already have done this thing a long,

> > long time ago - and you should have done it on your own

initiative,

> > without anyone having to suggest that you should do it - so you

> have

> > made a big mistake by letting this thing go undone for so long

that

> > now I have to actually suggest you should do it - what is wrong

> with

> > you, that you do not independently make up your mind to do these

> very

> > important and obvious things instead of waiting for a

> > command/suggestion/reminder from a person like me who has so much

> > better sense than you seem to have?! "

> >

> >

> > Yours for better letters,

> > Kate Gladstone

> > Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

> > handwritingrepair@

> > http://learn.to/handwrite,

> http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

> > 325 South Manning Boulevard

> > Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

> > telephone 518/482-6763

> > AND REMEMBER ...

> > you can order books through my site!

> > (Amazon.com link -

> > I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

> Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I was young I walked around correcting everyone and everything.

I thought I was being helpful. It was finally when a girl from France

screamed and yelled at me and never talked to me again because I was

always correcting her English (I thought I was really helping her by

doing that) that I was shocked into stopping it.

> > > >

> > > > Re:

> > > >

> > > > > It appeared to me that Nick was not asking anything overly

> > > personal -

> > > > > just your likes dislikes concerning architecture. Maybe you

> > > consider

> > > > > this personal?

> > > >

> > > > I don't consider artistic taste (in architecture or anything

> > else)

> > > > " personal " - note that I replied, in some detail, to Nick's

> > > question

> > > > about my tastes in architecture.

> > > > It seemed to me, though, that Nick asked for personal

> > > > information specifically because I had *not* chosen to

provide

> > such

> > > > information. It semed to me that he considered it somehow

> wrong

> > of

> > > me

> > > > not to provide information like that. (In my experience, very

> > often

> > > > when someone asks " Why don't you do __________ ? " , this

> > means " You

> > > > should already have done it, without waiting for me to ask

> you,

> > and

> > > > you are very wrong because you did not do this already. For

> > > instance,

> > > > if a mother asks a child " Why don't you clean up your room? "

> > > or " Why

> > > > don't you write a letter to your grandmother to thank her for

> > your

> > > new

> > > > ice-skates? " typically this does NOT mean what it literally

> > sounds

> > > > like - it does not mean " " Now is a good time to start doing

> > this,

> > > so

> > > > perhaps you can get started on it " it means " You habitually

> avoid

> > > > doing this thing - you should already have done this thing a

> > long,

> > > > long time ago - and you should have done it on your own

> > initiative,

> > > > without anyone having to suggest that you should do it - so

> you

> > > have

> > > > made a big mistake by letting this thing go undone for so

long

> > that

> > > > now I have to actually suggest you should do it - what is

> wrong

> > > with

> > > > you, that you do not independently make up your mind to do

> these

> > > very

> > > > important and obvious things instead of waiting for a

> > > > command/suggestion/reminder from a person like me who has so

> much

> > > > better sense than you seem to have?! "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yours for better letters,

> > > > Kate Gladstone

> > > > Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

> > > > handwritingrepair@

> > > > http://learn.to/handwrite,

> > > http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

> > > > 325 South Manning Boulevard

> > > > Albany, New York 12208-1731 USA

> > > > telephone 518/482-6763

> > > > AND REMEMBER ...

> > > > you can order books through my site!

> > > > (Amazon.com link -

> > > > I get a 5% - 15% commission on each book sold)

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

> > support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

> > >

> > > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links

> page

> > in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I am blue.

> Nick - you ask:

>

>

> > Have you read about the personality colors? The colors

represent different >types of people and does a decent job of

explaining peoples' behaviors, >attitudes, conceptions etc...

>

> No - I didn't know about this, but the idea interests me. Please

tell me more.

>

>

> Yours for better letters,

> Kate Gladstone

> Handwriting Repair and the World Handwriting Contest

> handwritingrepair@...

> http://learn.to/handwrite,

http://www.global2000.net/handwritingrepair

> 325 South Manning Boulevard

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> telephone 518/482-6763

> AND REMEMBER ...

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support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

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[Guest guest]

I'm feeling blue - but not done test to see if I am yet. I got put off

by having to fill something in before I could take test - think it

wanted my email, so I was a bit wary - might go back and look at it

later.

Is there a black? :-)

>

> I am blue.

>

[Guest guest]

Guess what, turns out I am blue :-) so that's 3 blues I know of on here.

>

> I'm feeling blue - but not done test to see if I am yet. I got put

off

> by having to fill something in before I could take test - think it

> wanted my email, so I was a bit wary - might go back and look at it

> later.

>

> Is there a black? :-)

>

>

>