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I am right where you are now, and my (possible) beginning to treatment could be closer than either of us know.. I think we all (that don't know) badly need an answer to this question.. To build now, or to wait to re-build, that is the big question.. I will also ask both doctors, one on Thursday, the GI on Monday.. Sheena marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: Thanks, Tim! But

now Sheena has me thinking, I am supposed to anything either way with my immune system if I am going on tx? My thought was that the stronger it is, the better, but now that may not be so. If the meds have to fight with my strong immune system, will that make it harder for the meds to clear the virus? Accckkkk and double Accckkkk! Apologies in advance if this subject has been previously beat to death, > but I have a question about strengthening my immune system, > specifically to 1) fight the virus and slow it down, and 2) get ready > for tx and stave off any other

viruses/diseases while my defenses are > down.> > Any ideas from the gurus? ...> > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > www.knoxville1.com> > > ---------------------------------> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.>

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well wait a min you guys,,, the Interferon is an immune booster and the Riba is the antiviral,, so anything that will help your immune system kill this virus is a good thing.. boosting your immune system will not cause your tx to be less effective.marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: Thanks, Tim! But now Sheena has me thinking, I am supposed to anything either way with my immune system if I am going on tx? My thought was that the stronger it is, the better, but now that may not be so. If the meds

have to fight with my strong immune system, will that make it harder for the meds to clear the virus? Accckkkk and double Accckkkk! Apologies in advance if this subject has been previously beat to death, > but I have a question about strengthening my immune system, > specifically to 1) fight the virus and slow it down, and 2) get ready > for tx and stave off any other viruses/diseases while my defenses are > down.> > Any ideas from the gurus? ...> > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > knoxville,tn 37931

> > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > www.knoxville1.com> > > ---------------------------------> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.>Jackie

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VERY GOOD hon,, this IS the way you should eat on tx or off tx,, its very healthy! its gonna pay of in dividends bigtime,, God Bless!marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: Can't wait to hear what the 2 docs say! I bet dollars to donuts they don't agree! Hee hee. Ok, for the entertainment or edification of all, here is what I am putting into my body now, each day:Morning:Milk thistle (MMT brand) 240 mg Selenium 200mgVitamin E 400iuALA (alpha lipoic acid)

300 mgN-A-C 500 mgVitamin C 1000 mgOatmeal or fruit salad5 shot espresso over ice :)32 oz water with 2 lemonsAfternoon16 oz or so of waterLarge salad with tofu and/or chicken or tuna OR tuna sandwich or veggie sandwich with cheese but NEVER processed meatsLate afternoonMore water with lemons ANDGreen tea or liver detox tea (has shissandra, licorice, etc), or 2 oz wheatgrass juice, freshly squeezedBananaDinnerChicken or salmon with rice and veggies, OR sauted tofu with broccoli carrots, other veggies and brown rice, OR sometimes steak.If I don't feel like eating dinner I have an HerbaLife Protein shake, with added protein powder. I mix in about 2 tablespons of soy lethicin. If I have some kashi cereal for dinner, I also mix in some soy lethicin.Lots of waterSome sort of juice, either Odwalla Superfood or PomagranateMilk Thistle 480 mgALA 300 mgNAC

500 mgZoloft 25 mg(I was taking SAMe too, but now I am on Zoloft to deal with possible depression from tx, and you can't mix them.)(I also can't resist Albertson's chewy chocolate chips, and if they are in the house I will not be able to control myself so my fiance must eat them in the car.)I was thinking about adding the coq 10 to this mix for my immune system. I ran all of these things past my doctor, and he didn't tell me to stop, he said it "sounded fine". I was happy with that response that because sometimes dr.s can be anti-vitamin.I's like to say that "I feel better than I ever have in my life!", but that would be b.s. This diet and regimen (forgot, I also take a walk every night for about a half hour)is keeping me going, and when I deviate, such as by not drinking all of this water, I can feel it right away. I have steatosis too, which I now know (thanks, Liz) can hinder treatment, so I

have to watch my diet very carefully. I am 5'2 and 160 lbs so I can stand to lose some weight. So far, I have lost about 7 lbs since I started this "diet". My main goals are to fight fatique and have enough energy to make it through my busy day, and of course help my liver heal.Any suggestions and comments from the "panel" as to this plan are highly welcomed and appreciated!Sheena, we will figure this thing out, then we will wrestle it to the ground. I am a scrappy NY street kid and I know how to fight! Apologies > in advance if this subject has been previously beat to death, > > but I have a question about strengthening my immune system, > > specifically to 1) fight the virus and slow it down, and 2) get > ready > > for tx and stave off any other viruses/diseases while my defenses > are > > down.> > > > Any ideas from the gurus? ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > ---------------------------------> > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > call rates.> >> > > > >

> > ---------------------------------> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.>Jackie

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Wow, well if this doesn't kill it, I don't know what will! I am printing.. I am still more than confused, think I've been reading TOO MUCH, and I have to agree with you that the Holistic Doc and the Conventional Doc will not agree, but I will hear them both out.. Getting a bit nervous now, it's been a long wait and that's almost over, decisions will have to be made.. Once I go with the fight, it will be all or nothing.. Sheena marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: Can't wait to hear what the 2 docs say! I bet dollars to donuts they don't agree! Hee hee. Ok, for the entertainment or edification of all, here is what I am putting into my body now, each day:Morning:Milk thistle (MMT brand) 240 mg Selenium 200mgVitamin E 400iuALA (alpha lipoic acid) 300 mgN-A-C 500 mgVitamin C 1000 mgOatmeal or fruit salad5 shot espresso over ice :)32 oz water with 2 lemonsAfternoon16 oz or so of waterLarge salad with tofu and/or chicken or tuna OR tuna sandwich or veggie sandwich with cheese but NEVER processed meatsLate afternoonMore water with lemons ANDGreen tea or liver detox tea (has shissandra, licorice, etc), or 2 oz wheatgrass juice, freshly squeezedBananaDinnerChicken or salmon with rice and

veggies, OR sauted tofu with broccoli carrots, other veggies and brown rice, OR sometimes steak.If I don't feel like eating dinner I have an HerbaLife Protein shake, with added protein powder. I mix in about 2 tablespons of soy lethicin. If I have some kashi cereal for dinner, I also mix in some soy lethicin.Lots of waterSome sort of juice, either Odwalla Superfood or PomagranateMilk Thistle 480 mgALA 300 mgNAC 500 mgZoloft 25 mg(I was taking SAMe too, but now I am on Zoloft to deal with possible depression from tx, and you can't mix them.)(I also can't resist Albertson's chewy chocolate chips, and if they are in the house I will not be able to control myself so my fiance must eat them in the car.)I was thinking about adding the coq 10 to this mix for my immune system. I ran all of these things past my doctor, and he didn't tell me to stop, he said it "sounded fine". I was happy with

that response that because sometimes dr.s can be anti-vitamin.I's like to say that "I feel better than I ever have in my life!", but that would be b.s. This diet and regimen (forgot, I also take a walk every night for about a half hour)is keeping me going, and when I deviate, such as by not drinking all of this water, I can feel it right away. I have steatosis too, which I now know (thanks, Liz) can hinder treatment, so I have to watch my diet very carefully. I am 5'2 and 160 lbs so I can stand to lose some weight. So far, I have lost about 7 lbs since I started this "diet". My main goals are to fight fatique and have enough energy to make it through my busy day, and of course help my liver heal.Any suggestions and comments from the "panel" as to this plan are highly welcomed and appreciated!Sheena, we will figure this thing out, then we will wrestle it to the ground. I am a scrappy NY street kid and I

know how to fight! Apologies > in advance if this subject has been previously beat to death, > > but I have a question about strengthening my immune system, > > specifically to 1) fight the virus and slow it down, and 2) get > ready > > for tx and stave off any other viruses/diseases while my defenses > are > > down.> > > > Any ideas from the gurus? ...> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > Tim Parsons > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > ---------------------------------> > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > call rates.> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.>

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, I have heard that too,, about the liver being the seat of anger and rage,, but you did NOTHING in the way of being angry that caused you to get this virus,, it takes blood to blood contact to get it,, not anger sweetie,, you will find that the acupuncture will help relieve stress,, we DO have a licensed Acupuncturist here on this forum, Im sure she will show up sooner or later and tell you more about it if you are interested!marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: All the answers

will come I am sure, along with more questions. Likeyou, I have been reading too much. Tomorrow I am going for acupunctureat Pacific Holistic -it's in Irvine. I need to do something to relievestress, and a nice guy at the support group said it did wonders forhis wife, who also holds all of her stress in her back and shoulders.Also, I am not too much into New Age philosophy, but my ex is, and hesays that the liver is the center of "anger and rage". I take that tomean that being angry and cranky and stressed doesn't help the liver.If anyone else knows any more about this, let me know if I aminterpreting it wrong. It's sort of interesting...amde me wonder..."ifI have this liver disease, what the heck was I so mad about to getit!". susan Apologies > > in advance if this subject has been previously beat to death, > > > but I have a question about strengthening my immune system, > > > specifically to 1) fight the virus and slow it down, and 2) get > > ready > > > for tx and stave off any other viruses/diseases while my defenses > > are > > > down.>

> > > > > Any ideas from the gurus? ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > > call rates.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > call rates.> >> > > > > > >

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Sheena sweetie, DONT LET ANYONE force you to make a decision UNTIL YOU ARE READY,, MD or ND,, ITS YOUR BODY and its YOUR CHOICE,, dont let anyone push you,, You wanna be sure what you decide is really YOUR choice and not someone else's...Sheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Wow, well if this doesn't kill it, I don't know what will! I am printing.. I am still more than confused, think I've been reading TOO MUCH, and I have to agree with you that the Holistic Doc and the

Conventional Doc will not agree, but I will hear them both out.. Getting a bit nervous now, it's been a long wait and that's almost over, decisions will have to be made.. Once I go with the fight, it will be all or nothing.. Sheena marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05 > wrote: Can't wait to hear what the 2 docs say! I bet dollars to donuts they don't agree! Hee hee. Ok, for the entertainment or edification of all, here is what I am putting into my body now, each day:Morning:Milk thistle (MMT brand) 240 mg Selenium 200mgVitamin E 400iuALA (alpha lipoic acid) 300 mgN-A-C 500 mgVitamin C 1000 mgOatmeal or fruit salad5 shot espresso over ice

:)32 oz water with 2 lemonsAfternoon16 oz or so of waterLarge salad with tofu and/or chicken or tuna OR tuna sandwich or veggie sandwich with cheese but NEVER processed meatsLate afternoonMore water with lemons ANDGreen tea or liver detox tea (has shissandra, licorice, etc), or 2 oz wheatgrass juice, freshly squeezedBananaDinnerChicken or salmon with rice and veggies, OR sauted tofu with broccoli carrots, other veggies and brown rice, OR sometimes steak.If I don't feel like eating dinner I have an HerbaLife Protein shake, with added protein powder. I mix in about 2 tablespons of soy lethicin. If I have some kashi cereal for dinner, I also mix in some soy lethicin.Lots of waterSome sort of juice, either Odwalla Superfood or PomagranateMilk Thistle 480 mgALA 300 mgNAC 500 mgZoloft 25 mg(I was taking SAMe too, but now I am on Zoloft to deal with possible

depression from tx, and you can't mix them.)(I also can't resist Albertson's chewy chocolate chips, and if they are in the house I will not be able to control myself so my fiance must eat them in the car.)I was thinking about adding the coq 10 to this mix for my immune system. I ran all of these things past my doctor, and he didn't tell me to stop, he said it "sounded fine". I was happy with that response that because sometimes dr.s can be anti-vitamin.I's like to say that "I feel better than I ever have in my life!", but that would be b.s. This diet and regimen (forgot, I also take a walk every night for about a half hour)is keeping me going, and when I deviate, such as by not drinking all of this water, I can feel it right away. I have steatosis too, which I now know (thanks, Liz) can hinder treatment, so I have to watch my diet very carefully. I am 5'2 and 160 lbs so I can stand to lose some weight.

So far, I have lost about 7 lbs since I started this "diet". My main goals are to fight fatique and have enough energy to make it through my busy day, and of course help my liver heal.Any suggestions and comments from the "panel" as to this plan are highly welcomed and appreciated!Sheena, we will figure this thing out, then we will wrestle it to the ground. I am a scrappy NY street kid and I know how to fight! Apologies > in advance if this subject has been

previously beat to death, > > but I have a question about strengthening my immune system, > > specifically to 1) fight the virus and slow it down, and 2) get > ready > > for tx and stave off any other viruses/diseases while my defenses > are > > down.> > > > Any ideas from the gurus? ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > ---------------------------------> > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > call rates.> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> How low will we go? Check

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lol i never got angry i was just thankful it wasn't aids i was scared at 1st because it has been group't with aids tb,and stds.diabetes is more dangerous then hcv and most ignore it and make no life style changes,hcv is scary but not the end,it a signal to take better care of your body like its alarm,without it sounding some of us not all may have had a much shorter life.i think ive added 10 to 15 years to mine, the people here are all warriors and fight the dragon head on we all feed off others knowledge trails errors and reasearch,just like any army we have different branches we have the tx troops that fight with the most modern meds and technolgy,the troops that fight alternative,so attacking it in diff ways will speed up the battle and when its all said and done the people like liz jax and others where the ones on the front line but will never get the credit they deserve,but like us you are a fighter so eather way you cant lose.sucks to be drafted

huh!!!!!marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: Thanks Jax! But I sure was angry when I found out I had it! :)Not so much anymore now that I understand what the heck is going on-maybe..?? Apologies > > > in advance if this subject has been previously beat to death, > > > > but I have a question about strengthening my immune system, > > > > specifically to 1) fight the virus and slow it down, and 2) get > > > ready > > > > for tx and stave off any other viruses/diseases

while my defenses > > > are > > > > down.> > > > > > > > Any ideas from the gurus? ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > > > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > > > call rates.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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me too,, REALLY REALLY angry and scared spitless!!! I was on duty on the ambulance when my hubby told me and then I called my doc back,, it is a day I will NEVER forget! I wish I could but honestly, maybe this has been a blessing in many ways,, I have learned to reorganize my life and put whats really important in the front of my life and toss the inconsequential things to the curb!marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05@...> wrote: Thanks Jax! But I sure was angry when I found out I had it! :)Not so much anymore now

that I understand what the heck is going on-maybe..?? Apologies > > > in advance if this subject has been previously beat to death, > > > > but I have a question about strengthening my immune system, > > > > specifically to 1) fight the virus and slow it down, and 2) get > > > ready > > > > for tx and stave off any other viruses/diseases while my defenses > > > are > > > > down.> > > > > > > > Any ideas from the gurus? ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > > > > > > > www.knoxville1.com> > > >

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Tim, you sure do have a way with words! Sheena Hillbilly Tim <knoxweb1@...> wrote: lol i never got angry i was just thankful it wasn't aids i was scared at 1st because it has been group't with aids tb,and stds.diabetes is more dangerous then hcv and most ignore it and make no life style changes,hcv is scary but not the end,it a signal to take

better care of your body like its alarm,without it sounding some of us not all may have had a much shorter life.i think ive added 10 to 15 years to mine, the people here are all warriors and fight the dragon head on we all feed off others knowledge trails errors and reasearch,just like any army we have different branches we have the tx troops that fight with the most modern meds and technolgy,the troops that fight alternative,so attacking it in diff ways will speed up the battle and when its all said and done the people like liz jax and others where the ones on the front line but will never get the credit they deserve,but like us you are a fighter so eather way you cant lose.sucks to be drafted huh!!!!!marvindamartian05 <marvindamartian05 > wrote: Thanks Jax! But I sure was angry when I found out I had it!

:)Not so much anymore now that I understand what the heck is going on-maybe..?? Apologies > > > in advance if this subject has been previously beat to death, > > > > but I have a question about strengthening my immune system, > > > > specifically to 1) fight the virus and slow it down, and 2) get > > > ready > > > > for tx and stave off any other viruses/diseases while my defenses > > > are > > > > down.> > > > > > > > Any ideas from the gurus? ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Parsons > > > > > > > > knoxville,tn 37931 > > > > > > > > 865-588-2465 x107 work> > > > > > > > > > > >

www.knoxville1.com> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > > > call rates.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > > call rates.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.> >> > > > > > > Jackie> Tim

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