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On 2/12/2008, " St. " (sarahkauai@...) wrote:

> Is that (Air Zone XT 400) a good air purifier?

It looks like an excellent one... thanks for the tip !

> What do people on this list like?

>

> I have an old Living Air Alpine model which I sort of inherited.

> How do they rate, in the scheme of things?

Alpines are pretty much worthless... and they DO output nitrogen oxides.

I was only aware of one commercially available brand that didn't, but

now, apparently, the Air-Zone doesn't either.

They sell a whole house unit as well... looks like its time to buy a new

one.

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Thanks ,

I'm very sorry to hear of all that you've gone through with mold. I'm not

feeling too far behind you healthwise at this point. I'd be interested to hear

about what you learned to do to mitigate mold in your home after all the trials

you've gone through. Where may I ask are you living now that is dryer? We may

down the road when we get our home straightened out be looking for a better

climate for me. I too am from the northeast orginally, but most of my problems

really developed since moving to the lower eastern shore of maryland. We moved

here for a job oppprtunity for my wife and found out much later how prolific

mold is in this region. Our home was okay, plus we had wood floors and we kept

the house spotless. Things went arry when we had a bad roof install and later

led to water/mold damage.

I did own an alpine unit years ago and didn't have much luck with it. As I

mentioned the odatus I now own which worked better for me, doesn't really shock

the mold as statd by the Air-Zone company. Have you heard of them?

I have heard of Richie Shoemaker, have also read his book. I hope it's not as

bleak as he says. I considered going to him but have concerns about his

protocols being too harsh on my liver which is not too well.

I appreciated your thoughts on this and wish you all good health,

cahydesmond <cahydesmond@...> wrote:

---I have had to battle with mold for a very long time. We used to

live in the East coast and in some old homes. I wish we had not but I

did not know then what I know now. I still live in an older home but

we have done a lot of things to improve and remove mold. But now I am

extremelly allergic to mold. Living in a dry climate has helped. We

have always used an Alpine ozonater to remove mold and it has worked

for us quite well. I see them in Ebay still and I almost bought

anther for our basement. But I have also used our ozone generator the

one I use for medical treatments and that has done the best in

removing the mold. We get to do 2 things at once. WE treat the house

and we treat me for fungas with it.

I also wear one of those air purifiers around my neck when I am in

places that has mold or musty. That helps so much.

There are 2 books that are quite educational on mold. One is " your

guide to mold toxins? by Schaller and Rosen if you have

children and " Mold Illness and mold remediation made simple " by the

same authors.

Also " Mold WArriors " by Ritchie Shoemaker is very insightul in what

this mold can do to people.

Not sure is that is what you were looking for.

cathy

In oxyplus , Eagle <jacobadler123@...> wrote:

>

> Forgive me if I missed this. But has anyone used any of the Air-

Zone units? If so, what has been your experience? I own an old odatus

that has never been good at steilizing a room of mold even

temporarily, but it worked nice for odors.

>

> The Air-Zone units claim that their units provide the right

amount of ozone output to " shock-treat " the mold. Has anyone

experienced that? Can you also use the units to add o2 to the air on

a lower setting?

>

> I'd appreciate any help. I recently moved out of our home

temporarily while we wait to have it remediated due to water and mold

damage. I've been in what seemed to be a fine little apartment for

over a month. Last week the weather warmed up to the mid-60's for a

few days and since then there's been distinct mold smells. Nothing

like our house, but bad enough to give me problems.

>

> Thanks very much,

>

>

>

> Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...> wrote:

> --- Simon Jester <tanstaafl@...> wrote:

>

> > On 2/12/2008, " St. " (sarahkauai@...)

> > wrote:

> > > Is that (Air Zone XT 400) a good air purifier?

> >

> > It looks like an excellent one... thanks for the tip

> > !

> >

> > > What do people on this list like?

> > >

> > > I have an old Living Air Alpine model which I sort

> > of inherited.

> > > How do they rate, in the scheme of things?

> >

> > Alpines are pretty much worthless... and they DO

> > output nitrogen oxides.

> > I was only aware of one commercially available brand

> > that didn't, but

> > now, apparently, the Air-Zone doesn't either.

> >

> > They sell a whole house unit as well... looks like

> > its time to buy a new

> > one.

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with

> > oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help

> > subjects.

> >

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Yes the airzone xt-400 is in my attic 24/7 on a very low setting. I

change the filter and clean the element once a year otherwise it is

maintenance free. The shock treatment units are good for blasting the

place out and but would be cautious and remove computers, DVD players,

VCRs and other devices with mechanical elements before doing a shock

treatment.

In my experience the low level machines work fine if not better in the

long run. They are commonly used on yachts and house boats where

without them mold is unavoidable. They are quite safe when set

properly (basically below the threshold where you can smell ozone).

Best to get them in the attic or inside the structure were they can

attack the mold at the source of the problem.

I do notice the house smells fresh with the airzone in. My house is

80+ years and old near the ocean. A few weeks without the ozone and

the musty odor returns. Airzone makes one that installs in the duct

which is a fantastic solution for newer buildings and homes.

Regarding the nitrous debate I have had several other cheap ozone

generators and must say the Airzone produces the sweetest/cleanest

smelling ozone of any... it smells very similar to medical ozone.

There is a new fascist initiative that has passed in California to ban

ozone air purifiers. I fear it may be a step from the establishment to

attack medical ozone next. In any case, soon you will not be able to

legally purchase them here.

good luck!

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:36:24 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>,

>

> Do you run your airzone 24/7? If so on what setting? Which one did you

purchase? I've seen thst they have units for both shock treatments and others

for regualr use. What do you notice from runnin it? Does it oxygenate the air?

Have you ever had any problems with other appliances, electronics being harmed

by the unit? Do you use in conjunction with any other air filters?

>

> My old odatus was okay but sometimes I'd have to shut it off even at low

levels as I think it did emit some nox.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> Deras <rilkeansoul@...> wrote:

> I think for regular household (non medical) use the Airzone units are

>maybe the best. They are a little pricey but well built with great

>warranties (5 years on mine) and seem to last forever when used on a

>full duty 24/7 cycle. The new generation of Enaly machines from China

>are probably the best deals for the money, and are also very well

>made.

>

>best,

>

>

>On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:42:35 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>

>>

>>http://www.balkowitsch.com/products.php?search_man=66

>>

>>I have the residential unit for almost 6 years now and

>>its still humming along. Bought it on Ed McCabes

>>recommendation.

>>

>>The above link sells it for $75 less than tools for

>>healing.

>>

>>http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ASO-2500R

>>

>>

>>--- Simon Jester <tanstaafl@...> wrote:

>>

>>> On 2/12/2008, " St. " (sarahkauai@...)

>>> wrote:

>>> > Is that (Air Zone XT 400) a good air purifier?

>>>

>>> It looks like an excellent one... thanks for the tip

>>> !

>>>

>>> > What do people on this list like?

>>> >

>>> > I have an old Living Air Alpine model which I sort

>>> of inherited.

>>> > How do they rate, in the scheme of things?

>>>

>>> Alpines are pretty much worthless... and they DO

>>> output nitrogen oxides.

>>> I was only aware of one commercially available brand

>>> that didn't, but

>>> now, apparently, the Air-Zone doesn't either.

>>>

>>> They sell a whole house unit as well... looks like

>>> its time to buy a new

>>> one.

>>>

>>>

>>> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with

>>> oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help

>>> subjects.

>>>

>>> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>>>

>>> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things

>>> you will find here are for information and research

>>> purposes only. We are people sharing information we

>>> believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do

>>> so at your own risk. Self-help requires

>>> intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take

>>> responsibility for your own actions. By joining the

>>> list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible

>>> FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here

>>> without consulting a medical professional, unless

>>> you are a researcher or health care provider.

>>>

>>> You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW

>>> e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS

>>> LIST! -

>>> DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE

>>> SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! :

>>>

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>>>

>>> oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your

>>> subscription to normal mode.

>>>

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