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Sharon...

I will definetly keep you updated . I feel good about the formula...very

potent ...used fresh, organic herbs, no pesticides and am extracting the

alcohol from the formula now... I am going to be using it clinically and

personally where I can monitor its affects and then open it to the group. I

will post the results over the next Month.

Byron

Re: [Lyme-aid] Digest Number 491

>From: " melillo " <mellillo1@...>

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>Byron,

>My son who is on " drug holiday " and detoxing his system with cleanses,

>colonics, water and a vegeterian diet said he would love to be a guinea pig

>for your study. He goes back to college, hopefully, the end of August, he

>has been out almost 2 years and we feel with the Lamictal he is taking , he

>is ready to try again. ANyway, he is a fan of the empirial method of

>science so keep him in mind.

>Sharon

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Byron,

My son who is on " drug holiday " and detoxing his system with cleanses,

colonics, water and a vegeterian diet said he would love to be a guinea pig

for your study. He goes back to college, hopefully, the end of August, he

has been out almost 2 years and we feel with the Lamictal he is taking , he

is ready to try again. ANyway, he is a fan of the empirial method of

science so keep him in mind.

Sharon

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Hi ,

I've been seeing Dr. ine Filipek who is a Neurologist and known Expert in

Autism. She is out of UCI Medical Center in Orange County. 101 City Drive,

Orange. Telephone # 714-456-7043 or 714-456-8942. Good Luck. She's very

good and will have a whole series of work ups done.

(mom to Bill 13 DS/ASD)

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,

This is the fight I had with the Behavior Specialist who insisted that

knows exactly what he's doing and has everyone fooled. When he was diagnosed

with Autism, I told the guy " Had you fooled too huh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " What a

jerk he was. This was the guy who told us he NO sensory issues either as he

freaked out when the school bells rang.

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Margaret,

My prayers are with you. My step son had juvenile diabetes and it's not fun.

There has been a lot of medical progress with diabetes though and there are

alot of new methods that make it easier to take injections and test blood.

There coming out with a stickless way soon. There is also the insulin pump

that only needs to be changed every three days to avoid taking shots every

day. There are alot of new options, and new things coming out every year.

Good luck

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Prayers and hugs to all who have lost loved ones recently. I haven't been as

active lately, but think of everyone and hope memories of good times will

help you get through these sad times.

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Margeret,

My prayers are with you. My friend has diabettes, and I found out that my

teacher is diabettic. I know a little about diabettes if you need any

information or whatever you need to talk about. . .

>

>Margaret,

>

>My prayers are with you. My step son had juvenile diabetes and it's not

>fun.

> There has been a lot of medical progress with diabetes though and there

>are

>alot of new methods that make it easier to take injections and test blood.

>There coming out with a stickless way soon. There is also the insulin pump

>that only needs to be changed every three days to avoid taking shots every

>day. There are alot of new options, and new things coming out every year.

>Good luck

>

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Thanks for the touching words. I'm been a little bit better over the loss

of my grandpa. But you just made my day even better.

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Hi Diane,

the picture link worked, thanks! What a beautiful spot for a pumpkin patch.

Looks just like the farm we go to (are you in CT?)

Thanks for sharing!

love debbi mom to Logan (6) Eli (DS) and Milo (4)

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,

I'm thinking of starting enzymes for my 23 month old son. Can you please

send me the files that i will need to know proper dosing and what each

enzyme breaks down. Also i would be interested in the magnesium, Epsom

salts and if you have a file on taurine. My son does get sandy stools at

times and usually his epilepsy acts up at the same time.

> [ ] Digest Number 491

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RBD and expeller pressed co are totally different from each other. RBD uses

chemical to remove color, taste and odor. Expeller just sort uses high heat

400F on copra to get the oil out. I don't believe they use chemicals.

Re: Digest Number 489

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:41:21 +1100

RBD oil oten goes through a long process to get to the mills where it is

produced into copra, I have seen photos of copra in Fiji out in the hot and

humid tropical air, covered in mould. This is part of the reason it has to

be Refined, Bleached and Deoderized. If you saw it in this form you would

think twice before eating it. Below is a description of the copra problem

from www.kokonutpacific.com.au. It not only describes what copra goes

through, but the affect it has had on Island communities.

The copra problem

Conventional coconut oil comes from dried coconut flesh, called copra. Copra

is dried in a wood-fuelled kiln, or in the sun, over a period of a few days.

It is time-consuming, dirty, lonely, arduous, fuel-intensive and low-paying

work. Many farmers consider it a form of slavery.

Copra is bulked up at an export port and shipped to a large industrial oil

mill - often in Europe or Asia. Unhygienic drying, humid tropical

conditions, bulk shipping and long distances, result in lengthy delays and

the growth of moulds on the copra. Sometimes this leads to aflatoxin

contamination.

Copra oil extraction requires large-scale, high-pressure, expensive,

energy-intensive equipment. Unhygienic copra means that the resultant oil is

normally of low quality with a Free Fatty Acid (FFA) level of 3% or more.

(FFA is one measure of rancidity of oil).

Thus copra oil requires refining, bleaching and deodorising (RBD) to create

a commercially acceptable product. The refining process uses hydrochloric

acid, solvents and steam to strip out the contamination. Some residual

solvents remain in the oil. The process also removes the natural volatiles

and anti-oxidants that give pure coconut oil its unique flavour and aroma.

The total process from farm to refined oil can take many months. The

residual copra-meal is only suitable as animal feed but, even here, care is

required because it can be contaminated with carcinogenic aflatoxins.

The tropical world has over one billion coconut palms, producing over 50

billion coconuts each year. And yet, because of the low income earned on the

world market from coconut products, many coconut groves are run down, with

nuts and old trees lying where they fall, encouraging plant disease and

insect pests.

With fluctuating copra prices, farmers only harvest their nuts when prices

are high or when they are in desperate need of cash. For many remote islands

with plenty of coconuts, copra is still a risky venture because of the

infrequency of shipping services

Something to think about,

Ian

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Diane

I am a little confused about what you are trying to say here. I had a look

at the T.T site. What they are selling is Expeller Oil and is not the same

thing that is generally referred to as RBD oil produced from Copra. They

also clarify the difference between RBD oil and their Expeller Oil on their

site.

Ian

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Message: 11

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:41:33 -0500

From: " Free Minded " <freeminded52@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 489

Ian and Martha,

Please check the Tropical Traditions site. You will not say that anymore. I

agree that some are not the best, but this one taste, look so good. The

best I have had and or course Expeller Processed Coconot Oil.

Diane

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Ian & Martha Gray " <imgray@...>

Reply-Coconut Oil

<Coconut Oil >

Subject: Re: Digest Number 489

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:41:21 +1100

RBD oil oten goes through a long process to get to the mills where it is

produced into copra, I have seen photos of copra in Fiji out in the hot and

humid tropical air, covered in mould. This is part of the reason it has to

be Refined, Bleached and Deoderized. If you saw it in this form you would

think twice before eating it. Below is a description of the copra problem

from www.kokonutpacific.com.au. It not only describes what copra goes

through, but the affect it has had on Island communities.

The copra problem

Conventional coconut oil comes from dried coconut flesh, called copra. Copra

is dried in a wood-fuelled kiln, or in the sun, over a period of a few days.

It is time-consuming, dirty, lonely, arduous, fuel-intensive and low-paying

work. Many farmers consider it a form of slavery.

Copra is bulked up at an export port and shipped to a large industrial oil

mill - often in Europe or Asia. Unhygienic drying, humid tropical

conditions, bulk shipping and long distances, result in lengthy delays and

the growth of moulds on the copra. Sometimes this leads to aflatoxin

contamination.

Copra oil extraction requires large-scale, high-pressure, expensive,

energy-intensive equipment. Unhygienic copra means that the resultant oil is

normally of low quality with a Free Fatty Acid (FFA) level of 3% or more.

(FFA is one measure of rancidity of oil).

Thus copra oil requires refining, bleaching and deodorising (RBD) to create

a commercially acceptable product. The refining process uses hydrochloric

acid, solvents and steam to strip out the contamination. Some residual

solvents remain in the oil. The process also removes the natural volatiles

and anti-oxidants that give pure coconut oil its unique flavour and aroma.

The total process from farm to refined oil can take many months. The

residual copra-meal is only suitable as animal feed but, even here, care is

required because it can be contaminated with carcinogenic aflatoxins.

The tropical world has over one billion coconut palms, producing over 50

billion coconuts each year. And yet, because of the low income earned on the

world market from coconut products, many coconut groves are run down, with

nuts and old trees lying where they fall, encouraging plant disease and

insect pests.

With fluctuating copra prices, farmers only harvest their nuts when prices

are high or when they are in desperate need of cash. For many remote islands

with plenty of coconuts, copra is still a risky venture because of the

infrequency of shipping services

Something to think about,

Ian

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Sorry Ian,

I thought people were mixing this up as being the same. There is a way to

get non smelling and non tasting coconut oil and with the Expeller one we

have it. I just wanted to let others know.

Diane

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From: " Ian & Martha Gray " <imgray@...>

Reply-Coconut Oil

<Coconut Oil >

Subject: Re: Digest Number 491

Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 05:41:02 +1100

Diane

I am a little confused about what you are trying to say here. I had a look

at the T.T site. What they are selling is Expeller Oil and is not the same

thing that is generally referred to as RBD oil produced from Copra. They

also clarify the difference between RBD oil and their Expeller Oil on their

site.

Ian

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Message: 11

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:41:33 -0500

From: " Free Minded " <freeminded52@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 489

Ian and Martha,

Please check the Tropical Traditions site. You will not say that anymore. I

agree that some are not the best, but this one taste, look so good. The

best I have had and or course Expeller Processed Coconot Oil.

Diane

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Ian & Martha Gray " <imgray@...>

Reply-Coconut Oil

<Coconut Oil >

Subject: Re: Digest Number 489

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:41:21 +1100

RBD oil oten goes through a long process to get to the mills where it is

produced into copra, I have seen photos of copra in Fiji out in the hot and

humid tropical air, covered in mould. This is part of the reason it has to

be Refined, Bleached and Deoderized. If you saw it in this form you would

think twice before eating it. Below is a description of the copra problem

from www.kokonutpacific.com.au. It not only describes what copra goes

through, but the affect it has had on Island communities.

The copra problem

Conventional coconut oil comes from dried coconut flesh, called copra. Copra

is dried in a wood-fuelled kiln, or in the sun, over a period of a few days.

It is time-consuming, dirty, lonely, arduous, fuel-intensive and low-paying

work. Many farmers consider it a form of slavery.

Copra is bulked up at an export port and shipped to a large industrial oil

mill - often in Europe or Asia. Unhygienic drying, humid tropical

conditions, bulk shipping and long distances, result in lengthy delays and

the growth of moulds on the copra. Sometimes this leads to aflatoxin

contamination.

Copra oil extraction requires large-scale, high-pressure, expensive,

energy-intensive equipment. Unhygienic copra means that the resultant oil is

normally of low quality with a Free Fatty Acid (FFA) level of 3% or more.

(FFA is one measure of rancidity of oil).

Thus copra oil requires refining, bleaching and deodorising (RBD) to create

a commercially acceptable product. The refining process uses hydrochloric

acid, solvents and steam to strip out the contamination. Some residual

solvents remain in the oil. The process also removes the natural volatiles

and anti-oxidants that give pure coconut oil its unique flavour and aroma.

The total process from farm to refined oil can take many months. The

residual copra-meal is only suitable as animal feed but, even here, care is

required because it can be contaminated with carcinogenic aflatoxins.

The tropical world has over one billion coconut palms, producing over 50

billion coconuts each year. And yet, because of the low income earned on the

world market from coconut products, many coconut groves are run down, with

nuts and old trees lying where they fall, encouraging plant disease and

insect pests.

With fluctuating copra prices, farmers only harvest their nuts when prices

are high or when they are in desperate need of cash. For many remote islands

with plenty of coconuts, copra is still a risky venture because of the

infrequency of shipping services

Something to think about,

Ian

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Thanks, Diane.

I wasn't aware that TT expeller pressed oil was free of smell and

taste.

-Patty

> Sorry Ian,

>

> I thought people were mixing this up as being the same. There is a

way to

> get non smelling and non tasting coconut oil and with the Expeller

one we

> have it. I just wanted to let others know.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

>

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Hello group--I've been quietly watching and monitoring messages since

meeting Will at the Slow Foods Benefit for Shephard's Choice last winter.

Occasional messages about fish prompt me to bump it to the next level, so

I'm writing to the group. Our website has been posted on the trad. foods

site since January, I think.

We offer the freshest fish available, and do it every week year round.

Many of you prob. have seen our products at numerous local coops. Corporate

buying policies have nixed us from outlets at Lunds and Byerlys where we

were well represented for 15 years.

I'm not sure the best way to interface with the group and get products

to you, but would love to get something going -- esp. after the vicious kick

from Lund Food Holdings. We catch and process fish Monday and Thursdays,

for delivery into town Tues. and Fri. each week. Except holidays. We do

fresh dressed, filleted, and smoked Rainbow Trout, and also smoke wild

salmon. We don't do a retail route, as that'd be impossible, but have a low

minimum (10#, 15 to outlying areas) in case people can put together

collective orders, or work out a drop site for several members.

Our prices are $4 for dressed whole fish; $5 for head and tail on

filets; $5.60 for headless trimmed fillets; $7.35 for whole smoked (!!

recommended); and $8.95 for smokedheadless filets. Smoked salmon is $10.

We are also open Weds and weekends for fishing, picnicing and to purchase

fresh fish. Check out our website at www.starprairietrout.com! Thanks, &

let me know ideas about distribution.

Mac & Marcy Graham

Star Prairie Trout Farm

400 Hill Ave

Star Prairie, WI 54026

(715) 248-3633

Sorry, !

>

>

> Thanks for the correction, .

>

> , I'm sorry, I was thinking " " and typed " " ! I'M

> BLUSHING! I hope you'll forgive me. I'm still savoring the kraut

> and kim chee you make however. Rebekah took one quart to

> work with her last week and by Wednesday it was all gone!

> She's hooked. It's the finely ground one with the carrots. Spicy

> hot and very good.

>

> All the best to you and Magical Hands Man KENT!

>

> Will

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i want to thank the person who had idea of putting

mushrooms in blender and making a cream for the body.

it works miracles to tighten the skin for facial mask

and body mask, the legs, thighs especially, flabby

arms, anyone know what i mean, to have smoother feet.

etc...this is a great idea and it works, want more

info of how i do it, let me know. contact me. i'll

call, i have plenty long distance would love to talk

about kt.

nat

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Perfectionism:

Well let's call it a survey. My answer is yes, at least that's what my boss tells me. EVERYTHING in my house is organized: Music CDs in alphabetical order (but doesn't everyone do this?) but I have 3 walk in closets, each organized their own special way: One for biz clothes, One for Shirts, Summer PJs and Lingerie (yes, I hang all my panties and bras), the other for Shorts/Skorts/Skirts, Slacks, Winter PJs, and work our cothes. Then of course each category is organized by style, then each style organized by color (ROY G. BV... the rainbow). I have 6 sock drawers again organized by color and style. Right now I'm working so much that my coffee table is covered in clutter as is my dining table. Makes me NUTS!

Recently some of the guys at work were giving me a problem for not having projects done (Demanding Job, other companies hire a MINIMUM of 3 full time people to do what I do). I said look, you know I don't have time! I'm one person and I can't clone myself. You will always be able to tell my work load by the cleanliness of my office. I still haven't unpacked from our move 18 months ago. You all know it drives me crazy and I like stuff in it's place, so obviously I don't have enough time. I do believe the next time they harrass me, I'll have to make a reference to Monk (yes, love that show!).

While all PWCs seem to have FMS, I don't know how many of you have CFIDS, but one thing is for sure, this is not an illness for the meek. You have to be one heck of fighter and very disciplined to get well and stay well. The one thing that really PISSES me off is that I have this illness. Hear me out, this isn't about narcisim. We all know there are people that really are just lazy and have no drive. There are people living off family/welfare/etc. by choice, not necessity. I truly understand there are a lot of different reasons for this and many times these people are victims, so I want to show them some respect and acknowledge that some people are truly victims of circumstance, but as for the others who wouldn't work no matter what opportunities they were given, they are proof life isn't fair. Why on earth can't they be cursed with this friggin illness? They don't want to do anything anyway. I'm so driven I have to force myself to leave work, force myself to go to bed, force myself to try to just sit and relax in front of the TV without logging into the office from my laptop to do more work. I guess my point is that for the Perfectionist, having CFIDS is about the closest thing to hell on earth I can imagine (next to flying Palmetto Bugs... a phobia I'm trying to overcome) I would think it's the same for any Perfectionist who has any illness that it literally disabling.

Well I guess the silver lining is that I really thinkj it takes a perfectionist to beat this thing. There are so many things we HAVE to do vs. others who just SHOULD do, e.g. Alkaline Diets, Plenty of Sun, Exercise, Rest... you know... the work to live a healthy life, while everyone around us can abuse the heck out of their bodies and still be able to get out of bed every morning. That said, I'm not so sure that non-perfectionists participate as much in taking responsibility for their own health.... so it's probably less likely they'll be doing all the online work like others. Some people just accept it and sit there and wait for the " magic pill " so I think it's less likely they'll ever network with others, so we're not likely to hear from them... making this little poll a bit skewed.

Okay, so I'll never see everyone's reply (no time), but I bet it will be interesting to see all the other Monks out there and everyone's quirky storieds! HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! Dawn

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From: veganbikerbabe@... <veganbikerbabe@...>Subject: Re: Digest Number 491dominie Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 9:18 AM

Perfectionism: Well let's call it a survey. My answer is yes, at least that's what my boss tells me. EVERYTHING in my house is organized: Music CDs in alphabetical order (but doesn't everyone do this?) but I have 3 walk in closets, each organized their own special way: One for biz clothes, One for Shirts, Summer PJs and Lingerie (yes, I hang all my panties and bras), the other for Shorts/Skorts/ Skirts, Slacks, Winter PJs, and work our cothes. Then of course each category is organized by style, then each style organized by color (ROY G. BV... the rainbow). I have 6 sock drawers again organized by color and style. Right now I'm working so much that my coffee table is covered in clutter as is my dining table. Makes me NUTS! Recently some of the guys at work were giving me a problem for not having projects done (Demanding Job, other companies hire a MINIMUM of 3 full time people to do what I do). I said look, you know I

don't have time! I'm one person and I can't clone myself. You will always be able to tell my work load by the cleanliness of my office. I still haven't unpacked from our move 18 months ago. You all know it drives me crazy and I like stuff in it's place, so obviously I don't have enough time. I do believe the next time they harrass me, I'll have to make a reference to Monk (yes, love that show!). While all PWCs seem to have FMS, I don't know how many of you have CFIDS, but one thing is for sure, this is not an illness for the meek. You have to be one heck of fighter and very disciplined to get well and stay well. The one thing that really PISSES me off is that I have this illness. Hear me out, this isn't about narcisim. We all know there are people that really are just lazy and have no drive. There are people living off family/welfare/ etc. by choice, not necessity. I truly understand there are a lot of different reasons for this and many times

these people are victims, so I want to show them some respect and acknowledge that some people are truly victims of circumstance, but as for the others who wouldn't work no matter what opportunities they were given, they are proof life isn't fair. Why on earth can't they be cursed with this friggin illness? They don't want to do anything anyway. I'm so driven I have to force myself to leave work, force myself to go to bed, force myself to try to just sit and relax in front of the TV without logging into the office from my laptop to do more work. I guess my point is that for the Perfectionist, having CFIDS is about the closest thing to hell on earth I can imagine (next to flying Palmetto Bugs... a phobia I'm trying to overcome) I would think it's the same for any Perfectionist who has any illness that it literally disabling. Well I guess the silver lining is that I really thinkj it takes a perfectionist to beat this thing. There are so many

things we HAVE to do vs. others who just SHOULD do, e.g. Alkaline Diets, Plenty of Sun, Exercise, Rest... you know... the work to live a healthy life, while everyone around us can abuse the heck out of their bodies and still be able to get out of bed every morning. That said, I'm not so sure that non-perfectionists participate as much in taking responsibility for their own health.... so it's probably less likely they'll be doing all the online work like others. Some people just accept it and sit there and wait for the "magic pill" so I think it's less likely they'll ever network with others, so we're not likely to hear from them... making this little poll a bit skewed. Okay, so I'll never see everyone's reply (no time), but I bet it will be interesting to see all the other Monks out there and everyone's quirky storieds! HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! Dawn

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