Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Yes I think the word " protocol " is not quite acurate and has been heuristcally used to refer to what Dr. G is doing. Ray At 03:03 PM 12/20/01 -0600, you wrote: --------------------------------------------- >Mark wrote: > >> PHYSICIAN Protocol and Training Documents are also nearing >> completition. --------------------------------------------- >lovemykiddo wrote: >I believe this document would be what *I* am referring to >when I use/hear the term " protocol. " > >The term " protocol " in a medical sense is a document that >describes how one becomes eligible for participation in >a particular treatment methodology, describes that methodology >in detail, describes how one becomes inelible for continued >participation, and describes the medical goals for treatment >in (mostly) quantifiable terms...among other things. As Marc >mentioned, it is not the kind of document posted on a physician's >website for patient-information purposes, although these >documents can make their way to patients, through their >physicians, whose responsibility it is to help them understand >any terminology or concepts that are not normally part of >a layperson's knowledge. They might also become, as >alluded to, part of an informed consent (ie: when one >participates in a medical study.) > >It appears that reference to the term " protocol " with respect to >the organization has, thus far, been much more of a >philosophical and informational document than a method of >communication of medical information amongst physicians. >I think those of us who have either medical or scientific >backgrounds might have had a particular construct about >the term " protocol " that doesn't include something that Mark >referred to as a " parents protocol " .....and his post seems to >clarify that we may be talking about two different items >here when using the term " protocol " ...the medical documents >that I'm more familiar with that appear to be forthcoming, and >the more " patient-friendly " information provided >primarily for parents, on Dr. Goldberg's website. I believe >the " Physician Protocol " that Mark refers to in the part of his >post that I highlighted above, is the document that some of us are >inquiring about, and that our children's physicians are looking for >to answer their questions. > >Perhaps this has been a semantics problem all along? > > > > > > > > >Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with >the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the >opinion of the Research Institute. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 Dear List Members, First let me apologize for the length of this post but hopefully, the information presented will help refocus this list back to its original intent. Please read through the entire post as it contains important information. I am sorry for not posting this information sooner. The Board felt the time was better served toward completing the documents described below instead of writing about them yet, recent exchanges on this list have proved quite disconcerting so I will briefly refocus my energy to provide an update to all of you. First of all, I would like to thank all the members and moderators who have tried to bring the lists posts back under control. It is often quite difficult to feel attacked and keep a straight head and respond to the assault. Your energy and input is greatly appreciated. Now for the update: A Parents protocol will be available for parents of children who are patients of practitioners. While there will never be a specific protocol posted on the web-site (due to the individualized nature for each patient) there will be general information more readily available. In fact, as has been mentioned on many occasions, the information and specifics are ALL THERE on the web site, in the Ask Dr. Goldberg section at www.neuroimmunedr.com, and in the post archives. Never-the-less, the Parent Coalition is currently in the process of creating a Informational Packet, which will contain an overview of diagnosis and treatment protocol for those interested in learning more, educating others or exposing medical professionals to the Treatment. A PATIENT Handbook and PHYSICIAN Protocol and Training Documents are also nearing completition. The Parent Coalition is fully supportive and in fact encourages full participation and understanding of treatment procedures, guidelines, lab-work and medications by all Parents/Patients but, it is very important that everyone understand that this is a MEDICAL PROTOCOL which requires a physician's guidance and supervision and therefore carries with it potential liability exposure (for the Coalition as well as for the physicians). The exact treatment for each patient can vary and requires the treating physician, along with the parent/patient to review all previous history, lab work and medications before making treatment decisions. Once sign-off by the Scientific and Medical Advisory Board and our legal counsel is complete, the distribution details for the above documents will be posted. Rest assured, the Coalition is as anxious as any of you to get these documents out and spread the word about . We are a Non-profit Organization and only actual costs will be passed on. There are grant and foundation proposals out to help subsidize physician training and treatment for needy patients. We are working hard to make this information and treatment available to all! I know it is hard to hear these words but please, be patient. The Coalition is a volunteer organization of parents and professionals. I can't remember the last time I got to sleep before 1AM as I am up late every night, working on this mission. I know the same is true for almost every other member of the Board. We don't ask for sympathy, just a little patience. I understand the frustration every parent/patient on this list feels (please remember, every member of the BOD is a parent as well as perhaps a patient) and I certainly think that open discourse and exchange of questions is a good thing. Yet as of late, the tone has become bitter and critical and this really must stop. This list should act as our living room where we can all feel comfortable to exchange ideas--but it is not pleasant to have unruly, rude or disrespectful guests in one's home. Some list members would like to use this forum to promote their own agenda while some apparently have a personal ax to grind. I invite those who have tried to incite contention and discord ( as well as anyone else) to post to me directly (off-list)if you choose, with your questions and comments but please, let us get this list back to it's purpose. Please read Suzanne's post (7880) and ask yourself how you can help. Instead of screaming about all that we might not be doing, take note of what we are planning to do. I posted an announcement message (message 7866) about a conference call this Thursday night at 6:30 PM/PST--9: 30PM/EST. This call will be quite informative and will review many exciting and important plans for the New Year. Please review it and e-mail (as outlined in the post) if you are interested in helping. Remember, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. While it may be difficult, due to many each one of our own particular circumstances, to offer help, at least don't try to create roadblocks and issues for those of us that are working tirelessly, to move this cause forward. In closing, I would like to express my gratitude and appreciation to each and every one of you who have given your time, energy, money and support this past year. I look forward to working with all of you. With blessings and high hopes for a Wonderful Holiday Season and a Happy New Year, Marc Share ( marc@...) President & Executive Director Research Institute and Parent Coalition 'Working To Give Our Children A Future' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2001 Report Share Posted December 20, 2001 Mark wrote: > PHYSICIAN Protocol and Training Documents are also nearing > completition. I believe this document would be what *I* am referring to when I use/hear the term " protocol. " The term " protocol " in a medical sense is a document that describes how one becomes eligible for participation in a particular treatment methodology, describes that methodology in detail, describes how one becomes inelible for continued participation, and describes the medical goals for treatment in (mostly) quantifiable terms...among other things. As Marc mentioned, it is not the kind of document posted on a physician's website for patient-information purposes, although these documents can make their way to patients, through their physicians, whose responsibility it is to help them understand any terminology or concepts that are not normally part of a layperson's knowledge. They might also become, as alluded to, part of an informed consent (ie: when one participates in a medical study.) It appears that reference to the term " protocol " with respect to the organization has, thus far, been much more of a philosophical and informational document than a method of communication of medical information amongst physicians. I think those of us who have either medical or scientific backgrounds might have had a particular construct about the term " protocol " that doesn't include something that Mark referred to as a " parents protocol " .....and his post seems to clarify that we may be talking about two different items here when using the term " protocol " ...the medical documents that I'm more familiar with that appear to be forthcoming, and the more " patient-friendly " information provided primarily for parents, on Dr. Goldberg's website. I believe the " Physician Protocol " that Mark refers to in the part of his post that I highlighted above, is the document that some of us are inquiring about, and that our children's physicians are looking for to answer their questions. Perhaps this has been a semantics problem all along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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