Pain perception *NOT FOR MINORS*

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(Hope it's ok to reply to this post since I was asked direct questions.)

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> So, Inger, are you saying that if someone strangles or cuts or whips you you don't experience it as pain?

I've gotten a bit more sensitive lately, but when I was younger I would experience it mainly as pleasure.

> Or not as much pain as there would normally be?

Correct. I DO feel physical pain but I just don't seem to feel it as much as others do. I can epilate hair from anywhere on my body without problem. When I work on something using my whole body, I often end up with bruises that I don't even remember how I got. As a teen, I used to make a sport of not using any local anasthesia at the dentist; just relaxing and ignoring the pain. When I get iron injections for anaemia (that take about 15 minutes to administer) the nurse usually has to wake me up when its done.

> But the body is still being hurt. If you come away with bruises, cuts, and whatever strangling might do, isn't that damaging to the body?

Only aesthetically, if you don't like having a few small scars. It hasn't caused any functional damage (like for example inhaling air-born chemicals has done).

And I actually haven't had things like cutting, burning or hard whipping done to me *that* many times, since few of my ex-partners were into such things, and those who were would usually just do something milder - unless I begged them or provoked them to do more.

> And can you be so sure that because you were born that way, it's normal?

I didn't say it was "normal" - that's something I've *never* been! :-) But for ME it is the *natural* way of being (or was until I became too sensitive in general to wish to engage in any physical activities of any kind, and too mentally independent to enjoy being dominated).

> What if the pain/pleasure center in your brain has been damaged?

That's quite possible - or at least that it is wired differently. In that regard, I do think it may be tied to being neuro-atypical. I just don't think it is exclusive to us, or present in every neuro-atypical. But the insensitivity-to-pain-aspect of it IS a documented trait in many autistics.

> How is it different than people who are born without nerve sensation and have to be watched carefully so that they don't hurt themselves? A friend of ours who is paralyzed just suffered third degree burns on his hand because he accidently had his fingers in a hot meat pastry and didn't know it because he didn't feel it.

I am not impervious to physical pain. I just experience it differently than most seem to do. I would surely feel if I burned my hand on the stove, but I just sort of register it, put some cold water on it and move on with whatever I was doing. (Unless slowly burned by someone else when in an aroused state; then I would probably experience it mainly as pleasure, not pain. Same with cutting.)

It also differs between different *types* of pain. Cold, for example, makes my bones hurt "from inside" and that's a type of pain I am exceptionally sensitive to. Disharmonious light, music, or color combinations also cause severe pain in my energy centers that is quite intolerable to me. Fragrances literally knock me off my feet and cause worse pain than any whipping could ever do.

Whipping can of course be painful too, but also produces a lot of endorphins & emotions (in me) that used to make me think it well worth it - and MAY also have been an instinctive way of seeking sensory integration or stimulation of acupuncture meridians that are out of whack on the precise spots that I used to enjoy getting whipped on.

One reason I'm not into it anymore is that it would make me too high and brain-dead the next couple of days, and I have enough problem with my brain without inviting any extra. I also feel pretty much done *experiencing* things, now I want to DO something in this world. That's feels so much more satisfying than any sensory/emotional experience I could have. But I'm still glad for those experiences I did have. Made life interesting enough to stick around until now. :-)

And there are also many, many other ways of having a D/s relationship. Not every submissive is a masochist, and not every dominant is a sadist. Many just like being mentally dominated, tied up, humiliated or whatever. Some are into role-playing, some into fetishism (with much emphasis on attire and gadgets etc). Some are into things best unmentioned and will push limits in the extreme. For others it's just one parter being the more active and decisive in the act. BDSM comes in all shades and flavors (except vanilla:) and is probably different for each individual/couple.

Now, if it is "right" or not to do it, that I leave up to each person do decide for themselves.

Inger

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I used to hit my head on things, then let others do it, was like a complex psycho-motor tic ritual I had as a coping mechenism in school.However I have cronic pain in my right hand from a "bully, arse" slamming it in a door. That I don't like, also pain in general is not something I enjoy.New Songhttp://www.aspergershosting.com/audio/Onwah.wma

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--Good post,Inger!!! Here is my slant NOT FOR THE KIDS.....i am very

senstive to pain,but i tolerate it well.i seem to make more

endorphins than most people.If i am engaging in consensual BDSM,i

orgasm from being whipped,strangled,spanked,and waxed.my partners are

careful not to leave serious bloody marks as i am very light and scar

easily.i do seem to heal more quickly than many folks,however.i do

NOT enjoy the dentist or other medical procedures but i DO get an

endorphin rush aferwards.i prefer being whipped and caned to actual

sexual intercourse. Kajira

- In , " Inger Lorelei " <inglori@...>

wrote:

>

> (Hope it's ok to reply to this post since I was asked direct

questions.)

>

> ***Those who do not wish to read more about BDSM and pain

perception can just give this one a miss.***

>

>

> :

> > So, Inger, are you saying that if someone strangles or cuts or

whips you you don't experience it as pain?

>

> I've gotten a bit more sensitive lately, but when I was younger I

would experience it mainly as pleasure.

>

> > Or not as much pain as there would normally be?

>

> Correct. I DO feel physical pain but I just don't seem to feel it

as much as others do. I can epilate hair from anywhere on my body

without problem. When I work on something using my whole body, I

often end up with bruises that I don't even remember how I got. As a

teen, I used to make a sport of not using any local anasthesia at the

dentist; just relaxing and ignoring the pain. When I get iron

injections for anaemia (that take about 15 minutes to administer) the

nurse usually has to wake me up when its done.

>

> > But the body is still being hurt. If you come away with bruises,

cuts, and whatever strangling might do, isn't that damaging to the

body?

>

> Only aesthetically, if you don't like having a few small scars. It

hasn't caused any functional damage (like for example inhaling air-

born chemicals has done).

>

> And I actually haven't had things like cutting, burning or hard

whipping done to me *that* many times, since few of my ex-partners

were into such things, and those who were would usually just do

something milder - unless I begged them or provoked them to do more.

>

> > And can you be so sure that because you were born that way, it's

normal?

>

> I didn't say it was " normal " - that's something I've *never*

been! :-) But for ME it is the *natural* way of being (or was until I

became too sensitive in general to wish to engage in any physical

activities of any kind, and too mentally independent to enjoy being

dominated).

>

> > What if the pain/pleasure center in your brain has been damaged?

>

> That's quite possible - or at least that it is wired differently.

In that regard, I do think it may be tied to being neuro-atypical. I

just don't think it is exclusive to us, or present in every neuro-

atypical. But the insensitivity-to-pain-aspect of it IS a documented

trait in many autistics.

>

> > How is it different than people who are born without nerve

sensation and have to be watched carefully so that they don't hurt

themselves? A friend of ours who is paralyzed just suffered third

degree burns on his hand because he accidently had his fingers in a

hot meat pastry and didn't know it because he didn't feel it.

>

> I am not impervious to physical pain. I just experience it

differently than most seem to do. I would surely feel if I burned my

hand on the stove, but I just sort of register it, put some cold

water on it and move on with whatever I was doing. (Unless slowly

burned by someone else when in an aroused state; then I would

probably experience it mainly as pleasure, not pain. Same with

cutting.)

>

> It also differs between different *types* of pain. Cold, for

example, makes my bones hurt " from inside " and that's a type of pain

I am exceptionally sensitive to. Disharmonious light, music, or color

combinations also cause severe pain in my energy centers that is

quite intolerable to me. Fragrances literally knock me off my feet

and cause worse pain than any whipping could ever do.

>

> Whipping can of course be painful too, but also produces a lot of

endorphins & emotions (in me) that used to make me think it well

worth it - and MAY also have been an instinctive way of seeking

sensory integration or stimulation of acupuncture meridians that are

out of whack on the precise spots that I used to enjoy getting

whipped on.

>

> One reason I'm not into it anymore is that it would make me too

high and brain-dead the next couple of days, and I have enough

problem with my brain without inviting any extra. I also feel pretty

much done *experiencing* things, now I want to DO something in this

world. That's feels so much more satisfying than any

sensory/emotional experience I could have. But I'm still glad for

those experiences I did have. Made life interesting enough to stick

around until now. :-)

>

> And there are also many, many other ways of having a D/s

relationship. Not every submissive is a masochist, and not every

dominant is a sadist. Many just like being mentally dominated, tied

up, humiliated or whatever. Some are into role-playing, some into

fetishism (with much emphasis on attire and gadgets etc). Some are

into things best unmentioned and will push limits in the extreme. For

others it's just one parter being the more active and decisive in the

act. BDSM comes in all shades and flavors (except vanilla:) and is

probably different for each individual/couple.

>

> Now, if it is " right " or not to do it, that I leave up to each

person do decide for themselves.

>

> Inger

>

[Guest guest]

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> >

> > (Hope it's ok to reply to this post since I was asked direct

> questions.)

> >

> > ***Those who do not wish to read more about BDSM and pain

> perception can just give this one a miss.***

> >

> >

> > :

> > > So, Inger, are you saying that if someone strangles or cuts or

> whips you you don't experience it as pain?

> >

> > I've gotten a bit more sensitive lately, but when I was younger I

> would experience it mainly as pleasure.

> >

> > > Or not as much pain as there would normally be?

> >

> > Correct. I DO feel physical pain but I just don't seem to feel it

> as much as others do. I can epilate hair from anywhere on my body

> without problem. When I work on something using my whole body, I

> often end up with bruises that I don't even remember how I got. As a

> teen, I used to make a sport of not using any local anasthesia at the

> dentist; just relaxing and ignoring the pain. When I get iron

> injections for anaemia (that take about 15 minutes to administer) the

> nurse usually has to wake me up when its done.

> >

> > > But the body is still being hurt. If you come away with bruises,

> cuts, and whatever strangling might do, isn't that damaging to the

> body?

> >

> > Only aesthetically, if you don't like having a few small scars. It

> hasn't caused any functional damage (like for example inhaling air-

> born chemicals has done).

> >

> > And I actually haven't had things like cutting, burning or hard

> whipping done to me *that* many times, since few of my ex-partners

> were into such things, and those who were would usually just do

> something milder - unless I begged them or provoked them to do more.

> >

> > > And can you be so sure that because you were born that way, it's

> normal?

> >

> > I didn't say it was " normal " - that's something I've *never*

> been! :-) But for ME it is the *natural* way of being (or was until I

> became too sensitive in general to wish to engage in any physical

> activities of any kind, and too mentally independent to enjoy being

> dominated).

> >

> > > What if the pain/pleasure center in your brain has been damaged?

> >

> > That's quite possible - or at least that it is wired differently.

> In that regard, I do think it may be tied to being neuro-atypical. I

> just don't think it is exclusive to us, or present in every neuro-

> atypical. But the insensitivity-to-pain-aspect of it IS a documented

> trait in many autistics.

> >

> > > How is it different than people who are born without nerve

> sensation and have to be watched carefully so that they don't hurt

> themselves? A friend of ours who is paralyzed just suffered third

> degree burns on his hand because he accidently had his fingers in a

> hot meat pastry and didn't know it because he didn't feel it.

> >

> > I am not impervious to physical pain. I just experience it

> differently than most seem to do. I would surely feel if I burned my

> hand on the stove, but I just sort of register it, put some cold

> water on it and move on with whatever I was doing. (Unless slowly

> burned by someone else when in an aroused state; then I would

> probably experience it mainly as pleasure, not pain. Same with

> cutting.)

> >

> > It also differs between different *types* of pain. Cold, for

> example, makes my bones hurt " from inside " and that's a type of pain

> I am exceptionally sensitive to. Disharmonious light, music, or color

> combinations also cause severe pain in my energy centers that is

> quite intolerable to me. Fragrances literally knock me off my feet

> and cause worse pain than any whipping could ever do.

> >

> > Whipping can of course be painful too, but also produces a lot of

> endorphins & emotions (in me) that used to make me think it well

> worth it - and MAY also have been an instinctive way of seeking

> sensory integration or stimulation of acupuncture meridians that are

> out of whack on the precise spots that I used to enjoy getting

> whipped on.

> >

> > One reason I'm not into it anymore is that it would make me too

> high and brain-dead the next couple of days, and I have enough

> problem with my brain without inviting any extra. I also feel pretty

> much done *experiencing* things, now I want to DO something in this

> world. That's feels so much more satisfying than any

> sensory/emotional experience I could have. But I'm still glad for

> those experiences I did have. Made life interesting enough to stick

> around until now. :-)

> >

> > And there are also many, many other ways of having a D/s

> relationship. Not every submissive is a masochist, and not every

> dominant is a sadist. Many just like being mentally dominated, tied

> up, humiliated or whatever. Some are into role-playing, some into

> fetishism (with much emphasis on attire and gadgets etc). Some are

> into things best unmentioned and will push limits in the extreme. For

> others it's just one parter being the more active and decisive in the

> act. BDSM comes in all shades and flavors (except vanilla:) and is

> probably different for each individual/couple.

> >

> > Now, if it is " right " or not to do it, that I leave up to each

> person do decide for themselves.

> >

> > Inger

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, if you don't like reading about stuff like this, just skip this

thread, ok?

Inger

Re: Pain perception *NOT FOR MINORS*

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>

> --Good post,Inger!!! Here is my slant NOT FOR THE KIDS.....i am very

> senstive to pain,but i tolerate it well.i seem to make more

> endorphins than most people.If i am engaging in consensual BDSM,i

> orgasm from being whipped,strangled,spanked,and waxed.my partners are

> careful not to leave serious bloody marks as i am very light and scar

> easily.i do seem to heal more quickly than many folks,however.i do

> NOT enjoy the dentist or other medical procedures but i DO get an

> endorphin rush aferwards.i prefer being whipped and caned to actual

> sexual intercourse. Kajira

>

>

[Guest guest]

It was too suprising, after all I am an adult and am discusted to a

certain extent.

I dont see why people have to state bedroom stuff in a respectable

place of discussion.

>

> , if you don't like reading about stuff like this, just skip this

> thread, ok?

>

> Inger

>

>

[Guest guest]

We do have a rule against posting sexually explicit stuff here.

I don't know if my post fit into that category, as I was only discussing

atypical pain sensation and only mentioning things I've written about on my

home page. Kajira took it a step further, which would probably be crossing

that line, although she DID warn against reading, as did I.

Considering the related debate from which this one sprung, I am now

uncertain what the rules for what's permissible currently are. I'll have to

leave that to Tom to decide if he wants to keep our posts in the archives or

not.

I'm also happy to leave the topic for now, unless I get asked more

questions.

Inger

Re: Pain perception *NOT FOR MINORS*

It was too suprising, after all I am an adult and am discusted to a

certain extent.

I dont see why people have to state bedroom stuff in a respectable

place of discussion.

>

> , if you don't like reading about stuff like this, just skip this

> thread, ok?

>

> Inger

>

>

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,

Sometimes Aspie sexuality will come up for discussion. When that

happens I let it ride for a little while.

The topic of BDSM has gone on long enough however, so I have called

for an end to it.

Tom

Administrator

>

> , if you don't like reading about stuff like this, just skip

this

> thread, ok?

>

> Inger

>

>

[Guest guest]

, if you don't like reading about stuff like this, just skip

this

thread, ok?

Inger

Re: Pain perception *NOT FOR MINORS*

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