Guest guest Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Kent,First thing to be clear about is that the software shows you what the brain is doing. So when someone who has raised his levels effectively begins to show drops that don't turn around, that probably means the brain is tired--it has done all it can do in response to the challenge--and it's time to stop training that spot. Overtraining is a bigger problem with HEG than under training. As for your daughter, the best way to get improvements is just to keep training ever 3-4 days.Why don't you just use a monitor instead of TV? That should take care of the delay. Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com USA 678 224 5895BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Kent 2 <kentmartin99@...> wrote: Pete and all, I have been using nir HEG for a few people. One has had great results, resetting the level to a higher one twice in a 5 minute session. He got better at it (higher gains and longer sustained) each session. I did however notice with this individual that when he did fall below the reward level his levels would start dropping dramatically. I tried to reduce the threshold but the button was to slow to catch his decline. I modified the design and made the reduce threshold go down faster and pressed it quickly when he would go below the reward level and hey presto he was back to great gains once again. Has anyone had this experience? I should mention that he had a serious TBI centred at the right SMR cortex near the ear. Some frontal lode damage also present nearest the impact area. I have also been working with my daughter who has Prader willi Syndrome and is 6. I have found it extremely difficult to get her to increase her HEG levels and have only managed consistent gains a few times, and it generally takes her some time to get gains. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to help her? She watches DVD’s and the screen size changes along with volume and the standard tones in the design. She has a lot of difficulty maintaining attention and has lately be sleeping sometime during the day. Also I am concerned about delays in the digital TV I use for a monitor. The audio seems to have a slight delay and perhaps the video does too, but I cannot measure that. I use a DVI cable to the TV. Should I perhaps use a VGA cable and stereo audio cable to possibly reduce delays? Since another person has trained successfully(note only used silent movies) I don’t know if the delay is relevant unless it depends on the brain in question. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Pete, I don’t’ think it was tiredness. It usually happened right at the beginning of a session or shortly after. I use the TV because it is convenient. i.e. TV in the right room, and the monitor is not. Just looking for tips that I haven’t tried to get improvements. Thanks, Kent. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of pvdtlc Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2012 11:00 PM Subject: Re: talking of nir HEG... Kent, First thing to be clear about is that the software shows you what the brain is doing. So when someone who has raised his levels effectively begins to show drops that don't turn around, that probably means the brain is tired--it has done all it can do in response to the challenge--and it's time to stop training that spot. Overtraining is a bigger problem with HEG than under training. As for your daughter, the best way to get improvements is just to keep training ever 3-4 days. Why don't you just use a monitor instead of TV? That should take care of the delay. Pete -- Van Deusen pvdtlc@... http://www.brain-trainer.com USA 678 224 5895 BR 47 3346 6235 The Learning Curve, Inc. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Kent 2 <kentmartin99@...> wrote: Pete and all, I have been using nir HEG for a few people. One has had great results, resetting the level to a higher one twice in a 5 minute session. He got better at it (higher gains and longer sustained) each session. I did however notice with this individual that when he did fall below the reward level his levels would start dropping dramatically. I tried to reduce the threshold but the button was to slow to catch his decline. I modified the design and made the reduce threshold go down faster and pressed it quickly when he would go below the reward level and hey presto he was back to great gains once again. Has anyone had this experience? I should mention that he had a serious TBI centred at the right SMR cortex near the ear. Some frontal lode damage also present nearest the impact area. I have also been working with my daughter who has Prader willi Syndrome and is 6. I have found it extremely difficult to get her to increase her HEG levels and have only managed consistent gains a few times, and it generally takes her some time to get gains. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to help her? She watches DVD’s and the screen size changes along with volume and the standard tones in the design. She has a lot of difficulty maintaining attention and has lately be sleeping sometime during the day. Also I am concerned about delays in the digital TV I use for a monitor. The audio seems to have a slight delay and perhaps the video does too, but I cannot measure that. I use a DVI cable to the TV. Should I perhaps use a VGA cable and stereo audio cable to possibly reduce delays? Since another person has trained successfully(note only used silent movies) I don’t know if the delay is relevant unless it depends on the brain in question. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 There was a thread on the list a while back about people who are overally activated, how they often start a session by having values drop rather than rise. Then they are able to bring them back up again. Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.comUSA 678 224 5895 BR 47 3346 6235The Learning Curve, Inc. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Kent 2 <kentmartin99@...> wrote: Pete, I don’t’ think it was tiredness. It usually happened right at the beginning of a session or shortly after. I use the TV because it is convenient. i.e. TV in the right room, and the monitor is not. Just looking for tips that I haven’t tried to get improvements. Thanks, Kent. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of pvdtlc Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2012 11:00 PM Subject: Re: talking of nir HEG... Kent, First thing to be clear about is that the software shows you what the brain is doing. So when someone who has raised his levels effectively begins to show drops that don't turn around, that probably means the brain is tired--it has done all it can do in response to the challenge--and it's time to stop training that spot. Overtraining is a bigger problem with HEG than under training. As for your daughter, the best way to get improvements is just to keep training ever 3-4 days. Why don't you just use a monitor instead of TV? That should take care of the delay. Pete -- Van Deusen pvdtlc@... http://www.brain-trainer.com USA 678 224 5895 BR 47 3346 6235 The Learning Curve, Inc. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Kent 2 <kentmartin99@...> wrote: Pete and all, I have been using nir HEG for a few people. One has had great results, resetting the level to a higher one twice in a 5 minute session. He got better at it (higher gains and longer sustained) each session. I did however notice with this individual that when he did fall below the reward level his levels would start dropping dramatically. I tried to reduce the threshold but the button was to slow to catch his decline. I modified the design and made the reduce threshold go down faster and pressed it quickly when he would go below the reward level and hey presto he was back to great gains once again. Has anyone had this experience? I should mention that he had a serious TBI centred at the right SMR cortex near the ear. Some frontal lode damage also present nearest the impact area. I have also been working with my daughter who has Prader willi Syndrome and is 6. I have found it extremely difficult to get her to increase her HEG levels and have only managed consistent gains a few times, and it generally takes her some time to get gains. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to help her? She watches DVD’s and the screen size changes along with volume and the standard tones in the design. She has a lot of difficulty maintaining attention and has lately be sleeping sometime during the day. Also I am concerned about delays in the digital TV I use for a monitor. The audio seems to have a slight delay and perhaps the video does too, but I cannot measure that. I use a DVI cable to the TV. Should I perhaps use a VGA cable and stereo audio cable to possibly reduce delays? Since another person has trained successfully(note only used silent movies) I don’t know if the delay is relevant unless it depends on the brain in question. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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