Re: Other languages WAS: Alternate view

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>Let's see how many languages we can cover as a group. :-)>Raven

English (several varieties), French, Spanish

Amy

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" English (several varieties)... "

What are different varieties of English please?

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> >Let's see how many languages we can cover as a group. :-)

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> >Raven

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> English (several varieties), French, Spanish

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> Amy

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Well there is Britsh English, American English, Canadian English, Second Language English, Slang Dialect English.Ubonics (the name for black slang english) enough for you . Hope it helps, Beth greebohere <julie.stevenson16@...> wrote: "English (several varieties)..."What are different varieties of English please?>> > >Let's see how many languages we can cover as a group. :-)> > >Raven> > English (several varieties), French, Spanish> > Amy>

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Well there is Britsh English, American English, Canadian English, Second Language English, Slang Dialect English.Ubonics (the name for black slang english) enough for you . Hope it helps, Beth greebohere <julie.stevenson16@...> wrote: "English (several varieties)..."What are different varieties of English please?>> > >Let's see how many languages we can cover as a group. :-)> > >Raven> > English (several varieties), French, Spanish> > Amy>

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I just thought English was English.

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> Well there is Britsh English, American English, Canadian English,

Second Language English, Slang Dialect English.Ubonics (the name for

black slang english) enough for you . Hope it helps,

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> Beth

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This is why we don't understand each other sometimes, you speak Britsh English and I speak American English with some Slang throw in for good measure. Bethgreebohere <julie.stevenson16@...> wrote: I just thought English was English.>> Well there is Britsh English, American English, Canadian English, Second Language English, Slang Dialect English.Ubonics (the name for black slang english) enough for you . Hope it helps,> > Beth

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Mmmmmmm I just have trouble understanding people full stop - doesn't

matter where they come from :-) but I do get what you mean, some

phrases and sayings are not same and can lead to confusion, best to get

clarification, still I can make some embarrasing mistakes - I was just

discussing this today with someone.

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> This is why we don't understand each other sometimes, you speak

Britsh English and I speak American English with some Slang throw in

for good measure.

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> Beth

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> >Let's see how many languages we can cover as a group. :-)

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> >Raven

Hi all.

I am relatively new to the group. I have been lurking for some time,

but I have not posted much until now.

As far as languages go, I have a B.A. with a linguistics

concentration, so I am quite a polyglot, with a particular interest

in European, Indo-Iranian, West African and Eastern Woodland Native

American languages.

I am also going to put in a shameless plug for my 360 page

with a blog written in the dialect of Romani spoken until recently

by the Kale Roma (or so-called 'Gypsies') in Wales:

todgar

Cheers.

Todd

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" As far as languages go, I have a B.A. with a linguistics

> concentration, so I am quite a polyglot, with a particular interest

> in European, Indo-Iranian, West African and Eastern Woodland Native

> American languages. "

Hi, Todd. That's interesting. I admire the gift of languages, I am not

good at them. I love how you can express different things in different

languages. I know the other person has to understand the language too,

but do you find you can express a lot more, knowing more languages, and

does it help you find more words to express things? I feel like English

is lacking a lot of ways to say different things (unless I haven't even

been able to master English, either!).

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Hey Todd! Welcome to Society! :-)

I really enjoyed reading about your linguistic journeys.

Raven

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> > >Let's see how many languages we can cover as a group. :-)

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> Hi all.

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> I am relatively new to the group. I have been lurking for some

time,

> but I have not posted much until now.

>

> As far as languages go, I have a B.A. with a linguistics

> concentration, so I am quite a polyglot, with a particular

interest

> in European, Indo-Iranian, West African and Eastern Woodland

Native

> American languages.

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> I am also going to put in a shameless plug for my 360 page

> with a blog written in the dialect of Romani spoken until recently

> by the Kale Roma (or so-called 'Gypsies') in Wales:

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> todgar

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> Cheers.

> Todd

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Cheers to you too Todd.

I've got a BA in English. American literature is my specialty.

By the way folks, the question was asked what languages folks speak? I

speak a little Spanish, but understand it better than I speak it.

Tom

Administrator

Cheers.

Todd

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> " By the way folks, the question was asked what languages folks speak?

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> speak a little Spanish, but understand it better than I speak it. "

I used to know a little Spanish (4 years in high school) but never used

it so it's not available to me (latent, hopefully?).

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In a message dated 5/4/2006 3:52:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, msaraann@... writes:

I think it's because English culture, and the cultures that spawnedit, and thus created the rules for use of language and defined thewords, etc., were destructive, disharmonious cultures.-sara

English was created from a number of different cultures and language groups. It is primarily a merging of Romance languages (Latin and French) and Germanic languages (German primarily), as well as native Celtic, Saxon, Anglo and other groups. Combining all of these langauges into a functioning whole is something of a miracle.

As for the culture being destructive, try to find a culture on earth that isn't. Some cultures say they aren't and we do have a rosy view of a number of primitive cultures, but if you honestly examine them, they all have their brutish side, especially in the past.

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> I used to know a little Spanish (4 years in high school) but never used

> it so it's not available to me (latent, hopefully?).

I spoke Spanish all throughout high school and two years during

college. I never felt fluent, because I had trouble following

conversations, but I spoke and read well. I thought I had lost Spanish

until the other day when I heard a woman at the zoo asked her husband

a question in Spanish and he answered in English. It was the strangest

sensation for me to have understood them both because the question and

answer contained one of the same words, but in different languages,

and the image came up in my mind both times, but it felt as if from

different areas of my brain. I hadn't been trying to understand; it

just happened spontaneously.

I know English very well, and find myself obsessed by its uses, but I

don't like the way it influences how we perceive the world. I've been

experimenting with ways to transform English so it better expresses

what I feel, how I think.

-sara

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" It was the strangest

> sensation for me to have understood them both because the question and

> answer contained one of the same words, but in different languages,

> and the image came up in my mind both times, but it felt as if from

> different areas of my brain. I hadn't been trying to understand; it

> just happened spontaneously. "

That's a good sign that maybe you KNOW Spanish, if it doesn't require

translation in your head.

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> " I know English very well, and find myself obsessed by its uses, but I

> don't like the way it influences how we perceive the world. I've been

> experimenting with ways to transform English so it better expresses

> what I feel, how I think. "

I'm glad you say that, because I really have the feeling that English

doesn't express how I feel or think well enough, but another language

would. I've noticed how in some languages you can say more with less

words or that the word can have a deeper meaning or it has several

meanings depending on context. When I hear certain thoughts expressed

in another language it seems so much easier, clearer and more

expressive. Maybe because English is a mish-mash bastardized kind of

language? But Jamaican patois seems a lot more expressive and concise

and that's a mish-mash.

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> I'm glad you say that, because I really have the feeling that English

> doesn't express how I feel or think well enough, but another language

> would. I've noticed how in some languages you can say more with less

> words or that the word can have a deeper meaning or it has several

> meanings depending on context. When I hear certain thoughts expressed

> in another language it seems so much easier, clearer and more

> expressive. Maybe because English is a mish-mash bastardized kind of

> language? But Jamaican patois seems a lot more expressive and concise

> and that's a mish-mash.

I think it's because English culture, and the cultures that spawned

it, and thus created the rules for use of language and defined the

words, etc., were destructive, disharmonious cultures.

-sara

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