Re: Seeds and who not to buy from--nys on the list!

[Guest guest]

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Do you sell your vegetables or provide a CSA?

Thanks.

>

> First, here is a list of seed companies owned/supplied by Semenis which is

owned by Monsanto. Monsanto purchased them (Semenis) in 2005 if I remember

correctly. While some of these companies may offer heirloom and non-Monsanto

products, I avoid them. Monsanto is evil.

>

> http://us.seminis.com/products/hg_dealer.asp

>

> De Ruiter seeds is Monsantos protected veggie seed department. Most of this

is going to be large growers, hoop houses/green houses.

>

> Semenis also directly sells some veggie seeds directly to large dealers who in

turn may resell to smaller programs (back yard gardens).

>

>

> For veggies I have purchased from:

>

> Baker Creek--awesome germination, more seeds than listed in every pack, they

keep well too. I started some last year that were in the packs for 3 years and

I had about 80% germination in the worst flat planted. rareseeds.com And

shipping from them is $3 no matter how large your order.

>

> Annies--another great company. And those seeds sprout! helped water

last winter when we were planting and he watered some of the seed packets. We

ended up planting over 300 sprouted celery seeds. I don't think there were any

seeds in that packet that did not sprout!!

> anniesheirloomseeds.com

>

>

> Seed Savers Exchange is great. I am not sure if they were purchased by

Monsanto or someone who owned stock or what the rumor was but may be worth

checking into. Either way, they do have good seeds and if you are a member you

have access to a much larger amount than what is listed on the site or catalogs.

seedsavers.org

>

> This is where I have purchased some of my grains from in the past.

http://sustainableseedco.com/

>

> This is where I get some poultry and sweet potatoes from:

http://www.sandhillpreservation.com/

>

> Another grain one I saved:

> http://www.saltspringseeds.com/catalog/index.cfm?categoryid=34

>

> Last grain one:

> http://www.prseeds.ca/catalogue/grain.php?C=Grain

>

> seedsofchange.com Owned by Mars candy company but they do have good seed.

lol!

>

> Here is a list of who has signed the safe seed pledge:

> http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=261 You

will have to see who the parent company is of some of these retailers, I don't

have time to look them all up.

>

> How to avoid some Monsanto crap:

>

> http://www.garden-of-eatin.com/how-to-avoid-monsanto/

>

> Last thing about Monsanto/Semenis:

> http://www.seedalliance.org/Seed_News/SeminisMonsanto/

>

>

> Richters is a good place to get Herbs. They are out of Canada. Good

selection, a bit spendy tho.

>

> Another way is to trade seeds with people who have heirloom seeds.

>

> You can also keep your seed from year to year on the heirlooms. They are open

pollinated so some things need a bit of space to not cross pollinate but it can

be done with a little bit of research on how far to distance them, how to save

the seed, and how to keep them from cross pollinating. It is worth it tho, I

have many different types that I have saved over the years.

>

> And heirlooms are yummy!!

>

> Oh--trees and such: Treesofantiquity.com They have them divided up into zones

as well as a bit of history.

>

> Have fun!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this list. I just looked at the Bakers list and will

probably choose them. So much better than the Burpee seeds I typically

buy! I'm proud to be making a choice with my dollars and I appreciate your

providing a list for those of us who hadn't even thought to worry about our

seed source!

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On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM, cjchubiz <cchubiz@...> wrote:

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>

> ,

>

> Do you sell your vegetables or provide a CSA?

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

> >

> > First, here is a list of seed companies owned/supplied by Semenis which

> is owned by Monsanto. Monsanto purchased them (Semenis) in 2005 if I

> remember correctly. While some of these companies may offer heirloom and

> non-Monsanto products, I avoid them. Monsanto is evil.

> >

> > http://us.seminis.com/products/hg_dealer.asp

> >

> > De Ruiter seeds is Monsantos protected veggie seed department. Most of

> this is going to be large growers, hoop houses/green houses.

> >

> > Semenis also directly sells some veggie seeds directly to large dealers

> who in turn may resell to smaller programs (back yard gardens).

> >

> >

> > For veggies I have purchased from:

> >

> > Baker Creek--awesome germination, more seeds than listed in every pack,

> they keep well too. I started some last year that were in the packs for 3

> years and I had about 80% germination in the worst flat planted.

> rareseeds.com And shipping from them is $3 no matter how large your

> order.

> >

> > Annies--another great company. And those seeds sprout! helped water

> last winter when we were planting and he watered some of the seed packets.

> We ended up planting over 300 sprouted celery seeds. I don't think there

> were any seeds in that packet that did not sprout!!

> > anniesheirloomseeds.com

> >

> >

> > Seed Savers Exchange is great. I am not sure if they were purchased by

> Monsanto or someone who owned stock or what the rumor was but may be worth

> checking into. Either way, they do have good seeds and if you are a member

> you have access to a much larger amount than what is listed on the site or

> catalogs. seedsavers.org

> >

> > This is where I have purchased some of my grains from in the past.

> http://sustainableseedco.com/

> >

> > This is where I get some poultry and sweet potatoes from:

> http://www.sandhillpreservation.com/

> >

> > Another grain one I saved:

> > http://www.saltspringseeds.com/catalog/index.cfm?categoryid=34

> >

> > Last grain one:

> > http://www.prseeds.ca/catalogue/grain.php?C=Grain

> >

> > seedsofchange.com Owned by Mars candy company but they do have good

> seed. lol!

> >

> > Here is a list of who has signed the safe seed pledge:

> > http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=261You

will have to see who the parent company is of some of these retailers,

> I don't have time to look them all up.

> >

> > How to avoid some Monsanto crap:

> >

> > http://www.garden-of-eatin.com/how-to-avoid-monsanto/

> >

> > Last thing about Monsanto/Semenis:

> > http://www.seedalliance.org/Seed_News/SeminisMonsanto/

> >

> >

> > Richters is a good place to get Herbs. They are out of Canada. Good

> selection, a bit spendy tho.

> >

> > Another way is to trade seeds with people who have heirloom seeds.

> >

> > You can also keep your seed from year to year on the heirlooms. They are

> open pollinated so some things need a bit of space to not cross pollinate

> but it can be done with a little bit of research on how far to distance

> them, how to save the seed, and how to keep them from cross pollinating. It

> is worth it tho, I have many different types that I have saved over the

> years.

> >

> > And heirlooms are yummy!!

> >

> > Oh--trees and such: Treesofantiquity.com They have them divided up into

> zones as well as a bit of history.

> >

> > Have fun!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Probably not this year or very limited if I do at all. I am going to be

delivering CSA's for the Amish who just moved up here from Missouri this summer.

Will have a garden and will be saving seeds, I might do one farmers market but

most of the energy is going to be put into storing food for the family. No

place to put in a huge garden that is convenient yet. Working on that problem

tho!

But in a couple of weeks seeds will be started--spring is coming!

The tunnels will be going up and if worse comes to worse, I will have to sell a

lot of the plants I would normally put in my garden. But those seeds can be

saved for the next generation as well!

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>

> Do you sell your vegetables or provide a CSA?

>

> Thanks.

>

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