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> > tsbthatsme: " - I proudly served 6 years in the AFRES "

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It's " Safer " as typed by someone with dyslexia on a bad day :P

(dyslexia is nuf!)

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> what is AFRES?

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Or " fears " to a paranoid dyslexic.

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:-)

Is it something like weapons-free duty?

We have that in Sweden too. If I was called to service - and not as

physically disabled as I am now - I would choose that option.

Inger

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It's " Safer " as typed by someone with dyslexia on a bad day :P

(dyslexia is nuf!)

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> > tsbthatsme: " - I proudly served 6 years in the AFRES "

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> Great!

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> what is AFRES?

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> Rainbow

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acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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Oh, I saw that now. (Mails get sorted in threads in my inbox but sometimes messages end up where I miss them.)

Cool that you met your husband there. You believe it was destiny or luck?

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> Toni: "Air Force Reserves"

Thank you.

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> Inger: "Is it something like weapons-free duty?"Are you talking to me?Is being a Conscientious Objector to War like weapons-free duty?Yes!The legal requirement was to 'serve' our country for two years, benefiting the health/safety of it's citizens.I could never kill anyone!!! (and, believe me, I've been shot at!)  Rainbow

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I was asking Toni, but I was glad to hear of your choice too.

Though everyone keeps saying that anyone will kill under certain circumstances, I truly don't think that I could. Since I am not afraid of dying, I think I would prefer to die myself before taking the life of another. I can only hope that I'll never be in a situation where I have to make that decision.

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> Inger: "Is it something like weapons-free duty?"

Are you talking to me?

Is being a Conscientious Objector to War like weapons-free duty?

Yes!

The legal requirement was to 'serve' our country for two years, benefiting the health/safety of it's citizens.

I could never kill anyone!!! (and, believe me, I've been shot at!)

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Destiny, I guess. He said that he dreamed of me when he was young,

(how's *that* for a line).---

, " Inger Lorelei " <inglori@...>

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> Oh, I saw that now. (Mails get sorted in threads in my inbox but

sometimes messages end up where I miss them.)

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> Cool that you met your husband there. You believe it was destiny

or luck?

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> Inger

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> > Toni: " Air Force Reserves "

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> Thank you.

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> Rainbow

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> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

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Wow, that's a good one! Seems it worked too! ;-)

Inger

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> > Toni: " Air Force Reserves "

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> Thank you.

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> Rainbow

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> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

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- cute...-- In , strictnon_conformist

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> It's " Safer " as typed by someone with dyslexia on a bad day :P

> (dyslexia is nuf!)

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> >

> > > tsbthatsme: " - I proudly served 6 years in the AFRES "

> >

> > Great!

> >

> > what is AFRES?

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> > Rainbow

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Mmmmmmm maybe I should rephrase; most would kill under extreme

circumstances?

I also wonder of those who are sure they would not kill - have you

ever got angry? - had any outburst of violence at any time?, when you

were a child?

>

> I was asking Toni, but I was glad to hear of your choice too.

>

> Though everyone keeps saying that anyone will kill under certain

circumstances, I truly don't think that I could. Since I am not

afraid of dying, I think I would prefer to die myself before taking

the life of another. I can only hope that I'll never be in a

situation where I have to make that decision.

>

> Inger

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Rainbow, that is too funny... I'm glad you did serve your fellow man in

another way.(besides enlisting)

Rainbow . wrote:

> > Inger: " Is it something like weapons-free duty? "

>

> Are you talking to me?

>

> Is being a Conscientious Objector to War like weapons-free duty?

>

> Yes!

>

> The legal requirement was to 'serve' our country for two years,

> benefiting the health/safety of it's citizens.

>

> I could never kill anyone!!! (and, believe me, I've been shot at!)

>

> Rainbow

>

>

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

> support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in

> the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

>

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> Mmmmmmm maybe I should rephrase; most would kill under extreme

circumstances?

Fine, since " most " is not = ALL.

> I also wonder of those who are sure they would not kill

I said I didn't THINK I would be able to.

> - have you ever got angry? - had any outburst of violence at any time?,

> when you were a child?

Rarely and not nearly enough to kill anyone. Only acts of violence that I

can recall, I'm sure I've mentioned before:

a) hammering on my sister a bit when she was particularly annoying and truly

asking for it (however, she was practically impervious to physical pain,

stronger than me and mostly seemed to just enjoy the attention);

B) slapping a bully in the face, and then - when I found how effective that

was :) - giving another couple of bullies similar treatment when they pushed

my limits a bit too far;

c) kicking a stranger in the chin and giving another a box on the ear when

they took the liberty of pinching my bottom;

d) giving my then bf a black eye when he was provoking me at the wrong time

and we'd both been drinking. (He gave me one back, and then we had a good

laugh about it.)

Now I can at most get a bit miffed and it usually passes within seconds.

Only exception being if my computer is giving me trouble when I have PMS.

:-)

I don't see what this has to do with killing. IF I ever was in a position

where I had to defend myself, it would be out of fear, not anger.

Inger

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> I was asking Toni, but I was glad to hear of your choice too.

>

> Though everyone keeps saying that anyone will kill under certain

circumstances, I truly don't think that I could. Since I am not

afraid of dying, I think I would prefer to die myself before taking

the life of another. I can only hope that I'll never be in a

situation where I have to make that decision.

>

> Inger

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acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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" I don't see what this has to do with killing. IF I ever was in a

position where I had to defend myself, it would be out of fear, not

anger. "

I ask becuase I think it is possible that some could go into a rage

from anger - I have witnessed this in my son - he doesn't even

recognise the damage he is doing to himself or others when he is in

this state. I think it is quite possible that some even if they are

mild mannered etc could one day just snap and go berserk - it does

happen - I am saying it is a possibity not a certainty.

Also some can and do kill out of fear.

" I said I didn't THINK I would be able to. "

My 'I also wonder of those who are sure they would not kill...' was

not aimed at you specifically or anyone else - just to anyone who are

sure that they would not kill.

I am merely questioning peoples certainty on things. I personally

cannot say with a 100% accuracy how I will re-act in any given

situation - particularly if I have not been in that situation before.

>

> :

> > Mmmmmmm maybe I should rephrase; most would kill under extreme

> circumstances?

>

> Fine, since " most " is not = ALL.

>

> > I also wonder of those who are sure they would not kill

>

> I said I didn't THINK I would be able to.

>

> > - have you ever got angry? - had any outburst of violence at any

time?,

> > when you were a child?

>

> Rarely and not nearly enough to kill anyone. Only acts of violence

that I

> can recall, I'm sure I've mentioned before:

>

> a) hammering on my sister a bit when she was particularly annoying

and truly

> asking for it (however, she was practically impervious to physical

pain,

> stronger than me and mostly seemed to just enjoy the attention);

>

> B) slapping a bully in the face, and then - when I found how

effective that

> was :) - giving another couple of bullies similar treatment when

they pushed

> my limits a bit too far;

>

> c) kicking a stranger in the chin and giving another a box on the

ear when

> they took the liberty of pinching my bottom;

>

> d) giving my then bf a black eye when he was provoking me at the

wrong time

> and we'd both been drinking. (He gave me one back, and then we had

a good

> laugh about it.)

>

> Now I can at most get a bit miffed and it usually passes within

seconds.

> Only exception being if my computer is giving me trouble when I

have PMS.

> :-)

>

> I don't see what this has to do with killing. IF I ever was in a

position

> where I had to defend myself, it would be out of fear, not anger.

>

> Inger

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Some have phlegmatic temperaments and are more unlikely to resort to

violence when provoked, whereas others have rather volatile tempers and

short fuses.

There are a numerous causes for aggression, ranging from innate temperament

to stress, hormones, brain damage in the parts of the brain that control

impulses, solvents, diet, steroids, drugs, full moon, mass hypnosis, learned

behavior etc etc etc.

I try to be careful to use absolute statements about myself, but if someone

else feels they know themselves well enough to be that sure, I see no reason

to disbelieve them or question their statement.

Can we PLEASE change the subject now?

Inger

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" I don't see what this has to do with killing. IF I ever was in a

position where I had to defend myself, it would be out of fear, not

anger. "

I ask becuase I think it is possible that some could go into a rage

from anger - I have witnessed this in my son - he doesn't even

recognise the damage he is doing to himself or others when he is in

this state. I think it is quite possible that some even if they are

mild mannered etc could one day just snap and go berserk - it does

happen - I am saying it is a possibity not a certainty.

Also some can and do kill out of fear.

" I said I didn't THINK I would be able to. "

My 'I also wonder of those who are sure they would not kill...' was

not aimed at you specifically or anyone else - just to anyone who are

sure that they would not kill.

I am merely questioning peoples certainty on things. I personally

cannot say with a 100% accuracy how I will re-act in any given

situation - particularly if I have not been in that situation before.

>

> :

> > Mmmmmmm maybe I should rephrase; most would kill under extreme

> circumstances?

>

> Fine, since " most " is not = ALL.

>

> > I also wonder of those who are sure they would not kill

>

> I said I didn't THINK I would be able to.

>

> > - have you ever got angry? - had any outburst of violence at any

time?,

> > when you were a child?

>

> Rarely and not nearly enough to kill anyone. Only acts of violence

that I

> can recall, I'm sure I've mentioned before:

>

> a) hammering on my sister a bit when she was particularly annoying

and truly

> asking for it (however, she was practically impervious to physical

pain,

> stronger than me and mostly seemed to just enjoy the attention);

>

> B) slapping a bully in the face, and then - when I found how

effective that

> was :) - giving another couple of bullies similar treatment when

they pushed

> my limits a bit too far;

>

> c) kicking a stranger in the chin and giving another a box on the

ear when

> they took the liberty of pinching my bottom;

>

> d) giving my then bf a black eye when he was provoking me at the

wrong time

> and we'd both been drinking. (He gave me one back, and then we had

a good

> laugh about it.)

>

> Now I can at most get a bit miffed and it usually passes within

seconds.

> Only exception being if my computer is giving me trouble when I

have PMS.

> :-)

>

> I don't see what this has to do with killing. IF I ever was in a

position

> where I had to defend myself, it would be out of fear, not anger.

>

> Inger

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> I ask becuase I think it is possible that some could go into a rage

> from anger - I have witnessed this in my son - he doesn't even

> recognise the damage he is doing to himself or others when he is in

> this state. I think it is quite possible that some even if they are

> mild mannered etc could one day just snap and go berserk - it does

> happen - I am saying it is a possibity not a certainty.

>

>I think people have something inside that stops them from killing--

like a line that musn't be crossed, or something so repugnant and

unnatural and wrong that it just wouldn't be done. But (these days

especially) peoples' consciences are damaged and wicked forces and

other things seem to be taking this natural wall away. I've also heard

stories about children in gangs and otherwise who have killed or been

shot and honestly didn't made the connection between shooting and

killing/dying. One boy who was shot said right before he died, " I

didn't think it would hurt. "

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