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Some people have to reduce or drop SNT once on enzymes. If your

child starts absorbing the vit B nutrient from foods and is also on

SNT, that can be too much B6.

If the problems did not start until you added zinc and calcium, I

would consider dropping them for awhile to see if that helps. When

you do add supplements, add only one at a time so you can tell which

is helping or hurting.

And, yes, it's always possible he is just being two! Once my son was

on enzymes, he had tremendous gains - but he and his brother also

started acting like brothers. It was a big adjustment for me to deal

with that typical competitive brother stuff.

> Ok, my son is 2 years and 10 months and has been on Supra Nu (1 tsp

> a day, divided into two doses) for two months, AFP (one per meal=3

> per day) for one month, and HZ (bumped him up to 1/2 cap last week

> from 1/3 per meal) for two weeks. I just treated him with GSE (3

> drps per day for 5 days.) for yeast and I am still giving him Uvi

> Ursa (once with the lunch meds) for that. I stopped the GSE

> today . I think I have the yeast under control now. His stools

> look great. He also started Zinc(20 mg per day) and Calcium (120

mg

> per day) one week ago. Now, today he has decided to not do any of

> his VBA with his therapist. He wants to play and look at all the

> stuff they use but not work with it. He keeps running out of the

> room. This is great because he used to never want to play with

> anything but he is getting grochy if you redirect him to the chair

> to work! I am just wondering if anyone out there has any

suggestion

> why he is getting grouchy I would love to know. Could it be that

he

> is acting like a two year old? I don't know because he is my only

> child and haven't been around many NT children that are two.

> Thanks for the information in advance. I thought I would throw

this

> out there just in case I am missing something.

> Thanks

> Dena

> Mother of Hayden

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> Ok, my son is 2 years and 10 months and has been on Supra Nu (1 tsp

> a day, divided into two doses) for two months, AFP (one per meal=3

> per day) for one month, and HZ (bumped him up to 1/2 cap last week

> from 1/3 per meal) for two weeks. I just treated him with GSE (3

> drps per day for 5 days.) for yeast and I am still giving him Uvi

> Ursa (once with the lunch meds) for that. I stopped the GSE

> today . I think I have the yeast under control now. His stools

> look great. He also started Zinc(20 mg per day) and Calcium (120 mg

> per day) one week ago. Now, today he has decided to not do any of

> his VBA with his therapist.

Is there zinc in the SNT? Some kids don't do well with high zinc,

because it dumps copper too fast, and 20mg for a 2-3 yo child might be

high, especially if there is more zinc in the SNT. You might consider

removing that one, or at least reducing it, and see if that helps.

I had to experiment to find a calcium supplement my son tolerated.

Dana

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I hate almost all calcium supps except the wateroz ones (or similar)

(www.wateroz.com/ www.realityheathresearch.com) but that probably isn't your

problem.

20 mg might be a little high on zinc unless you are also supplementing some

of the other minerals, like magnesium, chromium, manganese, selenium,

potassium, etc). It depends on what kind of zinc you are using, however.

20 mg of zinc sulphate is less absorbable than zinc citrate, which would be

a LOT more asorbably but probably too much at 20 mg, if you see my point.

You might need some magnesium (again use the angstrom sized minerals if you

think they'd suit, I love them) at least. It might make him more calm.

2 y.o. are always busy and usually defiant, or so they say. My kids are not

very defiant in any case and never were at 2. My daughter was more

difficult toward 3/4, if I remember right. My son was always east and too

passive, although things are changing all the time.....

......

I have no idea how these therapists do anything with a 2 y.o.!!!! I'd have

thought it was up to them to make themselves appealing enough to warrant

attention!

Marti

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Yes, see http://www.paleofood.com -- lots of recipes.

Elfstrom

>I have a friend who is in desperate need of some recipes that are FREE OF

>GLUTEN, SUGAR AND WHEAT. However, for now she can hardly afford to pay

>attention, much less purchase any cookbooks. Can someone point us in a

>direction on the web to find recipes until she can purchase a cookbook?

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Hi

Here is a good place too

http://www.glutenfreemall.com/

Marge

> Hi Group,

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> I have a friend who is in desperate need of some recipes that are

FREE

> OF GLUTEN, SUGAR AND WHEAT. However, for now she can hardly afford

to

> pay attention, much less purchase any cookbooks. Can someone point

us

> in a direction on the web to find recipes until she can purchase a

> cookbook? Also, if anyone has a suggestion regarding books to

avoid or

> books to purchase, it would certainly be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

> Roneice

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I'm posting on behalf of a friend - her 70 yr old father has suffered

w/RA for close to 30 yrs now. Last spring he developed vasculitis (I

believe this has something to do w/his RA but I could be mistaken).

In September he began to get sick - he'd spike very high fevers, but

the drs couldn't find anything wrong. He was in and out of the

hospital from Sept-Dec. In early December, he went into the hospital

and has not left once - as of today, he's been in bed for a week. He

keeps spiking fevers with no sign of infection anywhere in his body.

Just this week they have started him on Humira.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? Has anyone been through this?

She is at her wits end. He's at a very highly regarded hospital and

they're getting nowhere.

Thanks in advance for any help you could offer.

Jane

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I don't really know anything about it but the high fevers sound a lot like Adult Onset Still's Disease. Janis who posts under the name Island Woman on Arthritis Insight http://www.arthritisinsight.com/cgi-bin/wsmbb/wsmbb.cgi?SB+KYWRJLLXVS/AKFCLKZQUN+config has it and may be able to answer questions. I have no idea how the vasculitis fits in. Thanks for trying to help your friend and her father. God bless.

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From: j_x_healey

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:14 PM

Subject: Can someone help?

I'm posting on behalf of a friend - her 70 yr old father has suffered w/RA for close to 30 yrs now. Last spring he developed vasculitis (I believe this has something to do w/his RA but I could be mistaken). In September he began to get sick - he'd spike very high fevers, but the drs couldn't find anything wrong. He was in and out of the hospital from Sept-Dec. In early December, he went into the hospital and has not left once - as of today, he's been in bed for a week. He keeps spiking fevers with no sign of infection anywhere in his body. Just this week they have started him on Humira. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Has anyone been through this? She is at her wits end. He's at a very highly regarded hospital and they're getting nowhere.Thanks in advance for any help you could offer.Jane

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Jane,

I have no idea what it may be that your describing. In my short

limited experience with RA, I don't recall ever hearing anyone in

this group post anything resembling what you described in the past 9

months I've been here.

I know we can develop fevers with RA but mine were always a low grade

fever and never spiked.

I'm sorry I'm of no help. I think you may have most of us stumped and

that is why your not getting any responses to your post. It is not

that we are ignoring you. This has been the nost helpful group of

people I have ever had the privilege of being associated with, other

than the EMT's with my volunteer ambulance corp of course!

Best of luck with your friend's father. Our prayers are with him.

Jay

> I'm posting on behalf of a friend - her 70 yr old father has

suffered

> w/RA for close to 30 yrs now. Last spring he developed vasculitis

(I

> believe this has something to do w/his RA but I could be

mistaken).

> In September he began to get sick - he'd spike very high fevers,

but

> the drs couldn't find anything wrong. He was in and out of the

> hospital from Sept-Dec. In early December, he went into the

hospital

> and has not left once - as of today, he's been in bed for a week.

He

> keeps spiking fevers with no sign of infection anywhere in his

body.

> Just this week they have started him on Humira.

>

> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Has anyone been through

this?

> She is at her wits end. He's at a very highly regarded hospital

and

> they're getting nowhere.

>

> Thanks in advance for any help you could offer.

>

> Jane

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Jay,

Thanks for that - I figured exactly that (not ignoring but no

suggestions) but it was nice of you to make sure I understood that.

I belong to a group for another health issue and same

there .... great, helpful people but sometimes a msg just " dies "

because no one has an answer.

Thanks!

Jane

> > I'm posting on behalf of a friend - her 70 yr old father has

> suffered

> > w/RA for close to 30 yrs now. Last spring he developed

vasculitis

> (I

> > believe this has something to do w/his RA but I could be

> mistaken).

> > In September he began to get sick - he'd spike very high fevers,

> but

> > the drs couldn't find anything wrong. He was in and out of the

> > hospital from Sept-Dec. In early December, he went into the

> hospital

> > and has not left once - as of today, he's been in bed for a

week.

> He

> > keeps spiking fevers with no sign of infection anywhere in his

> body.

> > Just this week they have started him on Humira.

> >

> > Does this sound familiar to anyone? Has anyone been through

> this?

> > She is at her wits end. He's at a very highly regarded hospital

> and

> > they're getting nowhere.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for any help you could offer.

> >

> > Jane

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