Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 Hi Barbara - I agree with you, I never realized sitting in a W pose was a sign of weakness until my neuorodev. ped. explained it to me. That's why I think it's so important to be evaluated by one. My son gets o.t. twice a week for 1/2 hour sessions and one 1/2 hour of p.t. a week. Some of the things they do to build upper body strength are: they have him lay on his stomach to do activities and put a toy such as Light Bright in front of him and have him use his arms to hold his chest up and play with the toy, they will make a game out of putting toys on a scooter that has a rope attached to it, he has to pull it towards him hand over hand and then he gets to do something with the toy - usually it's puzzle pieces or something so he gets to pull one puzzle piece at a time to him in order to complete the puzzle. They also put small weights on the scooter that he is not aware of. These are a few examples but it's all incorporated into play. One more thing is in school when they pull him out of class for ot, they'll bring a scooter with them and they make a game out of letting him lay on his belly on the scooter and he has to use his hands to scoot himself down the hallway to the o.t. room. I encourage him to lay on his stomach and watch tv if I can but he does get tired doing it. I hope that helps, please let me know if you have any more questions. in NJ KDR-1@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 , Thanks for the info and activities. I spoke to my daughter's OT about it this week and she also gave advice. Unfortunately, we have few resources such as a neurodev. ped. in my area. The closest is more about 2-1/2 hours from us and right now the trip isn't feasible (old car on its last legs-stay at home mom, you get the picture). To be on the safe side, though, I think I will as soon as its possible. What disturbs me is that when was between 1 and 11/2 an 11-year-old neighbor girl pointed it out and said it wasn't good. On the chance she knew something I didn't, I asked 's pediatrician, who said it wasn't a problem, wouldn't cause any damage. I couldn't find anything on a web search, so I trusted the doctor. Just goes to show you how helpful listservs like this one are. Thanks again to you and everyone for sharing valuable info. Barbara > I agree with you, I never realized sitting in a W pose was a sign of > weakness until my neuorodev. ped. explained it to me. That's why I think > it's so important to be evaluated by one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 Hi Michele~Just a thought... My niece (7.5 yrs) still tries to sit in a " W " pattern and suggest " criss-cross applesauce " . When she was younger I suggested she sit like Pooh bear, and she'd put her legs out in front. This is difficult for some children with Sensory issues and balance. Now, thankfully, she will move her legs off to one side, still under her, but more like a lady. In Washington State > I always use the phrase " Fix your legs " to my daughter > whenever she sits that way. She automatically > straightens her legs whenever I say it. > > ===== > Michele L. Wysocki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 If you don't mind me asking what is a W pose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 Just an FYI about sitting in the W pose- It was explained to me that sitting in that pose may cause hip problems later in life. When you are in that pose, your range of motion is not as good as when your legs are straight. Try rotating from side to side with your legs in a W and then try it again when your legs are straight and you will see what I mean. I always use the phrase " Fix your legs " to my daughter whenever she sits that way. She automatically straightens her legs whenever I say it. ===== Michele L. Wysocki __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 In a message dated 2/1/02 1:39:25 PM Central Standard Time, STACYRUGH@... writes: > If you don't mind me asking what is a W pose? > When they sit like this, see how her legs are out to the sides and her butt is down.....it would look like a letter W if you looked down at her: ~*v*~*v*~*v*~*v*~ Karla Married to Joe SAHM to Jackie, , Jenna & Kamryn ~*v*~*v*~*v*~*v*~ Visit the kids sites: <A HREF= " http://jackierenee88.homestead.com/Jackie1.html " ></A> <A HREF= " http://jackierenee88.homestead.com/1.html " >ph</A> <A HREF= " http://jacjoejensplace.homestead.com/JennasPage.html " >JennaNoelle</A> <A HREF= " http://jacjoejensplace.homestead.com/NewBaby.html " >KamrynBelle</A> <A HREF= " http://jackierenee88.homestead.com/JennasStory.html " >Jenna's Story and Progress</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2002 Report Share Posted February 4, 2002 Hi all, My so 2 1/2 Apraxia, SI has always sat in the W pose. We just tell him to fix his legs and he does. The problem we have with him is he will land on his knees all the time. When he falls, when he is playing he will land on his knees pretty hard. I say it is the sensory issues, but worry a great deal on what it is doing to his knees. Any suggestions or anyone relate and what you did for that. The other thing is I wonder if he has Hypotonia, no one has ever diagnosed him with it but from what I have heard is you can have it mild. I also have noticed lately since he is so much more verbal is his breathing. When he does say something it seems he is doing it all on an exhale. He seems to be pushing the words out. Could this be inhibiting him from good articulation,etc. He is going for a re-evaluation tomorrow where he will see a Developmental pediatrician and SLP. Obviously I should mention it to them but do you think this means anything? Thanks, Eileen --- ssbsmkbab@... wrote: > My sister when she was younger use to sit that way > all the time (watching > t.v., playing with her friends, etc.). While it > didn't cause any hip problems > it did cause her knees problems as she got older. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 << The other thing is I wonder if he has Hypotonia, no one has ever diagnosed him with it but from what I have heard is you can have it mild. I >> I have always understood this to be true -- that normal muscle tone includes a range of high to low tone and that it's people who are outside of this range who have movement disorders that tend to be more serious. My son's (who is hypotonic) first OT told me this and she also said that W-sitting is a symptom of low tone. Your son could have lower than average muscle tone, I think, without being highly symptomatic. I've also learned that doctors who don't deal with this issue regularly rarely can recognize low tone unless it's totally obvious. I took to a new pediatrician once who denied he was hypotonic. ( didn't sit up till he was one, crawl till he was 18 mos, walk till he was 2 1/2, etc. -- since the doctor hadn't seen any of this, he couldn't see the more subtle evidence still present.). Good luck getting the information you need. Sue C. in Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 My son also did this and we told him to sit like an Indian. After a couple months of being really strict about him stopping, he finally did. That was a few years back and he never does it anymore. Cheryl [ ] Re: W Pose Hi all, My so 2 1/2 Apraxia, SI has always sat in the W pose. We just tell him to fix his legs and he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 My son loves to sit in the W so I bought him hip helpers and he is learning not to sit in a W. Take Care Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Lori, could you please explain what hip helpers are and where you bought them? thanks, Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Lori, What are hip helpers? PL9071@... wrote: > My son loves to sit in the W so I bought him hip helpers and he is learning > not to sit in a W. > Take Care > Lori > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 My 6 year old will W sit frequently. He has just recently been diagnosed with fine and gross motor delays, all slight but because of the number of them is receiveing PT and OT. The OT explains not to be concerned with this, it is his way of providing himself more stabilty, giving himself a wider base. And then permitting himself to remain stable for the activity at hand. You cna ask for a Therapy evaluation. I was surprised at the amount of things I learned from the therapy evaluations, and how much therapy has been helping, He receives it 1X week. and at their suggestion we have him in Karate also. Lyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 << and at their suggestion we have him in Karate also. >> That's interesting. A physiologist suggested the same thing for my son but I haven't done it. Did the therapist explain why it helps or do you have input on what it does for him? THanks Sue C. in Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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