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Help! My son has a terrible yeast infection and I am starting to feel

the effects myself... My first question is: could brewing the k-tea

have encouraged yeast to grow in our house and cause this? Could

applying the tea have any benefits? I am really worried that brewing

this fermented product could be aiding to the problem. Please set me

straight!

Thanks!

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In message <g9meds+h4seeGroups> you wrote:

> Help! My son has a terrible yeast infection and I am starting to feel

> the effects myself... My first question is: could brewing the k-tea

> have encouraged yeast to grow in our house and cause this? Could

> applying the tea have any benefits? I am really worried that brewing

> this fermented product could be aiding to the problem. Please set me

> straight!

Here a short, to the point answer from Gunther and afterwards lots

more different voices I have collected in my 'Candida' box':

Q: I wonder if anyone has experience with kombucha tea and

Candida. Any info you could pass along would be appreciated.

A: There are pathogen (harmful) and apathogen (harmless) yeasts.

> Kombucha is of the harmless kind.

The Schizosacharomycodes, that is in the Kombucha culture, is a yeast that

and is not in the family of candida, so it can be actually antagonistic to

the troublesome yeast that infects so many people.

Prof. Rieth, Hamburg, Germans leading expert in Mycology confirmed me: There

is absolutely no risk in drinking Kombucha as regards of yeast infections

since the Kombucha yeast are apathogen. You can rely on his judgment that is

based on careful research work. Prof Rieth also told me, there is very

little knowledge of mycology (fungal diseases) even at doctors and many

wrong allegations are made.

So enjoy your Kombucha.

Gunther

Gunther W. , Genossensch.-Str. 10, 75217 Birkenfeld/Germany

The Most High has created medicines out of the earth

-----sep--------------------------------------------------------

From: Porzio, Leonard V.

Date: 03 Jan 96 13:16:49 EST

Subject: Results after 4 months

" For the first six weeks the effects seemed to intensify my candida

symptoms and my bowels were running amuck. However, after 3 months I was

cured of my candida infestation and my intestines are back to normal

functioning, something I haven't experienced in at least 3 years! "

-----sep--------------------------------------------------------

From: APHarlan

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 12:52:01 -0400

Subject: CANDIDA SHOWDOWN AT KOMBUCHA CORRAL

" My personal experience has been that kombucha tea has GREATLY alleviated

problems with Candida, to the point that I don't even think about it anymore

It was not my impetus for taking it, and I was initially concerned that it

might worsen the condition. I make my brew somewhat vinegary, just to burn

up the sugar, but haven't had any reaction except loss of that wonderful

bloated feeling with its associated discomforts. "

-----sep--------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:00:36 -0500

From: Len Porzio

kombucha@...

Subject: Candida

Reprinted and modified on behalf of new list members suffering from candida:

For those of you that have seen this before, I apologize. But there

still seems to be a need to get the word out:

" Candida is a naturally occurring yeast which lives in the mucous

membranes of the gastrointestinal and genitourinary tracts as well as

on the skin. By the time we are six months old, as many as 95

percent of us are supporting intestinal candida colonies. When an

overgrowth occurs, it is the result of an imbalance in the intestinal

flora. Antibiotics, birth control pills, pregnancy, diabetes, and

cortisone-like drugs (including steroids) encourage yeast growth. Also to

blame are diets high in sugar and low in fiber. "

The Yeast Syndrome

Drs.Trowbridge and

Candida infestation happened to me in 1992 as a result of a life long

diet high in sugar and other refined carbs. I suspect a bee-pollen

honey mixture I was taking finally tipped the scales since the

combination B vitamins and sugar was the perfect breeding ground for Candida

For three years I tried various diets and remedies to rid myself of the

problem, with marginal success. They all helped but none gave permanent

results.

In July, 95 I began brewing Kombucha Tea (KT) and by that September I

discovered that a very mature KT brew, just about vinegar strength, seemed

to be having a positive impact on my condition.

By that Christmas that year my symptoms were gone. I can say with

confidence, this time it's permanent! Once again I can eat whatever I want

whether or not I drink KT. But I still drink it because I like it and

value it's health benefits in general.

Yes KT contains various yeast cultures. All of them excellent for the

digestive track. Theory has it that, since these are competitors to

Candida albicans they tend to starve it out. At the same time the

detoxifying nature of KT helps rid ones system of the toxins produced by

candida, insuring these toxins don't further depress your immune system.

To be noted, however:

For the first 3-4 weeks I was more prone to colds, had a persistent raw

throat and very oily skin.

For the first 6 weeks the effects seemed to intensify my candida

symptoms and my bowels were running amuck. However, after 3 months I was

cured of the infestation and my intestines were back to normal

functioning, something I hadn't experienced in the previous 3 years.

IMHO, during the early weeks of detoxifying with KT, the proverbial week

link in a person's health chain will always show signs of stress. But if you

proceed cautiously, this irritating phase relents and health is

restored.

For me this period was 3 months but, aside from candida, I had a strong

healthy body and was in excellent athletic condition.

Still C-free thanks to KT,

--Len Porzio (In glorious Charlottesville, VA)

-----sep--------------------------------------------------------

From: LPorzio

Subject: RE: [KT] candida

Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:29:21 -0700

There are many testimonials by Candida suffers to the benefits of KT in the

archives. I wish I had my old postings handy, but suffice it to say KT

cured me of a long bout with candida in a matter of months after suffering

with it for 4 years prior to drinking KT.

Two things to remember when treating candida with KT. First make sure that

the brew is very mature - almost to the point of being vinegar but more on

the tart than sour side. You don't want to ingest any sugar since the

candida just love sugar.

Second expect the symptoms to get worse initially before they improve. My

first couple of weeks were very uncomfortable as the yeast die off put more

stress on my system as did the general detox effects one gets when

beginning to use KT. You might want to gradually increase the dose as you

feel your body can deal with the detox.

By the third week you should begin to see gradual improvement. It took me

about 3 months to completely rid myself of my candida problems. I've been

clean since 1996.

- Len (In Charlottesville, VA)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: atlantic1

Subject: Re: [KT] candida

Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:31:47 -0700

Below is a quote from Gunther 's website, the foremost authority on

Kombucha (I wish I could converse in German as well as he does in English):

Worry about Candida or other yeast infections? Not so! Kombucha is a

different kind of Yeast-Fungi. There are pathogen (harmful) and apathogen

(harmless) yeasts. Kombucha is of the harmless kind. Since kombucha is

called a " mushroom " by many people, and a " fungus " by others, and since it

is a yeast as well as a bacterial ferment, there are those who will

automatically warn all candida albicans victims - those with chronic

candiasis or any other kind of yeast infections - to stay away from Kombucha

However, this is not right.

The Schizosacharomycodes, that is in the Kombucha culture, is a yeast that

is not in the family of candida, so it can be actually antagonistic to the

troublesome yeast that infects so many people. Kombucha is likely to be

very beneficial for the following reason. Candida albicans is a yeast which

competes with your bowel microflora and produces nothing in the way of

benefit to the host organism. It occupies the body's defenses which have to

be mobilized to oppose it. While this is going on your immune system can

not effectively deal with other infections. Kombucha, on the other hand, is

a community of microorganisms that do have a beneficial effect on the host,

namely by producing glucuronic acid. The yeasts in Kombucha compete with

the candida yeasts and gradually replace them. They reproduce vegitatively

or by fission rather than by producing spores. This means that instead of

having an enemy inside you, you have a friend.

In addition you will also have some of the organisms which will colonize

your gut somewhat and continue their good work. Provided that your batch is

not contaminated with mold, there is nothing in Kombucha that can harm you.

It is true that certain people may have a sensitivity to it, but that can

be alleviated by reducing the dose. So that is about it. Nothing mystical!

Nothing magical! and nothing harmful.

Prof. Rieth, Hamburg, Germans leading expert in Mycology confirmed me: There

is absolutely no risk in drinking Kombucha as regards of yeast infections

since the Kombucha yeast are apathogen. You can rely on his judgment that

is based on careful research work. There is a large amount of scientific

papers which proof, that there is no danger and no concern against the

preparing of your own Kombucha beverage. Prof. Rieth told me, there is very

little knowledge of mycology (fungal diseases) even at doctors and many

wrong allegations are made.

The German " Bundesgesundheitsamt " (the top Public Health Office in Germany

like the FDA in the USA) says: " Kombucha is not injurious to health " . I

hope that this is of value to some people who are worried by the fear and

anxiety spread about KT by the tabloid media in particular.

http://www.kombu.de/candida.htm

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Porzio, Leonard V.

Subject: Candida

Date: 4/03/96

For those of you that have seen this before, I apologize. But there still

seems to be a need to get the word out:

" Candida is a naturally occurring yeast which lives in the

mucous membranes of the gastrointestinal and genitourinary

tracts as well as on the skin. By the time we are six months

old, as many as 95 percent of us are supporting intestinal

candida colonies. When an overgrowth occurs, it is the result

of an imbalance in the intestinal flora. Antibiotics, birth

control pills, pregnancy, diabetis, and cortisone-like drugs

(including steroids) encourage yeast growth. Also to blame are

diets high in sugar and low in fiber. "

The Yeast Syndrome

Drs.Trowbridge and

Candida infestation happened to me about 4 years ago as a result of a life

long diet high in sugar and other refined carbs. I suspect a bee-pollen

honey mixture I was taking finally tipped the scales since the combination B

vitamins and sugar was the perfect breeding ground for Candida.

For three years I tried various diets and remedies to rid myself of the

problem, with marginal success. They all helped but none gave permanent

results.

In July last year I began brewing KT and by September I discovered that a

very mature KT brew, just about vinegar strength, seemed to be having a

positive impact on my condition.

By Christmas my symptoms were gone. And after two weeks of dining on

traditional holiday goodies I can say with confidence, this time it's

permanent!

Yes KT contains various yeast cultures. All of them excellent for the

digestive track. Theory has it that, since these are competitors to Candida

albicans they tend to starve it out. At the same time the detoxifying nature

of KT helps rid ones system of the toxins produced by candida, insuring

these toxins don't further depress your immune system.

To be noted, however:

For the first 3-4 weeks I was more prone to colds, had a persistent raw

throat and very oily skin.

For the first 6 weeks the effects seemed to intensify my candida symptoms

and my bowels were running amuck. However, after 3 months I was cured of the

infestation and my intestines were back to normal functioning, something I

hadn't experienced in the previous 3 years.

IMHO, during the early weeks of detoxifying with KT, the proverbial week

link in a person's health chain will always show signs of stress. But if you

proceed cautiously, this irritating phase relents and health is restored.

For me this period was 3 months but, aside from candida, I had a strong

healthy body and was in excellent athletic condition.

--Len Porzio (In glorious Charlottesville, VA)

************** here is another reprint that may help ******************

>.... What I have noticed is that when I eat/drink certain

>things (coffee, apples and other fruit, carbohydrates) I swell

>up and simultaneously get dehydrated; apparently all of the

>fluid in my system tries to collect in my intestines. The next

>day I have an attack of diarrhea which leaves me feeling very

>tired and generally unpleasant - and forget getting anything

>done that day. Does this sound like what you went through?

Yes, that's exactly what I experienced, although I didn't notice being

terribly tired, perhaps because I'd been a long distance runner for 20 years

prior and I was 12 years your junior when it became a problem. At the peak

of my disease I was hitting the bathroom every hour and had little control.

Also, although it began in my lower intestines, as it got worse it seemed to

work it's way backwards up my through my organs until it got to the point

where 10 minutes after eating any carb my stomach would inflate and I would

be belching for an hour afterward.

>Stress is a very definite factor but I don't know how to deal

>with it. Maybe I am going to have to eliminate all carbohydrate

>from my diet for a while.

Agreed! I was not under stress then but for 3 years prior I had a work

relationship conflict which was unusually stressful.

>The frustrating part about this is that a very few years ago I

>found I could use a protein and fruit/vegetable (no refined

>carbs or sugar) diet and it had significant impacts on my blood

>pressure and general well being - now I cannot tolerate the same

>diet.

Consider the alternative! But if you would like ideas on a diet check out

the Atkins diet. It focuses on reduced carbs. If you make a commitment for

3 months to the diet, supplemented by as much vinegary KT as you can stand,

I guarantee you'll either have it licked or will realize control of the

situation by the end of that period.

>I am having a little problem in stockpiling any KT which has

>gone to the vinegar like stage, mostly because I am new at this

>and also because the weather keeps changing on me. I can

>definitely tell that you are right though, the more tart the

>flavor the better my digestive system seems to respond - the

>real sweet stuff seems to have the same effect as sugar (no

>surprise).

I brew 2 gallons at a time in fish bowls on top of my water heaters and

store it in a 3 gallon glass bottle I got at a local wine hobbyist shop.

You sound like you're hoping this thing will disappear by itself. Believe me

when I say you're having this experience because it's time to change your

habits for life. Yes it's going to be tough for the next few months and will

require absolute will-power on your part. But afterwards you'll be able to

go back to a reasonable well balanced diet and you'll thank God for the wake

up call.

You're objective is to starve out the Candida. Each time you slip with a

starchy or sugary food it comes back stronger and it will take that much

longer to get under control.

As the great sneaker sage once said - JUST DO IT!

**************** Post Script *********************

It's been more than 4 years since I cured my Candida problem with a

combination of KT and diet change. I'm in great shape and there is not sign

of a candida problem.

I must stress to anyone with this problem that, any form of fruit, starch or

sugar is a threat to a candida victim until the condition is brought under

control. The KT should be tart to sour just as if you were a diabetic!

Once all signs of the disease has vanished gradually work whole grains back

into the diet. If this seems acceptable to the body then other starches in

moderation, preferable as part of a balanced meal may be acceptable.

At any time if you see symptoms reappear, immediately go back to the

original starch/sugar free diet. Also avoid sugar substitutes as this makes

it much tougher to deal with the sugar cravings that accompany a severe

candida infestation.

- - Len (In Glorious Charlottesville, VA)

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Hi EveryOne,

According to list members who have used Kombucha to deal with Candida

it is best to use Kombucha that has been fermented past the sweet

stage so that most of the sugar is gone.....you can always add Stevia

to your glass of KT to give it a sweeter taste.

If your KT is very acidic you might prefer it diluted in water.

In the FILES section of the list homepage on there is a

folder called Kombucha threads and you will find a Kombucha thread on

Candida which has posts from many members talking about their use of

KT with Candida....

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

-- In kombucha tea , Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...>

wrote:

>

> In message <g9meds+h4se@...> you wrote:

>

> > Help! My son has a terrible yeast infection and I am starting to feel

> > the effects myself... My first question is: could brewing the k-tea

> > have encouraged yeast to grow in our house and cause this? Could

> > applying the tea have any benefits? I am really worried that brewing

> > this fermented product could be aiding to the problem. Please set me

> > straight!

>

> Here a short, to the point answer from Gunther and afterwards lots

> more different voices I have collected in my 'Candida' box':

>

> Q: I wonder if anyone has experience with kombucha tea and

> Candida. Any info you could pass along would be appreciated.

>

> A: There are pathogen (harmful) and apathogen (harmless) yeasts.

> > Kombucha is of the harmless kind.

>

> The Schizosacharomycodes, that is in the Kombucha culture, is a

yeast that

> and is not in the family of candida, so it can be actually

antagonistic to

> the troublesome yeast that infects so many people.

>

> Prof. Rieth, Hamburg, Germans leading expert in Mycology confirmed

me: There

> is absolutely no risk in drinking Kombucha as regards of yeast

infections

> since the Kombucha yeast are apathogen. You can rely on his judgment

that is

> based on careful research work. Prof Rieth also told me, there is very

> little knowledge of mycology (fungal diseases) even at doctors and many

> wrong allegations are made.

>

> So enjoy your Kombucha.

> Gunther

>

>

> Gunther W. , Genossensch.-Str. 10, 75217 Birkenfeld/Germany

> The Most High has created medicines out of the earth

>

> -----sep--------------------------------------------------------

>

> From: Porzio, Leonard V.

> Date: 03 Jan 96 13:16:49 EST

> Subject: Results after 4 months

>

>

> " For the first six weeks the effects seemed to intensify my candida

> symptoms and my bowels were running amuck. However, after 3

months I was

> cured of my candida infestation and my intestines are back to

normal

> functioning, something I haven't experienced in at least 3 years! "

>

> -----sep--------------------------------------------------------

>

> From: APHarlan

> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 12:52:01 -0400

> Subject: CANDIDA SHOWDOWN AT KOMBUCHA CORRAL

>

> " My personal experience has been that kombucha tea has GREATLY

alleviated

> problems with Candida, to the point that I don't even think about it

anymore

> It was not my impetus for taking it, and I was initially concerned

that it

> might worsen the condition. I make my brew somewhat vinegary, just

to burn

> up the sugar, but haven't had any reaction except loss of that wonderful

> bloated feeling with its associated discomforts. "

>

> -----sep--------------------------------------------------------

>

> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:00:36 -0500

> From: Len Porzio

> kombucha@...

> Subject: Candida

>

>

> Reprinted and modified on behalf of new list members suffering from

candida:

>

>

> For those of you that have seen this before, I apologize. But there

> still seems to be a need to get the word out:

>

> " Candida is a naturally occurring yeast which lives in the mucous

> membranes of the gastrointestinal and genitourinary tracts as

well as

> on the skin. By the time we are six months old, as many as 95

> percent of us are supporting intestinal candida colonies. When an

> overgrowth occurs, it is the result of an imbalance in the

intestinal

> flora. Antibiotics, birth control pills, pregnancy, diabetes, and

> cortisone-like drugs (including steroids) encourage yeast growth.

Also to

> blame are diets high in sugar and low in fiber. "

>

> The Yeast Syndrome

> Drs.Trowbridge and

>

> Candida infestation happened to me in 1992 as a result of a life

long

> diet high in sugar and other refined carbs. I suspect a bee-pollen

> honey mixture I was taking finally tipped the scales since the

> combination B vitamins and sugar was the perfect breeding ground for

Candida

>

>

> For three years I tried various diets and remedies to rid myself of the

> problem, with marginal success. They all helped but none gave permanent

> results.

>

> In July, 95 I began brewing Kombucha Tea (KT) and by that September I

> discovered that a very mature KT brew, just about vinegar strength,

seemed

> to be having a positive impact on my condition.

>

> By that Christmas that year my symptoms were gone. I can say with

> confidence, this time it's permanent! Once again I can eat whatever

I want

> whether or not I drink KT. But I still drink it because I like it and

> value it's health benefits in general.

>

> Yes KT contains various yeast cultures. All of them excellent for the

> digestive track. Theory has it that, since these are competitors to

> Candida albicans they tend to starve it out. At the same time the

> detoxifying nature of KT helps rid ones system of the toxins produced by

> candida, insuring these toxins don't further depress your immune system.

>

> To be noted, however:

>

> For the first 3-4 weeks I was more prone to colds, had a persistent raw

> throat and very oily skin.

>

> For the first 6 weeks the effects seemed to intensify my candida

> symptoms and my bowels were running amuck. However, after 3

months I was

> cured of the infestation and my intestines were back to normal

> functioning, something I hadn't experienced in the previous 3 years.

>

> IMHO, during the early weeks of detoxifying with KT, the proverbial week

> link in a person's health chain will always show signs of stress.

But if you

> proceed cautiously, this irritating phase relents and health is

> restored.

>

>

> For me this period was 3 months but, aside from candida, I had a strong

> healthy body and was in excellent athletic condition.

>

> Still C-free thanks to KT,

> --Len Porzio (In glorious Charlottesville, VA)

>

> -----sep--------------------------------------------------------

>

> From: LPorzio

> Subject: RE: [KT] candida

> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:29:21 -0700

>

>

> There are many testimonials by Candida suffers to the benefits of KT

in the

> archives. I wish I had my old postings handy, but suffice it to say KT

> cured me of a long bout with candida in a matter of months after

suffering

> with it for 4 years prior to drinking KT.

>

> Two things to remember when treating candida with KT. First make

sure that

> the brew is very mature - almost to the point of being vinegar but

more on

> the tart than sour side. You don't want to ingest any sugar since the

> candida just love sugar.

>

> Second expect the symptoms to get worse initially before they

improve. My

> first couple of weeks were very uncomfortable as the yeast die off

put more

> stress on my system as did the general detox effects one gets when

> beginning to use KT. You might want to gradually increase the dose

as you

> feel your body can deal with the detox.

>

> By the third week you should begin to see gradual improvement. It

took me

> about 3 months to completely rid myself of my candida problems.

I've been

> clean since 1996.

>

> - Len (In Charlottesville, VA)

>

>

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> From: atlantic1

> Subject: Re: [KT] candida

> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:31:47 -0700

>

>

> Below is a quote from Gunther 's website, the foremost authority on

> Kombucha (I wish I could converse in German as well as he does in

English):

> Worry about Candida or other yeast infections? Not so! Kombucha is a

> different kind of Yeast-Fungi. There are pathogen (harmful) and

apathogen

> (harmless) yeasts. Kombucha is of the harmless kind. Since kombucha is

> called a " mushroom " by many people, and a " fungus " by others, and

since it

> is a yeast as well as a bacterial ferment, there are those who will

> automatically warn all candida albicans victims - those with chronic

> candiasis or any other kind of yeast infections - to stay away from

Kombucha

> However, this is not right.

>

> The Schizosacharomycodes, that is in the Kombucha culture, is a

yeast that

> is not in the family of candida, so it can be actually antagonistic

to the

> troublesome yeast that infects so many people. Kombucha is likely to be

> very beneficial for the following reason. Candida albicans is a

yeast which

> competes with your bowel microflora and produces nothing in the way of

> benefit to the host organism. It occupies the body's defenses which

have to

> be mobilized to oppose it. While this is going on your immune

system can

> not effectively deal with other infections. Kombucha, on the other

hand, is

> a community of microorganisms that do have a beneficial effect on

the host,

> namely by producing glucuronic acid. The yeasts in Kombucha compete

with

> the candida yeasts and gradually replace them. They reproduce

vegitatively

> or by fission rather than by producing spores. This means that

instead of

> having an enemy inside you, you have a friend.

>

> In addition you will also have some of the organisms which will colonize

> your gut somewhat and continue their good work. Provided that your

batch is

> not contaminated with mold, there is nothing in Kombucha that can

harm you.

> It is true that certain people may have a sensitivity to it, but

that can

> be alleviated by reducing the dose. So that is about it. Nothing

mystical!

> Nothing magical! and nothing harmful.

>

> Prof. Rieth, Hamburg, Germans leading expert in Mycology confirmed

me: There

> is absolutely no risk in drinking Kombucha as regards of yeast

infections

> since the Kombucha yeast are apathogen. You can rely on his

judgment that

> is based on careful research work. There is a large amount of

scientific

> papers which proof, that there is no danger and no concern against the

> preparing of your own Kombucha beverage. Prof. Rieth told me, there

is very

> little knowledge of mycology (fungal diseases) even at doctors and many

> wrong allegations are made.

>

> The German " Bundesgesundheitsamt " (the top Public Health Office in

Germany

> like the FDA in the USA) says: " Kombucha is not injurious to health " . I

> hope that this is of value to some people who are worried by the

fear and

> anxiety spread about KT by the tabloid media in particular.

>

> http://www.kombu.de/candida.htm

>

>

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> From: Porzio, Leonard V.

> Subject: Candida

> Date: 4/03/96

>

>

> For those of you that have seen this before, I apologize. But there

still

> seems to be a need to get the word out:

>

>

> " Candida is a naturally occurring yeast which lives in the

> mucous membranes of the gastrointestinal and genitourinary

> tracts as well as on the skin. By the time we are six months

> old, as many as 95 percent of us are supporting intestinal

> candida colonies. When an overgrowth occurs, it is the result

> of an imbalance in the intestinal flora. Antibiotics, birth

> control pills, pregnancy, diabetis, and cortisone-like drugs

> (including steroids) encourage yeast growth. Also to blame are

> diets high in sugar and low in fiber. "

>

>

> The Yeast Syndrome

> Drs.Trowbridge and

>

>

> Candida infestation happened to me about 4 years ago as a result of

a life

> long diet high in sugar and other refined carbs. I suspect a bee-pollen

> honey mixture I was taking finally tipped the scales since the

combination B

> vitamins and sugar was the perfect breeding ground for Candida.

>

> For three years I tried various diets and remedies to rid myself of the

> problem, with marginal success. They all helped but none gave permanent

> results.

>

> In July last year I began brewing KT and by September I discovered

that a

> very mature KT brew, just about vinegar strength, seemed to be having a

> positive impact on my condition.

>

> By Christmas my symptoms were gone. And after two weeks of dining on

> traditional holiday goodies I can say with confidence, this time it's

> permanent!

>

> Yes KT contains various yeast cultures. All of them excellent for the

> digestive track. Theory has it that, since these are competitors to

Candida

> albicans they tend to starve it out. At the same time the

detoxifying nature

> of KT helps rid ones system of the toxins produced by candida, insuring

> these toxins don't further depress your immune system.

>

> To be noted, however:

>

> For the first 3-4 weeks I was more prone to colds, had a persistent raw

> throat and very oily skin.

>

> For the first 6 weeks the effects seemed to intensify my candida

symptoms

> and my bowels were running amuck. However, after 3 months I was

cured of the

> infestation and my intestines were back to normal functioning,

something I

> hadn't experienced in the previous 3 years.

>

> IMHO, during the early weeks of detoxifying with KT, the proverbial week

> link in a person's health chain will always show signs of stress.

But if you

> proceed cautiously, this irritating phase relents and health is

restored.

> For me this period was 3 months but, aside from candida, I had a strong

> healthy body and was in excellent athletic condition.

>

> --Len Porzio (In glorious Charlottesville, VA)

>

>

> ************** here is another reprint that may help ******************

>

>

> >.... What I have noticed is that when I eat/drink certain

> >things (coffee, apples and other fruit, carbohydrates) I swell

> >up and simultaneously get dehydrated; apparently all of the

> >fluid in my system tries to collect in my intestines. The next

> >day I have an attack of diarrhea which leaves me feeling very

> >tired and generally unpleasant - and forget getting anything

> >done that day. Does this sound like what you went through?

>

>

> Yes, that's exactly what I experienced, although I didn't notice being

> terribly tired, perhaps because I'd been a long distance runner for

20 years

> prior and I was 12 years your junior when it became a problem. At

the peak

> of my disease I was hitting the bathroom every hour and had little

control.

> Also, although it began in my lower intestines, as it got worse it

seemed to

> work it's way backwards up my through my organs until it got to the

point

> where 10 minutes after eating any carb my stomach would inflate and

I would

> be belching for an hour afterward.

>

>

> >Stress is a very definite factor but I don't know how to deal

> >with it. Maybe I am going to have to eliminate all carbohydrate

> >from my diet for a while.

>

>

> Agreed! I was not under stress then but for 3 years prior I had a work

> relationship conflict which was unusually stressful.

>

>

> >The frustrating part about this is that a very few years ago I

> >found I could use a protein and fruit/vegetable (no refined

> >carbs or sugar) diet and it had significant impacts on my blood

> >pressure and general well being - now I cannot tolerate the same

> >diet.

>

>

> Consider the alternative! But if you would like ideas on a diet

check out

> the Atkins diet. It focuses on reduced carbs. If you make a

commitment for

> 3 months to the diet, supplemented by as much vinegary KT as you can

stand,

> I guarantee you'll either have it licked or will realize control of the

> situation by the end of that period.

>

>

> >I am having a little problem in stockpiling any KT which has

> >gone to the vinegar like stage, mostly because I am new at this

> >and also because the weather keeps changing on me. I can

> >definitely tell that you are right though, the more tart the

> >flavor the better my digestive system seems to respond - the

> >real sweet stuff seems to have the same effect as sugar (no

> >surprise).

>

>

> I brew 2 gallons at a time in fish bowls on top of my water heaters and

> store it in a 3 gallon glass bottle I got at a local wine hobbyist shop.

>

> You sound like you're hoping this thing will disappear by itself.

Believe me

> when I say you're having this experience because it's time to change

your

> habits for life. Yes it's going to be tough for the next few months

and will

> require absolute will-power on your part. But afterwards you'll be

able to

> go back to a reasonable well balanced diet and you'll thank God for

the wake

> up call.

>

> You're objective is to starve out the Candida. Each time you slip with a

> starchy or sugary food it comes back stronger and it will take that much

> longer to get under control.

>

>

> As the great sneaker sage once said - JUST DO IT!

>

> **************** Post Script *********************

>

> It's been more than 4 years since I cured my Candida problem with a

> combination of KT and diet change. I'm in great shape and there is

not sign

> of a candida problem.

>

> I must stress to anyone with this problem that, any form of fruit,

starch or

> sugar is a threat to a candida victim until the condition is brought

under

> control. The KT should be tart to sour just as if you were a diabetic!

>

> Once all signs of the disease has vanished gradually work whole

grains back

> into the diet. If this seems acceptable to the body then other

starches in

> moderation, preferable as part of a balanced meal may be acceptable.

>

> At any time if you see symptoms reappear, immediately go back to the

> original starch/sugar free diet. Also avoid sugar substitutes as

this makes

> it much tougher to deal with the sugar cravings that accompany a severe

> candida infestation.

>

> - - Len (In Glorious Charlottesville, VA)

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>

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