Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 That's interesting. All I read about the opinion on autism was that parents should NOT have choice about whether their kids were vaccinated or not. Here's the comment, as I remember it. "Well sign them up for health insurance in the schools, just like innoculations. And if any parent refuses, we'll fine them." Doesn't sound too friendly to me. Francine p.s. Whereas McCain was openly for parental choice, and came out early and said there seemed to be a link between vaccination and autism. Pretty courageous. In a message dated 12/2/2008 11:38:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, peaceforkids2005@... writes: Since he is from here I think this is appropriate for someone inHawai'i to post: http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/AutismSpectrumDisorders.pdfLook closely at this and let's decide as a whole.. every parent in thenation to for once make a President back up his words..and since theV.P. elect is going to be so active he needs to back up their words onthat statement. I found it doing some searches today and had ofcourse known about it from other ways but didn't realize they postedthis on their site - this helps dramatically in producing proposedlegislation for the new Administration to PASS as they have made thispromise. Another parent in one of the groups is putting me in touchwith one of Obama's staffers so that should kick off one of the many'swings' the world of ASD's will take at the 'hardball' approach. Iam very thankful that somebody in a high ranking..or shall we say inless then two months the Highest Rank in the nation - is addressingAutism. FINALLY !!! Now it's up to us parents and those that aremore active to get involved and make those words into reality. "Change " - it's about time. E. , Sr. Global Civil Rights Lobbyist/Advocate epiousian = the expression of agapequite a bit more than enoughMake your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I take it the message didn't quite come across to you as I meant it to.. so let me clarify that. McCain is a Senator, President Elect Barrack Obama won and is our very near future president.. he made these promises to us as stated on his site. I'm glad that McCain brought the issue up.. but it wasn't because he felt like it or wanted to do anything but slam Obama again. What McCain stated was great..but moot. Obama will be taking office and as the post states..lets be ready. I am personally an Independent (It's sorta hard to Lobby for our kids if I'm blue or red) and was not taking a political position with that post other then to say " Let's make sure this campaign promise is kept " . If McCain would have won and if he would have posted anything about Autism on his Websites I would expect the same from him. I appreciate your input but will not respond to your quoted comment - as with anything in Politics I generally want to see something to back it up...and what I see is visible on Obama/Biden's site. As with any election alot was said, but what's important to me is what is written in such a manner as was stated on the site I posted. Again, this was not a statement saying " I love Obama " , it was stating to make sure this key element (to me it was a key) issue that we have a 'promise' on be kept. Thank you, E. , Sr. The Office of Advocacy for Autistic Children > > > > That's interesting. All I read about the opinion on autism was that parents > should NOT have choice about whether their kids were vaccinated or not. > > Here's the comment, as I remember it. > > " Well sign them up for health insurance in the schools, just like > innoculations. And if any parent refuses, we'll fine them. " > > Doesn't sound too friendly to me. > > Francine > > p.s. Whereas McCain was openly for parental choice, and came out early and > said there seemed to be a link between vaccination and autism. Pretty > courageous. > > In a message dated 12/2/2008 11:38:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > peaceforkids2005@... writes: > > > > > Since he is from here I think this is appropriate for someone in > Hawai'i to post: > _http://www.barackobhttp://www.bhttp://www.barachttp://www._ > (http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/AutismSpectrumDisorders.pdf) > Look closely at this and let's decide as a whole.. every parent in the > nation to for once make a President back up his words..and since the > V.P. elect is going to be so active he needs to back up their words on > that statement. I found it doing some searches today and had of > course known about it from other ways but didn't realize they posted > this on their site - this helps dramatically in producing proposed > legislation for the new Administration to PASS as they have made this > promise. Another parent in one of the groups is putting me in touch > with one of Obama's staffers so that should kick off one of the many > 'swings' the world of ASD's will take at the 'hardball' approach. I > am very thankful that somebody in a high ranking..or shall we say in > less then two months the Highest Rank in the nation - is addressing > Autism. FINALLY !!! Now it's up to us parents and those that are > more active to get involved and make those words into reality. " > Change " - it's about time. > E. , Sr. Global Civil Rights Lobbyist/Advocate > > > > > > > > epiousian = the expression of agape > > quite a bit more than enough > > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Francine, I hit the reply before I saw your P.S. . There is a Link between Vaccines and Autism.. I think the Dr's Greier have proven this not only once but backed it up again. I believe that Rimland and many others were there in the late 90's as the Thimerosal fight began. So I personally don't think it's that courageous to state there might be a link - I think it's lack of knowledge that there IS a link. I do think it's important that anyone that promises America something in exchange for a Term as a President keeps that promise..we all know these promise slip away - but we have some control as a large population of individuals. The most important thing is that as a whole we don't let our political opinions (which obviously differ from your post) get in the way of what will happen for our kids in the future. Thank you again for your input..both sides of the picture are important to look at. At this time with multiple individuals putting together the wording for proposed Bills, ACT's, etc. we need to look at who is going to be the President and make sure that he keeps his promise. If we as a whole turn our backs because we don't like the guy, we're turning our backs on our kids. I may be radical in my opinion but through the years that's what it has taken. E. , Sr. > > > > That's interesting. All I read about the opinion on autism was that parents > should NOT have choice about whether their kids were vaccinated or not. > > Here's the comment, as I remember it. > > " Well sign them up for health insurance in the schools, just like > innoculations. And if any parent refuses, we'll fine them. " > > Doesn't sound too friendly to me. > > Francine > > p.s. Whereas McCain was openly for parental choice, and came out early and > said there seemed to be a link between vaccination and autism. Pretty > courageous. > > In a message dated 12/2/2008 11:38:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > peaceforkids2005@... writes: > > > > > Since he is from here I think this is appropriate for someone in > Hawai'i to post: > _http://www.barackobhttp://www.bhttp://www.barachttp://www._ > (http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/AutismSpectrumDisorders.pdf) > Look closely at this and let's decide as a whole.. every parent in the > nation to for once make a President back up his words..and since the > V.P. elect is going to be so active he needs to back up their words on > that statement. I found it doing some searches today and had of > course known about it from other ways but didn't realize they posted > this on their site - this helps dramatically in producing proposed > legislation for the new Administration to PASS as they have made this > promise. Another parent in one of the groups is putting me in touch > with one of Obama's staffers so that should kick off one of the many > 'swings' the world of ASD's will take at the 'hardball' approach. I > am very thankful that somebody in a high ranking..or shall we say in > less then two months the Highest Rank in the nation - is addressing > Autism. FINALLY !!! Now it's up to us parents and those that are > more active to get involved and make those words into reality. " > Change " - it's about time. > E. , Sr. Global Civil Rights Lobbyist/Advocate > > > > > > > > epiousian = the expression of agape > > quite a bit more than enough > > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Francine.. you stated <What would be the good of treatments if forced vaccination would send the child/adult right back into autism? I say that parental choice is the most important step. If you're asking for it, I'd support that.> I understand from your direct email that you are a McCain or Republican fan and that is is your Civil Right. There is absolutely nothing on the Obama/Biden site that was posted that says anything about forced vaccination and I definitely am all for parental choice. Vaccine's can not be forced based upon the Constitution.. as your direct email stated to me 'is the most important thing'. We do have the right to Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Religious persecution.. which allows waivers for vaccinations and has through the last 3 Presidents and will continue with Obama. I must say I do not appreciate your direct email that is slanderous in regards to the New Leader of our country. Please get beyond the rhetoric and let's get to business with what is at hand.. and that is a New Administration and a new future for this country. I think that those of us that disagree need to 'agree' we have a disagreement and MOVE ON.. for the sake of our children. Please do not think you are alone when it comes to watching your child suffer at the very hands of the makers of such Vaccinations. Please do some research and if you can find out *I already know* please tell me who was the Chairman of the Board at Eli Lilly when Thimerosal was approved.... When you come to this answer you'll be quite amazed. We are all in this together and it is very important we try to keep a grip on our feelings and personal viewpoints especially with politics. I apologize if you feel this is out of line or my response to your email to my acct was unacceptable to you.. but I have no time for political squabble.. we all know .. well some of us know who did what and who said what.. but that makes no difference now.. we have a new leader.. he IS a Citizen, was born in the state I'm sitting in now..attended a Private School that only those that were born in Hawai'i can attend.. and has no outstanding suites or claims that he is not American. So please do not email my private account with anymore of that.. it is not acceptable to me. I know that the nation became divided in the campaign but as a community we must stick together for our kids. Thank you and Peace be with you. E. , Sr. ===================== Posted through Grouply, the better way to access your like this one. http://www.grouply.com/?code=post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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