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> If any of you understand the balancing of these two

> minerals I would appreciate any help to end this painful problem.

Balance is important, but adequacy of amounts is more important.

You're generally better off with a slightly unbalanced total mineral

profile that provides plenty of each of the minerals than you are

with inadequate minerals that are in perfect balance. The most

significant problem is that if one mineral is deficient or marginal,

an imbalance can make the deficiency worse.

As for magnesium:calcium ratios, a low mag:cal ratio is much more

dangerous than a low cal:mag ratio is. You should be completely safe

up to and even slightly beyond a 1:1 ratio. Magnesium is a tricky

thing to get from modern foods...even without diabetes. Once you

throw diabetes into the picture, it becomes extremely difficult.

Good luck!

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Thank you so much for the info on balancing the cal/mag.

Last night my husband took 4 tabs of cal/mag just befroe retiring and

slept through the night without a twing. I will get him some

additional magnesium today and he can try it tonight instead of the

cal/mag combo. We will be getting some Azomite soon and perhaps this

will help too. I am also giving him soaked and low temp dried almonds

and hazelnuts. They are supposed to be high in magnesium, but of

course I would think the level of magnesium in the soil where they

were grown would make a difference, but it is worth a shot to try

them.

Thanks again ,

Sheila

In @y..., " skroyer " <scott@k...> wrote:

> > If any of you understand the balancing of these two

> > minerals I would appreciate any help to end this painful problem.

>

> Balance is important, but adequacy of amounts is more important.

> You're generally better off with a slightly unbalanced total

mineral

> profile that provides plenty of each of the minerals than you are

> with inadequate minerals that are in perfect balance. The most

> significant problem is that if one mineral is deficient or

marginal,

> an imbalance can make the deficiency worse.

>

> As for magnesium:calcium ratios, a low mag:cal ratio is much more

> dangerous than a low cal:mag ratio is. You should be completely

safe

> up to and even slightly beyond a 1:1 ratio. Magnesium is a tricky

> thing to get from modern foods...even without diabetes. Once you

> throw diabetes into the picture, it becomes extremely difficult.

>

> Good luck!

>

>

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At 05:28 PM 5/23/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>As for magnesium:calcium ratios, a low mag:cal ratio is much more

>dangerous than a low cal:mag ratio is. You should be completely safe

>up to and even slightly beyond a 1:1 ratio. Magnesium is a tricky

>thing to get from modern foods...even without diabetes. Once you

>throw diabetes into the picture, it becomes extremely difficult.

I don't dislike supplements (good foods are better, but, if you have

problems, supplements can work!). I take 3 Calmax a day, morning,

afternoon, evening, and there's a mix of calcium and magnesium, and it got

rid of the cramps. I've heard Twinlabs with Boron is even better. I do bone

broths etc. too. Calcium and Magnesium would seem to be minerals that are

hard to overdose on, they bind to so many foods and get excreted so easily.

(things like " calcium deposits " are not, to my knowledge, caused by too

much calcium, rather by other metabolism problems).

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

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----- Are you getting any leg cramps or other symptems of nutrient

defficiency?----

Leg cramps can be due to a nutritional deficiency...but remember the

GB meridian also runs along the lateral side of the legs on both

sides. Legs cramps could also be associated with what is going on

with the gallbladder.

Christa

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  • 1 year later...

Husband has these at times, very bad. He does not have RA. He takes a quinine tablet which he has to get by prescription. Of course you need to ask your doctor if this would be o.k. in your individual case.

Peggy

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in case i forgot to tell you, i , too, had leg cramps really bad for years 'till i started taking 5 mg of quinine a month. if i forget to take it my legs remind me!

love.. grany lee----- Original Message -----

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Husband has these at times, very bad. He does not have RA. He takes a quinine tablet which he has to get by prescription. Of course you need to ask your doctor if this would be o.k. in your individual case.

Peggy

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On prednisone leg and muscle cramps can be caused by low potassium. I would try

drinking some job or eating oranges or bananas if you are not allergic.

----- Original Message -----

From: uca79iii

Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 5:27 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Leg Cramps

>

> I have a question. I am getting really bad leg cramps, but they are

> also happening in my arms. I am wondering if anyone else has had this

> happen on Xolair? Or maybe Pred? I had to take a course of Pred as we

> just got back from a trip to Vegas/Idaho where I got sick with in days

> of being down there. I am from Alaska, so I think it was a combo of

> the hot/cold extremes and all of the smoking. (not me but in the

> casino's) and in Idaho all of the hay they were cutting, I am hoping

> that is not the case as were are moving there next summer.

>

> Anyway, I get my third set of shots Wed. Hopefully the dr will fix my

> cough as the pred did not fix it.

>

> Thanks

> Dana

I have them too! The doctor says that they are from Lipitor. " statin "

drugs are notorious for muscle problems. He cut down my dose and they

have mostly subsided.

He also said that leg crams were a side effect of Prednisone.

Thanks to xolair, I rarely ever have to take that evil stuff anymore.

Doug

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Muscle cramps are a known side effect of Lipitor, a medicine that can cause

muscle breakdown and renal failure. Anyone taking this medicine should get blood

tests every 3-6 months to make sure it isn't harming your liver, and if you are

having muscle aches, tell your doctor and he should check a CPK (creatinine

phosphokinase) level to be sure you aren't having muscle breakdown. This is a

potentially serious condition.

Carol

 

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I get leg cramps, hand cramps, feet cramps, eye lid cramps, etc, etc,

from prednisone. It's interesting that Doug says he gets them from

Lipitor as I am also on Lipitor. Some days my body seems like it is

taking turns with numerous areas of cramping, other times I can go for

a couple of days without cramping. I'm hoping Xolair will allow you to

get off prednisone, then everything will..... I was going to say go

back to normal, but I realized " Normal " for most of us would put

others on the floor, LOL!

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I have always had cramps with Advair, more so when I use the 500mg.

They are worse if I have to take Pred., watch out taking large doses

of calcium or vit c these can cause renal stones. I have not known

Xoalir to cause cramps.

Happy breathing

Sandy

>

> I have a question. I am getting really bad leg cramps, but they

are

> also happening in my arms. I am wondering if anyone else has had

this

> happen on Xolair? Or maybe Pred? I had to take a course of Pred

as we

> just got back from a trip to Vegas/Idaho where I got sick with in

days

> of being down there. I am from Alaska, so I think it was a combo

of

> the hot/cold extremes and all of the smoking. (not me but in the

> casino's) and in Idaho all of the hay they were cutting, I am

hoping

> that is not the case as were are moving there next summer.

>

> Anyway, I get my third set of shots Wed. Hopefully the dr will fix

my

> cough as the pred did not fix it.

>

> Thanks

> Dana

>

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