My local doctors think I am simply being victimized

March 27, 2002

I have now spoken to my GP and a local Immunologist. I gave them all of the information from Dr. Goldberg's site. They reviewed the information and both separately told me that I was being victimized by a doctor willing to do research rather than proven medicine on my child. The immunologist was quite angry about it. He said that desperate people are willing to do desperate things and that that leaves them vulnerable to doctors willing to do unscrupulous things for a lot of money. The GP was a little nicer about it and told me that the information was simply suggested research, but not proven science. He warned me that there were 'doctors' that were willing to treat research as proven science, but that he could not in good conscience do this sort of thing. He said that Herpes medications do not really even help people with genital Herpes that much and that none of the medications actually get rid of the virus. He said that there was no current medication that could get rid of the virus so he saw no reason to prescribe it to a child.

Anyway, this left me rather doubtful. Could someone please reassure me that seeing Dr. Goldberg is the right thing to do?

Thanks,

March 27, 2002

Hi !

I am in the same situation as yourself. I am seeing Dr

G in July.

My child has not being diagnosed as having autism but

has alot of numerous difficulties and is at present

undiagnosed. i am going becuse without this

intervention i know she does not have a chance and if

there is chanceand hope for my angel (most of the

time a devil)i will follow. today i saw my doctor

today as well and once more he told me to accept my

childs situation and help her by accepting it!!!

I will never know untill i try, if it fails i know i

have tried and i wont look back and say i wish i

did????

what are your childs difficulties? i am sure someone

very helpful will answer your questions

-- Day <angeladay@...> wrote: > I

have now spoken to my GP and a local Immunologist.

> I gave them all of the information from Dr.

> Goldberg's site. They reviewed the information and

> both separately told me that I was being victimized

> by a doctor willing to do research rather than

> proven medicine on my child. The immunologist was

> quite angry about it. He said that desperate people

> are willing to do desperate things and that that

> leaves them vulnerable to doctors willing to do

> unscrupulous things for a lot of money. The GP was

> a little nicer about it and told me that the

> information was simply suggested research, but not

> proven science. He warned me that there were

> 'doctors' that were willing to treat research as

> proven science, but that he could not in good

> conscience do this sort of thing. He said that

> Herpes medications do not really even help people

> with genital Herpes that much and that none of the

> medications actually get rid of the virus. He said

> that there was no current medication that could get

> rid of the virus so he saw no reason to prescribe it

> to a child.

>

> Anyway, this left me rather doubtful. Could someone

> please reassure me that seeing Dr. Goldberg is the

> right thing to do?

>

> Thanks,

>

__________________________________________________

March 27, 2002

Hi ,

While I don't have all of the answers, I do have a few suggestions. First off I

don't know how much information from the site you gave your doctor, but I

feel that possibly showing them the latest video may answer some of their

concerns. If they were truly interested they should take the time to watch it.

It may also help to show them the resumes of the doctors who are behind the

theories are posted in the latest flyer for the May 18th video conference.

I am hosting a Video conference site in an attempt to inform doctors and parents

in my area about . It doesn't cost that much ( $500 at my location, thats

only $25/person for 20 people)There is a Q & A period where people from each

location can ask questions. If there was a location in or near where you live

your doctors could attend. We are seeing Dr. G for the first time in May, but

we are already involved in because we believe he is definately on to

something and there isn't time to waste .

I'm just curious and I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but, has your immunologist

suggested anything to help your son? My stepfather is a pediatric neurologist

and feels that nothing has been proven that can help children with autism. He is

very skeptical of the GFCF diet that my son has been on for the past year and

feels that it may do permanent damage (this is laughable). It is good to ask a

lot of questions and critique things but I don't think doctors should just write

potential treatments off without having all the information and taking success

cases in to consideration. Ultimately the choice is yours to make, I know how

scared and confused you must be, I pretty scared too .In my sons case I don't

want to know 10 years from now that was right and finally all the paperwork

is in and I didn't act sooner. ( I know there are a lot of other sides to that

arguement) but that is the choice that I have made for my son.

Best of Luck in whatever your choice is.

My local doctors think I am simply being victimized

I have now spoken to my GP and a local Immunologist. I gave them all of the

information from Dr. Goldberg's site. They reviewed the information and both

separately told me that I was being victimized by a doctor willing to do

research rather than proven medicine on my child. The immunologist was quite

angry about it. He said that desperate people are willing to do desperate

things and that that leaves them vulnerable to doctors willing to do

unscrupulous things for a lot of money. The GP was a little nicer about it and

told me that the information was simply suggested research, but not proven

science. He warned me that there were 'doctors' that were willing to treat

research as proven science, but that he could not in good conscience do this

sort of thing. He said that Herpes medications do not really even help people

with genital Herpes that much and that none of the medications actually get rid

of the virus. He said that there was no current medication that could get rid

of the virus so he saw no reason to prescribe it to a child.

Anyway, this left me rather doubtful. Could someone please reassure me that

seeing Dr. Goldberg is the right thing to do?

Thanks,

March 28, 2002

Hi ,

I have been through the same thing with my son's paediatrician also. He said

lots of things that made me very doubtful. He said something to the effect of,

" I have a lot of ideas about what may cause this or that but I can't go around

expecting other people to pay big money to fund my research projects. " I simply

said, do you think that it sounds like it could possibly be the answer though?

And he replied with " Well, even if it is the answer, this doctor is not going

about it an a professional way. He should be doing double blind placebo

controlled studies. And paying the costs involved with doing it himself. Not

expect the patient to be a guinea pig and pay for the research as well. "

I went away and thought about it for a long time. And asked myself a few

questions:

Q1. What does my paediatrician have to offer me for my son's improvement or

recovery?

A1. Nothing.

Q2. Does he have to watch his child live in an autistic prison and know that

they will always be dependent on him even when he is old and possibly not able

to look after them?

A2. No.

Q3. Is Dr. Goldberg's treatment dangerous?

A3. No.

Q4. If I don't do this and wait for the research to be completed and become

standardized treatment will it be too late for my son to benefit?

A4. Most definately.

Yes, your doctor is right that we are desperate parents, but why are we

desperate? Because we have a very, very limited amount of time to work with and

because we don't have any support from our doctors! When we go to our local

doctors they can't give us any answers or solutions. What are we to do? We

research it ourselves and now with the internet we have the tools to do it.

Unfortunately for some, before we get it right we make mistakes. It is because

of the medical community looking at our children as damaged goods (this is very

upsetting), which is why we look desperately for other avenues and usually end

up trying some quackery. Try this supplement, do this strange therapy etc. And

we do make mistakes. But Dr. Goldberg is a proper medical doctor with years and

years of experience. He uses medications that have been properly tested and

monitors everything with blood tests. He has patients who have recovered from

his treatment and it is slow, but sometimes slow is better. Some of these mega

dose vitamins etc. give quick results that look impressive but can then be doing

some other harm like causing seizures etc.

If Dr Goldberg were to do all of the double blind placebo controlled studies it

would be more than 10 years before the medical community take it on board. We

don't have 10 years and while the doctors don't have anything to loose by

sitting back waiting for the long, slow process - we have everything to loose.

If the protocol is not harmful (which can't be said for a lot of other

treatments out there) and it makes sense, and all of the medical people who

don't like Dr Goldberg's professionalism don't seem to be able to have a valid

argument as to why it's not the answer, then surely it's got to be worth a try.

These doctors want us to accept the diagnosis, but what exactly does that mean?

Give up on your child? Accept that their lives are ruined forever? If it was

like other genetic disabilities like Downs Syndrome why has there been case

after case of recovered children and yet how often is recovery from Downs

Syndrome reported?

You have to weigh it all up for yourself. Even into the treatment during rough

patches I still have doubtful times. It is never easy. Autism is never easy

either but we have to live with it. And yes it is still early days for this

protocol but everything has to start somewhere, unfortunately our children are

children now and therefore need help right now not ten years time. We only get

one chance and if we let it go it will be gone forever.

All the best,

Cherie.

March 28, 2002

Day wrote:

> I have now spoken to my GP and a local Immunologist. I gave them all

> of the information from Dr. Goldberg's site. They reviewed the

> information and both separately told me that I was being victimized by

> a doctor willing to do research rather than proven medicine on my

> child. The immunologist was quite angry about it. He said that

> desperate people are willing to do desperate things and that that

> leaves them vulnerable to doctors willing to do unscrupulous things

> for a lot of money. The GP was a little nicer about it and told me

> that the information was simply suggested research, but not proven

> science. He warned me that there were 'doctors' that were willing to

> treat research as proven science, but that he could not in good

> conscience do this sort of thing. He said that Herpes medications do

> not really even help people with genital Herpes that much and that

> none of the medications actually get rid of the virus. He said that

> there was no current medication that could get rid of the virus so he

> saw no reason to prescribe it to a child.

>

> Anyway, this left me rather doubtful. Could someone please reassure

> me that seeing Dr. Goldberg is the right thing to do?

>

> Thanks,

>

Hi ,

The proof is in the results. If (and there certainly is an " if " here)

your child has the symptoms of immune dysfunction, I think Dr. G can

help. I believe in my heart that if Dr. G did not think he could help,

he would be upfront and tell you so. If you would like to feel more

confidant about the " science " , I suggest you subscribe to:

abmd . You will be blown away by all the research that

backs up Dr. G's protocol.

I have absolutely no regrets making the trek to CA. In one year my

child has become so near normal it is difficult to distinguish him from

his peers. This really flies in the face of all those doctors that told

me " to live with it " .

One last thing, if Dr. G is getting rich, it is not from his practice.

$145 every six weeks is a bargain to have my kid back. The prices Dr. G

charges are not those of a doctor looking to victimize. (My

Immunologist charged $299 for 20 minutes, no tests, just talking! Talk

about a rip-off!)

Follow your gut- you know your child much better than anyone else. I

wish you peace with whatever you decide.

Sincerely,

Plano, TX

March 28, 2002

Cheri's response is superb........

is steadily progressing - he has his ups and downs. After his second

full immune panel, his titres for the herpes viruses were showing

improvement. We started reducing FamVir. He regressed. We switched from

Diflucan to Amphotericin B - a milder anti fungal, he regressed and started

having more tummy problems. The medications do help the immune system to

cope better. We have cleaned up his allergy responses, third successive drop

in EOS. WE still suspect viral activity and are really looking at that

closely. Neurospect has been extremely powerful in understanding what is

going on up there - and helped direct Dr G in making decisions about

medications/ and has helped our education psychologist and speech

pathologist in adjusting and improving programs for him.

Chris's receptive language has improved 2 years in 1. Expressive a little

slower, but building now - vocab very good and.... pronunciation - as noted

yesterday by an educationalist who saw him for the first time as

" excellent - very easy to understand " .

Yesterday, for the first time, (6 1/2) initiated a game of ring-a-rosy

with his 3 1/2 yo sister. He sang the whole song, dragged her around and

around with total eye contact to make sure she was joining in! He really had

that " i'm big brother look in his eye " . She was a bit in shock at the

wonderful attention and involvement form her older brother! Then they all

fell down in a heap, laughing and giggling - and repeated it for more fun!

, and others embarking on this now - I urge you to go through the

previous posts on the list - there are some very compelling testimonials of

recovery and improvement. Read these and then go to your local doctors with

them - if they are still so closed minded, then I and suggest that you tell

them you might need to change. Ask your doctor how many infants were tested

in double blind placebo tests for HEP B shots!!....... Yet this is

administered at birth. (by the way I am not anti-vaccination).

Go for it!

Re: My local doctors think I am simply being victimized

Hi ,

I have been through the same thing with my son's paediatrician also. He said

lots of things that made me very doubtful. He said something to the effect

of, " I have a lot of ideas about what may cause this or that but I can't go

around expecting other people to pay big money to fund my research

projects. " I simply said, do you think that it sounds like it could possibly

be the answer though? And he replied with " Well, even if it is the answer,

this doctor is not going about it an a professional way. He should be doing

double blind placebo controlled studies. And paying the costs involved with

doing it himself. Not expect the patient to be a guinea pig and pay for the

research as well. "

I went away and thought about it for a long time. And asked myself a few

questions:

Q1. What does my paediatrician have to offer me for my son's improvement or

recovery?

A1. Nothing.

Q2. Does he have to watch his child live in an autistic prison and know that

they will always be dependent on him even when he is old and possibly not

able to look after them?

A2. No.

Q3. Is Dr. Goldberg's treatment dangerous?

A3. No.

Q4. If I don't do this and wait for the research to be completed and become

standardized treatment will it be too late for my son to benefit?

A4. Most definately.

Yes, your doctor is right that we are desperate parents, but why are we

desperate? Because we have a very, very limited amount of time to work with

and because we don't have any support from our doctors! When we go to our

local doctors they can't give us any answers or solutions. What are we to

do? We research it ourselves and now with the internet we have the tools to

do it. Unfortunately for some, before we get it right we make mistakes. It

is because of the medical community looking at our children as damaged

goods (this is very upsetting), which is why we look desperately for other

avenues and usually end up trying some quackery. Try this supplement, do

this strange therapy etc. And we do make mistakes. But Dr. Goldberg is a

proper medical doctor with years and years of experience. He uses

medications that have been properly tested and monitors everything with

blood tests. He has patients who have recovered from his treatment and it is

slow, but sometimes slow is bette!

r. Some of these mega dose vitamins etc. give quick results that look

impressive but can then be doing some other harm like causing seizures etc.

If Dr Goldberg were to do all of the double blind placebo controlled studies

it would be more than 10 years before the medical community take it on

board. We don't have 10 years and while the doctors don't have anything to

loose by sitting back waiting for the long, slow process - we have

everything to loose. If the protocol is not harmful (which can't be

said for a lot of other treatments out there) and it makes sense, and all of

the medical people who don't like Dr Goldberg's professionalism don't seem

to be able to have a valid argument as to why it's not the answer, then

surely it's got to be worth a try.

These doctors want us to accept the diagnosis, but what exactly does that

mean? Give up on your child? Accept that their lives are ruined forever? If

it was like other genetic disabilities like Downs Syndrome why has there

been case after case of recovered children and yet how often is recovery

from Downs Syndrome reported?

You have to weigh it all up for yourself. Even into the treatment during

rough patches I still have doubtful times. It is never easy. Autism is never

easy either but we have to live with it. And yes it is still early days for

this protocol but everything has to start somewhere, unfortunately our

children are children now and therefore need help right now not ten years

time. We only get one chance and if we let it go it will be gone forever.

All the best,

Cherie.

March 28, 2002

Dr. G has been in this practice for almost 20 years. He is the very

first medical doctor to pose a theory and have years of documented cases

and facts that other doctors now are looking and taking notice of..

Would your immunologist and GP like to see pictures of my son before and

after treatment? My son has redness all around the mouth, with puffy

cheeks and a nose that looked like Rudolph. The dark circles around the

eyes, he would bleed in the diaper area as soon as he soiled his diaper.

I told my ped. over and over and she said " Oh just put medication for

diaper rash " I had to use lotrumin to control the area. Years later Dr.

Goldberg tells me that if I had stopped giving him cow milk he would

have stopped bleeding. When we started the anti viral, my son was very

agitated for about 3 weeks, then the redness around the mouth went away.

No more canker sores, no more chapped lips, no more redness in the

cheeks. Your GP needs to go back to med. school for a course refresher.

Give him the book " The virus within " as a good-bye gift to understand

how viral infections cause harm to a dysfunctional immune system.

Zovirax and Vultrex work on the virus by chopping it out thus allowing

the immune system to fight it. The medication attacks the virus so it

will not multiply and spread. We all have herpes but our immune system

keeps it in check. With our children their immune system needs help.

Dr. Goldberg is the first medical doctor to look me in the eyes and tell

me that my son is an intelligent boy and we need to bring him to this

world. Step by step he worked with us. I can compare the initial blood

work that was done five years ago and the results were below the range

or over the range. Now my son's blood work looks normal. It did not

happen overnight.

Somebody from the list correct me if I am wrong but I am almost certain

that Dr. Goldberg's research was published in a medical journal.

If I could go back in time I would have taken my son to Dr. G the minute

I suspected something was wrong. He does not have all the answers but he

has a big chunk of the puzzle and I wanted for my child.

- Mercy