Re: Blood Disease, Where does the iron come from ?

January 19, 2008

Hey Wayne. Well, wherever they get the iron from, the doctors tell them

their body produces it. At least that's what my friend told me. She had to

go in every few weeks and get pints of blood drawn. I asked her one time

what happened if she didn't. She said the headaches were horrible and then

nausea, which she had to wait for because they couldn't take blood too soon!

She was 82 at the time I knew her and a real amazing woman. But many times

she'd talk of wishing she could just die and get over it. She even bought

that book on committing suicide easily so that she didn't have to suffer

with her illness any more. It killed her brother. It's not something that

you could look at her and say " oh, she's sick " . She always looked fine,

except you could see it in her eyes. I always felt bad for her.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I doubt that the body every produced 1 mg or iron.

The body is normally very intelligent in managing iron. It even conserves

and keeps iron when red blood cells die. That indicates how critical iron

actually is to the blood and the body.

January 19, 2008

Evening ,

At 07:13 PM 1/19/2008, you wrote:

>I doubt that the body every produced 1 mg or iron.

>Hey Wayne. Well, wherever they get the iron from, the doctors tell them

>their body produces it.

As I often ask people about the mainstream medical,................

What else do they tell you that you believe?

Likewise,

What else does the doctor tell you that you belive.

Either believe your doctor or believe Einstein.

He makes it crystal clear. " Matter cannot be created or destroyed " .

To make some happy, he should have added, " By man " and he may have.

Likewise, " Energy cannot be created or destroyed " .

The universe was created by energy (or god if up are a Christian ), but

since energy cannot be created or destroyed, does this mean that the

universe was never created and never will be destroyed?

I think our new blimp has thousands of " Mini Energy Cells " . Does anyone

thing for one minute, these are creating energy ?

The research scientist I am working with is doing research of energy, paid

for by a large city in another country.

Of course he is not trying to " Create Energy " .

Most research today is related to harvesting energy ( and storing it ) from

near nothing. But, the energy was already there.

My job relative to the research is simple, Data log the results of his

efforts.

Often I wonder what it takes to make a research scientists?

Several degrees, Knowledge, vision, contacts, .......... and the keen

desire to work with proven ideas to see what was missed, and ....... if

there is a better and more efficient way to accomplish the impossible, or

accomplish what has already been accomplished.

The funny part is, ....... most of the ideas of methods, how to set up the

devices, ........ are my ideas.

Few people have the desire, the nerve, the knowledge, and the guts to

disagree with Einstein, but........ I guess many doctors may qualify. They

will do it every day.

I read all your message. It was sad and very interesting.

I fully realize the blood disorders are a major ailment and very serious.

Keeping the iron in order is a major task. Often I wonder how some of us

do it.

Wayne

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January 19, 2008

Hey Wayne. I'm always amazed at what the body can do. And you are

right--the body is not producing iron out of nothing. It is already there,

but not handling it right. I'm just not as specific in my thought/speaking

process as you are. You have the mind of a scientist. I have the mind of a

blunderer--one who stumbles onto things and then yells " eureka! " lol Or,

like what's-his-name, ummm, Newton--and his gravity thing when the apple hit

:-) if that's even a real story. Your mind is set to look at things and

discern the subtle differences, even in words. I'm not set that way.

I remember listening to a preacher on TV one night years ago. I liked him

(can't remember his name, he's a black guy and his kid preaches now I think)

because he pointed out things most people didn't recognize. Like, he hated

the Nativities at Xmas because he says " no way, no how, that the 3 wise men

made it to the baby's crib. Get those wise men OUT of there " . Because he

pointed out that the bible says they brought gifts of gold, frankincense and

myrrh to the CHILD Jesus, not baby Jesus. Meaning they must not have gotten

there until he was 2 maybe 3 years old, old enough to be called a child.

Made sense. But how many people think of that? How many even stop to

consider it--because they have always been told they came to see the BABY

Jesus. We hardly ever question what we have been told. Hmmm what does

that say for us? And so you see how it sets you apart from most of the rest

of the pack. :-) I appreciate it when people can point out the obvious

that I overlook. Makes me pay more attention next time.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

As I often ask people about the mainstream medical,................

What else do they tell you that you believe?

Likewise,

What else does the doctor tell you that you belive.

January 20, 2008

Hi,

Iron overload, hemachrondiasis (?) is one of those actually genetic

conditions, not one of those " must be genetic " conditions. The body

handles iron differently. There's a book called Survival of the Sickest

that describes this in the first chapter. It's a good reading book. I

remember that IP6 will lower iron. Overdosing iron in old people in

the clutches of hospitals is one of things that make me angry. Take one

very sick old person already on 12 other medications and add in iron,

creating a firestorm of oxidative stress and giving all bacteria the

taste treat of their lives and poof. A much sicker or dead old person.

Well, they were very old.

Oh, my goodness, lab reference ranges. Who are those normal people that

make up the norms? Usually some other 100 sick people that came in for

blood draws. If you're going to do something drastic based on blood

work results or other lab tests, have the tests repeated somewhere else

to make sure the tests were run correctly and the norms are sensible.

January 20, 2008

It is spelled Hemocromitosis.