Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 In a message dated 2/11/02 10:09:12 AM, ltathome80@... writes: << For example this morning I Woke him up for school and he was so mad he was screaming uncontrollably the whole morning till he went on the bus. In general does anyone have any good techniques to deal with this behavior. he i pretty much non verbal but, has good receptive language and is extremely spoiled doesn't listen to anything. Sorry so long, Debra >> I wrote earlier that a behavioral psychologist recommended using choices with my son, who also fits the above description. So when you want him to do something, try giving him some control, like in the morning, offering for him to eat breakfast first or get dressed. Then, even though he doesn 't really want to do either thing, he ends up choosing one of them just in order to have some say-so in his life. This may not work with your son, but it sometimes does with mine (or at least did for a while -- a year or so and even somewhat now...) Also, get him to bed earlier, maybe?? Sue in Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Debra, This is probably a long shot, but two things that I found helpful were giving him a tiny bit of sodium bicarbonate, or I used a product that contained only lipase (the fat digestive enzyme). It maybe he isn't digesting the fat, that is what the lipase enzyme is suppose to do. Best, lollipop11230 wrote: > > Hi everyone. My son just began taking pro efa around 10 days ago. I > have not seen any positive results but, I heard it could take time > so I am waiting. However I think since he started the pro efa he has > been LESS calm and throws tantrums more often than before. He even > wakes up more in the middle of the night. Isn't the pro efa supposed > to calm them down? He was sick last week so maybe his behavior could > be attributed to that but, I think its possible that the pro efa > could be causing the behaviors. He wasn't a model child before but > lately he's been out of control. For example this morning I Woke him > up for school and he was so mad he was screaming uncontrollably the > whole morning till he went on the bus. In general does anyone have > any good techniques to deal with this behavior. he i pretty much non > verbal but, has good receptive language and is extremely spoiled > doesn't listen to anything. Sorry so long, Debra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2002 Report Share Posted February 12, 2002 Hi , i'm out of the closet as someone who has a strong belief that diet has helped my son .............. so take this or leave it !! Night waking ( does he giggle when he wakes ?) can be a sign of phenol intolerance ( highly coloured foods - chocolate, strawberry etc)or dairy intolerance. My sons tantrums abated when I cut down on milk/casein. He may be reacting to something in the pro-efa but if it helps his speech it may be worth it . Does he try to talk to you because he may be finding that life is just fine at the moment without speech ( ie if he gets his own way a lot as you seem to suggest) We were given the 'choices' suggestion too and it did seem to help . Good luck Regards Deborah > up for school and he was so mad he was screaming uncontrollably the > whole morning till he went on the bus. In general does anyone have > any good techniques to deal with this behavior. he i pretty much non > verbal but, has good receptive language and is extremely spoiled > doesn't listen to anything. Sorry so long, Debra >> > > I wrote earlier that a behavioral psychologist recommended using choices with > my son, who also fits the above description. So when you want him to do > something, try giving him some control, like in the morning, offering for him > to eat breakfast first or get dressed. Then, even though he doesn 't really > want to do either thing, he ends up choosing one of them just in order to > have some say-so in his life. This may not work with your son, but it > sometimes does with mine (or at least did for a while -- a year or so and > even somewhat now...) Also, get him to bed earlier, maybe?? > Sue in Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2002 Report Share Posted February 12, 2002 HI. THANKS FOR RESPONDING. I WILL KEEP AT IT EVEN WITH THE TANTRUMS. HE DEFINITELY DID NOT GET CALMER BUT, MAYBE IT IS TOO SOON FOR IT TO WORK. HE USUALLY POINTS TO GET WHAT HE WANTS RATHER THAN SAY THE WORD AND THEN I WILL HAVE TO SAY SAY THE WORD AND SOMETIMES IT WILL BE CORRECT AND SOMETIMES NOT. REGARDING THE DIET ALL MY SON EATS IS DAIRY AND STARCH PRODUCTS. I DON'T KNOW HOW I COULD PUT HIM ON ANY SORT OF DIET. HE IS SO LIMITED AND PICKY WITH HIS FOOD. DEBRA > Hi , > i'm out of the closet as someone who has a strong belief that diet > has helped my son .............. so take this or leave it !! > Night waking ( does he giggle when he wakes ?) can be a sign of > phenol intolerance ( highly coloured foods - chocolate, strawberry > etc)or dairy intolerance. > My sons tantrums abated when I cut down on milk/casein. He may be > reacting to something in the pro-efa but if it helps his speech it > may be worth it . Does he try to talk to you because he may be > finding that life is just fine at the moment without speech ( ie if > he gets his own way a lot as you seem to suggest) We were given > the 'choices' suggestion too and it did seem to help . Good luck > Regards > Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 Hi Debra, Good luck as you hang in there . I can remember only too claearly what it was like so I shall be thinking of you . I'm sorry to seem persistent but the very fact that he is restricting himself to dairy and starchy ( wheat/ flour ? ) food is a HUGE sign that he has a problem with these foods . The theory is that when these foods leak into the bloodstaem and circulate to the brain they change into opoids ( glutamorphine and casamorphine ) . Can you spot the similarity ? Morphine ! These substances hit the brain like a drug and then leave the child feeling low and temperamental when the effect wears off. Hence erratic behaviour , occasional giggling , lack of sleep and then big tantrums and fractiousness when the effect is wearing off . If this is what is happening then the tantrums will continue. Would you plese at least consider it IF ( IF IF !)the tantrums don't go away . It can be hard to implement but , if this is what is going on with your child, it is definitely worth it . Of course your kiddie may just be having a bad week in which case I'm sure he should be feeling better soon !!! Best regards Deborah -- In @y..., " lollipop11230 " <ltathome80@a...> wrote: > HI. THANKS FOR RESPONDING. I WILL KEEP AT IT EVEN WITH THE > TANTRUMS. HE DEFINITELY DID NOT GET CALMER BUT, MAYBE IT IS TOO SOON > FOR IT TO WORK. HE USUALLY POINTS TO GET WHAT HE WANTS RATHER THAN > SAY THE WORD AND THEN I WILL HAVE TO SAY SAY THE WORD AND SOMETIMES > IT WILL BE CORRECT AND SOMETIMES NOT. REGARDING THE DIET ALL MY SON > EATS IS DAIRY AND STARCH PRODUCTS. I DON'T KNOW HOW I COULD PUT HIM > ON ANY SORT OF DIET. HE IS SO LIMITED AND PICKY WITH HIS FOOD. > DEBRA > > > Hi , > > i'm out of the closet as someone who has a strong belief that diet > > has helped my son .............. so take this or leave it !! > > Night waking ( does he giggle when he wakes ?) can be a sign of > > phenol intolerance ( highly coloured foods - chocolate, strawberry > > etc)or dairy intolerance. > > My sons tantrums abated when I cut down on milk/casein. He may be > > reacting to something in the pro-efa but if it helps his speech it > > may be worth it . Does he try to talk to you because he may be > > finding that life is just fine at the moment without speech ( ie if > > he gets his own way a lot as you seem to suggest) We were given > > the 'choices' suggestion too and it did seem to help . Good luck > > Regards > > Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 >> dairy and starchy ( wheat/ flour ? ) food is a HUGE sign that he has a problem with these foods . The theory is that when these foods leak into the bloodstaem and circulate to the brain they change into opoids ( glutamorphine and casamorphine ) . Can you spot the similarity ? Morphine ! These substances hit the brain like a drug and then leave the child feeling low and temperamental when the effect wears off. Hence erratic behaviour , occasional giggling , lack of sleep and then big tantrums and fractiousness when the effect is wearing off << Can I jump in here with two questions for Deborah? 1. Are there reliable and/or conventional tests for intolerance so that you're not guessing? 2. Why, if these foods create opoids, would only some people have that reaction? Thanks. Sue C. in Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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