Re: Illegal Time Out rooms

[Guest guest]

I must have missed the original post. Could someone explain this to

me? It seems that if a child is being disruptive in a classroom and

cannot be calmed (as sometimes happens with autistic kids) why would

removing them from the classroom until they can calm down be a bad

thing - so long as it is supervised. Under these circumstances I

wouldn't object if my son were put in one.

Obviously, I'm missing something if this is considered illegal.

We have laws in Canada that prohibit even priests being alone with

parishioners of the of opposite sex so there is no liability. There

are similar laws governing counsellors and social workers. Perhaps,

this is part of the issue?

Darlene

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> Listmembers,

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> I originally posted the question regarding Time Out Rooms (which are

> highly illegal), Illegal use of restraint, abuse, etc. in our kids

> schools across the nation as it was suggested by a staffer that's part

> of the Transitional team for our new Presidential Admin. that it would

> help to get a proposal for a Bill/ACT on Obama's desk in late Jan. .

[Guest guest]

Here is the original post ..

I know that when I originally asked a few weeks ago about these kind

of injustices towards our children it was hard for many to respond as

it brought back old memories. It was easy for the child that is no

longer here to respond - he ended his life. This is not something I

'want to' post about or wanted to even look at. After receiving

several hundred responses from parents about this going on at their

schools ( I have them and they keep pouring in ), I then added

Mandatory Jail Sentences for those that put our children into this

kind of Jeopardy into the Autism Reform Act of 2009. I'm sure most

all of you have seen the CNN reports :

http://www.cnn. com/2008/ US/12/17/ seclusion. rooms/index. html

MAKE THIS PUNISHABLE - Prison Sentence Automatic for exposing our kids

to this .. is within the Autism Reform ACT of 2009.

http://www.change. org/ideas/ view/accept_ and_sign_ the_autism_

reform_act_ of_2009

I don't even want to begin going into this as it brings back bad

memories for many - but this is TODAY's TRUTH. It was the Truth the

day I originally asked about Illegal Time Out across the ,

and it will still be the truth tomorrow unless we do something about

this as a nation. WE CAN. This is America - we have the ability to

vote. As long as we continue to turn our heads at the 'hard

questions' they will revisit us just as this did. To the 100's of

parents that responded offlist and to the 1000's that did on, Thank

you for being bold enough to tell me what, when, and where - now maybe

CNN can use some of this information and uncover some of this. Either

way it will revisit us... So please vote to END this for once and for

All - NO MORE DEBATE:

http://www.change. org/ideas/ view/accept_ and_sign_ the_autism_

reform_act_ of_2009

Now those that questioned my intent know it was not for my self

satisfaction or to do a morbid study. It's because I personally have

closed down dozens of these rooms in 5 diff. states.. what about the

other 45 ? LETS MAKE IT A CRIME to put these kids in these tortuous

rooms. Time Out can be used with a room divider and a chair. What

you see in that CNN Report is exactly what I saw when I shut them

down, and exactly what I wanted to find out about when I asked about

them.... For at least one child it is too late.. it doesn't have to be

too late for the next one.

With all Sincerity,

E. , Sr. The Office of Advocacy for Autistic Childre

Please go and register, comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do

the same

(Add this link to your email sig. for the next 5 weeks if you

can.....for the kids)

http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accept_and_sign_the_autism_reform_act_of_2009

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> > Listmembers,

> >

> > I originally posted the question regarding Time Out Rooms (which are

> > highly illegal), Illegal use of restraint, abuse, etc. in our kids

> > schools across the nation as it was suggested by a staffer that's part

> > of the Transitional team for our new Presidential Admin. that it would

> > help to get a proposal for a Bill/ACT on Obama's desk in late Jan. .

>

[Guest guest]

I personally would not allow my son to attend a school with a time out

room, Sensory Rooms where children can calm down and are MONITORED

are quite legal.. locking a child into a room with paper over the

windows, no ventilation, and nobody watching leads to what CNN just

reported 2 days ago - the possiblity and reality of DEATH.

And this isn't the first time at all.

In America we have a thing called a BIP.. A behavior Intervention

plan..and it must be approved by the parents. It has to have the

least restrictive type of supports when the child starts to get upset.

It can't be " oh the child is making too much noise and is disruptive

so were going to put him in...whatever..a Cell as we've seen on TV and

as reported to me by multiple parents. It's not about the opposite

sex being in there with them..it's about NOBODY watching while

children pull their hair out, bite at themselves, and sometimes use

something the teacher gave the to hang themselves.

Now.. I don't think there is anything missing from this picture.

Thank you,

E. , Sr.

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> > Listmembers,

> >

> > I originally posted the question regarding Time Out Rooms (which are

> > highly illegal), Illegal use of restraint, abuse, etc. in our kids

> > schools across the nation as it was suggested by a staffer that's part

> > of the Transitional team for our new Presidential Admin. that it would

> > help to get a proposal for a Bill/ACT on Obama's desk in late Jan. .

>