Re: What Grates Against Your Nerves?

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> " I know that when I listen to music, if the vocal harmonies are out

> even slightly (one singer who may be just an eighth of a semi-tone

> out), it grates against my nerves so badly I cannot continue

> listening to the song no matter how good the song may be. The same

> thing happens if it is an instrument that is not exactly in tune

> with the other instruments. "

Well, my ear isn't that good, LOL! But it is hard to listen to people

singing off tune! I LOVE good vocal harmonies.

>

" I have a neighbour in the complex who, when she screeches for her

> teenager to come home, could peel paint off walls three blocks

> away. It's bad enough hearing her speak, but when she's screeching

> for " Cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyssss -

taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal! "

> it's more than my poor ears can take. It's so bad (and this is not

> a joke), that the dogs in the neighbourhood have been known to join

> in with howling of their own as the Search for Crystal begins. :-o "

Now, that's bad! I kind of like it when all the dogs harmonize with

the alarm siren on the ambulence--it makes the ambulence siren less

piercing, but maybe they're a little off key and I don't know it!

One more I forgot--woman who's filing cabinet is by me slams it on

purpose because it's broken and she wants everyone to know she's

unhappy about it. Management doesn't care, or have to hear it,

though, but I do.

>

>

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CDs.

Tom

Administrator

I was thinking today, as I listened to 's " October Road "

that there are certain things that grate against one's nerves and no

matter how much we try to get past the grating, sometimes it is

impossible to do so.

Now, it's not that I find that grates against my nerves

(if he did, listening to this CD would be cruel and unusual

punishment, don't you think? LOL), it's that I know that the sound

of

his voice grates against some people's nerves.

So what are the things that you absolutely cannot stand having in

your

environment because they grate against your nerves?

Raven

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>

> " Whistling! It's like fingernails on chalkboards- worse sometimes.

Loud noises and bright lights are generally extremely annoying. "

Oh, how could I forget?! Styrofoam! That's like nails on chalkboard for

me.

Do birds whistling bother you too?

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Oh, no, I love , especially when he was singing with

Carly Simon, like on the song, Terra Nova.

>

> I was thinking today, as I listened to 's " October Road "

> that there are certain things that grate against one's nerves and no

> matter how much we try to get past the grating, sometimes it is

> impossible to do so.

>

> Now, it's not that I find that grates against my nerves

> (if he did, listening to this CD would be cruel and unusual

> punishment, don't you think? LOL), it's that I know that the sound

> of

> his voice grates against some people's nerves.

>

> So what are the things that you absolutely cannot stand having in

> your

> environment because they grate against your nerves?

>

> Raven

>

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Interesting question. Hmm.... Most birds chirp. And usually you can get away from them the few times there is a whistling songbird around. With whistling, it's almost like they deliberately do it on buses or when standing in lines-- places where it isn't easy to just walk away. Bird chirping is usually almost pleasant- like a "babbling brook" (especially nice and cool during hot summers). I suspect there are something like tonal qualities that are different between chirping and human whistling (I don't know the terminology). Again- interesting question. Heph mikecarrie01 <mikecarrie01@...> wrote: >>"Whistling! It's like fingernails on chalkboards- worse sometimes. Loud noises and bright lights are generally extremely annoying."Oh, how could I forget?! Styrofoam! That's like nails on chalkboard for me.Do birds whistling bother you too? Hephaestus

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I also hate Carly Simon.

Tom

Administrator

>

> I was thinking today, as I listened to 's " October

Road " that there are certain things that grate against one's nerves

and no matter how much we try to get past the grating, sometimes it

is impossible to do so.

Now, it's not that I find that grates against my nerves

(if he did, listening to this CD would be cruel and unusual

punishment, don't you think? LOL), it's that I know that the sound

of his voice grates against some people's nerves.

So what are the things that you absolutely cannot stand having in

your environment because they grate against your nerves?

Raven

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In a message dated 8/26/2006 1:04:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, 6emini@... writes:

The high pitched noise from fluorescent lights & gum snapping peopleKim

Gum snapping people are absolutely dreadful. Its enough that I have to hurry along or begin seriously contemplating physically harming them. Whistlers are just as bad.

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In a message dated 8/26/2006 1:04:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, 6emini@... writes:

The high pitched noise from fluorescent lights & gum snapping peopleKim

Gum snapping people are absolutely dreadful. Its enough that I have to hurry along or begin seriously contemplating physically harming them. Whistlers are just as bad.

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The high pitched noise from fluorescent lights & gum snapping people

Kim

So what are the things that you absolutely cannot stand having in your

environment because they grate against your nerves?

Raven

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The high pitched noise from fluorescent lights & gum snapping people

Kim

So what are the things that you absolutely cannot stand having in your

environment because they grate against your nerves?

Raven

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Found out just recently Carly Simon is related to the Simon & Schuster publishing empire. For various reasons including business I happen to following publishers fairly closely, and of the non-academic publishers S & S are by far my favorite. (Courageous, intellectual, imaginative, etc.) Still her music is for me just very mildly pleasant, if that- but it kind of puts her in a new light for me somehow. (The history of Simon and Schuster is also an interesting one. I think she's the daughter of one of the founding Simon brothers.) Heph environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: I also hate Carly Simon.TomAdministrator>> I was thinking today, as I listened to 's "October Road" that there are certain things that grate against one's nerves and no matter how much we try to get past the grating, sometimes it is impossible to do so.Now, it's not that I find that grates against my nerves(if he did, listening to this CD would be cruel and unusualpunishment, don't you think? LOL), it's that I know that the soundof his voice grates against some people's nerves.So what are the things that you absolutely cannot stand having inyour environment because they grate against your nerves?RavenHephaestus

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Found out just recently Carly Simon is related to the Simon & Schuster publishing empire. For various reasons including business I happen to following publishers fairly closely, and of the non-academic publishers S & S are by far my favorite. (Courageous, intellectual, imaginative, etc.) Still her music is for me just very mildly pleasant, if that- but it kind of puts her in a new light for me somehow. (The history of Simon and Schuster is also an interesting one. I think she's the daughter of one of the founding Simon brothers.) Heph environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: I also hate Carly Simon.TomAdministrator>> I was thinking today, as I listened to 's "October Road" that there are certain things that grate against one's nerves and no matter how much we try to get past the grating, sometimes it is impossible to do so.Now, it's not that I find that grates against my nerves(if he did, listening to this CD would be cruel and unusualpunishment, don't you think? LOL), it's that I know that the soundof his voice grates against some people's nerves.So what are the things that you absolutely cannot stand having inyour environment because they grate against your nerves?RavenHephaestus

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That's interesting. We both agree on gum-snappers and whistlers. Kind of extrapolating from the gum snappers- people who smack with their mouth loudly when eating ...especially when drowning out the tv set even!... I knew a high-rated chess-player undiagnosed aspie-type-ish ex-roommate who used to do that. It seems to me in some vague way I can't quite articulate that there is something about mouth-generated noise-sounds that is particularly distracting and annoying. Heph VISIGOTH@... wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2006 1:04:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, 6eminiameritech (DOT) net writes: The high pitched noise from fluorescent lights & gum snapping peopleKim Gum snapping people are absolutely dreadful. Its enough that I have to hurry along or begin seriously contemplating physically harming them. Whistlers are just as bad. Hephaestus Clubfoothttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestushttp://www.pantheon.org/articles/h/hephaestus.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabeiroi

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Slurping too! I bought Freezer Pops and when my hubby eats them he

will try to sit by me and talk and slurp. Yuck! Eat or talk, not

both.

Kim

> In a message dated 8/26/2006 1:04:53 PM Eastern

Standard Time, 6emini@... writes:

> The high pitched noise from fluorescent lights & gum snapping

people

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> Kim

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> Gum snapping people are absolutely dreadful. Its enough that I

have to hurry along or begin seriously contemplating physically

harming them. Whistlers are just as bad.

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> Hephaestus Clubfoot

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In a message dated 8/26/2006 1:34:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, lemnosforge@... writes:

Kind of extrapolating from the gum snappers- people who smack with their mouth loudly when eating ...especially when drowning out the tv set even!... I knew a high-rated chess-player undiagnosed aspie-type-ish ex-roommate who used to do that. It seems to me in some vague way I can't quite articulate that there is something about mouth-generated noise-sounds that is particularly distracting and annoying.

Heph

Mouth noises are very annoying, which is why I prefer to eat alone. If I'm at a restaurant, I'll try to sit where I'm not facing others, which isn't easy since I like to sit where I can see the door and where people can't get behind me. If I'm with my mother, I can usually get her to sit in such a way that she blocks people with particularly annoying eating habits.

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Heph wrote: " I think [Carly Simon] is the daughter of one of the

founding Simon brothers.)

She is one of the Simon brother's daughters of publishing fame. She

also has an older sister who earned a living as an opera singer.

Raven

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Kids in restaurants drive me nuts. Especially in sit-down

restaurants. I wish parents would get it through their heads: If you

can't find a sitter, then don't show up. Your kids are spoiling it

for the rest of us.

Tom

Administrator

Re: Re: What Grates Against Your Nerves?

In a message dated 8/26/2006 1:34:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lemnosforge@... writes:

Kind of extrapolating from the gum snappers- people who smack with

their mouth loudly when eating ...especially when drowning out the

tv set even!... I knew a high-rated chess-player undiagnosed aspie-

type-ish ex-roommate who used to do that. It seems to me in some

vague way I can't quite articulate that there is something about

mouth-generated noise-sounds that is particularly distracting and

annoying.

Heph

Mouth noises are very annoying, which is why I prefer to eat alone.

If I'm at a restaurant, I'll try to sit where I'm not facing others,

which isn't easy since I like to sit where I can see the door and

where people can't get behind me. If I'm with my mother, I can

usually get her to sit in such a way that she blocks people with

particularly annoying eating habits.

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Drunks .... in their backyards making total idiots of themselves, in

parks making total idiots of themselves, where and making total idiots

of themselves. They never seem to be able to do this quietly.

Raven

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In a message dated 8/27/2006 2:13:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, lemnosforge@... writes:

Much later I learned about a whole set of rules they use to evaluate you at the lunch. Weird stuff. A lot is really class-snobbery.

The upper classes have almost always had extensive social etiquette rules. In the 1800's, these literally numbered in the thousands and one could make a faux pas very easily and thus be considered a lout and be laughed at. I would never had made in it in high society because the only rules I really follow are: eat with your mouth shut, no slurping, no talking with food in your mouth, no belching etc., and generally try not to make a revolting mess on and around yourself.

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That reminds me of something I found amusing a little while ago. Randi on AirAmerica radio had a caller who was apparently just then beginning to slurp the bottom of a fountain soda. Randi - love her brashness/directness! - drew attention to the caller's rudeness and they went back and forth for about sixty seconds or so. I loved it! Heph VISIGOTH@... wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2006 2:27:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, 6eminiameritech (DOT) net writes: Slurping too! I bought Freezer Pops and when my hubby eats them he will try to sit by me and talk and slurp. Yuck! Eat or talk, not both.Kim I get after people about that too. I'll tell them to eat first, then talk. I've never understood this thing people have about "business lunches" where they eat and talk. It always struck me as more practical to eat first and fast, then get on with the meeting. That way attention wasn't divided between business matters and eating. Really annoying are the people who eat while on the phone with you. I've hung up on people for

doing that. A sip of a drink now and then fine, but don't try eating a pack of crackers. Hephaestus Clubfoothttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestushttp://www.pantheon.org/articles/h/hephaestus.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabeiroi

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You mentioned business lunches- and interview lunches are something very different, but I thought I'd mention those... Back when I was being interviewed for a career position with a big firm I went through the business-lunch-interview process several times. Much later I learned about a whole set of rules they use to evaluate you at the lunch. Weird stuff. A lot is really class-snobbery. If you have a glass of wine with lunch- well maybe you're alcoholic so they look for other signs of that as a reason to not hire you. If soup is ordered, do you put just a little in the spoon and lift if up to your mouth, or if you're like me where laundry is an expense to be minimized like all other expenses- do you lean in over the bowl to shorten the spoon-traveling-distance to keep from making a mess of your expensive suit and tie? Do you know what a salad fork is for? A soup spoon? The number of weird

little things you're being evaluated on is quite large. How do you interact with the waiter? How do you interact with the person interviewing you in placing your order- such as do you order the same (too conformist and unimaginative) or do you order something strange without asking the waiter about it (too afraid to ask possibly impolite questions). In some cases I think there isn't really any one single correct action- just an overall impression the interviewer gathers. The only thing that would really matter to me as the interviewer is - do you treat the waiter with respect? Oh yeah, and do you smack and loud noises when eating. (Humor...mostly.) Heph VISIGOTH@... wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2006 2:27:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, 6eminiameritech (DOT) net writes: Slurping too! I bought Freezer Pops and when my hubby eats them he will try to sit by me and talk and slurp. Yuck! Eat or talk, not both.Kim I get after people about that too. I'll tell them to eat first, then talk. I've never understood this thing people have about "business lunches" where they eat and talk. It

always struck me as more practical to eat first and fast, then get on with the meeting. That way attention wasn't divided between business matters and eating. Really annoying are the people who eat while on the phone with you. I've hung up on people for doing that. A sip of a drink now and then fine, but don't try eating a pack of crackers. Hephaestus

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wrote: " The upper classes have almost always had extensive

social etiquette rules. In the 1800's, these literally numbered in

the thousands and one could make a faux pas very easily and thus be

considered a lout and be laughed at. I would never had made in it in

high society because the only rules I really follow are: eat with

your mouth shut, no slurping, no talking with food in your mouth, no

belching etc., and generally try not to make a revolting mess on and

around yourself. "

Unfortunately, the rules of etiquette -- still numbering in the

hundreds even in this day and age -- seem to yield a higher level of

debauchery as well, in my opinion. Personally, I would much rather

have someone who follows the simple rules you have indicated, ,

than have someone who knew and followed ALL the rules of etiquette but

who had a serious lack of ethical and moral fibre in his or her true

self.

Raven

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It's all guessing anyway. There are any number of variables that

can happen that might cause an interviewee to act weird over a meal,

or...conversely, they could act A1 by accident.

On the other hand, such lunches, and other methods by which they

must sneakily size you up is what they have to resort to in a

country that is now too politically correct.

Questions I could not ask when interviewing people for the job:

1) Do you have kids? (People with kids have a higher amount of

absenteeism than those that do not, inconveniencing others in the

workplace and causing others who are already overworked to shoulder

even heavier loads.)

2) How long do you plan on staying with us? (Some people just get a

job for the insurance, and when the spouse finds a better job, they

quit. Or else they have higher earning spouses whose jobs take them

around the country and so they move frequently. It is a waste of

time and money to train these people only to have them quit six

months after they are fully trained.)

3) Have you completed your education? (Many folks in the business

world continue to take classes to fortify their educations. But

those who supervise and manage such people resent them because many

times class time interfers with their work days, or else the night

classes these people take cut into their sleep time so their

productivity winds up suffering subsequent mornings.)

4) Are you planning on having kids? (Many of the people at the bank

were women planning on becoming pregnant as soon as their insurance

kicked in, and who would then have two or three kids in a row. They

were almost constantly out on materinity leave but would then demand

raises even while their actual worktime was only 6 months a year.

They would threaten lawsuits for our being " discriminatory " when we

pointed their skill levels were substandard in comparison with other

workers who had been there all the time they were abset.)

5) Etc. Too many to list.

Tom

Administrator

3)

Much later I learned about a whole set of rules they use to evaluate

you at the lunch.

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Newton's law (For every action, there is an equal an opposite

reaction) would appear to apply to social rules as well. If you're

rich, you have more social rules to follow, but then there is more

debauchery.

When you are middle or lower class, you tend to care less about social

rules but more about religion (when was the last time you say

Trump at a Bible Belt tent revival) and staying within the law,

because getting caught breaking the law could mean lawsuits or legal

expenses you cannot afford. Morals and ethics tend to be obeyed more

among the middle and lower classes too.

Tom

Administrator

Unfortunately, the rules of etiquette -- still numbering in the

hundreds even in this day and age -- seem to yield a higher level of

debauchery as well, in my opinion. Personally, I would much rather

have someone who follows the simple rules you have indicated, ,

than have someone who knew and followed ALL the rules of etiquette but

who had a serious lack of ethical and moral fibre in his or her true

self.

Raven

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LOL. Nevermind...

> >

> > I was thinking today, as I listened to 's " October

> Road " that there are certain things that grate against one's nerves

> and no matter how much we try to get past the grating, sometimes it

> is impossible to do so.

>

> Now, it's not that I find that grates against my nerves

> (if he did, listening to this CD would be cruel and unusual

> punishment, don't you think? LOL), it's that I know that the sound

> of his voice grates against some people's nerves.

>

> So what are the things that you absolutely cannot stand having in

> your environment because they grate against your nerves?

>

> Raven

>