Re: Re: Study finds mercury fillings not harmful

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ravenmagic2003 wrote:

> Bill wrote: " Would this be the same FDA that uses intimidation and

> threats against its own scientists to ensure they toe the party line,

> regardless of what the evidence may show? "

>

> If you are saying you believe that mercury and thimerosal cause

> autism, that is a different commentary than if you are stating without

> proof that an organization, agency, corporation or individual is

> involved in the criminal act of intimidation and threatening.

>

> Raven

>

Nope. I'm saying mercury is poisonous, there have been studies (going

back to the early 1800s) that show that mercury in fillings is

poisonous, and the FDA's " report " is part and parcel with their other

" reports " that claim that drugs like Lipitor and Vioxx are healthy and

safe - reports which, according to the FDA's own scientists, were

created with the help of intimidation and threats by FDA management

against its own scientists.

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Mercury is not only bad for you. It's the reason for the term "mad as a hatter". Thimerosol is so toxic it is being taken out of vaccines because of the overwhelming evidence that it does cause the NEGATIVE SYMPTOMS in autism and many other diseases. We're talking about a truly evil metal. Bill Hartwell <raven@...> wrote: ravenmagic2003 wrote:> Bill wrote: "Would this be the same FDA that uses intimidation and > threats against its own scientists to ensure they toe the party line, > regardless

of what the evidence may show?">> If you are saying you believe that mercury and thimerosal cause > autism, that is a different commentary than if you are stating without > proof that an organization, agency, corporation or individual is > involved in the criminal act of intimidation and threatening. >> Raven> Nope. I'm saying mercury is poisonous, there have been studies (going back to the early 1800s) that show that mercury in fillings is poisonous, and the FDA's "report" is part and parcel with their other "reports" that claim that drugs like Lipitor and Vioxx are healthy and safe - reports which, according to the FDA's own scientists, were created with the help of intimidation and threats by FDA management against its own scientists.

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In a message dated 9/3/2006 11:30:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

I've read some articles about FDA officials taking bribes from drug companies and other manufacturers to suppress results gotten by their own scientists that went against the use of certain drugs.I don't know if they have done the same thing regarding mercury fillings though.TomAdministrator

This was primarily done with certain politically correct drugs, notably the "morning after pill." That one was rushed through the approval system very quickly, even by the standards of the new fast track program Clinton had just set up. I have to wonder about their wisdom with other drugs, particularly Valtrex, the drug that suppresses the symptoms of a herpes outbreak. It stops the blisters from appearing, but it still leaves the person in an infectious state. I find it amusing that the commercials themselves say that 70% of the people with herpes got it from partners that showed no symptoms. And this drug is going to help stop the spread of herpes how? Someone really dropped the ball on this one.

As for mercury, it is toxic in certain conditions and amounts. However, new research is showing that the mercury found in tuna isn't so harmful to most people, pregnant women and children are still advised to limit their intake. Mercury fillings can be problems sometimes and I have read cases of where people have been hurt by them. However, I also personally know a a great many people who have multiple amalgam fillings that have had no trouble. My dentist who has been practicing for 30 years has also only had a few cases of leaking fillings and they were easy to detect. Even then, none of the patients had problems. That's not saying that mine might not harm me one day, there is always that chance. However, that chance is small and I'll take risk over having all those teeth pulled.

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ravenmagic2003 wrote:

> Thank you for the clarification on your comments on mercury, Bill.

>

> I still have difficulties however with unfounded accusations where

> no proof exists. While what you are claiming with regards to the

> scientists may be factual, without proof one cannot make these

> statements as fact.

>

> Raven

Take a look at this

article:http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/interference/fda-scientists-s\

urvey-summary.html

for a summary of the study (with links to separate detailed documents in

pdf format) that provides the evidence that supports my statements.

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It's always a battle to get the truth. There are two kinds of people in this world. There are the parasites and there are the ones who have a conscience and use it for the greater good. People are led to believe in post-modernism and Gen-X that there are grey areas. People who abuse drugs, people who are lazy and don't care, often use the excuses in the grey area to justify their parasitic lifestyle. The vaccine manufacturers are the types who use the grey, lukewarm areas to feed everyone bullcrap. It's just like the frog in the water. The water slowly gets hotter and the frog doesn't think to get out. It's a subtle erosion of the constitution and individual freedom. You pose an interesting question. I have my own set of abstract theories on the matter. The one thing that stands out the most is the greed factor and that is what I'm positively sure of. They say thimerosol is a cheap preservative........mikecarrie01 <mikecarrie01@...> wrote: Thimerosol is very toxic. My question is, outside of the autism issue, why would they put ethylmercury--a known highly toxic substance, in a vaccine and then give it to babies, and then jab the baby several times with several vaccines, all containing thimerosol? Jabbing the substance directly into a baby's system, unnaturally bypassing the mucosal barrier of the immune system, through which all toxins must naturally pass. "Would this be the same FDA that uses intimidation and > > threats against its own scientists to ensure they toe the party line, > > regardless of what the evidence may show?"> >> > If you are saying you believe that mercury and thimerosal cause > > autism, that is a different commentary than if you are stating without > > proof that an

organization, agency, corporation or individual is > > involved in the criminal act of intimidation and threatening. > >> > Raven> > > > Nope. I'm saying mercury is poisonous, there have been studies (going > back to the early 1800s) that show that mercury in fillings is > poisonous, and the FDA's "report" is part and parcel with their other > "reports" that claim that drugs like Lipitor and Vioxx are healthy and > safe - reports which, according to the FDA's own scientists, were > created with the help of intimidation and threats by FDA management > against its own scientists.> > > > > > ---------------------------------> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.>

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Now, see that's what I have to wonder about. There was a social order in the 1800's. The quick and the dead is what some people say. Then others say it was less anarchy and that people died of things like diptheria,pneumonia,and so forth. Some say both happened because the people were too stupid to think otherwise. Of course that's a lie. Most things that have been introduced from the industrial age aren't really needed. There is so much waste that just thinking about all the useless crap is mind-boggling. Calvin Coolidge even died of cholera before it was eradicated with treatments. I have heard that people live longer in developed countries. It's interesting that America is number 48 on the list. People live longer but, how is their quality of life? There it is again. had mentioned how people are led to believe that America is the 'greatest', 'the best','superior'. No wonder. Everything is based on capitalism. I have to go along with on

that because it makes more sense than any theories brought up thus far as to why America has less quality of life, higher suicide rates, depression epidemic, obesity. It all ties in well with the liberal agenda. People are expected to sell themselves even if they don't have merit. That also ties in with the fact that they ought to do surveillance on suspected psychopaths in corporations. Psychopaths sell themselves well even if they are crackpots. In no way is the disease going away. The disease is what they profit from. They don't want everyone dying. They want to keep their bodies alive to make a profit. Never mind the heart and soul of every individual. It's just like cows. Once they have enough they'll start killing the older ones off to make a profit out of . environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: I agree that ever since the industrial revolution, the world has become more polluted. We are indeed exposed to more toxins which threaten our growth, our development, and our genetic offspring. Nevertheless, people in developed countries..the very countries that produce the most pollution, still have longer life spans than years ago.TomAdministratorRe: Re: Study finds mercury fillings not harmful Good points. One of them I have to disagree with. There is

more pollution in industrial nations such as America. The pollution I'm speaking of is dioxin,mercury from coal tar factories, benzine, acetyldehyde and the list goes on. I agree with your statement that Asperger and Autism is not a disorder of the nature of a person like crackpot scientists want people to think.

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