need help with EI

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure I understand what the EI is. But from what I gather let me share

with you about my son. He is in the special pre k. I was not happy with their

evals on him in the beginning. They didn't know him, they crammed all this

testing into a short period of time, it was given by people he was not

familar with. Therefor I embarked into the private therapy world. I found a

very reputable SLP that had years of experience with apraxia and had gotten

positive results with the children. I then asked her to evaluate him (using

the same test) and provide therapy. When the results were different. I walked

into the meeting at school and said justify your results,the results can not

be accurate if they are this differnt, if we can't agree new testing has to

be done. I now ask that all testing be done over a period of time. Example

if he needs end of year testing I ask them to begin three months early and

not the entire test in one session.

I don't know where you live, but in my area we have the Learning disability

Association, most of which are volunteers and parents who have gone through

similar situations. They are extremely knowlegable about your rights. Thanks

to them I have learned alot about how my voice has a huge impact on what

services my child receives. Find out your rights you may be able to legally

request testing again in three months. Good Luck! Carole (Mom to 4,

apraxia)

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone. I had posted on here recently, I have 2 daughters,

le(5.4yrs) and Madeline(17 months) le has severe

apraxia and SDI and I had concerns with Madeline. Well, i got her

evaluated and just received the reports and I am not in agreement

with them. I have set up an appointment with my EI coordinator and

the speech therapist who did the eval, but EI already told me " i have

read the reports and I agree with what they have said " WHAT, you

don't know Madeline, how could he agree with what;s written when he

has no idea what my concerns are since he diddn't ask.

Anyway, the sppech therapist results:

PLS-3

-auditory comprehension, scored 96, 39%

-Expressive communication, scored 100, 50%

she recomends a reevaluation at 24 months.

The special ed teacher who did the other part of the eval had told me

she would definetly qualify for speech and all the other areas were

great. Here's her results:

Mullen scales of Early learning

-receptive language,5%, 13 month age equivalent,below average

-expressive language,3%, 10 month age equivalant, belwo average

-everything else was in the 15-17 month range, average

Madeline has only 3 words that she uses regularly and for more than

one meaning for 2 of them. She has lost words, like bye-bye, JJ(my

dog) and thank you. She does not imitate sounds or words. le's

private therapist and her boss both agree that she should be

receiving speech. UnfortunTELY, I diddn't have them do the EI eval

which I should've. so now I meet with the EI guy and the speech

therapist, but how do I go about it, I would prefer another speech

screening by another agency and if that's not possible then I would

prefer only having to wait 3 months(from the date of this eval) to

get a speech eval done again.

Any words of wisdom??

Debbie

le(5.4)

Madeline 17 months

[Guest guest]

I had my daughters tested Early Intervention when they were 2. They

did not qualify because their only delay was speech. They said that

the qualification was for early intervention for speech was a 50%

delay. Since my daughters were 2, that means that they had to talk

less than what a 1 year old could talk. My daughters both said a

few words, so they did not qualify.

Since your daughter is only 17 months old, then she would have to

talk less that a 9 month old. That means she would have to say no

words. If she has any words, she would not qualify.

That is what I was told back a few years ago.

The school districts qualifications are a lot less stringent. They

have to have a 25% delay to qualify for speech at 3 through the

school district. At 3, my daughters were still talking like a 1

year old, so they qualified for speech.

If your daughter has other developmental issues like she can't walk,

then she might qualify.

I live in the Silicon Valley in California just south of San

Francisco, and I don't know if this is the same in other parts of

the country.

> Hi everyone. I had posted on here recently, I have 2 daughters,

> le(5.4yrs) and Madeline(17 months) le has severe

> apraxia and SDI and I had concerns with Madeline. Well, i got her

> evaluated and just received the reports and I am not in agreement

> with them. I have set up an appointment with my EI coordinator and

> the speech therapist who did the eval, but EI already told me " i

have

> read the reports and I agree with what they have said " WHAT, you

> don't know Madeline, how could he agree with what;s written when

he

> has no idea what my concerns are since he diddn't ask.

> Anyway, the sppech therapist results:

> PLS-3

> -auditory comprehension, scored 96, 39%

> -Expressive communication, scored 100, 50%

> she recomends a reevaluation at 24 months.

>

> The special ed teacher who did the other part of the eval had told

me

> she would definetly qualify for speech and all the other areas

were

> great. Here's her results:

> Mullen scales of Early learning

> -receptive language,5%, 13 month age equivalent,below average

> -expressive language,3%, 10 month age equivalant, belwo average

> -everything else was in the 15-17 month range, average

>

> Madeline has only 3 words that she uses regularly and for more

than

> one meaning for 2 of them. She has lost words, like bye-bye, JJ(my

> dog) and thank you. She does not imitate sounds or words.

le's

> private therapist and her boss both agree that she should be

> receiving speech. UnfortunTELY, I diddn't have them do the EI eval

> which I should've. so now I meet with the EI guy and the speech

> therapist, but how do I go about it, I would prefer another speech

> screening by another agency and if that's not possible then I

would

> prefer only having to wait 3 months(from the date of this eval) to

> get a speech eval done again.

> Any words of wisdom??

>

> Debbie

> le(5.4)

> Madeline 17 months

[Guest guest]

Debbie:

It might be easier to get another speech eval done

privately (your health insurance probably would cover

it) and bring it to EI to fight them. Have you had her

hearing tested, just in case?

I don't know about her test scores, but from what you

say about her, I agree that she needs ST.

Good luck, and let us know how it's going!

Martha mom to 4.9 global developmental delay,

weak hand muscles, sensory integration dysfunction &

16 mos.

--- debgr123 <gabbydeb825@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone. I had posted on here recently, I have 2

> daughters,

> le(5.4yrs) and Madeline(17 months) le

> has severe

> apraxia and SDI and I had concerns with Madeline.

> Well, i got her

> evaluated and just received the reports and I am not

> in agreement

> with them. I have set up an appointment with my EI

> coordinator and

> the speech therapist who did the eval, but EI

> already told me " i have

> read the reports and I agree with what they have

> said " WHAT, you

> don't know Madeline, how could he agree with what;s

> written when he

> has no idea what my concerns are since he diddn't

> ask.

> Anyway, the sppech therapist results:

> PLS-3

> -auditory comprehension, scored 96, 39%

> -Expressive communication, scored 100, 50%

> she recomends a reevaluation at 24 months.

>

> The special ed teacher who did the other part of the

> eval had told me

> she would definetly qualify for speech and all the

> other areas were

> great. Here's her results:

> Mullen scales of Early learning

> -receptive language,5%, 13 month age

> equivalent,below average

> -expressive language,3%, 10 month age equivalant,

> belwo average

> -everything else was in the 15-17 month range,

> average

>

> Madeline has only 3 words that she uses regularly

> and for more than

> one meaning for 2 of them. She has lost words, like

> bye-bye, JJ(my

> dog) and thank you. She does not imitate sounds or

> words. le's

> private therapist and her boss both agree that she

> should be

> receiving speech. UnfortunTELY, I diddn't have them

> do the EI eval

> which I should've. so now I meet with the EI guy and

> the speech

> therapist, but how do I go about it, I would prefer

> another speech

> screening by another agency and if that's not

> possible then I would

> prefer only having to wait 3 months(from the date of

> this eval) to

> get a speech eval done again.

> Any words of wisdom??

>

> Debbie

> le(5.4)

> Madeline 17 months

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

EI in my state is a 25 percent or greater delay. My daughter at the

time they evaluated her was 31 months.The evaluated her language

expression scattered from the 21-24 month to 24-27 month range

[ ] Re: need help with EI

I had my daughters tested Early Intervention when they were 2.

They

did not qualify because their only delay was speech. They said

that

the qualification was for early intervention for speech was a 50%

delay. Since my daughters were 2, that means that they had to talk

less than what a 1 year old could talk. My daughters both said a

few words, so they did not qualify.

Since your daughter is only 17 months old, then she would have to

talk less that a 9 month old. That means she would have to say no

words. If she has any words, she would not qualify.

That is what I was told back a few years ago.

The school districts qualifications are a lot less stringent. They

have to have a 25% delay to qualify for speech at 3 through the

school district. At 3, my daughters were still talking like a 1

year old, so they qualified for speech.

If your daughter has other developmental issues like she can't

walk,

then she might qualify.

I live in the Silicon Valley in California just south of San

Francisco, and I don't know if this is the same in other parts of

the country.

--- In @y..., " debgr123 " <gabbydeb825@h...>

wrote:

> Hi everyone. I had posted on here recently, I have 2 daughters,

> le(5.4yrs) and Madeline(17 months) le has severe

> apraxia and SDI and I had concerns with Madeline. Well, i got her

> evaluated and just received the reports and I am not in agreement

> with them. I have set up an appointment with my EI coordinator

and

> the speech therapist who did the eval, but EI already told me " i

have

> read the reports and I agree with what they have said " WHAT, you

> don't know Madeline, how could he agree with what;s written when

he

> has no idea what my concerns are since he diddn't ask.

> Anyway, the sppech therapist results:

> PLS-3

> -auditory comprehension, scored 96, 39%

> -Expressive communication, scored 100, 50%

> she recomends a reevaluation at 24 months.

>

> The special ed teacher who did the other part of the eval had

told

me

> she would definetly qualify for speech and all the other areas

were

> great. Here's her results:

> Mullen scales of Early learning

> -receptive language,5%, 13 month age equivalent,below average

> -expressive language,3%, 10 month age equivalant, belwo average

> -everything else was in the 15-17 month range, average

>

> Madeline has only 3 words that she uses regularly and for more

than

> one meaning for 2 of them. She has lost words, like bye-bye, JJ

(my

> dog) and thank you. She does not imitate sounds or words.

le's

> private therapist and her boss both agree that she should be

> receiving speech. UnfortunTELY, I diddn't have them do the EI

eval

> which I should've. so now I meet with the EI guy and the speech

> therapist, but how do I go about it, I would prefer another

speech

> screening by another agency and if that's not possible then I

would

> prefer only having to wait 3 months(from the date of this eval)

to

> get a speech eval done again.

> Any words of wisdom??

>

> Debbie

> le(5.4)

> Madeline 17 months

[Guest guest]

I live in NY(on long island) and in order to qualify it is a 33%delay

for just one are and a 25% delay for 2 or more areas. Her only area

of concern is speech, she tested fine in all other areas.

Debbie

le(5.4)

Madeline(17 months)

--- In @y..., " luckygmstwife " <suzi_knowles@p...>

wrote:

> I had my daughters tested Early Intervention when they were 2.

They

> did not qualify because their only delay was speech. They said

that

> the qualification was for early intervention for speech was a 50%

> delay. Since my daughters were 2, that means that they had to talk

> less than what a 1 year old could talk. My daughters both said a

> few words, so they did not qualify.

>

> Since your daughter is only 17 months old, then she would have to

> talk less that a 9 month old. That means she would have to say no

> words. If she has any words, she would not qualify.

>

> That is what I was told back a few years ago.

>

> The school districts qualifications are a lot less stringent. They

> have to have a 25% delay to qualify for speech at 3 through the

> school district. At 3, my daughters were still talking like a 1

> year old, so they qualified for speech.

>

> If your daughter has other developmental issues like she can't

walk,

> then she might qualify.

>

> I live in the Silicon Valley in California just south of San

> Francisco, and I don't know if this is the same in other parts of

> the country.

>

> --- In @y..., " debgr123 " <gabbydeb825@h...>

wrote:

> > Hi everyone. I had posted on here recently, I have 2 daughters,

> > le(5.4yrs) and Madeline(17 months) le has severe

> > apraxia and SDI and I had concerns with Madeline. Well, i got her

> > evaluated and just received the reports and I am not in agreement

> > with them. I have set up an appointment with my EI coordinator

and

> > the speech therapist who did the eval, but EI already told me " i

> have

> > read the reports and I agree with what they have said " WHAT, you

> > don't know Madeline, how could he agree with what;s written when

> he

> > has no idea what my concerns are since he diddn't ask.

> > Anyway, the sppech therapist results:

> > PLS-3

> > -auditory comprehension, scored 96, 39%

> > -Expressive communication, scored 100, 50%

> > she recomends a reevaluation at 24 months.

> >

> > The special ed teacher who did the other part of the eval had

told

> me

> > she would definetly qualify for speech and all the other areas

> were

> > great. Here's her results:

> > Mullen scales of Early learning

> > -receptive language,5%, 13 month age equivalent,below average

> > -expressive language,3%, 10 month age equivalant, belwo average

> > -everything else was in the 15-17 month range, average

> >

> > Madeline has only 3 words that she uses regularly and for more

> than

> > one meaning for 2 of them. She has lost words, like bye-bye, JJ

(my

> > dog) and thank you. She does not imitate sounds or words.

> le's

> > private therapist and her boss both agree that she should be

> > receiving speech. UnfortunTELY, I diddn't have them do the EI

eval

> > which I should've. so now I meet with the EI guy and the speech

> > therapist, but how do I go about it, I would prefer another

speech

> > screening by another agency and if that's not possible then I

> would

> > prefer only having to wait 3 months(from the date of this eval)

to

> > get a speech eval done again.

> > Any words of wisdom??

> >

> > Debbie

> > le(5.4)

> > Madeline 17 months

[Guest guest]

Thanks Martha

I was thinking about getting an eval done through her insurance and

then showing that to EI. My older dd's speech therapist totally

agrees with me, as does her boss who is very experienced with

apraxia. He already told me that if I would've went through them, she

would have qualified just on the basis of her lack of speech, never

mind that she lost words.

So...I may put off this meeting next week until I can go through my

insurance for a private eval , and then meet with them, just not sure

how long all this will take!

And I haven't had her hearing tested yet but she understands

everything you say to her so it wasn't really a concern for me.

Debbie

> > Hi everyone. I had posted on here recently, I have 2

> > daughters,

> > le(5.4yrs) and Madeline(17 months) le

> > has severe

> > apraxia and SDI and I had concerns with Madeline.

> > Well, i got her

> > evaluated and just received the reports and I am not

> > in agreement

> > with them. I have set up an appointment with my EI

> > coordinator and

> > the speech therapist who did the eval, but EI

> > already told me " i have

> > read the reports and I agree with what they have

> > said " WHAT, you

> > don't know Madeline, how could he agree with what;s

> > written when he

> > has no idea what my concerns are since he diddn't

> > ask.

> > Anyway, the sppech therapist results:

> > PLS-3

> > -auditory comprehension, scored 96, 39%

> > -Expressive communication, scored 100, 50%

> > she recomends a reevaluation at 24 months.

> >

> > The special ed teacher who did the other part of the

> > eval had told me

> > she would definetly qualify for speech and all the

> > other areas were

> > great. Here's her results:

> > Mullen scales of Early learning

> > -receptive language,5%, 13 month age

> > equivalent,below average

> > -expressive language,3%, 10 month age equivalant,

> > belwo average

> > -everything else was in the 15-17 month range,

> > average

> >

> > Madeline has only 3 words that she uses regularly

> > and for more than

> > one meaning for 2 of them. She has lost words, like

> > bye-bye, JJ(my

> > dog) and thank you. She does not imitate sounds or

> > words. le's

> > private therapist and her boss both agree that she

> > should be

> > receiving speech. UnfortunTELY, I diddn't have them

> > do the EI eval

> > which I should've. so now I meet with the EI guy and

> > the speech

> > therapist, but how do I go about it, I would prefer

> > another speech

> > screening by another agency and if that's not

> > possible then I would

> > prefer only having to wait 3 months(from the date of

> > this eval) to

> > get a speech eval done again.

> > Any words of wisdom??

> >

> > Debbie

> > le(5.4)

> > Madeline 17 months

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Debbie:

You've got it all together! Good luck and let us know

how it's going.

Martha

--- debgr123 <gabbydeb825@...> wrote:

> Thanks Martha

> I was thinking about getting an eval done through

> her insurance and

> then showing that to EI. My older dd's speech

> therapist totally

> agrees with me, as does her boss who is very

> experienced with

> apraxia. He already told me that if I would've went

> through them, she

> would have qualified just on the basis of her lack

> of speech, never

> mind that she lost words.

> So...I may put off this meeting next week until I

> can go through my

> insurance for a private eval , and then meet with

> them, just not sure

> how long all this will take!

> And I haven't had her hearing tested yet but she

> understands

> everything you say to her so it wasn't really a

> concern for me.

>

> Debbie

>

>

>

> > > Hi everyone. I had posted on here recently, I

> have 2

> > > daughters,

> > > le(5.4yrs) and Madeline(17 months)

> le

> > > has severe

> > > apraxia and SDI and I had concerns with

> Madeline.

> > > Well, i got her

> > > evaluated and just received the reports and I am

> not

> > > in agreement

> > > with them. I have set up an appointment with my

> EI

> > > coordinator and

> > > the speech therapist who did the eval, but EI

> > > already told me " i have

> > > read the reports and I agree with what they have

> > > said " WHAT, you

> > > don't know Madeline, how could he agree with

> what;s

> > > written when he

> > > has no idea what my concerns are since he

> diddn't

> > > ask.

> > > Anyway, the sppech therapist results:

> > > PLS-3

> > > -auditory comprehension, scored 96, 39%

> > > -Expressive communication, scored 100, 50%

> > > she recomends a reevaluation at 24 months.

> > >

> > > The special ed teacher who did the other part of

> the

> > > eval had told me

> > > she would definetly qualify for speech and all

> the

> > > other areas were

> > > great. Here's her results:

> > > Mullen scales of Early learning

> > > -receptive language,5%, 13 month age

> > > equivalent,below average

> > > -expressive language,3%, 10 month age

> equivalant,

> > > belwo average

> > > -everything else was in the 15-17 month range,

> > > average

> > >

> > > Madeline has only 3 words that she uses

> regularly

> > > and for more than

> > > one meaning for 2 of them. She has lost words,

> like

> > > bye-bye, JJ(my

> > > dog) and thank you. She does not imitate sounds

> or

> > > words. le's

> > > private therapist and her boss both agree that

> she

> > > should be

> > > receiving speech. UnfortunTELY, I diddn't have

> them

> > > do the EI eval

> > > which I should've. so now I meet with the EI guy

> and

> > > the speech

> > > therapist, but how do I go about it, I would

> prefer

> > > another speech

> > > screening by another agency and if that's not

> > > possible then I would

> > > prefer only having to wait 3 months(from the

> date of

> > > this eval) to

> > > get a speech eval done again.

> > > Any words of wisdom??

> > >

> > > Debbie

> > > le(5.4)

> > > Madeline 17 months

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

> I wonder why they have to be so delayed in California. My daughters

> would have had no problem complying with the 25% delay in two areas

> or 33% in one.

my daughter is 9 months delayed in one area they care about and 4 months

delayed in the other 2.....to qualify for our public assistance she has to be

6 months in EACH area...

I am fortunate enough to have kaiser that will cover speech therapy......for

a short period of time...

Karin

Mom to

9

&

Rebekah 12/23/99 Corrected (not surgically) TGA, VSD, PS and dextrocardia

[Guest guest]

I wonder why they have to be so delayed in California. My daughters

would have had no problem complying with the 25% delay in two areas

or 33% in one.

No wonder so many people have gotten early intervention. I was

wondering how so many people qualified, and my daughters did not.

I am not a big fan of California, and it just adds another thing to

be upset in this state: high taxes and crappy services!

> I live in NY(on long island) and in order to qualify it is a 33%

delay

> for just one are and a 25% delay for 2 or more areas. Her only

area

> of concern is speech, she tested fine in all other areas.

>

> Debbie

> le(5.4)

> Madeline(17 months)

>