Guest guest Posted January 20, 2002 Report Share Posted January 20, 2002 Hi Gail, I didn't even notice that CFIDS wasn't listed on the -list description. I went to the website and saw that it wasn't listed in several important areas. There are many people working on things to update the websites, etc. CFIDS and other related disorders will be listed more clearly than they are now. There are quite a few of us adults with CFIDS on the list, so you're not alone. We may focus more on autism, adhd, etc. because we also have children who are ill. I ended up with CFIDS, one child with CFIDS, and the other child was diagnosed with a form of autism. It seems ironic that the same behavioral modification is also advocated for the kids. I really hope that all the various groups can unite for a common goal. The more people that are involved, the quicker we can all gain access to better treatments. Glad you joined us Cheryl >From: " gmilserfd " <lmayberr@...> >Reply- > >Subject: >Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 04:12:15 -0000 > >I was privileged to hear Dr. Goldberg speak today in Sacramento, CA. > >I was so impressed. His hypothesis answered many of my ques. Also >affirmed what I had thought for a long time regarding my own CFIDS. > >I had come across this site before but did not join because the >opening page did not mention CFIDS. Now I am interested in Dr. >Goldberg's message, and autism. Please mention CFIDS on your home >page. As Dr. Goldberg so candidly said in his talk, people with CFIDS >have been " jerked around " for over twenty years and the only >recommendation that has been recently approved by JAMA is behavioral >modification. I know that this site is primarily for Autism but we, >too, so desperately need support, research and a place to come for >answers. I think you will get more support for the autism challenge if >you include and reach out to the CFIDS population who are hungry for >answers, treatments and a cure. > >Thank you, Gail > > > > > >Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with >the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the >opinion of the Research Institute. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2002 Report Share Posted January 20, 2002 > people with CFIDS >have been " jerked around " for over twenty years >and the only >recommendation that has been recently approved by >JAMA is behavioral modification. As a firm supporter of ABA in the treatment of autism, I was curious about this statement. How is behavior modification used in the treatment of CFIDS? I am trying to imagine but... I am not sure what kind of behavioral modification program is designed for CFIDS.... I was given a cite a few weeks back on how ABA was used to reduce the rates of seizures in children so I know that it isn't entirely out of the question to use ABA to treat medical issues but... Anyone know exactly what this involves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 What is ABA? Gail " H. " wrote: > > people with CFIDS > >have been " jerked around " for over twenty years >and the only > >recommendation that has been recently approved by >JAMA is behavioral > modification. > > As a firm supporter of ABA in the treatment > of autism, I was curious about this statement. > How is behavior modification used in the treatment > of CFIDS? I am trying to imagine but... I am > not sure what kind of behavioral modification > program is designed for CFIDS.... > > I was given a cite a few weeks back on how > ABA was used to reduce the rates of seizures > in children so I know that it isn't entirely > out of the question to use ABA to treat > medical issues but... > > Anyone know exactly what this involves? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Could someone please explain what CFIDS is and what I the symptoms? I am CONFUSED!!!!!!!! --- Cheryl B <clbro66@...> wrote: > Hi Gail, > I didn't even notice that CFIDS wasn't listed on the > -list description. > I went to the website and saw that it wasn't > listed in several > important areas. There are many people working on > things to update the > websites, etc. CFIDS and other related disorders > will be listed more > clearly than they are now. > > There are quite a few of us adults with CFIDS on the > list, so you're not > alone. We may focus more on autism, adhd, etc. > because we also have > children who are ill. I ended up with CFIDS, one > child with CFIDS, and the > other child was diagnosed with a form of autism. It > seems ironic that the > same behavioral modification is also advocated for > the kids. > > I really hope that all the various groups can unite > for a common goal. The > more people that are involved, the quicker we can > all gain access to better > treatments. > > Glad you joined us > Cheryl > > > >From: " gmilserfd " <lmayberr@...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: > >Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 04:12:15 -0000 > > > >I was privileged to hear Dr. Goldberg speak today > in Sacramento, CA. > > > >I was so impressed. His hypothesis answered many of > my ques. Also > >affirmed what I had thought for a long time > regarding my own CFIDS. > > > >I had come across this site before but did not join > because the > >opening page did not mention CFIDS. Now I am > interested in Dr. > >Goldberg's message, and autism. Please mention > CFIDS on your home > >page. As Dr. Goldberg so candidly said in his talk, > people with CFIDS > >have been " jerked around " for over twenty years and > the only > >recommendation that has been recently approved by > JAMA is behavioral > >modification. I know that this site is primarily > for Autism but we, > >too, so desperately need support, research and a > place to come for > >answers. I think you will get more support for the > autism challenge if > >you include and reach out to the CFIDS population > who are hungry for > >answers, treatments and a cure. > > > >Thank you, Gail > > > > > > > > > > > >Responsibility for the content of this message lies > strictly with > >the original author, and is not necessarily > endorsed by or the > >opinion of the Research Institute. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 CFIDS stands for Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunctions Syndrome. Oher wise known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. There are other name also but this is the name most used in the USA. The symptoms vary. I think for most you could sum it up as saying a chronic flu like feeling. All over body pain, fatigue, malaise, headaches, sore throat, brain fog, depression, memory impairment. My personal symptoms have varied over the years.I have been ill for 15 years. Chronic Flu like symptoms. Swollen lymph glands. Headache Chronic and acute infections. I have chronic viral infections. Currently having a serious bout with acute HHV-6 infection and Mycplasma Pneumonia. Chronic Candida infection Chronic sinus infection Frequent sore throat Frequent ear infections Recently I have had frequent bouts with of Pneumonia. Gastro intestinal upsets.I have GERD and IBS asthma sinus polyps frequent headaches fatigue depression loss of memory. Feeling " not very alert " . I have a high IQ and a college degree but now can't function enough to work. Chronic debilitating all over body pain. Sometimes swelling in joints and pain in joints as well. I am on pain medications daily. I have many other disorders including hearing loss. It was only recently that I visited the site. On Sat I heard Dr. Goldberg speak and now see the correlation. I do believe that CFIDS is a . This site has made me aware of the children. I am so sorry. I was shocked to learn that autism has become an epidemic. Gail Sharnita wrote: > Could someone please explain what CFIDS is and what I > the symptoms? I am CONFUSED!!!!!!!! > > > > --- Cheryl B <clbro66@...> wrote: > > Hi Gail, > > I didn't even notice that CFIDS wasn't listed on the > > -list description. > > I went to the website and saw that it wasn't > > listed in several > > important areas. There are many people working on > > things to update the > > websites, etc. CFIDS and other related disorders > > will be listed more > > clearly than they are now. > > > > There are quite a few of us adults with CFIDS on the > > list, so you're not > > alone. We may focus more on autism, adhd, etc. > > because we also have > > children who are ill. I ended up with CFIDS, one > > child with CFIDS, and the > > other child was diagnosed with a form of autism. It > > seems ironic that the > > same behavioral modification is also advocated for > > the kids. > > > > I really hope that all the various groups can unite > > for a common goal. The > > more people that are involved, the quicker we can > > all gain access to better > > treatments. > > > > Glad you joined us > > Cheryl > > > > > > >From: " gmilserfd " <lmayberr@...> > > >Reply- > > > > > >Subject: > > >Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 04:12:15 -0000 > > > > > >I was privileged to hear Dr. Goldberg speak today > > in Sacramento, CA. > > > > > >I was so impressed. His hypothesis answered many of > > my ques. Also > > >affirmed what I had thought for a long time > > regarding my own CFIDS. > > > > > >I had come across this site before but did not join > > because the > > >opening page did not mention CFIDS. Now I am > > interested in Dr. > > >Goldberg's message, and autism. Please mention > > CFIDS on your home > > >page. As Dr. Goldberg so candidly said in his talk, > > people with CFIDS > > >have been " jerked around " for over twenty years and > > the only > > >recommendation that has been recently approved by > > JAMA is behavioral > > >modification. I know that this site is primarily > > for Autism but we, > > >too, so desperately need support, research and a > > place to come for > > >answers. I think you will get more support for the > > autism challenge if > > >you include and reach out to the CFIDS population > > who are hungry for > > >answers, treatments and a cure. > > > > > >Thank you, Gail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Responsibility for the content of this message lies > > strictly with > > >the original author, and is not necessarily > > endorsed by or the > > >opinion of the Research Institute. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 I don't know how behavioral therapy is used with CFIDS. I know that cognitive therapy is used also. My understanding of BT is that it ussed to change behavior. Thus the proponents of this probably think that if people with CFIDS excersise they will get better. My understanding of cognitive therapy is to change one's way of thinking. Thus if people with CFIDS just change their way of thinking, pull themselves up by their bootstraps emotionally so to speak then they will get better. These therapies just put the illness back into the psychiatric component. And my reaction to this is that if those of us with CFIDS do those things and don't get better then we haven't worked hard enough. Then we have to feel guilty as well as sick. They don't address the disease model and don't address why we run recurrent and chronic infections etc etc. Gail " H. " wrote: > > people with CFIDS > >have been " jerked around " for over twenty years >and the only > >recommendation that has been recently approved by >JAMA is behavioral > modification. > > As a firm supporter of ABA in the treatment > of autism, I was curious about this statement. > How is behavior modification used in the treatment > of CFIDS? I am trying to imagine but... I am > not sure what kind of behavioral modification > program is designed for CFIDS.... > > I was given a cite a few weeks back on how > ABA was used to reduce the rates of seizures > in children so I know that it isn't entirely > out of the question to use ABA to treat > medical issues but... > > Anyone know exactly what this involves? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 My understanding of > cognitive therapy is to change one's way of thinking. Thus if people > with CFIDS just change their way of thinking, pull themselves up by > their bootstraps emotionally so to speak then they will get better. Actually, Cognitive Behavior Therapy changes the way that your brain processes information, thus using the portion of your brian that is fully functioning. If you understand the CFIDS premise, this makes sense because the problems are occuring due to a lack of profusion in certain areas of the brain. It has nothing to do with " pulling yourself up by the boostraps " , but rather training your body to overcome it's problems. It's a similar process to bio-feedback. Khris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 Why does someone with CFIDS need to change the way they process information?Gail khrisday wrote: > My understanding of > > cognitive therapy is to change one's way of thinking. Thus if people > > > with CFIDS just change their way of thinking, pull themselves up by > > their bootstraps emotionally so to speak then they will get better. > > Actually, Cognitive Behavior Therapy changes the way that your brain > processes information, thus using the portion of your brian that is > fully functioning. If you understand the CFIDS premise, this makes > sense because the problems are occuring due to a lack of profusion in > certain areas of the brain. It has nothing to do with " pulling > yourself up by the boostraps " , but rather training your body to > overcome it's problems. It's a similar process to bio-feedback. > Khris > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) has been found to be helpful with chronic disorders like cancer, MS, etc. The problem in the CFS/CFIDS world has been that if a study shows benefits it is used like a weapon that discounts and belittles those who are ill. A few U.K. psychiatrists managed to get a study published in JAMA that promotes CBT and graded exercise as the " sole " treatment. There is a long history behind all of this. We know this is a medical problem. An overwhelming amount of research documents the neuroimmune-endocrine abnormalities. We know that many have very negative responses when they try to become more physically active. I don't think anyone would promote CBT or graded exercise as the sole treatment for cancer or MS because of the benefits. Yet this is exactly what some psychiatrists are promoting. Once again giving fuel to " it's all in your head " , " yuppie flu " , etc. If we would just change our attitude, get on with our lives, then all will be well. Cheryl >From: " H. " <eahcsc@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: >Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:11:16 -0500 > > > people with CFIDS > >have been " jerked around " for over twenty years >and the only > >recommendation that has been recently approved by >JAMA is behavioral >modification. > >As a firm supporter of ABA in the treatment >of autism, I was curious about this statement. >How is behavior modification used in the treatment >of CFIDS? I am trying to imagine but... I am >not sure what kind of behavioral modification >program is designed for CFIDS.... > >I was given a cite a few weeks back on how >ABA was used to reduce the rates of seizures >in children so I know that it isn't entirely >out of the question to use ABA to treat >medical issues but... > >Anyone know exactly what this involves? > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 I don't mean to be a devils advocate here but I do want to understand. I am a former mental health counselor and I have never had anyone tell me this before. Gail Curtis Mayberry wrote: > Why does someone with CFIDS need to change the way they process > information?Gail > > khrisday wrote: > > > My understanding of > > > cognitive therapy is to change one's way of thinking. Thus if people > > > > > with CFIDS just change their way of thinking, pull themselves up by > > > their bootstraps emotionally so to speak then they will get better. > > > > Actually, Cognitive Behavior Therapy changes the way that your brain > > processes information, thus using the portion of your brian that is > > fully functioning. If you understand the CFIDS premise, this makes > > sense because the problems are occuring due to a lack of profusion in > > certain areas of the brain. It has nothing to do with " pulling > > yourself up by the boostraps " , but rather training your body to > > overcome it's problems. It's a similar process to bio-feedback. > > Khris > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Yes, I agree with you..Dr. Wesley I believe is the one causing all the problems for us in the UK. Gail Cheryl B wrote: > CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) has been found to be helpful with > chronic > disorders like cancer, MS, etc. The problem in the CFS/CFIDS world > has been > that if a study shows benefits it is used like a weapon that discounts > and > belittles those who are ill. A few U.K. psychiatrists managed to get > a > study published in JAMA that promotes CBT and graded exercise as the > " sole " > treatment. > > There is a long history behind all of this. We know this is a medical > > problem. An overwhelming amount of research documents the > neuroimmune-endocrine abnormalities. We know that many have very > negative > responses when they try to become more physically active. I don't > think > anyone would promote CBT or graded exercise as the sole treatment for > cancer > or MS because of the benefits. Yet this is exactly what some > psychiatrists > are promoting. Once again giving fuel to " it's all in your head " , > " yuppie > flu " , etc. If we would just change our attitude, get on with our > lives, > then all will be well. > Cheryl > > > > >From: " H. " <eahcsc@...> > >Reply- > >< > > >Subject: Re: > >Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:11:16 -0500 > > > > > people with CFIDS > > >have been " jerked around " for over twenty years >and the only > > >recommendation that has been recently approved by >JAMA is > behavioral > >modification. > > > >As a firm supporter of ABA in the treatment > >of autism, I was curious about this statement. > >How is behavior modification used in the treatment > >of CFIDS? I am trying to imagine but... I am > >not sure what kind of behavioral modification > >program is designed for CFIDS.... > > > >I was given a cite a few weeks back on how > >ABA was used to reduce the rates of seizures > >in children so I know that it isn't entirely > >out of the question to use ABA to treat > >medical issues but... > > > >Anyone know exactly what this involves? > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 > Why does someone with CFIDS need to change the way they process > information?Gail If you understand the neuro-immune disorder theory, you will know that the cause of the CFIDS symptomology is a lack of profusion to certain areas of the brain. Changing the way your brain processes information will allow you to diminish the symptoms, and regain some of the brains functioning. Khris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 My understanding is that behavioral therapy can help you cope with the dysfunction and reduce stress. It doesn't correct the chronic hypoperfusion and immune dysfunction, but can help reduce the problems that come from the way our bodies react to stress. (our bodies don't produce stress hormones, etc. the way a healthy person does.) I know how much stress increases my brainfog. Cheryl >From: " khrisday " <khrisday@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:44:04 -0000 > > > Why does someone with CFIDS need to change the way they process > > information?Gail > > >If you understand the neuro-immune disorder theory, you will know >that the cause of the CFIDS symptomology is a lack of profusion to >certain areas of the brain. Changing the way your brain processes >information will allow you to diminish the symptoms, and regain some >of the brains functioning. >Khris _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 My understanding is that behavioral therapy can help you cope with the dysfunction and reduce stress. It doesn't correct the chronic hypoperfusion and immune dysfunction, but can help reduce the problems that come from the way our bodies react to stress. (our bodies don't produce stress hormones, etc. the way a healthy person does.) I know how much stress increases my brainfog. Cheryl >From: " khrisday " <khrisday@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:44:04 -0000 > > > Why does someone with CFIDS need to change the way they process > > information?Gail > > >If you understand the neuro-immune disorder theory, you will know >that the cause of the CFIDS symptomology is a lack of profusion to >certain areas of the brain. Changing the way your brain processes >information will allow you to diminish the symptoms, and regain some >of the brains functioning. >Khris _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 I thought our bodies produced stress hormones when we are stressed. GAil Cheryl B wrote: > My understanding is that behavioral therapy can help you cope with the > dysfunction and reduce stress. It doesn't correct the chronic hypoperfusion > and immune dysfunction, but can help reduce the problems that come from the > way our bodies react to stress. (our bodies don't produce stress hormones, > etc. the way a healthy person does.) I know how much stress increases my > brainfog. > Cheryl > > >From: " khrisday " <khrisday@...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: Re: > >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:44:04 -0000 > > > > > Why does someone with CFIDS need to change the way they process > > > information?Gail > > > > > >If you understand the neuro-immune disorder theory, you will know > >that the cause of the CFIDS symptomology is a lack of profusion to > >certain areas of the brain. Changing the way your brain processes > >information will allow you to diminish the symptoms, and regain some > >of the brains functioning. > >Khris > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 You said .... our bodies don't produce as much stress hormone. I thought stress hormones cause illness. What kind of stress hormones do you mean? Gail Cheryl B wrote: > My understanding is that behavioral therapy can help you cope with > the > dysfunction and reduce stress. It doesn't correct the chronic > hypoperfusion > and immune dysfunction, but can help reduce the problems that come > from the > way our bodies react to stress. (our bodies don't produce stress > hormones, > etc. the way a healthy person does.) I know how much stress increases > my > brainfog. > Cheryl > > > >From: " khrisday " <khrisday@...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: Re: > >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:44:04 -0000 > > > > > Why does someone with CFIDS need to change the way they process > > > information?Gail > > > > > >If you understand the neuro-immune disorder theory, you will know > >that the cause of the CFIDS symptomology is a lack of profusion to > >certain areas of the brain. Changing the way your brain processes > >information will allow you to diminish the symptoms, and regain some > >of the brains functioning. > >Khris > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 Hi, yes we are supposed to produce them. The problem is when your body doesn't respond normally. The information below is from a state of the science report. It discusses what should happen and some of the findings in CFS. Cheryl The neuroendocrine system is involved in the body's reaction to stress. It involves the central nervous system, endocrine glands, and a number of hormones and other mediators (including cytokines) that act in a variety of regulatory pathways and feedback loops. The stress system is designed for survival of the individual when faced with danger. It induces a state of arousal, alertness, vigilance, and cognition; and shuts down vegetative body functions, such as eating and sleeping, as well as the neuroendocrine programs involved in growth and reproduction. The regulatory pathways built into the neuroendocrine system are designed to stop the system when the danger is no longer present. It is important to recognize that the stress, immune, and sleep systems are linked to one another by several common and multifunctional mediators. Investigations of the stress system dysregulation/disorders that are associated with changes in arousal, mood, and energy levels were undertaken initially to understand the differences between two forms of depression-atypical depression and melancholic depression-with later studies including CFS and fibromyalgia (FMS). Atypical depression is characterized by increased sleep and appetite, weight gain, and profound lethargy and fatigue. Affected persons feel out of touch with themselves. By contrast, melancholic depression is characterized by a state of hyperarousal, with anxiety, decreased concentration, and a reduction in sleeping and eating. Persons with melancholic depression feel worthless and have a sense of hopelessness about the future. To investigate the basis for the differences in symptoms, studies focused on a corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH), which is a neurohormone produced in the hypothalamus region of the brain and is a component of that portion of the body's stress system called the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal axis (HPA). Animal studies have shown CRH to recapitulate many of the physiological and behavioral aspects of the stress system. Studies of CRH levels have demonstrated that the hormone is down regulated in CFS, in atypical depression, and in seasonal affective disorder (SAD), but not in melancholic depression. When CFS patients are stimulated with a cortisol inducer, they have an exaggerated response to small doses and a reduced response to high doses. In both FMS and CFS, there are reduced levels of another stress mediator, norepinephrine. In addition, CRH response to exercise is blunted in CFS patients. Lower levels of CRH and HPA axis activity tend to result in hypoarousal, lethargy, decreased plasma volume, and inflammatory symptoms. Another aspect of the body's response to stress is the shift in the type of the immune response, from cell- mediated immunity to humoral immunity. Studies in strains of rats that differ in their immune responses have shown the effect of this shift. rats, which have an enhanced immune response to multiple stimuli and thus are at risk of autoimmune diseases, have reduced levels of CRH after stress. By contrast, Fisher rats that have relatively low or suppressed immune responses responded adversely to stress, with some animals dying from a particular stressor. Thus, the immune system as a whole, as well as variations within individuals, can affect the stress response. Additional studies are needed to better understand the role of the HPA axis/stress response in CFS. Such studies would involve direct comparisons of basal levels and challenge responses of HPA axis in persons with CFS, SAD, and atypical depression. In addition to its role in stress, CRH is a modulator of wakeful- ness. In animal studies, if CRH is increased, then wakefulness increases; if CRH is reduced, wakefulness decreases. In addition, interleukin-1 (IL-1), a cytokine, enhances sleep in animal models and its concentration peaks in humans at sleep onset. Studies in animal models demonstrate a balance and regulation of CRH and IL-1 by one another. They also demonstrate genetic differences between rat strains in their CRH responsiveness to IL-1. Thus, the immune and stress systems are linked by mediators not only to one another but also to sleep regulation. Although cytokines were named for their immunomodulatory effects, they can penetrate theblood brain barrier, act as neuromodulators, and produce both acute and long-term effects in the brain, particularly in regions associated with cognition and endocrine activity. SNIP>>>> >From: Curtis Mayberry <lmayberr@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: >Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:21:59 -0800 > >I thought our bodies produced stress hormones when we are stressed. GAil > >Cheryl B wrote: > > > My understanding is that behavioral therapy can help you cope with the > > dysfunction and reduce stress. It doesn't correct the chronic >hypoperfusion > > and immune dysfunction, but can help reduce the problems that come from >the > > way our bodies react to stress. (our bodies don't produce stress >hormones, > > etc. the way a healthy person does.) I know how much stress increases my > > brainfog. > > Cheryl > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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