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<< Too bad we can't clone him.>>

This certainly is unfortunate.

<<The reason I'm not doing chelation, for the moment anyway, is because

homeopathy seems to be improving her health, and I'm too afraid of rocking

the boat. >>

This both makes sense and can be a trap. Lots of parents continue on with

marginally effective therapies that never get their kids well. But then

other people hurt themselves or their kids jumping from therapy to therapy.

I guess you get to be one of those people who watch the list carefully for a

few months to decide if the added progress people report from chelation

really does justify the risk of the actual side effects or adverse reactions

reported on the list. Not everyone has to do things the same way at the same

time.

Andy Cutler

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I'm probably going to create hate and discontent with what I'm going

to say, but it is my opinion.

I believe that most homeopathic treatments are bogus. I fail to find

any sound science to support the claims and I can't find a

relationship to the pathophysiology for what they are trying to treat.

Only my opinion.

Jay

> Has anyone tried homeopathy for RA?

>

> Sierra

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I tend to agree with you Jay. Of course this is only my opinion as well.

Carla

----- Original Message -----

From: " Jay Bishop " <jbirdak@...>

<Rheumatoid Arthritis >

Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 2:42 AM

Subject: Re: homeopathy

> I'm probably going to create hate and discontent with what I'm going

> to say, but it is my opinion.

>

> I believe that most homeopathic treatments are bogus. I fail to find

> any sound science to support the claims and I can't find a

> relationship to the pathophysiology for what they are trying to treat.

>

> Only my opinion.

>

> Jay

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> > Has anyone tried homeopathy for RA?

> >

> > Sierra

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I agree there, Jay. Expectations have a whole lot to do with the kind of pain one experiences, and "studies" using homeopathic methods are primarily anecdotal, with far too many variables that are uncontrolled. Certainly, anything which makes you healthier, like dietary change, will make you feel better, but it won't *cure* RA. When I was first diagnosed, I did a lot of reading, and there are a number of books out there by people who were "cured" by using alternative methods. Of course none of these people ever seemed to have a firm diagnosis of RA, and most of them had some very bizarre symptoms which could easily have been psychological.

----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Bishop

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 2:42 AM

Subject: Re: homeopathy

I'm probably going to create hate and discontent with what I'm going to say, but it is my opinion.I believe that most homeopathic treatments are bogus. I fail to find any sound science to support the claims and I can't find a relationship to the pathophysiology for what they are trying to treat.Only my opinion.Jay> Has anyone tried homeopathy for RA?> > Sierra

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> I'm probably going to create hate and discontent with what I'm

going

> to say, but it is my opinion.

>

> I believe that most homeopathic treatments are bogus.

No hate or discontent, Jay. I appreciate your honest opinion. I've

tried several remedies in the past for different things, and

nothing's had any effect. (In two cases, I consulted well-established

practitioners, one an M.D.) Homeopathy came to mind recently while

reading Dr. Weil's book: " Spontaneous Healing " . He says

it's " worth a try " for RA. I posted my question on another RA site

and got some good info. about studies that were conducted showing

that homeopathy does not help RA.

I keep thinking there must be something to it, because a number of

people I respect swear by it and it is so pervasive.

Sierra

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Gosh, Gloria....if I saw results I would have stuck with it, but it was several months and none. Your friend was getting results but so conditioned to the medical route......gosh....

Yes, he was actually a boyfriend of mine and the first time he woke me up in the middle of the night having of one of these seizures, I was terrified. We found an old, old homeopathic physician (probably retired by now...or dead!), and he went to him. No physical, or any of that...just asked him a bunch of questions and he came home with these pills. And they worked! But, the fear of more seizures was too scary for him to take and he went the medical route. When he pointed out to me that he hadn't had any seizures while on the homeopathic remedy I then began to think...Hmmmm...that guy must really know his stuff. The seizure pattern was very strange...once a month in his sleep and ALWAYS on the full moon.

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I SWEAR by Coffea Cruda 30c, for the middle of the night mind talk

that won't go away.

When my dog had bad heart problems I used to give her Craetagus 30x and Cactus Grande 30x every day. They are homeopathic remedies very specific for heart problems. The vet said he didn't know what I was giving her, but to keep it up because she was hanging in there years longer than their original prognosis.

Where do you buy your homeopathic remedies? They have some of the more common ones in health food stores, but I sometimes need ones that you basically have to get from a homeopathic pharmacy.

Gloria

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HOmeopaths are a great way to cure SINGLE problems, immediately, mosty.

I SWEAR by Coffea Cruda 30c, for the middle of the night mind talk

that won't go away. 4-6 little tiny balls, melting in your mouth, and

wa-la.....it's morning!

Also, Rhus tox..... for poison oak. Great stuff.

Lynn

On 7/18/05, MorningGlory113@... <MorningGlory113@...> wrote:

> When the correct remedy is found, the results are nothing short of

> miraculous.

>

> I agree! I've seen amazing homeopathic cures, especially in my animals.

> Chronic eye infections clearing up in a matter of hours, bad upper

> respiratory gone by the next day, etc.. The precise remedy is the key.

>

> Gloria

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Coffea Cruda and Rhus tox I get in my local health food store. Then

again, I live in the Santa Cruz area of CA, and they abound aplenty!

I use a homeopath on my dog for cataracts. That I get from an online

place called Hannah's Herbs. They do have a storefront, but not in my

area. Boulder, CO. Blue, my dog, has a genetic thing with his eyes.

I had one removed, but refuse to remove the other one. He's been on a

cataract homeopath for over a year now, and I do believe that it helps

him. Depends on what vet you talk to. If I talk to my Mountain Vet,

he says that Blue is doing great. If I go into the doc that took out

his other eye, she would say to take the other one out, or put him

down. Not an option.

http://www.hannasherbshop.com/

Best wishes!!

Lynn

in Ca.

On 7/18/05, MorningGlory113@... <MorningGlory113@...> wrote:

> I SWEAR by Coffea Cruda 30c, for the middle of the night mind talk

> that won't go away.

>

> When my dog had bad heart problems I used to give her Craetagus 30x and

> Cactus Grande 30x every day. They are homeopathic remedies very specific for

> heart problems. The vet said he didn't know what I was giving her, but to

> keep it up because she was hanging in there years longer than their original

> prognosis.

> Where do you buy your homeopathic remedies? They have some of the more

> common ones in health food stores, but I sometimes need ones that you

> basically have to get from a homeopathic pharmacy.

> Gloria

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An eyewash of Dusty is supposed to work well on cataracts.

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From: " Lynn " <mrningdw@...>

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 8:30 PM

Subject: Re: homeopathy

> Coffea Cruda and Rhus tox I get in my local health food store. Then

> again, I live in the Santa Cruz area of CA, and they abound aplenty!

>

> I use a homeopath on my dog for cataracts. That I get from an online

> place called Hannah's Herbs. They do have a storefront, but not in my

> area. Boulder, CO. Blue, my dog, has a genetic thing with his eyes.

> I had one removed, but refuse to remove the other one. He's been on a

> cataract homeopath for over a year now, and I do believe that it helps

> him. Depends on what vet you talk to. If I talk to my Mountain Vet,

> he says that Blue is doing great. If I go into the doc that took out

> his other eye, she would say to take the other one out, or put him

> down. Not an option.

>

> http://www.hannasherbshop.com/

>

> Best wishes!!

>

> Lynn

> in Ca.

>

>

>

> On 7/18/05, MorningGlory113@... <MorningGlory113@...> wrote:

> > I SWEAR by Coffea Cruda 30c, for the middle of the night mind talk

> > that won't go away.

> >

> > When my dog had bad heart problems I used to give her Craetagus 30x and

> > Cactus Grande 30x every day. They are homeopathic remedies very specific

for

> > heart problems. The vet said he didn't know what I was giving her, but

to

> > keep it up because she was hanging in there years longer than their

original

> > prognosis.

> > Where do you buy your homeopathic remedies? They have some of the more

> > common ones in health food stores, but I sometimes need ones that you

> > basically have to get from a homeopathic pharmacy.

> > Gloria

> >

>

>

>

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I remember Hannah Kroger years back. When she died spoke at her ceremony in Boulder. I'm outside Boulder within minutes. She used to do a church service at her chapel in Boulder way back when.

Oh, I remember when Molly, my dog, 5 years ago, before going raw had a bite on her nose. I tried it all, but did find holistic vet who gave my dog homeopathic pills. Flashback here. It worked!

carolLynn <mrningdw@...> wrote:

Coffea Cruda and Rhus tox I get in my local health food store. Thenagain, I live in the Santa Cruz area of CA, and they abound aplenty!I use a homeopath on my dog for cataracts. That I get from an onlineplace called Hannah's Herbs. They do have a storefront, but not in myarea. Boulder, CO. Blue, my dog, has a genetic thing with his eyes. I had one removed, but refuse to remove the other one. He's been on acataract homeopath for over a year now, and I do believe that it helpshim. Depends on what vet you talk to. If I talk to my Mountain Vet,he says that Blue is doing great. If I go into the doc that took outhis other eye, she would say to take the other one out, or put himdown. Not an option.http://www.hannasherbshop.com/Best wishes!!Lynn in Ca.

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What remedy do you take?

Sierra

> Hello,

>

> Been on MTX for the past 10 months. Started with 5 pills / day and

up to 6.

> MTX alone didn't do much for me. Today rheumatologist added 20mgs

of

> Leflunomid the generic of Arava and I'll be seeing him again in a

month.

> His preference for me is Embril (SPL?)but from what I understood he

needs to

> go through a process of elimination in order for the insurance to

cover it.

> Any of you on this combination of meds (MTX & Arava)? Is it

working? I

> appreciate your feedback.

>

> (in MA)

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My husband and I both tried it for other medical issues. Spent lots of money

and it never did us any good.

Amber

has anyone ever tried homeopathy? I am considering trying it.

7774 <tanya7774@...> wrote: icbluu,

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Thanks for your feedback.

Paris

Amber <amber@...> wrote:

My husband and I both tried it for other medical issues. Spent lots of

money and it never did us any good.

Amber

has anyone ever tried homeopathy? I am considering trying it.

7774 <tanya7774@...> wrote: icbluu,

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Homeopathy can be exceptionally effective. Because it is an energetic therapy

it must hit the middle of the bullseye. If off even a bit it may have no effect

at all. this is a very finite science. that someone has no benefit in a

particular situation is not a judgment upon the whole. If attempting

homeopathy, please pick your practitioner carefully and your chances for success

will skyrocket. Always, in all ways, -Dave

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gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:35 PM

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My husband and I both tried it for other medical issues. Spent lots of money

and it never did us any good.

Amber

has anyone ever tried homeopathy? I am considering trying it.

7774 <tanya7774@...<mailto:tanya7774@...>> wrote: icbluu,

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Well, I wish them luck with it. We worked with a homeopath who was very highly

recommended and we were very optimistic about it. Neither of us would ever try

it again. It's been a few years ago, so I don't remember exactly how much it

cost us, but each session was about $150. apiece. We had little bottles of

drops that we had to take several times a day. Fifteen drops of one thing, 5

drops of something else and on and on like that. I think some use tablets that

are to be dissolved under the tongue, but we were sold drops, and a lot of

different bottles of them. That's about all I remember about it now. I really

wish " skyrocket " was a word I could use to describe our experience.

Amber

Homeopathy can be exceptionally effective. Because it is an energetic therapy

it must hit the middle of the bullseye. If off even a bit it may have no effect

at all. this is a very finite science. that someone has no benefit in a

particular situation is not a judgment upon the whole. If attempting homeopathy,

please pick your practitioner carefully and your chances for success will

skyrocket. Always, in all ways, -Dave

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Homeopathy for those who are not familiar, is an energetic trigger. the more

that a remedy is diluted and succused, the deeper acting and the longer acting.

After a 60X succusion the chances of there being even one molecule of the

original substance left is less than winning the Powerball. Therefore 2 things

must be present for them to work. First as I said before the energetic must be

hit precisely, if not, zero effect. second because it is an energetic trigger,

all the processes and raw materials required to perform the action that you wish

to trigger must be present and available. So, in our overfed and undernourished

culture homeopathy tends to not work quite so well as in poorer but better

nutriented cultures. It is kind of like jumping into a cab and saying " take me

to Broadway and Tenth. If there is no cab driver, you go nowhere.

The proof is always in the pudding. In the case below, the practitioner

should have been gauging the effectiveness of treatment bases on the progress

his/her client was making. If after a couple of stabs they have not hit the

mark, maybe they should have cut you loose before your bank account was drained.

-D

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gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:16 AM

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Well, I wish them luck with it. We worked with a homeopath who was very highly

recommended and we were very optimistic about it. Neither of us would ever try

it again. It's been a few years ago, so I don't remember exactly how much it

cost us, but each session was about $150. apiece. We had little bottles of drops

that we had to take several times a day. Fifteen drops of one thing, 5 drops of

something else and on and on like that. I think some use tablets that are to be

dissolved under the tongue, but we were sold drops, and a lot of different

bottles of them. That's about all I remember about it now. I really wish

" skyrocket " was a word I could use to describe our experience.

Amber

Homeopathy can be exceptionally effective. Because it is an energetic therapy

it must hit the middle of the bullseye. If off even a bit it may have no effect

at all. this is a very finite science. that someone has no benefit in a

particular situation is not a judgment upon the whole. If attempting homeopathy,

please pick your practitioner carefully and your chances for success will

skyrocket. Always, in all ways, -Dave

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I totally agree. I had to pull the plug on it.

Amber

The proof is always in the pudding. In the case below, the practitioner should

have been gauging the effectiveness of treatment bases on the progress his/her

client was making. If after a couple of stabs they have not hit the mark, maybe

they should have cut you loose before your bank account was drained. -D

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In 2000, my wife, who had 4mm of gallstone, got cured in 3 months'

medication of homeopathy.

She had gotten date for surgery, all tests done.

But luckily, someone suggested, and we started the 3 months's course

costing 8 dollars.

She was suffering from pain for 4 years. never came to know that it

was gallstone. thought it to be a stomach pain only.

Got ultrasound and found it a 4mm gallstone.

She is perfect since 2000, but she has not gone through any

ultrasound.

I have heard numerous examples of successful treatments of different

diseases through homeopathy.

Kishan Singh

Delhi

>

> I totally agree. I had to pull the plug on it.

>

> Amber

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>

>

> The proof is always in the pudding. In the case below, the

practitioner should have been gauging the effectiveness of treatment

bases on the progress his/her client was making. If after a couple

of stabs they have not hit the mark, maybe they should have cut you

loose before your bank account was drained. -D

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